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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.15 19:25:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 180 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. Holy moly, what a likefarm!
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.16 23:28:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:My sincerest apologies if this has been previously addressed (it's just dem 13 pages tho):
If all suits have proto tier slot layouts according to race/role, what is to stop a basic level user from fitting their suit as if it were a different suit?
For example: Let us say I have only invested enough skill points for one level of Gallente Assault which allows me the use of only STD level dropsuits. Presently this suit has a slot layout of 1/3. A proto level GallAss has a layout of 3/5. Under this system, despite having only one level, I would have the 3/5 layout with only PG/CPU to limit my fitting choices. What is there to stop me from using the "power core" cpu/pg allotment to fit all three high slots? The current system allows only one.
If the answer is nothing, then this system also makes dropsuit RACE a redundant asset at early levels. I can now fit my std GA Assaultif it were a std Cal Assault. So if this is true, then why have racial suits at all? Just have one generic role suit?
To manitain racial layouts, you could remove racial slot layouts from the dropsuit and instead tie it to each power grid module, but then you have the same situation we have currently, only trading the suit for a module. No benefits will be gained.
How does this system work without confusing Race/Role slot layouts of differing skill levels? I guess I could Armour stack my Minja and pretend it's an Amarr Assault, but that doesn't mean it would be good at it. So whilst you COULD try to fit your Dropsuit like another suit, it wouldn't be that effective. I mean, you could fit a Gal Assault like a Cal Assault now, but do you? I don't see how this would change anything.
My apologies if I've misunderstood what you were getting at.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.17 00:10:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I mean, you could fit a Gal Assault like a Cal Assault now, but do you? I don't see how this would change anything. A layout of 3/5 contains within it the 3/1 layout of a STD CALASS. An uninhibited pg/cpu allotment allows me to fit the Std GALASS 3/1 (out of the 3/5) the exactly same way I fit the Std CALASS 3/1, thus removing Racial Slot Layouts as a limiting aspect differentiating these two STD level dropsuits, one from the other. Ok. In that case, the inherent attributes of the Suits would differentiate them from each other, i.e. Shield regen. However, it would only be like that for the Standard suits in the situation that you're describing.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.17 01:05:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Avallo Kantor wrote:You misunderstand the tiericide; the pg / CPU allotment for each level is based around fitting ALL slots with that level of module. Then I am not sure I am in favor of tiericide. You can design for what you intend to happen but players will ALWAYS use it as THEY intend. Give me a 3/5 layout and a STD level module with enough resources to fit all at basic and I'll leave 4 slots empty (or fit boosters in them) and fit as much ADV and PROTO as I can. APEX suits avoid this only because they have all slots with locked in pre fits; you cannot leave a slot empty. You will understand when you see Std level resourced GalAss bouncing around with 3 fibs and 4 or 5 empty low slots or a Std level resourced AmrAss running triple stacked shield extenders and an armor plate in a low slot. That'll be fine, because those fits will probably be less effective than their balanced-fitted counterparts.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.20 16:36:00 -
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Is Aero a Dev alt?
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.24 18:55:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I did an interview with Shayz which had prepared questions and went pretty straight forward. Not sure if it was ever uploaded. I'd be down for more if anyone is still confused about this whole ordeal, preferably with a little bit more warming ahead of time.
I think pretty much everyone understands the concept by now though. What would be more interesting is a topic discussing specific CPU and PG values for standard and advanced powercores. . . I'm convinced you're a Dev alt.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.24 21:14:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I did an interview with Shayz which had prepared questions and went pretty straight forward. Not sure if it was ever uploaded. I'd be down for more if anyone is still confused about this whole ordeal, preferably with a little bit more warming ahead of time.
I think pretty much everyone understands the concept by now though. What would be more interesting is a topic discussing specific CPU and PG values for standard and advanced powercores. . . I'm convinced you're a Dev alt. The main fallacy here is none of the devs like the Amarr, outside of when we had Wolfman. Even with the Amarr's officer suit none of the devs wanted to put their name on it, and made it the clear worst officer. Unless that's all part of my master disguise! Hmm... You have better grammar than most of the Devs, that's for sure... That may just be a disguise though... I could imagine a Dev getting as involved in RP and FW as you are, and the reason why none of the Devs wanted to put their name on the Officer suit could be that they are only Amarr supporters on their main, i.e. you. Naturally, they couldn't put the Yassavi name on the suits, since that would give away their identity.
Would you like a tinfoil hat too?
If you were a Dev alt, I estimate you would have between 200-400 kills per week, since Rattati has said that he often plays a couple a games every day, though he couldn't play it all the time, I'm sure. I'll check that later tonight...
I definitely think you are a good contender for Rattati's alt, or perhaps another Dev. I need to hear you speak though to see if you have an Icelandic accent...
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.07.30 02:04:00 -
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So is this still happening or what?
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