\o/ Shield generators!

First. The dev blog is posted on the playstation blog site, not on the DUST blog site. Get your post right.

Second. Disappointing dev blog as it lacks a lot of information on what we don't already know. Though it was detailed enough regarding ths cloak and shield generator, it was still lacking in new content.

First. The dev blog is posted on the playstation blog site, not on the DUST blog site.

Some people are never happy. Ever.

We still need timeframe on things, we get a active scanner, when?(new build when?). And shield generator and cloak is coming later , when? I would not say its to much to ask for. Do we get it before summer or after.

Wish no more, with the shield generator youGÇÖll be able to deploy your own personal static shield bubble. Pretty handy when a ship is dropping bombs on your head from orbit or youGÇÖve been caught in the open by an enemy trying to melt you with a laser rifle.
Would love more details on this - is it a single-use item, is the shield stationary ("personal static"), can bullets/shots go out but not in, can people move through it ...???

Details, moar details ...

The shield is stationary, enemy fire can't penetrate... to a point. You can however walk straight through the field and take care of business.

The shield is stationary, enemy fire can't penetrate... to a point. You can however walk straight through the field and take care of business.

No, don't worry, you can't shoot from the inside out. Laser boys would have a field day!

I am assuming it's similar to the bubble shield from Halo 3. Surrounds you in a bubble and no fire (friendly or enemy) can penetrate it but you can walk through it. Lasts for X amount of time.

Similar yes, but the idea is that over time we'll be able to develop different types of shields with different applications. This is just where we're starting.

P.S. Fingers crossed that the 450% headshot modifier for scrambler pistols gets fixed in the next build.

It's certainly not something you can just casually fit. ItGÇÖs still in development, but the idea is that certain dropsuits will be better suited for its use than others. We don't want to see, or should I say not see, a whole team using it :-)

Sprinting/walking/crouching does not have an impact on whether or not you show up on the enemy minimap. Different dropsuits do have different signatures (with the scout having the lowest) that make you more or less likely to be picked up by an enemy scan. You can of course influence this with modules and the better the scanner the harder it will be to hide from it.

It's certainly not something you can just casually fit. ItGÇÖs still in development, but the idea is that certain dropsuits will be better suited for its use than others. We don't want to see, or should I say not see, a whole team using it :-)

I still don't understand why there even is a headshot bonus (except to keep the FPS crowd content). We're surrounded in energy shields and nanoscale reactive magnetic armor. Both of these technologies will take the hit equally regardless of if its our head or our pinky toe.

Can't talk about dropsuits right now I'm afraid, or any rumours you may have heard from Imperial Armaments.

Sprinting/walking/crouching does not have an impact on whether or not you show up on the enemy minimap. Different dropsuits do have different signatures (with the scout having the lowest) that make you more or less likely to be picked up by an enemy scan. You can of course influence this with modules and the better the scanner the harder it will be to hide from it.

Scan angle and range varies per scanner. You can see that on the minimap. You will see the blips on the minimap and 3D HUD along with a GÇ£ratingGÇ¥ of how successful the scan was. It will also be shared with your squad.

motion will disrupt the field to some extent

No, current is team. We've changed that now as it was creating a lot of noise.

oh no, that cloaking device is going to be horrible. Snipers are already a problem, you guys must have thought to make it an even bigger problem. Manus peak and the likes already have entire teams that resort to sniping, now they can become invisible :( I hope im not the only one that sees this as a problem.

I canGÇÖt believe you guessed whiskey dispenser already

oh no, that cloaking device is going to be horrible. Snipers are already a problem, you guys must have thought to make it an even bigger problem. Manus peak and the likes already have entire teams that resort to sniping, now they can become invisible :( I hope im not the only one that sees this as a problem.

Makes a lot of interesting points...

And in the same vein...
If you deploy a shield right next to a null cannon's hacking point could you effectively be immune from damage?
If two people deploy shields can they overlap? Could you have reinforcing shield walls?

You could use the shields to protect you whilst hacking, just not from the scout with the shotgun standing behind you!

Sprinting/walking/crouching does not have an impact on whether or not you show up on the enemy minimap. Different dropsuits do have different signatures (with the scout having the lowest) that make you more or less likely to be picked up by an enemy scan. You can of course influence this with modules and the better the scanner the harder it will be to hide from it.

