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Fristname Family name
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:25:00 -
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Amarr suits always have the most base HP in their class, Quote: as well as the slowest base speed
That so called ****** bonus will save your ass. You sqid it yourself that you gotma slow suit also bet you dont even run a god dam scout. You just think a scout must be always quick well if ammar is a slow race you gonna want dat god dam bonus.
Ammar is dead and everyones happy. Yay.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8680
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Posted - 2014.01.28 18:52:00 -
[332] - Quote
EDIT: wrong thread
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2492
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Posted - 2014.01.28 21:22:00 -
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I have to eat my hat in saying in the past that the commando was just a joke to shut people up about new content.
I'm glad its not and it all looks great.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Summ Dude
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
153
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:49:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:Amarr suits always have the most base HP in their class, Quote: as well as the slowest base speed That so called ****** bonus will save your ass. You sqid it yourself that you gotma slow suit also bet you dont even run a god dam scout. You just think a scout must be always quick well if ammar is a slow race you gonna want dat god dam bonus.
Um....yea, anyway, no I don't run a Scout. I don't need to to see how terrible the bonus is compared to the other Scouts. As has been stated before, they're all getting (effectively) at least a couple free modules with their bonuses; usually at least one complex. The Amarr Scout gets the equivalent of less than a basic cardiac regulator. That's both terribly useless and terribly uninteresting.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
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Alex Kaidou
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
1
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:56:00 -
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The new stuff is intresting but i see no reduction to scan profile (correct me if im wrong ) for the scouts but the heavies looks pretty cool to me and btw will you guys every add minmatar and amar vehicles ?
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1664
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:33:00 -
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Alex Kaidou wrote:The new stuff is intresting but i see no reduction to scan profile (correct me if im wrong ) for the scouts but the heavies looks pretty cool to me and btw will you guys every add minmatar and amar vehicles ?
Scan Profile drops from 45 to 35 on the scoutsGǪ ask me how happy i am with this 
KRRROOOOOOM
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Dj grammer
Red Star.
EoN.
124
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Posted - 2014.01.29 01:41:00 -
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And the scanners receiving the Nerf Hammer, happy day oh happy day
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Tends to flip the table when seeing the words:
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
938
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:19:00 -
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Where is the ganking we are getting on Logistics suits going to be published and made official?
Or is that a special surprise? Like the many famous Nina Nerfs of Cmdr Wangster. |
Fristname Family name
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
55
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Posted - 2014.01.29 13:10:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:Amarr suits always have the most base HP in their class, Quote: as well as the slowest base speed That so called ****** bonus will save your ass. You sqid it yourself that you gotma slow suit also bet you dont even run a god dam scout. You just think a scout must be always quick well if ammar is a slow race you gonna want dat god dam bonus. Um....yea, anyway, no I don't run a Scout. I don't need to to see how terrible the bonus is compared to the other Scouts. As has been stated before, they're all getting (effectively) at least a couple free modules with their bonuses; usually at least one complex. The Amarr Scout gets the equivalent of less than a basic cardiac regulator. That's both terribly useless and terribly uninteresting.
Look mate your not a scout so dont think you can tell me its a crap bonus ok. Im a proto gal scout and I got like 6 other scouts in my corp dont come on the fourms crying cause you dont like what ccp is giving your scout suit. If you dont like it spam your crappy malitia tanks and watch as ammar scouts kill you and are sprinting around undetected. 2 green thingys on my scouts makes a huge diffrence oh I forgot there miltita so your bonus isnt to bad. You dont just come along as some guy saying " yeah ive been a scout since closed beta I got 6mill sp " if you dont know how the scout works just dont even reply your just some guy who has no idea wtf your talking about ok. Now for the rest of you who dont run scouts and are giving ccp crap for uour bonus. SHUT THE F*** UP!!!!!
Ammar is dead and everyones happy. Yay.
