A couple post back, the sniper rifle argument brought up an issue that really needs to be addressed. HMG with a logi train behind them, turning them damn near invincible. Sure, there are ways around it, just like there are ways to counter a sniper in the red zone, but the cost to take out this combo is far to high. Because it is so powerful, this is become far to normal occurrence in this game, making a fight in a city with two or three of these combo's pointless to even try. Now I understand that in some situations, a logi train is needed, but something needs to make it easier to stop this setup.

I have two ideas, either add a heat build up to rep tools, nothing major enough that it will overheat in a fire fight, just enough so that they can't keep the trigger pulled the entire match and just run in circles, following their master like dogs. OR, add a stacking penalty to any rep tools applied after the first, like 1/4 less efficiency for every additional rep tool.

Besides that, can you PLEASE fix the smart deploy in ambush. Once the other team has over run your main force, it's over, because every other teammate is spawning into the middle of gun fire, or the middle of the other teams forces with no time to react. Make it so they spawn around any squad leader not currently taking damage or something, anything, just please change it. And the auto tuning to team chat crap.

Everything else sounds great though, even though your messing with my beloved SCR, I'll take it.

Dear Rattati....

What about delay before remote explosive activation?
What about delay after decloaking before first shot?

-15/+15

or

-10/+10 but then make plasma weapons +5/-5 and rail weapons -5/+5

!!!

Swarms - efficiency against assault dropships needs to be improved fairly, there are a few ways (increased speed, nerf afterburners, increased lock on timers, probably not lock on range nor damage). We will buff normal dropship ehp to make up for their shortcomings.

Hehe, extremely UP suits.

Then give All other suits the same speed as the Minmatar suits.

Snipers - We simply cannot have snipers so far away in the redzone they cannot be touched, while also being immune to countersniping. However, we also want to improve the Improved headshot damage, decreased range, improved damage. We have been studying Domination maps, and some of the farthest redline sniper spots that can camp the Objective to get a good gauge of the situation. There cannot be a risk free way of playing the game, for each role there must be a counter.

What to do about melee in the case of a delay? I don't think they can disable a button with a server side update.

i cant wait for all the triple damage modded 1000 ehp ak.0s with combat and assault combat rifles. im calling it right now

Still no change to the assault swarm launcher role?

theres an assault swarm launcher?

who knew

Seriously? more changes to swarms? are you not aware that 3 swarm volleys can knock down any proto incubus/python guaranteed?

is it not enough that you send us scurrying away with our heads between our legs every time we see those fiery yellow balls?

You dont even render half the time... can lock on from 175 m.... and can deal huge amounts of damage by simply pointing at us for 1.4 seconds... that's ridiculous... there is no skill at all involved in that... try flying for a change... it's hard enough for new players as it is.

I dont know why swarms can't be content to be a heavy damage area denial weapon... why do they feel they should kill a high skill pilot in a 500k dropship every time he shows his face... these steps have been in the wrong direction and i fear ads's will be nerfed beyond help at this rate.

If 2 swarm launcher volley hits me, an ishukone assault forge can 1 shot me... 2 volleys tend to connect most of the time... that means i either have to dodge that forge gun or dodge the swarms... as the forge gun is a higher skill player aimed weapon i dont have a problem with forgers beating the hell out of me... but a dude who just points at me and kills me in 5 seconds? i cant have that unless you reduce the price of ads, its bad enough losing this much isk as it is

My concern with this is that tower snipers will be just as hard to counter as they presently are but will radically increase in power. Since they are high up, they get headshots almost by default. So risk/reward might be even more unbalanced by the suggested change.

Dear players

Standard and Breach Forgegun and Railgun Turret splash radius reduced or removed. Blast stays on Assault Forge Guns. Holding a charge with a splash makes sniping in many cases redundant, and the Forge is primarily AV.

Turrets
Small Rail ROF reduced

Shield Modules - 15% or so CPU reduction of Energizers, Regulators and Rechargers

Nanite Injectors - heal same amount of shields as armor, yes quite a buff

Let's have a courteous and constructive dialogue and detailed threads will be hitting shortly.

Seriously? more changes to swarms? are you not aware that 3 swarm volleys can knock down any proto incubus/python guaranteed?

is it not enough that you send us scurrying away with our heads between our legs every time we see those fiery yellow balls?

You dont even render half the time... can lock on from 175 m.... and can deal huge amounts of damage by simply pointing at us for 1.4 seconds... that's ridiculous... there is no skill at all involved in that... try flying for a change... it's hard enough for new players as it is.

I dont know why swarms can't be content to be a heavy damage area denial weapon... why do they feel they should kill a high skill pilot in a 500k dropship every time he shows his face... these steps have been in the wrong direction and i fear ads's will be nerfed beyond help at this rate.

If 2 swarm launcher volley hits me, an ishukone assault forge can 1 shot me... 2 volleys tend to connect most of the time... that means i either have to dodge that forge gun or dodge the swarms... as the forge gun is a higher skill player aimed weapon i dont have a problem with forgers beating the hell out of me... but a dude who just points at me and kills me in 5 seconds? i cant have that unless you reduce the price of ads, its bad enough losing this much isk as it is

I honestly don't understand how anyone can make these claims in good faith.

You get hit, then you drive off in your land-tank or you fly away in your sky-tank.
How is it that the most ineffective weapon in the game is "a little bit too good"?

Errm excuse me? Holding a charge with a splash makes sniping redundant? That sentence does not even make sense....



This is good and a welcome change as long as you dont nerf it TOO far.



This all seems good, I quite like the injector changes.

With dropships in their current state, swarms are strong enough that they force you to leave. At this point I don't think anything should be done with swarms, but I think PG and CPU along with the way modules work on dropships is a huge issue for them. HAV's have a better chance than dropships. In good faith I can tell you that this weapon along with forge guns, HAV's, and installations has reduced effectiveness of all the variants of dropships. You should play as a dropship pilot and see how hard it is to escape from swarms, and even an HAV as well. That may clear up what you are not seeing from the big picture.

Why are you nerfing the Assault HMG when it isn't even viable, really? It can't compete with Rails, and when it goes to its optimal range, the Burst or Regular HMG still beats it? I haven't met a heavy who says that the Assault HMG can compete with anything else.