You could use the shields to protect you whilst hacking, just not from the scout with the shotgun standing behind you!

WeGÇÖve not settled on a single size yet, one of the ideas weGÇÖre exploring is sacrificing HP for radius.

The cloak is an equipment item with an activation time and a cooldown. You canGÇÖt perform actions such as firing or hacking whilst cloaked. It is not finished so IGÇÖm very interested to hear your ideas on it before it is :-)

WeGÇÖve not settled on a single size yet, one of the ideas weGÇÖre exploring is sacrificing HP for radius.

yups point and shoot

yups point and shoot

Yeah, that sounds cool. Either different models or "hold and charge" to make shield expand so you can select based on situation.

The cloak is an equipment item with an activation time and a cooldown. You canGÇÖt perform actions such as firing or hacking whilst cloaked. It is not finished so IGÇÖm very interested to hear your ideas on it before it is :-)

The cloak is an equipment item with an activation time and a cooldown. You canGÇÖt perform actions such as firing or hacking whilst cloaked. It is not finished so IGÇÖm very interested to hear your ideas on it before it is :-)

Create a way for opponents to overload enemy cloaking devices, possibly doing damage when overloaded.

Will it roll out as a module for vehicles at the same time as dropsuits? I've seen the black ops vehicles and always been interested in them...blackops dropship

Will profile Dampening reduce the active scanner's negative effect of showing you on the map?

There will be no sticking of the gun through the field to fire, that would suck :-) Repair tool usage is undecided. Grenades currently canGÇÖt penetrate. They will have similar properties to normal shields in terms of damage resistance.

The cloak is an equipment item with an activation time and a cooldown. You canGÇÖt perform actions such as firing or hacking whilst cloaked. It is not finished so IGÇÖm very interested to hear your ideas on it before it is :-)

it will :-)

Sprinting/walking/crouching does not have an impact on whether or not you show up on the enemy minimap. Different dropsuits do have different signatures (with the scout having the lowest) that make you more or less likely to be picked up by an enemy scan. You can of course influence this with modules and the better the scanner the harder it will be to hide from it.

Second, I really agree with limiting it to certain suits, because as I said before, having a stealth logi who can drop his stealth and rez and recloak will be a little weird. Assault and scout only would seem optimal.

I'll think on it more as I play today, and come back with some more feedback later.

Going to have to disagree on the suit limitations. I think the cooldown will probably solve your concern. How would you feel if the logi had to wait, 10 seconds or so before being able to 're cloak'. What they haven't mentioned yet is movement penalties, which are a factor in Eve, but splash damage of a known location of a logi cloak might be enough to knock them off.

Sounds cool.

The requests for scanner mechanics seems to be popular.

We at D-UNI would be keen to know this kind of information finally so we can start putting classes together for this or at the least a Wiki page.

I only want to see the cloak useful for mobility purposes, not as an offensive item. It should be equipment that you have to actively hold for it to turn on. You have to turn it off and then switch to your weapon to be able to shoot someone. I'm not sure whether it should restrict someone from R3 melee as well, to prevent someone from stacking melee damage mods and just invisipunching people.

This game will be ******* stupid if you allow snipers to line up a shot while invisible.

I only want to see the cloak useful for mobility purposes, not as an offensive item. It should be equipment that you have to actively hold for it to turn on. You have to turn it off and then switch to your weapon to be able to shoot someone. I'm not sure whether it should restrict someone from R3 melee as well, to prevent someone from stacking melee damage mods and just invisipunching people.

This game will be ******* stupid if you allow snipers to line up a shot while invisible.

I only want to see the cloak useful for mobility purposes, not as an offensive item. It should be equipment that you have to actively hold for it to turn on. You have to turn it off and then switch to your weapon to be able to shoot someone. I'm not sure whether it should restrict someone from R3 melee as well, to prevent someone from stacking melee damage mods and just invisipunching people.

This game will be ******* stupid if you allow snipers to line up a shot while invisible.

I only want to see the cloak useful for mobility purposes, not as an offensive item. It should be equipment that you have to actively hold for it to turn on. You have to turn it off and then switch to your weapon to be able to shoot someone. I'm not sure whether it should restrict someone from R3 melee as well, to prevent someone from stacking melee damage mods and just invisipunching people.

