Commando skills is ****. Thanks for nerfing an underpowered suit even more...

- Caldari Sentinels' Depleted Shield Delay looks like a typo. 1 is lower than it's recharge delay, so it's technically better to lose all your shields than a portion.

With Uprising 1.8 slowly taking shape, our Game Design team is now ready to share some of the Dropsuit Stats and Skills planned for release!

Please take a look at these spreadsheets and tell us what you think. Remember, this is all still early days and very much a work in progress!

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UPDATE: And due to the popular demand, here is the excel sheet version of all the data!

We're really excited to share these stats with you, and look forward to your constructive feedback! :)

How is a built-in damage bonus worse than the bonus to modules for the lowest module suit in the game???

Please change Gallente base armor to 600 and Amarr base armor to 500 or 550 at least.
Gallente Are supposed to naturally have more than usual armor because of their race.
Amarr is supposed to be powerful overall so even out their Shield/Armor ratio as before.-(It was perfect)-

Other than that, GALLENTE HEAVY SUIT'S????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING MEEEEEEE????!!!!
-(Clears throat)--(Manly voice)- I mean, cool. It's nice to finally see a change. Good work CCP....

Only problems I see so far:

- Amarr Commando's shields look a little bit low. They're EHP is on par with the Gallente/Caldari commandos but Amarr, being naturally slower, are supposed to have more EHP.
- Amarr Commando's also have more armor than Gallente? Is this intentional?
- Caldari Sentinels' Depleted Shield Delay looks like a typo. 1 is lower than it's recharge delay, so it's technically better to lose all your shields than a portion.

Love the scout changes. Thanks for listening to our feedback on that one.

Only problems I see so far:

- Amarr Commando's shields look a little bit low. They're EHP is on par with the Gallente/Caldari commandos but Amarr, being naturally slower, are supposed to have more EHP.
- Amarr Commando's also have more armor than Gallente? Is this intentional?
- Caldari Sentinels' Depleted Shield Delay looks like a typo. 1 is lower than it's recharge delay, so it's technically better to lose all your shields than a portion.

I was wondering this too, is there any way we can see the speed stats in m/s?

Why does the Winmatar sentinel have more armor than shield? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

This multiplier is in the SDE.

Sorry if ive missed something but...

MInmatar sentinal seems a little underwhelming compared to the others..... no noticable speed bonus, less hp, similar fitting.... what does IT have the others dont or can do better?

For example, Minmatar Sentinel is 5.67 sprint without bonuses. The bonus to sprint speed from biotic upgrades would boost it to 5.95. Minmatar Commando is even better with a sprint speed of 6.25 after the bonus.

To answer your question, the Minmatar Sentinel can dodge bullets 3x better than the Amarr one can. To put things in perspective, the Amarr logi's sprint speed is 6.37, and Amarr Sentinel is 5.37 with the bonus.

Just noticed that all scouts have an innate 5% hacking bonus... except the Minmatar scout who gets a 10% bonus. However, the Minmatar suit-skill-role bonus is also 5% hacking speed per level, right? Is it necessary to double up on the bonuses like that? Twice the innate suit bonus to hacking, and a per-level role-bonus for hacking as well?

Why does the Winmatar sentinel have more armor than shield? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Why are heavies still getting the short end of the stick on slot counts?

For the sacrifice in ehp the Minmatar sentinel is giving up vs other suits, shouldn't it be a whole lot faster than the other suits? 385 vs 405 does not seem significant.

Let's start by looking at the skill bonuses.

Sentenel:
The base splash resistance is nice. But does it apply to all splash, or just explosives? (IE a railgun shot). As-is, most splash damage effects deal 70% damage to shields, 130% to armor. This will help armor tanks way more than shield tanks.

Caldari: 15% resist to blaster, 10% resist to laser.
This means damage profiles will be as follows
Laser: 108%, Plasma: 93.5%, rail: 90%, Projectile 95%, Explosive: 60%
This makes lasers stay king of the hill, good.

Gallente: 15% to rail, 10% to projectile
thus:
Laser: 80%, Plasma: 90%, rail: 93.5%, Projectile: 99%, explosive: 90%
Looks good.

Amarr and Minmitar:
Hoo boy. the bonuses can only apply to ONE type of tank, so to get the full effect of the bonus out, you need to dual tank. Whereas the other two suits can dual tank OR single tank with other sorts of mods, and still get the full bonus.

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Commando:
The base effect is good, and will disproportionally effect swarm launchers and plasma cannons.
Caldari:
Light railgun weapons... So the Rail rifle (two variations) and the Sniper rifle (two variations). Not a lot of versatility there.

Gallente:
It will get bonuses to the assault rifle( FOUR variations) , the shotgun (Two variations) and the plasma cannon, which was already significantly buffed by the other bonus.

Amarr:
Bonuses to Laser rifle and Scrambler rifle (two variations)

Minmitar:
Bonuses to.... Combat rifle (Two variations). (and eventually, the precision rifle, when that gets released)

Huh, looks like the Minmitar gets bonuses to ONE possible gun, which has two variations, so their bonus shoehorns them very hard. Meanwhile the Gallente have three different base types of weapons, of which there are LOTS of variations, in addition to having the plasma cannon already buffed with the reload change.

Bottom line: Minmitar got a crappy bonus, Gallente has an excellent one.

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Scout:
As far as the bonus goes, I can't rightly say, as we don't know the cloak's pg/cpu cost.
Caldari: Scan radius and precision. Wonderful. Looks worthless, as this data is not shared with teammates.
Gallente: Scan radius and profile reduction. The profile reduction MIGHT come in handy. But given the static scan precision of active scanners, there is a target that once you are under, additional reduction doesn't help.
Minmitar: Hacking speed is a good bonus. Why does this suit get a bonus to a Caldari weapon?
Amarr: The slowest scout gets a stamina boost? I think this would work wonderfully with a laser rifle. Good job.

This looks interesting...does this sound right? Not that good with the maths side of stuff.


(Assume level 5 racial scout skill)

- Caldari Scout: 25% bonus to scan precision of 45 taking that down to 36, means they can't see any other scout? (all scouts have base suit profile of 35)

- Gallente Scout: cannot be seen by any suit in the game due to profile lowering from 35 down to 28

- I didn't want to see the profile reduction skill removed from all scouts (I play Minmatar) but with the reduction to base profile on the suits, I'm thinking this might be ok?

Obviously there are other skills and modules you can fit to further reduce these numbers, but assuming all skills are equal, I'm curious to know what the intention is behind some of these numbers. Is it all about avoidance of scanners and non-light suits, or is there a scout-on-scout meta-game happening here?

Why no info on assault suits?

Please invest more SP into the Patience skill.