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Emo Skellington
The Neutral Zone
1
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Posted - 2014.01.29 15:25:00 -
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Glad that there are new suits coming out. I was wondering about the existing suits and how their stats will be affected in the update? Like will the logistics still have their bonus HP regen? Also I cant seem to survive for crap with my Proto Logi Gallente... I can run it with 800+ armor but if I use my advanced gallente proto, I last longer??? That could just be the kill time and the new rail/combat rifles |
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Summ Dude
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
158
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Posted - 2014.01.29 18:35:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:Summ Dude wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:Amarr suits always have the most base HP in their class, Quote: as well as the slowest base speed That so called ****** bonus will save your ass. You sqid it yourself that you gotma slow suit also bet you dont even run a god dam scout. You just think a scout must be always quick well if ammar is a slow race you gonna want dat god dam bonus. Um....yea, anyway, no I don't run a Scout. I don't need to to see how terrible the bonus is compared to the other Scouts. As has been stated before, they're all getting (effectively) at least a couple free modules with their bonuses; usually at least one complex. The Amarr Scout gets the equivalent of less than a basic cardiac regulator. That's both terribly useless and terribly uninteresting. Look mate your not a scout so dont think you can tell me its a crap bonus ok. Im a proto gal scout and I got like 6 other scouts in my corp dont come on the fourms crying cause you dont like what ccp is giving your scout suit. If you dont like it spam your crappy malitia tanks and watch as ammar scouts kill you and are sprinting around undetected. 2 green thingys on my scouts makes a huge diffrence oh I forgot there miltita so your bonus isnt to bad. You dont just come along as some guy saying " yeah ive been a scout since closed beta I got 6mill sp " if you dont know how the scout works just dont even reply your just some guy who has no idea wtf your talking about ok. Now for the rest of you who dont run scouts and are giving ccp crap for uour bonus. SHUT THE F*** UP!!!!!
Ya know, I probably don't say this as often as I should but, not sure if trolling or just stupid.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
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Ryno Zamayid
DIOS EX.
General Tso's Alliance
13
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Posted - 2014.01.29 18:57:00 -
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The bonus for the Amarr is bunk. Just because it is Amarr doesn't mean it *has* to be outrageously slow. Take for instance the Executioner class frigate in EVE, the design notes says something like it was designed to be able to compete against their enemies fast ships. Evolution of tactic against the Minmatar is the reasoning. So why can't we get something at least somewhat useful? Like a reduction for the draw back of stacking armor plates against your base speed. Or hey, just bump that bonus to something that a militia cardiac regulator couldn't achieve. |
Frank Olson Usul
DUST University
Ivy League
62
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:55:00 -
[343] - Quote
I heard a lot of "scouts will lose their sidearm for that 2nd equipment" ... was that change brought into play after these charts or is it just not true? |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
606
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Posted - 2014.01.30 09:14:00 -
[344] - Quote
Caldari scout looks absolutely useless.
Gallente Sentinel looks over powered as hell. |
Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
208
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Posted - 2014.01.30 09:51:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:Caldari scout looks absolutely useless.
Gallente Sentinel looks over powered as hell.
are u sure assmarr scout is more useless than caldari.
Fatal Absolution bench proficiency lvl 5
why so serious zatara
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Polywog19
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2014.01.30 10:40:00 -
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So as a frequent commando suit user i feel like it would be better to provide a grenade slot then additional high and low slots, and since you have 4 different versions of the Commando coming in 1.8 you could probably do it to one suit version, but i would prefer a commando suit that includes grenades even if it meant no equipment slots, no high slots, and no low slots. |
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois
Maphia Clan Corporation
119
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Posted - 2014.01.30 11:09:00 -
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Why not having a suit with 2 grenade slots? 
If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
485
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:35:00 -
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Polywog19 wrote:So as a frequent commando suit user i feel like it would be better to provide a grenade slot then additional high and low slots, and since you have 4 different versions of the Commando coming in 1.8 you could probably do it to one suit version, but i would prefer a commando suit that includes grenades even if it meant no equipment slots, no high slots, and no low slots.