This game will be ******* stupid if you allow snipers to line up a shot while invisible.

If you can't shoot... Make it like a nanohive where you need to hold the cloaking thing to remain cloaked.

A normal gun you could still sort of line up a shot... but for sniper rifles this makes a massive different to prevent sniper lamesauce. Also prevents shotgun and nova knife lamesauce to a lot of degrees. Being able to instantly shoot after cloak 'turns off' is almost just as bad as being able to take that first shot while cloaked. Cloaks should be a positional tool. Ideally If person B is watching the back of person A whom you're flanking just as you decloak.. Player B should be able to shoot you just about the same time you're starting to shoot their friend. Not after their friend is already dead because : trololol surprise: Cloaks should basically just be tools to help evade redlines and position yourself favorably. I abhor the idea of them being an offensive tool rather than a positional tool.


Please note : This is me telling you that something that would greatly improve my personal playstyle will be overpowered as hell from all description you've released so far. I love the idea of cloaks, but done wrong they can completely ruin a game by being too good... or conversely just be completely useless. I want to kick ass because of merit, not because the things I use are broken as hell :(

Ideal cloak implementation IMO is as follows:

-Active scanner/dropsuit scanner detects and decloaks someone and increases cooldown
-Being shot while cloaked decloaks someone and increases cooldown
-Cloak active length is not limited, 10-25s cooldown starts after deactivation
-De-activation has a quiet, yet audible noise to alert nearby people who are very alert (Similar to the terrifying hum of charged knives)
-No weapon can be equipped while cloaking; ideally accomplished by making the cloak an equipment piece the player must hold in their hands to use
-Cloak increases scan profile somewhat. Penalty to profile reduced by skill level in cloaking
-Always visual distortion, only amplified to be 'super visible' while sprinting: This is mitigated by being more susceptible to scanners of all varieties. You won't be able to get close to anyone cloaked if they have good/decent scanner modules on their suit, or are using active scanners to look for people. Active scanners should be the direct hard-counter and force people to decloak easily unless a player sacrifices all of their module slots to prevent this.
- Expanding on last point : When facing two max skilled players against each other at close range the scanner should always win. At longer ranges like 50-60m+ the cloaker should win out as the scanner should be less effective.
-Any suit should be able to use the cloak, provided it has equipment slots. Effectiveness and ease of detection is then related to scan profile. IE: The new heavy suit could get a cloak, but getting inside anyone's scan radius would pretty much instantly decloak him because his scan profile is so high
-Getting within extremely close range of another player (5-10m or so) should decloak a person regardless of each player's fit.
-The cloak module should have a very steep melee damage reduction modifier, to prevent people from just running around smacking people with it while they have damage modifiers for melee stacked
-Unable to throw grenades while cloaked (Make up whatever lore you like. Need both hands to power the thing from your suit or something like that.)

The shield is stationary, enemy fire can't penetrate... to a point. You can however walk straight through the field and take care of business.

Scan angle and range varies per scanner. You can see that on the minimap. You will see the blips on the minimap and 3D HUD along with a GÇ£ratingGÇ¥ of how successful the scan was. It will also be shared with your squad.

Invisible snipers shooting at invisible snipers.

*crickets*

Well, I already gave you a few of my ideas, but I was thinking of a few more. I'll throw them all in one post.

First, it should have high CPU/PG costs, enough so that you need to make real sacrifices on your high power modules to run the cloak.

Actually, I prefer to see the low-slot modules being sacrificed. After all that is where the profile dampeners and kinetic catalyzers are fitted. Therefore a cloak should have higher PG requirement in relation to CPU requirement. That way, I can still deal decent damage but at the expense of profile dampening and sprint speed.

Nice a cloak

If anything dont follow KZ3 cloaking method, it was easy exploitable

Do i get a cloak for my HAV?

But can ANY fire penetrate the shield? As in can my own weapons fire go through?

No, don't worry, you can't shoot from the inside out. Laser boys would have a field day!

I really hope that shield generators are re-usable. They would be a godsend for logis. The players they revive might actually survive long enough to fight back. I want every logi carrying one.

- I imagine they will be like nanohives, you'll get 2 or 3 per clone to use. I still want every logi carrying a shield generator. However, cloaking can go to hell. I can't wait for the onslaught of invisible shotgunners.

