The cloak is an equipment item with an activation time and a cooldown. You canGÇÖt perform actions such as firing or hacking whilst cloaked. It is not finished so IGÇÖm very interested to hear your ideas on it before it is :-)

Create a way for opponents to overload enemy cloaking devices, possibly doing damage when overloaded.

Will it roll out as a module for vehicles at the same time as dropsuits? I've seen the black ops vehicles and always been interested in them...blackops dropship

Will profile Dampening reduce the active scanner's negative effect of showing you on the map?

There will be no sticking of the gun through the field to fire, that would suck :-) Repair tool usage is undecided. Grenades currently canGÇÖt penetrate. They will have similar properties to normal shields in terms of damage resistance.

The cloak is an equipment item with an activation time and a cooldown. You canGÇÖt perform actions such as firing or hacking whilst cloaked. It is not finished so IGÇÖm very interested to hear your ideas on it before it is :-)

it will :-)

Sprinting/walking/crouching does not have an impact on whether or not you show up on the enemy minimap. Different dropsuits do have different signatures (with the scout having the lowest) that make you more or less likely to be picked up by an enemy scan. You can of course influence this with modules and the better the scanner the harder it will be to hide from it.

Second, I really agree with limiting it to certain suits, because as I said before, having a stealth logi who can drop his stealth and rez and recloak will be a little weird. Assault and scout only would seem optimal.

I'll think on it more as I play today, and come back with some more feedback later.

Going to have to disagree on the suit limitations. I think the cooldown will probably solve your concern. How would you feel if the logi had to wait, 10 seconds or so before being able to 're cloak'. What they haven't mentioned yet is movement penalties, which are a factor in Eve, but splash damage of a known location of a logi cloak might be enough to knock them off.

Sounds cool.

The requests for scanner mechanics seems to be popular.

We at D-UNI would be keen to know this kind of information finally so we can start putting classes together for this or at the least a Wiki page.

I only want to see the cloak useful for mobility purposes, not as an offensive item. It should be equipment that you have to actively hold for it to turn on. You have to turn it off and then switch to your weapon to be able to shoot someone. I'm not sure whether it should restrict someone from R3 melee as well, to prevent someone from stacking melee damage mods and just invisipunching people.

This game will be ******* stupid if you allow snipers to line up a shot while invisible.

I only want to see the cloak useful for mobility purposes, not as an offensive item. It should be equipment that you have to actively hold for it to turn on. You have to turn it off and then switch to your weapon to be able to shoot someone. I'm not sure whether it should restrict someone from R3 melee as well, to prevent someone from stacking melee damage mods and just invisipunching people.

This game will be ******* stupid if you allow snipers to line up a shot while invisible.

I only want to see the cloak useful for mobility purposes, not as an offensive item. It should be equipment that you have to actively hold for it to turn on. You have to turn it off and then switch to your weapon to be able to shoot someone. I'm not sure whether it should restrict someone from R3 melee as well, to prevent someone from stacking melee damage mods and just invisipunching people.

This game will be ******* stupid if you allow snipers to line up a shot while invisible.

I only want to see the cloak useful for mobility purposes, not as an offensive item. It should be equipment that you have to actively hold for it to turn on. You have to turn it off and then switch to your weapon to be able to shoot someone. I'm not sure whether it should restrict someone from R3 melee as well, to prevent someone from stacking melee damage mods and just invisipunching people.

This game will be ******* stupid if you allow snipers to line up a shot while invisible.

If you can't shoot... Make it like a nanohive where you need to hold the cloaking thing to remain cloaked.

A normal gun you could still sort of line up a shot... but for sniper rifles this makes a massive different to prevent sniper lamesauce. Also prevents shotgun and nova knife lamesauce to a lot of degrees. Being able to instantly shoot after cloak 'turns off' is almost just as bad as being able to take that first shot while cloaked. Cloaks should be a positional tool. Ideally If person B is watching the back of person A whom you're flanking just as you decloak.. Player B should be able to shoot you just about the same time you're starting to shoot their friend. Not after their friend is already dead because : trololol surprise: Cloaks should basically just be tools to help evade redlines and position yourself favorably. I abhor the idea of them being an offensive tool rather than a positional tool.


Please note : This is me telling you that something that would greatly improve my personal playstyle will be overpowered as hell from all description you've released so far. I love the idea of cloaks, but done wrong they can completely ruin a game by being too good... or conversely just be completely useless. I want to kick ass because of merit, not because the things I use are broken as hell :(

Ideal cloak implementation IMO is as follows:

-Active scanner/dropsuit scanner detects and decloaks someone and increases cooldown
-Being shot while cloaked decloaks someone and increases cooldown
-Cloak active length is not limited, 10-25s cooldown starts after deactivation
-De-activation has a quiet, yet audible noise to alert nearby people who are very alert (Similar to the terrifying hum of charged knives)
-No weapon can be equipped while cloaking; ideally accomplished by making the cloak an equipment piece the player must hold in their hands to use
-Cloak increases scan profile somewhat. Penalty to profile reduced by skill level in cloaking
-Always visual distortion, only amplified to be 'super visible' while sprinting: This is mitigated by being more susceptible to scanners of all varieties. You won't be able to get close to anyone cloaked if they have good/decent scanner modules on their suit, or are using active scanners to look for people. Active scanners should be the direct hard-counter and force people to decloak easily unless a player sacrifices all of their module slots to prevent this.
- Expanding on last point : When facing two max skilled players against each other at close range the scanner should always win. At longer ranges like 50-60m+ the cloaker should win out as the scanner should be less effective.
-Any suit should be able to use the cloak, provided it has equipment slots. Effectiveness and ease of detection is then related to scan profile. IE: The new heavy suit could get a cloak, but getting inside anyone's scan radius would pretty much instantly decloak him because his scan profile is so high
-Getting within extremely close range of another player (5-10m or so) should decloak a person regardless of each player's fit.
-The cloak module should have a very steep melee damage reduction modifier, to prevent people from just running around smacking people with it while they have damage modifiers for melee stacked
-Unable to throw grenades while cloaked (Make up whatever lore you like. Need both hands to power the thing from your suit or something like that.)

The shield is stationary, enemy fire can't penetrate... to a point. You can however walk straight through the field and take care of business.

Scan angle and range varies per scanner. You can see that on the minimap. You will see the blips on the minimap and 3D HUD along with a GÇ£ratingGÇ¥ of how successful the scan was. It will also be shared with your squad.