Please, for the love of the Empress, reconsider that Amarr logistics bonus. It's the slowest medium frame! It's the worst uplink-laying suit out of the 4 logis. I get that we're trying to keep bonuses within racial technology, but it makes no sense for the extremely slow, sidearm-slot-having combat-focused logi to be the one designating for lugging uplinks all over the map. To quote the market description, "The Amarr variant is a durable, combat-focused suit that provides above-average protection, allowing logistic units to operate in the middle of a firefight, actively dispersing aid and support as needed while simultaneously engaging the enemy and inflicting trauma of its own."

Also, I liked the Min Logi bonus as it was :( don't take away my hack speed.

hoo! (pt 2 of 2)

EDIT: Now, with something useful:

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level.
- Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level.
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.

Logistics [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of equipment]
- Caldari Logistics: +10% to nanohive max. nanites and +5% to supply rate and repair amount per level.
- Gallente Logistics: +10% to active scanner visibility duration and +5% to active scanner precision per level.
- Minmatar Logistics: +10% to repair tool range and 5% to repair amount per level.
- Amarr Logistics: 10% reduction to drop uplink spawn time and +2 to max. spawn count per level.

As an Asault Rifle and Combat Rifle user, I would prefer to see the Gallente and Minmatar bonuses swaped (except for explosive weapons)

The reason is simple. The AR is designed for close quarters domination, and I would prefer to have a lot more rounds in the mag for those close quarters fights where spray and pray is much more common. The combat rifle is a mid range weapon and I am much more precise about when I shoot. I need more accuracy at range than I do more rounds in the magazine.

just my 2 cents

Please, for the love of the Empress, reconsider that Amarr logistics bonus. It's the slowest medium frame! It's the worst uplink-laying suit out of the 4 logis. I get that we're trying to keep bonuses within racial technology, but it makes no sense for the extremely slow, sidearm-slot-having combat-focused logi to be the one designating for lugging uplinks all over the map. To quote the market description, "The Amarr variant is a durable, combat-focused suit that provides above-average protection, allowing logistic units to operate in the middle of a firefight, actively dispersing aid and support as needed while simultaneously engaging the enemy and inflicting trauma of its own."

Also, I liked the Min Logi bonus as it was :( don't take away my hack speed.

hoo! (pt 2 of 2)

EDIT: Now, with something useful:

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level.
- Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level.
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.

Logistics [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of equipment]
- Caldari Logistics: +10% to nanohive max. nanites and +5% to supply rate and repair amount per level.
- Gallente Logistics: +10% to active scanner visibility duration and +5% to active scanner precision per level.
- Minmatar Logistics: +10% to repair tool range and 5% to repair amount per level.
- Amarr Logistics: 10% reduction to drop uplink spawn time and +2 to max. spawn count per level.

WITHOUT AN ACROSS THE BOARD DAMAGE BOOST FOR ASSAULTS, SLAYER LOGIS WILL REMAIN SUPREME

THAT CALDARI BONUS IS A JOKE BTW, HOW DOES .2 SECONDS OF FASTER RELOAD MAKE MY SUIT BETTER THAN A SLAYER LOGI WITH 1k EHP AND THREE DAMAGE MODS?

GFG CCP

hoo! (pt 2 of 2)

EDIT: Now, with something useful:

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level.
- Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level.
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.

Logistics [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of equipment]
- Caldari Logistics: +10% to nanohive max. nanites and +5% to supply rate and repair amount per level.
- Gallente Logistics: +10% to active scanner visibility duration and +5% to active scanner precision per level.
- Minmatar Logistics: +10% to repair tool range and 5% to repair amount per level.
- Amarr Logistics: 10% reduction to drop uplink spawn time and +2 to max. spawn count per level.

It makes perfect sense, yet someone pointed out that old MD had too many rounds and it was used only for roof camping.
I'd rather give them a buff in explosive damage instead of increasing the rounds loaded.

I don't use assaults but....11 rounds per magazine for a mass driver seems a little insane.

I do however use Gal logi.
Do you know what i forsee?
You give a bonus for a nerfed item,THEN they're outclassed using ALL other eq.
Do you know what that means,to the one logi that can have 5 complex plates?
Yes,it seems as if CCP WANTS Gk.0 to be the go-to logi for slaying.
Tell meee CCP why should i as a Gal logi use my suit to support when ALL my abilities are gimped?
No good answer? Because there isn't one...

You seem to think im complaining about slayer logis.
With a bonus for a nerfed item,Gal logi may as well be an assault.
Do you know what a logi is that sucks with all eq (besides Gal logi in 1.8)? That's right,it's an assault.

5% optimal range

hoo! (pt 2 of 2)

EDIT: Now, with something useful:

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level.
- Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level.
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.

Logistics [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of equipment]
- Caldari Logistics: +10% to nanohive max. nanites and +5% to supply rate and repair amount per level.
- Gallente Logistics: +10% to active scanner visibility duration and +5% to active scanner precision per level.
- Minmatar Logistics: +10% to repair tool range and 5% to repair amount per level.
- Amarr Logistics: 10% reduction to drop uplink spawn time and +2 to max. spawn count per level.