If any of them fire a shot, I'll be able to pinpoint their location with my ears. I have adapted to that already.

The second item is a Cloaking Field. This sneaky bit of kit will not only make you (almost) invisible to other combatants, it will also blind turret AI targeting systems. It isnGÇÖt perfect invisibility, scanners will still pick you up if you havenGÇÖt masked your signal well enough, motion will disrupt the field to some extent and weapon fire will cause the field to shut down.

webifier starts with w....

\o/ Shield generators!

So of the injector, repair, nanohive combo, which would you rather see the logi drop so he can carry the shield?

My guess is the nano-hive...which can be a source of a good chunk of points. I'm hoping that the shield will somehow give wp.

So of the injector, repair, nanohive combo, which would you rather see the logi drop so he can carry the shield?

My guess is the nano-hive...which can be a source of a good chunk of points. I'm hoping that the shield will somehow give wp.

If we get a webifier, I am using it on heavies, just to be a jerk.

Withe a knife! Like in Dune! Awsome!

So you know that there are a bunch of new weapons rolling off the New Eden production lines

This is excellent post. If we are about to get cloaks dear CCP, try hard and implement them right from day one.

I can see points based on whether or not a teammate is taking cover inside your shield or something similar. That's how they should do it, anyway. Otherwise nobody will use it over other gear and CCP is just wasting their time working on it.

- As a heavy, I can't use any of this kitten, so hoping logis make use of the shield is just about all I give a kitten about.

Instant battles is already causing peoples fun to go soft from afk farmers and the sniper epidemic.

If people want to go snipers thats fine. But the game rewards sniping disproportionately.

Isn't a stealth field going to make this worse? The sniping epidemic I mean. Cloaking snipers .

Yeah the mechanic for it definitely needs to work like an "hands on" equipment slot. If you are actively cloaked your character should be holding the device actively using it so that no insta kill headshot can be lined up. The second the character switches to his gun or any other sort of equipment the cloak should drop. Otherwise this game will turn into sniper wars 2.0

ItGÇÖs similar, range is dependent on the scanner you are using, shields and shooting donGÇÖt play in to it (currently) and using it does change your profile for the worse

The cloak is an equipment item with an activation time and a cooldown. You canGÇÖt perform actions such as firing or hacking whilst cloaked. It is not finished so IGÇÖm very interested to hear your ideas on it before it is :-)

I will very rarely be arrogant enough to say something like "My Idea is the only one that is right" even if I am sometimes passionate in my arguments, I am always willing to admit when someone else's idea is better than mine.


But in this case, I am saying that. Cloaks will -only- be a fair and positive addition to gameplay if they are presented as I proposed earlier in this thread, link right here for you

These points predict and counter pretty much any and all "lamesauce" related to cloaking -before- they can become an issue while still making them a fun and interesting addition to the game, using pre-existing systems as a hard counter and having those systems able to work in its favor as well. The number stuff like the decloaking deactivation cooldowns and ranges mentioned can be tweaked as I just proposed ballpark numbers, but the main points set in this post are absolutely essential for making cloaks something that is fun and rewarding to use that makes a positive contribution to the game, as opposed to something that people just whine about incessantly on the forums because it's broken as hell.


Like I said. I don't often say "My way or GTFO." But I'm saying it here. :(

Ideal cloak implementation IMO is as follows:

