oh no, that cloaking device is going to be horrible. Snipers are already a problem, you guys must have thought to make it an even bigger problem. Manus peak and the likes already have entire teams that resort to sniping, now they can become invisible :( I hope im not the only one that sees this as a problem.

The cloak is an equipment item with an activation time and a cooldown. You canGÇÖt perform actions such as firing or hacking whilst cloaked. It is not finished so IGÇÖm very interested to hear your ideas on it before it is :-)

The shield is stationary, enemy fire can't penetrate... to a point. You can however walk straight through the field and take care of business.

Invisible snipers shooting at invisible snipers.

*crickets*

I really hope that shield generators are re-usable. They would be a godsend for logis. The players they revive might actually survive long enough to fight back. I want every logi carrying one.

- I imagine they will be like nanohives, you'll get 2 or 3 per clone to use. I still want every logi carrying a shield generator. However, cloaking can go to hell. I can't wait for the onslaught of invisible shotgunners.

The shield is stationary, enemy fire can't penetrate... to a point. You can however walk straight through the field and take care of business.

If you can't shoot... Make it like a nanohive where you need to hold the cloaking thing to remain cloaked.

A normal gun you could still sort of line up a shot... but for sniper rifles this makes a massive different to prevent sniper lamesauce. Also prevents shotgun and nova knife lamesauce to a lot of degrees. Being able to instantly shoot after cloak 'turns off' is almost just as bad as being able to take that first shot while cloaked. Cloaks should be a positional tool. Ideally If person B is watching the back of person A whom you're flanking just as you decloak.. Player B should be able to shoot you just about the same time you're starting to shoot their friend. Not after their friend is already dead because : trololol surprise: Cloaks should basically just be tools to help evade redlines and position yourself favorably. I abhor the idea of them being an offensive tool rather than a positional tool.


Please note : This is me telling you that something that would greatly improve my personal playstyle will be overpowered as hell from all description you've released so far. I love the idea of cloaks, but done wrong they can completely ruin a game by being too good... or conversely just be completely useless. I want to kick ass because of merit, not because the things I use are broken as hell :(

Ideal cloak implementation IMO is as follows:

-Active scanner/dropsuit scanner detects and decloaks someone and increases cooldown
-Being shot while cloaked decloaks someone and increases cooldown
-Cloak active length is not limited, 10-25s cooldown starts after deactivation
-De-activation has a quiet, yet audible noise to alert nearby people who are very alert (Similar to the terrifying hum of charged knives)
-No weapon can be equipped while cloaking; ideally accomplished by making the cloak an equipment piece the player must hold in their hands to use
-Cloak increases scan profile somewhat. Penalty to profile reduced by skill level in cloaking
-Always visual distortion, only amplified to be 'super visible' while sprinting: This is mitigated by being more susceptible to scanners of all varieties. You won't be able to get close to anyone cloaked if they have good/decent scanner modules on their suit, or are using active scanners to look for people. Active scanners should be the direct hard-counter and force people to decloak easily unless a player sacrifices all of their module slots to prevent this.
- Expanding on last point : When facing two max skilled players against each other at close range the scanner should always win. At longer ranges like 50-60m+ the cloaker should win out as the scanner should be less effective.
-Any suit should be able to use the cloak, provided it has equipment slots. Effectiveness and ease of detection is then related to scan profile. IE: The new heavy suit could get a cloak, but getting inside anyone's scan radius would pretty much instantly decloak him because his scan profile is so high
-Getting within extremely close range of another player (5-10m or so) should decloak a person regardless of each player's fit.
-The cloak module should have a very steep melee damage reduction modifier, to prevent people from just running around smacking people with it while they have damage modifiers for melee stacked
-Unable to throw grenades while cloaked (Make up whatever lore you like. Need both hands to power the thing from your suit or something like that.)

So of the injector, repair, nanohive combo, which would you rather see the logi drop so he can carry the shield?

My guess is the nano-hive...which can be a source of a good chunk of points. I'm hoping that the shield will somehow give wp.

I only want to see the cloak useful for mobility purposes, not as an offensive item. It should be equipment that you have to actively hold for it to turn on. You have to turn it off and then switch to your weapon to be able to shoot someone. I'm not sure whether it should restrict someone from R3 melee as well, to prevent someone from stacking melee damage mods and just invisipunching people.

This game will be ******* stupid if you allow snipers to line up a shot while invisible.