LOL, I wouldn't go that far, but as a person who would like to use Commandos for AV, having a nade slot would be more beneficial than an eqp slot. That said, Commandos still look weak so I don't think I'll bother speccing into one after all :(
Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó
Trained Skills
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
236
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:57:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:Summ Dude wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:Amarr suits always have the most base HP in their class, Quote: as well as the slowest base speed That so called ****** bonus will save your ass. You sqid it yourself that you gotma slow suit also bet you dont even run a god dam scout. You just think a scout must be always quick well if ammar is a slow race you gonna want dat god dam bonus. Um....yea, anyway, no I don't run a Scout. I don't need to to see how terrible the bonus is compared to the other Scouts. As has been stated before, they're all getting (effectively) at least a couple free modules with their bonuses; usually at least one complex. The Amarr Scout gets the equivalent of less than a basic cardiac regulator. That's both terribly useless and terribly uninteresting. Look mate your not a scout so dont think you can tell me its a crap bonus ok. Im a proto gal scout and I got like 6 other scouts in my corp dont come on the fourms crying cause you dont like what ccp is giving your scout suit. If you dont like it spam your crappy malitia tanks and watch as ammar scouts kill you and are sprinting around undetected. 2 green thingys on my scouts makes a huge diffrence oh I forgot there miltita so your bonus isnt to bad. You dont just come along as some guy saying " yeah ive been a scout since closed beta I got 6mill sp " if you dont know how the scout works just dont even reply your just some guy who has no idea wtf your talking about ok. Now for the rest of you who dont run scouts and are giving ccp crap for uour bonus. SHUT THE F*** UP!!!!!
Looks at signature, looks at corp/alliance.
Yep, you are full of ****. You KNOW that the amarr bonus is crap, you KNOW that the 30 extra ehp is balanced against being slow (slower than a minmatar assault btw) and you KNOW that the minmatar trade a measly 20ehp for faster speed/stamina/stamina recharge/hacking speed/I am sure there is more....
It is UNDENIABLE that the amarrian suits are getting horrible bonuses:
Amarr scout : bonus not even equal to one militia module..... (everyone else gets AT LEAST 3)
Amarr assault: maximum of 1.25 hp/sec rep speed...... lack of overheat bonus for weapons.... yep, it sucks now
Amarr commando: Reload bonus??? that is horrible for amarr weapons
Amarr sentinel: Why oh why is there any bonus to shield resistance??? useless
Amarr logi: actually this one is not bad comparatively. |
Zero Roamero
NaphBlade
19
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Posted - 2014.01.31 00:38:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:
Why are heavies still getting the short end of the stick on slot counts?
Considering the armor and shielding they have? Can you say "overpowered"?
"I may fall in battle. But even so, I'll just get back up again."
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SOMBRA del MUERTE
The Exemplars
Top Men.
24
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Posted - 2014.01.31 03:12:00 -
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What if Amarr scout had bonus to laser heat (build-up or damage) and PG/CPU of armor modules (at least reps)? That way the inherently high PG/CPU of the suit could be spent on those hungry LayZrs and the rep speed could rival the crazy fast scout shield regen (it'll neeed two reppers). |
SOMBRA del MUERTE
The Exemplars
Top Men.
24
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Posted - 2014.01.31 03:19:00 -
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Or maybe it could get the old logi armor bonus setup... plus something else
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
237
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:41:00 -
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SOMBRA del MUERTE wrote:What if Amarr scout had bonus to laser heat (build-up or damage) and PG/CPU of armor modules (at least reps)? That way the inherently high PG/CPU of the suit could be spent on those hungry LayZrs and the rep speed could rival the crazy fast scout shield regen (it'll neeed two reppers).
On point one, that would be the way I would do it.
I would make all amarrian suits have the heat reduction bonus. Make all amarrian weapons generate ALOT of heat (like even more than now) and then give all amarrian suits 1 bonus towards decreasing that heat. This would make the Empress smile. |
Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
65
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Posted - 2014.01.31 09:59:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:Caldari scout looks absolutely useless.
Gallente Sentinel looks over powered as hell. are u sure assmarr scout is more useless than caldari.
Low slots
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1774
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Posted - 2014.02.02 02:19:00 -
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The only thing I would say is that logistics racial bonus would be better as a generic logi suit bonus (all together)
Then logistics racial bonuses being given to personal repping modules instead.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
805
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Posted - 2014.02.02 02:44:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:Caldari scout looks absolutely useless.
Gallente Sentinel looks over powered as hell.