-Active scanner/dropsuit scanner detects and decloaks someone and increases cooldown [Should only make them show up as red dot on minimap]
-Being shot while cloaked decloaks someone and increases cooldown
-Cloak active length is not limited, 10-25s cooldown starts after deactivation [Cloak activation SHOULD be limited! 15-30 seconds, skill dependant. There should still be a cooldown timer of the length you propose]
-De-activation has a quiet, yet audible noise to alert nearby people who are very alert (Similar to the terrifying hum of charged knives)
-No weapon can be equipped while cloaking; ideally accomplished by making the cloak an equipment piece the player must hold in their hands to use
-Cloak increases scan profile somewhat. Penalty to profile reduced by skill level in cloaking
-Always visual distortion, only amplified to be 'super visible' while sprinting: This is mitigated by being more susceptible to scanners of all varieties. You won't be able to get close to anyone cloaked if they have good/decent scanner modules on their suit, or are using active scanners to look for people. Active scanners should be the direct hard-counter and force people to decloak easily unless a player sacrifices all of their module slots to prevent this.
- Expanding on last point : When facing two max skilled players against each other at close range the scanner should always win. At longer ranges like 50-60m+ the cloaker should win out as the scanner should be less effective.
-Any suit should be able to use the cloak, provided it has equipment slots. Effectiveness and ease of detection is then related to scan profile. IE: The new heavy suit could get a cloak, but getting inside anyone's scan radius would pretty much instantly decloak him because his scan profile is so high [Scouts MUST have some incentive (other than slightly lower scan profile) to use cloak, in this proposal they would only marginally better than a Logi dropsuit (50 Scan Profile rather than 45). They need to be MUCH better - special ability, greatly reduced CPU, greatly reduced movement penalty, greatly reduced cooldown timer...something of this sort.]
-Getting within extremely close range of another player (5-10m or so) should decloak a person regardless of each player's fit.
-The cloak module should have a very steep melee damage reduction modifier, to prevent people from just running around smacking people with it while they have damage modifiers for melee stacked [Nah. No melee when cloak activated, plus you decloak when you get it range of someone. If someone wants to bonus melee, let them, interesting gameplay variation - they will still be **** :) ]
-Unable to throw grenades while cloaked (Make up whatever lore you like. Need both hands to power the thing from your suit or something like that.)

Hi guys,

I thought IGÇÖd collate a bunch of info on the scanner and scanning to answer some of the questions IGÇÖve seen and was getting a bit too sleepy to answer last night. Hopefully this will clear things up.

Every active scanner has its own scan precision value. Every dropsuit has a scan profile value. If the precision is a lower value than the scan profile of the dropsuit, the scan will succeed and the scanned players will be shown on the players minimap, 3D HUD and that of his squad mates. Profile size from largest to smallest is Heavy Frame, Medium Frame, Light Frame.

Scanners are a point and shoot weapon, have a range, an angle, a scan duration, and a target visibility once scanned duration.

Dropsuits also have a passive scanning function that works in the same way as the scanner but is radial and always on. Your profile is not dynamic so it is not affected by movements such as crouching, sprinting or actions such as shooting. Nor does your ratio of shield to armour have any effect. This is something we might consider developing further in the future.

The scan profile of a dropsuit can be reduced by fitting profile dampeners which will protect users from both passive and active scanning by reducing their scan profile. The Profile Dampening skill will also give you a 2% reduction to your profile per level. Precision Enhancement (2% dropsuit precision bonus) and Range Amplification (10% dropsuit scan range) skills do not effect active scans, they only effect passive scans. Dropsuit command will no longer have a scan bonus associated with it.

The initial implementation of the scanner does not reveal the location of or change the profile of the dropsuit using it. We will consider adding this feature if it shows itself to be necessary. It will also not include scan specific WP rewards but we do want to intorduce them at some point.

Hope that helps clear things up :-)

CCP Wolfman

CCP Wolfman,

The dropsuit passive scanner doesn't seem to work in exactly the same way... why is it that sometimes I have to look at someone directly for a certain period of time for them to light up red on my HUD and minimap?

Also, does scan precision get worse with range? As in, If my scan precision is 44, I will 'spot' a scout (scan profile = 45) if they are standing very close, however, my scan precision drops off with range such that at 10m my precision is now 46 and I can no longer 'spot' the scout?

There is no drop off on scan precision over range. The other thing you mention seems strange...

If there is a sniper somewhere in the distance, and I am looking for him in the rock-line through a scope, if I find him, hover my crosshair over him for a couple of seconds only then does he light up as a red dot...

If there is a sniper somewhere in the distance, and I am looking for him in the rock-line through a scope, if I find him, hover my crosshair over him for a couple of seconds only then does he light up as a red dot...

afaik, line of sight and their chevrons have nothing to do with the scan mechanics. Barring odd behavior, if you see it in a main cone of vision, it lights up. (Like at the start of Manus Peak, if I'm running from A to C, I sweep my crosshairs along the ridgeline by the enemy MCC to see if there are snipers there and I need to move erratically.)

[quote=Citpaan Hacos]If its a chevron, they still appear on the minimap, right?

I want to know is the line-of-sight spotting affected by scan profile/precision. It should be! If anything, the time taken to LOS spot someone should be proportional to scan precision/scan profile.