Why lower the Commando's melee damage? It's one of the more interesting features of the suit. Sucker punching the guy trying to rush you or the poor cat you've caught in a corner is glorious.

It was actually a neat little quirk. But I guess it doesn't really have much to do with the second-line suppression role of the Commando.

I've always thought of it as a built-in sidearm. The only extreme CQC light is the shotgun, which, with a few exceptions, is a poor choice to carry as a second, and obviously you normally wouldn't equip an actual sidearm on the Commando, so what do you do when that Heavy whose HP you've been whittling away gets desperate and tries to get all up in your face with his SMG, or that Scout pops around the corner with his knives? You knock them the **** out.

Why not 25% more ammo capacity (for gal blaster weapons,for cal rail weapons) or 25% reduction to spool time

25%? Yeah, that's not OP at all.

I think he meant 5% per level, so 25% at max, like the current Minmatar bonus. Personally, I think a RoF bonus to plasma weaponry would be more interesting and useful for the Gallente Assault.

The bonuses aren't perfect, but certainly a step in the right direction.

- The reload bonus for the Caldari assault is unpopular as you have likely seen by the forum reaction, and it sucks compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses. I would recommend pairing it with something else like recoil reduction, and/or ammo reserve increase. The Minmatar scout will have more than one bonus, please do the same with the Caldari assault. No one will get excited for this single reload bonus. Another alternative would be to reduce effective range of hybrid-rail weapons, but give Caldari assaults a range bonus for hybrid-rail weapons.

- The Gallente bonus is also very underwhelming. I would recommend a 1% ROF increase per level of hybrid-plasma/blaster weapons + 5% dispersion reduction per level.

- I LOVE the Amarr and Minmatar bonuses. The Amarr one is perfect.

- About the Minmatar explosive thing, maybe should be to ammo reserves or splash radius (preferably) instead of clip size; +1 explosive clip size per level sounds like it could be incredibly OP, as awesome as it sounds. Maxed out the clip size bonus would be close to a 200% magazine increase for the mass driver, even more for the flaylock pistol.

As for logis, many find those bonuses restrictive, but I like them. When every race has at least 2 equipment type, the bonus should be expanded to include 2 equipment. Example:

Minmatar could get bonus to repair tools and depoyable explosives (REs and PMs).

Caldari can get bonus to nanohives nanine injectors.

Gallente can get bonus to active scanner and [INSERT NEW EQUIPMENT].

Amarr can get a bonus to drop uplinks and [INSERT NEW EQUIPMENT].

Anyway, thank you.

hoo! (pt 2 of 2)

EDIT: Now, with something useful:

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level.
- Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level.
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.

Logistics [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of equipment]
- Caldari Logistics: +10% to nanohive max. nanites and +5% to supply rate and repair amount per level.
- Gallente Logistics: +10% to active scanner visibility duration and +5% to active scanner precision per level.
- Minmatar Logistics: +10% to repair tool range and 5% to repair amount per level.
- Amarr Logistics: 10% reduction to drop uplink spawn time and +2 to max. spawn count per level.

The bonuses aren't perfect, but certainly a step in the right direction.

- The reload bonus for the Caldari assault is unpopular as you have likely seen by the forum reaction, and it sucks compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses. I would recommend pairing it with something else like recoil reduction, and/or ammo reserve increase. The Minmatar scout will have more than one bonus, please do the same with the Caldari assault. No one will get excited for this single reload bonus. Another alternative would be to reduce effective range of hybrid-rail weapons, but give Caldari assaults a range bonus for hybrid-rail weapons.

- The Gallente bonus is also very underwhelming. I would recommend a 1% ROF increase per level of hybrid-plasma/blaster weapons + 5% dispersion reduction per level.

- I LOVE the Amarr and Minmatar bonuses. The Amarr one is perfect.

- About the Minmatar explosive thing, maybe should be to ammo reserves or splash radius (preferably) instead of clip size; +1 explosive clip size per level sounds like it could be incredibly OP, as awesome as it sounds. Maxed out the clip size bonus would be close to a 200% magazine increase for the mass driver, even more for the flaylock pistol.

As for logis, many find those bonuses restrictive, but I like them. When every race has at least 2 equipment type, the bonus should be expanded to include 2 equipment. Example:

Minmatar could get bonus to repair tools and depoyable explosives (REs and PMs).

Caldari can get bonus to nanohives nanine injectors.

Gallente can get bonus to active scanner and [INSERT NEW EQUIPMENT].

Amarr can get a bonus to drop uplinks and [INSERT NEW EQUIPMENT].

Anyway, thank you.

The MD buff + rifle nerfs + the almost 200% increase of MD rounds with Minmatar assault is way too much at once. I double urge you to make it splash radius instead.

This, Min assault+MD+FP is obviously the next FOTM if things stay as they are. Don't you guys remember how much everyone HATED the previous explosive spam builds?

But that was because every single suit could use them that way. This will only be one suit, being very specialized. Which is kinda the point of specialized suits, I think. Lets just wait and see how things look with the adjustments to slot layout, damage mods, and weapons.