DUST Search - Sniper rifles need buff...

Eko Sol wrote:

Sir Dukey wrote:

Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sh*t about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a sh*tty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's.

Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them.
I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping.

They all need a zoom and damage buff.
Tactical needs it's clip size increased.
Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff.
Basic needs a damage buff.

Is it me or is the reality that this game doesn't need snipers EVERY MAP. I'm sick of people thinking that every match they should be able to snipe. It just doesn't make sense. Don't buff anything with sniper rifles. I run ADV Tactical and, on the right maps, break 10 kills without dying on a bad day. Some maps aren't good for sniping either because they know where people snipe from or just have bad angles for the action. People just need to get over it.

I can't run Heavy HMG every match and can't run Logi every match and can't run scout every match. I have to go between what will work in that match and sniping doesn't always work.

Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .

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Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 800	Posted - 2014.04.16 00:50:00 - [1] - Quote Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sht about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a shtty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's. Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them. I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping. They all need a zoom and damage buff. Tactical needs it's clip size increased. Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff. Basic needs a damage buff.
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion League of Infamy 173	Posted - 2014.04.16 00:54:00 - [2] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sht about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a shtty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's. Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them. I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping. They all need a zoom and damage buff. Tactical needs it's clip size increased. Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff. Basic needs a damage buff. Hmmm I do agree the sniper rifle needs a look at but I'm doing just fine using a charged sniper as I have never owned a thale I my dust life although I've had no issue removing thale users off the battlefield... Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
Eko Sol Strange Playings 159	Posted - 2014.04.16 00:57:00 - [3] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sht about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a shtty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's. Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them. I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping. They all need a zoom and damage buff. Tactical needs it's clip size increased. Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff. Basic needs a damage buff. Is it me or is the reality that this game doesn't need snipers EVERY MAP. I'm sick of people thinking that every match they should be able to snipe. It just doesn't make sense. Don't buff anything with sniper rifles. I run ADV Tactical and, on the right maps, break 10 kills without dying on a bad day. Some maps aren't good for sniping either because they know where people snipe from or just have bad angles for the action. People just need to get over it. I can't run Heavy HMG every match and can't run Logi every match and can't run scout every match. I have to go between what will work in that match and sniping doesn't always work.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2583	Posted - 2014.04.16 00:59:00 - [4] - Quote Remove the redline and I'll talk. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 52	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:05:00 - [5] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sht about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a shtty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's. Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them. I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping. They all need a zoom and damage buff. Tactical needs it's clip size increased. Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff. Basic needs a damage buff. Agree 80 percent or so. I don't care much for the basic though, and I definitely wouldn't damage buff the charge. Maybe the regular ishukone needs some love. *1.8* --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes. *1.8* --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1264	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:06:00 - [6] - Quote I love snipers. they shoot me right in the face. Then I return fire with a forge gun. get to cover, charge, aim(since they never, ever move, it's like their legs fused to the ground or something once they touched the rifle) come out from behind cover, fire, collect 50 WP, resume regularly scheduled anti-tank/anti-infantry combat. PLINK! "Oh, you wanna go?!" WHHRRRRRRRRR... THUUMP +50 Best was hitting a guy who jumped off some pipes, in mid air. or the scout who got launched about 50 meters through the air and hit the railing I was behind. I died because I was laughing too hard to fight the guy who showed up a second afterward. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2841	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:10:00 - [7] - Quote Commando. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2340	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:11:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Remove the redline and I'll talk. The red line fixes more problems than it causes. Enable FF in the red zone after 45 seconds and in the MCC after 20 and put a proof of life timer on both so no one can stay in the red for more than a minute or so without being kicked and fined 100K. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 801	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:13:00 - [9] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Commando. Commando my ass. In 1.6 I was dealing 300 damage + per shot with my ishukone at the price of my tank not Im barley doing 270 with a commando.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2841	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:14:00 - [10] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Commando. Commando my ass. In 1.6 I was dealing 300 damage + per shot with my ishukone at the price of my tank not Im barley doing 270 with a commando. Charged sniper rifle Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(

Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 801	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:14:00 - [11] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Remove the redline and I'll talk. when you pick up a sniper than I'll let you talk.
Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 801	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:15:00 - [12] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Commando. Commando my ass. In 1.6 I was dealing 300 damage + per shot with my ishukone at the price of my tank not Im barley doing 270 with a commando. Charged sniper rifle charge does like 410 damage max. barley a bit more damage than militia suits and thats with over 5 million sp + investment.
Tau Lai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 53	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:26:00 - [13] - Quote I bet sniper rifles will get some kind of buff on the next patch iteration, because right now, a prototype sniper cannot take down a prototype suit. I can see you Buy a tank Buy an assault dropship
Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 801	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:28:00 - [14] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: I bet sniper rifles will get some kind of buff on the next patch iteration, because right now, a prototype sniper cannot take down a prototype suit. a prototype can barley take out a militia.
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 184	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:30:00 - [15] - Quote Im pretty used to all other games OHK snipers, or even the 2 hit kill snipers, the charged sniper is good, but its the charge makes it difficult to do follow up hits, the tac sniper is good, if you can get those consecutive head shots, the thales is... obviously the best, it use to be a OHK for most i use to do 520 hp per hit on thales, dont know what i do now but im guessing its alot less. if only hit detection was better and for some reason the sights when aiming at 400m+ the people disappear and i cant see them, it usually happen when they are running along the sides of buildings (dont know if this is just me but its annoying :/)
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2588	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:30:00 - [16] - Quote You guys are pathetic. Do you really want OHK sniper rifles? CoD----------------> Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
buzzzzzzz killllllllll TRA1LBLAZERS 438	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:30:00 - [17] - Quote if you leave the redline they are amazing. i have prof 3 snipers and i snipe about 150 meters from the objective with a thales, never lost one yet. they need a damage buff on the snipers, but only if they cant shoot out of the redline Dedicated heavy through the hard times, still supporter of A FULL 1.8 respec and MOAR HEAVY WEAPONS!
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2588	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:31:00 - [18] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Tau Lai wrote: I bet sniper rifles will get some kind of buff on the next patch iteration, because right now, a prototype sniper cannot take down a prototype suit. a prototype can barley take out a militia. Shoot them twice, or just once in the head. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2588	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:32:00 - [19] - Quote buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: if you leave the redline they are amazing. i have prof 3 snipers and i snipe about 150 meters from the objective with a thales, never lost one yet. they need a damage buff on the snipers, but only if they cant shoot out of the redline This, I can agree with. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 339	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:36:00 - [20] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sht about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a shtty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's. Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them. I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping. They all need a zoom and damage buff. Tactical needs it's clip size increased. Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff. Basic needs a damage buff. mmmmh its probably cause snipeing is a waste of time in a objective based game same reason the plasma cannon sucks its a novelty gun. what they need to buff is mlt dropships so i can keep crashing them on redline snipers heads. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu

yep derrith again Shining Flame Amarr Empire 95	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:49:00 - [21] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Remove the redline and I'll talk. when you pick up a sniper than I'll let you talk. I used sniper in chrome, charge, because I preferred it. I would probably get snipers again if there was no redline. It's a weak and cowardly move to stay in your red zone and do nothing but farm kills. Besides, I already know how to deal with snipers, fly over them in an ADS, shoot them down. It usually causes them to rage, as they don't expect me to do anything to them.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2841	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:56:00 - [22] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Commando. Commando my ass. In 1.6 I was dealing 300 damage + per shot with my ishukone at the price of my tank not Im barley doing 270 with a commando. Charged sniper rifle charge does like 410 damage max. barley a bit more damage than militia suits and thats with over 5 million sp + investment. Headshots Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 801	Posted - 2014.04.16 02:06:00 - [23] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Commando. Commando my ass. In 1.6 I was dealing 300 damage + per shot with my ishukone at the price of my tank not Im barley doing 270 with a commando. Charged sniper rifle charge does like 410 damage max. barley a bit more damage than militia suits and thats with over 5 million sp + investment. Headshots which are impossible with a 2x zoom scope and a controller.
bear90211 Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 196	Posted - 2014.04.16 02:09:00 - [24] - Quote "Why don't we make the THALES Proto heavy suit do base 752 DMG with a headshot prof of 225%. thatle showem! " My sig is suuper old.. now i rip faces with my HMG. looking for logies yo.btw #tacos
Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 801	Posted - 2014.04.16 02:09:00 - [25] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: You guys are pathetic. Do you really want OHK sniper rifles? CoD----------------> no sniper in any game takes away at max 25% of an enemies health. a proto sniper should take away at least 75% of a proto suits health. (suit with 700 ehp). A proto sniper should rip through most suits.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 557	Posted - 2014.04.16 02:12:00 - [26] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sht about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a shtty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's. Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them. I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping. They all need a zoom and damage buff. Tactical needs it's clip size increased. Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff. Basic needs a damage buff. Is it me or is the reality that this game doesn't need snipers EVERY MAP. I'm sick of people thinking that every match they should be able to snipe. It just doesn't make sense. Don't buff anything with sniper rifles. I run ADV Tactical and, on the right maps, break 10 kills without dying on a bad day. Some maps aren't good for sniping either because they know where people snipe from or just have bad angles for the action. People just need to get over it. I can't run Heavy HMG every match and can't run Logi every match and can't run scout every match. I have to go between what will work in that match and sniping doesn't always work. You can't snipe every map , just like some maps are more vehicle friendly then others . That's just crazy because their are some battlefield's that are a counter-sniper's dream . Seems like someone is in love with the charged sniper rifle in here . I don't agree with a damage buff , if anything your range should effect the damage that is given and with the fact that the closer you can get ( of course you would like to not be seen ) the better you can see so you should become more accurate . I would rather see magnification as a sniping skill instead of just a part of an actual rifle's ability . Tactical's zoom already and we do have a Thale .. I wouldn't want this to become just so easy that the forums begin to call for the role to be nerf'd like the trend show's . If it was an actual skill it would probably benefit the role better . Want more damage and better zoom , then move closer and your vision will increase . I wouldn't want to snipe every match but that's just me ... I wouldn't want to tank every match but that's just me ... I try to do a little bit of everything . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2590	Posted - 2014.04.16 02:28:00 - [27] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: You guys are pathetic. Do you really want OHK sniper rifles? CoD----------------> no sniper in any game takes away at max 25% of an enemies health. a proto sniper should take away at least 75% of a proto suits health. (suit with 700 ehp). A proto sniper should rip through most suits. Weapon damage doesn't scale with suit HP. It take longer for a PRO weapon to kill a PRO suit than it does for an STD weapon to kill an STD suit. Snipers shouldn't be the exception. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 592	Posted - 2014.04.16 02:32:00 - [28] - Quote Don't know why you guys are having trouble killing with you proto and up sniper rifles. My militia sniper rifle kills just fine. How you ask? I aim for the heads. Medium frame EHP is not medium
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 97	Posted - 2014.04.16 03:48:00 - [29] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sht about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a shtty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's. Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them. I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping. They all need a zoom and damage buff. Tactical needs it's clip size increased. Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff. Basic needs a damage buff. Not to menchion the hit detection bug, the xray bug, the rare no damage bug (had this today..loaded 3 c15 tactical clips into the head of a guy 200 meter away and he toke no damage even those his shields were lighting up like fireworks and he was seeing his hit endicator cause he looked right at me and sniped me while reloading....did math this is upward of about 1560 dmg without the headshot bonus) and other bugs that have been annoying as hell to deal with since they appeared -holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 97	Posted - 2014.04.16 04:00:00 - [30] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: charge does like 410 damage max. barley a bit more damage than militia suits and thats with over 5 million sp + investment. Headshots which are impossible with a 2x zoom scope and a controller. Tactical sniper, drop link 500 m away, 1 shot.. Done it Easy .5 second line up if you know what your doing Ask people i fight with theyll tell you i *** alot how im ** at sniping yet i made equipment shots cross map redline to redline like its nothing The only reason its hard cause everyone dances while they fight so its hard to line up and shot in .001 seconds -holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro



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