If this is indeed another form of scanning or spotting (since it is probably well outside of passive scan range), is it also affected by scan profile/precision?

I would like to know:

• What determines the length of time I have to look directly at the person before they light up?
• How directly do I have to look at the person for them to light up? (within 5-10 degrees?)
• Is there a maximum range on this 'directional' spotting? I have noticed when sniping at very long range, sometimes no matter how long I look directly at them, people just don't light up.
• What effect, if any, do scan profile/precision have on this?

So a heavy suit has to now use one of its rare slots to decrease its profile? We are already a huge slow moving target now we get to wear a neon sign too? The heavy suit really needs more options in its fittings. Especially advanced nd proto suits.

The scan profile of a dropsuit can be reduced by fitting profile dampeners which will protect users from both passive and active scanning by reducing their scan profile. The Profile Dampening skill will also give you a 2% reduction to your profile per level.

Hi guys,

I thought IGÇÖd collate a bunch of info on the scanner and scanning to answer some of the questions IGÇÖve seen and was getting a bit too sleepy to answer last night. Hopefully this will clear things up.

Every active scanner has its own scan precision value. Every dropsuit has a scan profile value. If the precision is a lower value than the scan profile of the dropsuit, the scan will succeed and the scanned players will be shown on the players minimap, 3D HUD and that of his squad mates. Profile size from largest to smallest is Heavy Frame, Medium Frame, Light Frame.

Scanners are a point and shoot weapon, have a range, an angle, a scan duration, and a target visibility once scanned duration.

Dropsuits also have a passive scanning function that works in the same way as the scanner but is radial and always on. Your profile is not dynamic so it is not affected by movements such as crouching, sprinting or actions such as shooting. Nor does your ratio of shield to armour have any effect. This is something we might consider developing further in the future.

The scan profile of a dropsuit can be reduced by fitting profile dampeners which will protect users from both passive and active scanning by reducing their scan profile. The Profile Dampening skill will also give you a 2% reduction to your profile per level. Precision Enhancement (2% dropsuit precision bonus) and Range Amplification (10% dropsuit scan range) skills do not effect active scans, they only effect passive scans. Dropsuit command will no longer have a scan bonus associated with it.

The initial implementation of the scanner does not reveal the location of or change the profile of the dropsuit using it. We will consider adding this feature if it shows itself to be necessary. It will also not include scan specific WP rewards but we do want to intorduce them at some point.

Hope that helps clear things up :-)

CCP Wolfman

So a heavy suit has to now use one of its rare slots to decrease its profile? We are already a huge slow moving target now we get to wear a neon sign too?

It will also not include scan specific WP rewards but we do want to intorduce them at some point.

Unable to throw grenades while cloaked (Make up whatever lore you like. Need both hands to power the thing from your suit or something like that.)

Actually, I prefer to see the low-slot modules being sacrificed. After all that is where the profile dampeners and kinetic catalyzers are fitted. Therefore a cloak should have higher PG requirement in relation to CPU requirement. That way, I can still deal decent damage but at the expense of profile dampening and sprint speed.

Dropsuit command will no longer have a scan bonus associated with it.

give me proxy flux explosives

The blog mentioned "a bunch of new weapons [we know about ] rolling off the New Eden production lines in the next update..." I believe I must have missed this information and I cannot find any Dev blogs/posts stating what new weapons we will be getting. If someone could post a link please I would greatly appreciate it.

i guess its refering to the ones they told us about months and months ago

http://dust514.com/media/wallpapers/testers-tournament-unlock-5-5/

http://dust514.com/media/wallpapers/testers-tournament-unlock-3-5/

http://dust514.com/media/wallpapers/testers-tournament-unlock-1-5/

Well you can decrease your profile by the Profile Dampening skill.

The cloak is an equipment item with an activation time and a cooldown. You canGÇÖt perform actions such as firing or hacking whilst cloaked. It is not finished so IGÇÖm very interested to hear your ideas on it before it is :-)

um.... Doesn't it give 5% reduction ?

