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Jenova Rhapsodos
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:04:00 -
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Spent the day using a Caldari State Advanced Tactical Sniper. Averaging about 15 kills, 0 deaths per game. I only have Level 1 sniper rifle operations though, so no proficiency or whatever.
Can't say from a PC perspective, but snipers seem to be fine in pubs. The damage seems appropriate, most medium frame suits only get one-shot by a headshot. And I shouldn't be able to solo a heavy with one clip anyway.
The point raised that Thales are the viable option in PC is a great observation though.
The Scrambler Rifle is dead, long live the Scrambler Rifle!
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.18 03:44:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:And I shouldn't be able to solo a heavy with one clip anyway.
The point raised that Thales are the viable option in PC is a great observation though. And why shouldn't you again? No, the Thale's being a viable option in PC is not a great observation; it's not even a relevant one due to the fact that not everyone has one, and they cannot be re-purchased when lost. Just imagine if the only way to get kills in PC with an AR would be to use the Balac's.
This is why noone likes you Attim.
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:59:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote:Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Spent the day using a Caldari State Advanced Tactical Sniper. Averaging about 15 kills, 0 deaths per game. I only have Level 1 sniper rifle operations though, so no proficiency or whatever.
Can't say from a PC perspective, but snipers seem to be fine in pubs. The damage seems appropriate, most medium frame suits only get one-shot by a headshot. And I shouldn't be able to solo a heavy with one clip anyway.
The point raised that Thales are the viable option in PC is a great observation though. you would do much better with the basic RR
Probably. I'm pretty awesome. I'd make more kills for sure, but more deaths as well.
Regularly making 15-0 games in pubs is better than going 17-6 with a basic RR.
What do you guys want? To drop 30 kill games every time?
Snipers are fine, I feel like you're all just terrible.
The Scrambler Rifle is dead, long live the Scrambler Rifle!
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:47:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Spent the day using a Caldari State Advanced Tactical Sniper. Sorry, but that is not to much to have objective opinion on subject. I think that you were killing people in MLT/STR suits all day long. Thats really simple - PRO suits have more CPU/PG and slots to tank even better, we get stacking penalties for each dmg mod and they don't really get any penalties for putting in more tanking modules.
Yeah I've used snipers regularly in the past on a different account. I was just mentioning that I've been using one since 1.8 was released.
And yes I understand what a Proto suit is.
I understand there seems to be diminishing returns at proto level unless you use the Charge Sniper.
All I'm saying is I can kill pretty much any Advanced suit with my advanced sniper. Other than tanked heavies, which I don't really care about killing to be honest.
But snipers are definitely not 'broken'.
The Scrambler Rifle is dead, long live the Scrambler Rifle!
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:49:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote: lol I go 20-0 with snipers all the time ...... I'm really good with them, that's how I know they suck
just because you had a couple of good games doesn't change that.
Double post here, but YOLO.
If you regularly go 20-0. Snipers are not bad. They are a support class anyway. You shouldn't be out-slaying Assaults and Heavies.
The Scrambler Rifle is dead, long live the Scrambler Rifle!
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:12:00 -
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nelo kazuma wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sh*t about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a sh*tty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's.
Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them.
I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping.
They all need a zoom and damage buff.
Tactical needs it's clip size increased.
Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff.
Basic needs a damage buff. Wow, umm where to start? As both a proto scout and a proto commando, both with proto Sniper Rifles and decent proficiency, I can tell you right now that you're wrong wanting the whole world handed to you on a silver platter. Sniping from the start is meant to be used for tactical ( I cant stress this enough) overview and SUPPRESSION. Not a one man, annihilate whole enemy team from the redline badass. I know I'm gonna hear complaints but the Thale's in all honesty needs a slightly reduced scope. You should not be able to snipe clear across the map, no other officer weapon even comes close to the level that this weapon can do (extremely high range, high damage). I've had a lot of success killing people with the C-27 that you get as salvage which nobody seems to like, as well as with proto snipers.Well the people who have been killed by me don't like me. The Charge Sniper Rifle isn't meant to 1-shot anything, except low HP dropsuits such as Logis and Scouts. These should be your primary targets. If the Sniper Rife had a longer zoom it would be abused. The tac has a longer zoom which heightens survivability because it makes you harder to find. Also if you have enough HP to survive a shot since you're further away, meaning you're harder to hit. If you only have it at Operations 2, you need to go higher than that, to learn the difference between them all. A sniper again, I state is a support/TACTICAL weapon, not meant to be abused. Otherwise there would just be Snipers in dust. Although I agree that the Charge needs better name lol.
I've tried to fix this post up for you a bit.
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.20 05:53:00 -
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Universal Decimator wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sh*t about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a sh*tty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's.
Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them.
I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping.
They all need a zoom and damage buff.
Tactical needs it's clip size increased.
Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff.
Basic needs a damage buff. I have a full proficiency to level 5 in sniper rifle, I was using a caldari logie with 5 complex damage mods and a charge sniper rifle. Was not able to kill jack! When ever I was lucky enough to hit something, It would not freaking die. Then I get hit one time and I am dead and lost over 200k. I want a respect on weapons. sniper rifles are not good.
I don't think Sniper Rifles are for you haha...
With that set up you should have been one hit killing most STD medium frames even with a bodyshot. And 2 shots from that should take out most ADV suits to be honest.
Why not run 3 damage mods tops, and then 2 complex shields. Put some plates in your lows and you should survive a headshot from all but a Thales.
You could also consider using a KB/M whilst sniping. It's generally pretty terrible in dust, but the precision and fine-tuned input of a mouse is superior to a DS3 controller for sniping.
Also you shouldn't get a respec just because you spent so much SP on a weapon that you are not adept at using, the weapon is not 'broken'. I'd understand if you were talking about Flaylocks or something else that was nerfed to hell.
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:14:00 -
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This thread is getting so dumb.
Suggestions for increased mag size of the Tac Sniper... yeah just no. 4 rounds tops. It's a beast already.
Charge Sniper damage is pretty high already, I suspect a lot of you can't aim.
And buffing the Thale's is a pretty stupid idea. It's a pathetic weapon in pubs as it is, with redline vantage points overlooking many of the maps. I'd hate to be in a position where I see a Thale's every pub game, that would really make me not want to play.
If anything, a suitable buff would be to damage over the standard variant Sniper Rifle. And maybe the ability to toggle zoom?
Map design could be better, with the redline removed and areas redesigned to implement a wider variety of sniper spots. Though I think these sniper spots should not have direct overwatch of the null cannon hacking terminal, rather the wider area around it.
The Scrambler Rifle is dead, long live the Scrambler Rifle!
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