Caldari scout is the only scout im scared of |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
805
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Posted - 2014.02.02 02:48:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:Summ Dude wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:Amarr suits always have the most base HP in their class, Quote: as well as the slowest base speed That so called ****** bonus will save your ass. You sqid it yourself that you gotma slow suit also bet you dont even run a god dam scout. You just think a scout must be always quick well if ammar is a slow race you gonna want dat god dam bonus. Um....yea, anyway, no I don't run a Scout. I don't need to to see how terrible the bonus is compared to the other Scouts. As has been stated before, they're all getting (effectively) at least a couple free modules with their bonuses; usually at least one complex. The Amarr Scout gets the equivalent of less than a basic cardiac regulator. That's both terribly useless and terribly uninteresting. Look mate your not a scout so dont think you can tell me its a crap bonus ok. Im a proto gal scout and I got like 6 other scouts in my corp dont come on the fourms crying cause you dont like what ccp is giving your scout suit. If you dont like it spam your crappy malitia tanks and watch as ammar scouts kill you and are sprinting around undetected. 2 green thingys on my scouts makes a huge diffrence oh I forgot there miltita so your bonus isnt to bad. You dont just come along as some guy saying " yeah ive been a scout since closed beta I got 6mill sp " if you dont know how the scout works just dont even reply your just some guy who has no idea wtf your talking about ok. Now for the rest of you who dont run scouts and are giving ccp crap for uour bonus. SHUT THE F*** UP!!!!! Looks at signature, looks at corp/alliance. Yep, you are full of ****. You KNOW that the amarr bonus is crap, you KNOW that the 30 extra ehp is balanced against being slow (slower than a minmatar assault btw) and you KNOW that the minmatar trade a measly 20ehp for faster speed/stamina/stamina recharge/hacking speed/I am sure there is more.... It is UNDENIABLE that the amarrian suits are getting horrible bonuses: Amarr scout : bonus not even equal to one militia module..... (everyone else gets AT LEAST 3) Amarr assault: maximum of 1.25 hp/sec rep speed...... lack of overheat bonus for weapons.... yep, it sucks now Amarr commando: Reload bonus??? that is horrible for amarr weapons Amarr sentinel: Why oh why is there any bonus to shield resistance??? useless Amarr logi: actually this one is not bad comparatively.
Commando and sentinal bonuses are both useful |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
240
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Posted - 2014.02.02 04:34:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:
Commando and sentinal bonuses are both useful
nope.
Scramblers/lasers do not need reloading anywhere near as bad as they require a heat reduction bonus
any bonus to shield on the new amarr sentinel is garbage
My points stand:
Amarr assault bonusto rep speed? garbage
sentinel bonus to shield? garbage
commando bonus to reload speed? garbage
scout bonus worth less than 1 militia mod? garbage
1 specialized suit out of 5 is getting any type of decent bonus.... |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1784
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Posted - 2014.02.02 11:45:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Commando and sentinal bonuses are both useful
nope. Scramblers/lasers do not need reloading anywhere near as bad as they require a heat reduction bonus any bonus to shield on the new amarr sentinel is garbage My points stand: Amarr assault bonusto rep speed? garbage sentinel bonus to shield? garbage commando bonus to reload speed? garbage scout bonus worth less than 1 militia mod? garbage 1 specialized suit out of 5 is getting any type of decent bonus....
So what about people who don't use amarr suits for the ScR. Its too precise a bonus.
Sentinel bonus is fine, you will have more shields than most amarr will have armour, plus an extra skill for armour
Assault should be to Tank, so 3% shields 3% armour
Commando bonus to reload speed is general to suit, so its definitely relevant.
Because instead you 75% reduction to cloaks as general being the only suit worth fitting on them.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
2794
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Posted - 2014.02.03 02:40:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Commando and sentinal bonuses are both useful
nope. Scramblers/lasers do not need reloading anywhere near as bad as they require a heat reduction bonus any bonus to shield on the new amarr sentinel is garbage My points stand: Amarr assault bonusto rep speed? garbage sentinel bonus to shield? garbage commando bonus to reload speed? garbage scout bonus worth less than 1 militia mod? garbage 1 specialized suit out of 5 is getting any type of decent bonus....
The bonus to reload speed is attached to ALL of the commando suits, guy.
The Amarr Commando bonus gives +10% to laser weapon damage, which is incredibly useful.
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