It needs a movement penalty, something like 25% for scouts and 50% for logi/assault. Running should decloak as well as taking any damage or coming within 5 to 10m of another player. Being detected with an active scanner should be considered as a decloaking method. Making it a only activated when held is probably the best way to balance its activation, still needs a 10 second cooldown on reactivation though. The idea of making it PG/CPU intensive is utter garbage unless scouts get some sort of bonus to mitigate that. It is hard enough to fit stuff on a scout suit as it is, it would be complete nonsense to basically lock them out of a module that is specifically made with them in mind.

Sorry you may have already answered this but will the active scanner detect deployed equipment such as nanohives, drop uplinks, and deployed remote explosives? Or just suits.

The shield is stationary, enemy fire can't penetrate... to a point. You can however walk straight through the field and take care of business.

The shield is stationary, enemy fire can't penetrate... to a point. You can however walk straight through the field and take care of business.

i remember reading it will be a point and shoot weapon like the repair tool

Why not have the cloaking device work the opposite way, the faster you go, the more cloaked you are. Sanding still renders you visible. This means as a scout, when you sprint across the map, you're a ghost, but when you stop to hack you become completely exposed. This also means snipers are able to get into position quick without being seen, but will be completely exposed when they camp up.

Puh-LEEZ CCP

This sounds awesome IMHO, and I don't even use scout suits.

For an active, you would just be constantly cloaked, maybe the active device could be like a cloaking bubble that could be deployable too, hide a medic in it or something.

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This would infact be a cool idea for a passive cloaking module.

For an active, you would just be constantly cloaked, maybe the active device could be like a cloaking bubble that could be deployable too, hide a medic in it or something.

For passive, the movement from the suit generates a distortion or something that provides that passive cloak the "power" it needs or whatever to cloak the user. For lore purposes. Mods could include batteries or field enhancers to either A extend the time it takes to decloak or decrease the time it takes to charge up to cloak the user or provide better cloaking which will render the user more "invisible" with less distortion which could possibly give away the users position.

What is wrong with you people? Are you all so blinded by "cool" factors that you cant see an idea that would make something obviously OP? Let me tell you how cloaks would work if you could run with them, and if they worked better while running. A shotgun scout runs behind your line cloaked unbeknownst to any of your team. Said scout proceeds to decloak and start one-shotting your entire line from behind; scout then reloads. All of these actions amount to right around, or more than, the 10 second cooldown timer to reactivate the cloak. So now the scout recloaks and rolls off in the sunset, with their multiple 12% speed mods, untouched by anybody.

Furthermore, the lore and physics behind the idea are assinine. A cloak could function in a number of ways, but the most accepted methods are the bending of light as well as a kind of cameras and screen kind of thing where little cameras constantly display your surroundings on little screens setup on your person. In either of these methods moving faster would cause a huge disturbance in the effectiveness of your cloak. The bending of light around a moving object is hard enough, but it would grow more effective as the object moves faster? No. Even the cameras option, the cameras would not be able to project images fast enough the faster the object moves.

Please think about things before going "ewwwwwww, ahhhhhhhhh. Thats so cool, please make this item obviously OP."

As for the lore, that adapts to whatever works for gameplay, but in EVE a weakness of cloaking devices work in that if you get close to another object, it decloaks you. If we apply that logic to my version of the cloak, this means you become visible when standing still and visible if you get within X amount of metres of another player/vehicle.

How does applying that logic equate to stading still makes you decloak? Do you even see how faulty your logic is here? This seems to be a clear cut case of "its cool and I want it" or "I can benefit from it being made this way" to me. Youre not really thinking about game balance at all.

Edit: Furthermore, to point out how assinine your logic is, cloaks in EVE have movement penalties. So how do you apply that to your "moving faster makes you cloak better" BS.

I have however played a lot of online games with the traditional moving slow cloak, and it just doesn't seem suitable to the fast gameplay in DUST.

What I would like to see from you is an argument why the traditional form of cloaking, or your own version is more balanced, or superior. I mean it's fine to disagree with my idea, but at least put some effort into a constructive counter argument please.

We obviously arent playing the same game.




Ive already given you that, youre obviously just too ignorant to comprehend it.

I've seen in the blog a list of items to come, but one that wasn't listed was the plasma cannon shown in pictures released from a previous event, will this be a new weapon for the next build too.

H.D

"W" ... as in waypoints?

I would also like to be able to hack an enemy's drop uplink or nanohives.

How about begins with a "C"? As in "claymore" ... desperately waiting for these!

How would claymore be different to the proximity explosives?