it will overheat quickly, it is not meant to stand up to any Heavy with a STD HMG

The other issue with snipers is hit boxes (not hit detection). You can see them poking their heads of the hills in the back of the map, but if you're not of an equal or higher height, then you can do absolutely no damage to them as a counter sniper. This is especially apparent when discovering someone sitting atop the MCC, and killing them can be nearly impossible depending on their exact location on it, as the MCC's hit box extends beyond the actual MCC model.

Caldari commando has best of bost worlds, it has the rail rifle, and it has the swarm launcher. That is the unique 2 light arm weapons CCP has bestowed on it. You can kill a vehicle one moment while mowing down infranty, if that is your choice to solely play as an Caldari only commando. for Amarr it's Lasers and Scramblers, for Gallente its Assault Rifles, Shotguns, and Plasma cannons, Minmitar, Combat Rifles, and Mass Drivers. I mean seriously, what more can you ask for other then perhaps the introduction of new light weapons, but giving a sniper rifle to any type of Heavy suit or medium suit breaks the game function. This is simple logic in my eyes to grasp, Something well armored should not be able to shoot across the field given how many factors stack within it's favor.

Fallacy.
1.mcc snipers are highly exposed.
the reason that you see them before you can hit them is because they are standing on an invisible shield. so all you need to do is widen your angle, keep a close eye on your target stats.. don't shoot until you see the name of a dropsuit and 175%.

the mcc is one of the few places that a player can't headglitch because you get a reading if your pointing at the mcc instead of the sniper, you don't get that luxary with mountains.

2.snipers are supposed to be stealthy and hard to find, they are not invisible they are just good at hiding or you are poor at sniping.. finding a counter sniper is normally harder than finding a sniper. aggressive snipers only use a handful of places, counters can come from anywhere.

3, you say that a proto calmando, with an officer variant in a pub match is high reward for low risk...
your having a laugh pal,
what would you say that the reward should be then for taking the highest cost suit for sniping with the only irreplaceable sniper rifle to a pub match should be?
also don't forget that player can't use their thales in a pc match because nobody wwants a sniper on their team in pc- we almost all lose that option when we decide to play a sniper, and skill doesn't matter btw.

and another point... don't blame snipers for using the calmando suit, it's not our fault that ccp decided it would be a good idea to force snipers into the calmando suit to give us a higher profile and bigger hit box... now we get called scrubs because we use the fit that we were shoved into using.. the calmando suit even with level 5 was a nerf compared to when we could choose our fits.

and to ccp, if you folk dare to give a light frame a bonus to sniping or change the calmando bonuses to make it less effective now because of these people you can expect a constant stream of support tickets until i get a respec.
not a threat but a promise.

[...]
Other
Damage profiles - Projectiles (Combat Rifles, etc) to -15%, 15%, or -20/+20 from -5%, +10%, plus fixing turret damage profiles to match intended design
[...]

Remember the sidearm that has worse stats than it's militia tier version, the Recruit SMG? It still needs to be fixed.

Wasn't that fixed awhile ago?

Fallacy.
1.mcc snipers are highly exposed.
the reason that you see them before you can hit them is because they are standing on an invisible shield. so all you need to do is widen your angle, keep a close eye on your target stats.. don't shoot until you see the name of a dropsuit and 175%.

the mcc is one of the few places that a player can't headglitch because you get a reading if your pointing at the mcc instead of the sniper, you don't get that luxary with mountains.

2.snipers are supposed to be stealthy and hard to find, they are not invisible they are just good at hiding or you are poor at sniping.. finding a counter sniper is normally harder than finding a sniper. aggressive snipers only use a handful of places, counters can come from anywhere.

3, you say that a proto calmando, with an officer variant in a pub match is high reward for low risk...
your having a laugh pal,
what would you say that the reward should be then for taking the highest cost suit for sniping with the only irreplaceable sniper rifle to a pub match should be?
also don't forget that player can't use their thales in a pc match because nobody wwants a sniper on their team in pc- we almost all lose that option when we decide to play a sniper, and skill doesn't matter btw.

and another point... don't blame snipers for using the calmando suit, it's not our fault that ccp decided it would be a good idea to force snipers into the calmando suit to give us a higher profile and bigger hit box... now we get called scrubs because we use the fit that we were shoved into using.. the calmando suit even with level 5 was a nerf compared to when we could choose our fits.

and to ccp, if you folk dare to give a light frame a bonus to sniping or change the calmando bonuses to make it less effective now because of these people you can expect a constant stream of support tickets until i get a respec.
not a threat but a promise.

I strongly believe a -5/+5 is a better choice here. Projectile weapon users seek adaptability. This brings down the damage a bit without taking away it's 'jack of all trades' nature. It also makes the weapon proficiencies more desirable.

Dear players

we are ready to share our narrative for Hotfix Delta. As usual, some, all or none of these changes may end up being deployed when the Hotfix is ready. I also want to share that we are very happy with the new CPM and that we are starting to gel as a team that wants only the best for DUST 514. Lots of positive interaction and discussions in the last few weeks.

These are the high level gameplay features we want to look at for Delta.

Weapons
Sidearms - rebalance in a similar way as rifles were, ranges, requirements and damage, mainly through buffing and tuning existing weapon behaviour (reducing ion seize, ROF on scrambler, flaylock power and blast radius, to name a few ideas)

Add all Miltia Sidearms and Miltia HMG to Market

Snipers - We simply cannot have snipers so far away in the redzone they cannot be touched, while also being immune to countersniping. However, we also want to improve the Improved headshot damage, decreased range, improved damage. We have been studying Domination maps, and some of the farthest redline sniper spots that can camp the Objective to get a good gauge of the situation. There cannot be a risk free way of playing the game, for each role there must be a counter.

Plasma Cannon - increased projectile speed

Swarms - efficiency against assault dropships needs to be improved fairly, there are a few ways (increased speed, nerf afterburners, increased lock on timers, probably not lock on range nor damage). We will buff normal dropship ehp to make up for their shortcomings.

Rifles - tweaks to Scrambler, Assault Scrambler and Assault Rifles (plasma)

Assault HMG buffed, burst HMG needs a slight tune down

Dropsuits
Minmatar dropsuits - small ehp buff across the board

Standard and Breach Forgegun and Railgun Turret splash radius reduced or removed. Blast stays on Assault Forge Guns. Holding a charge with a splash makes sniping in many cases redundant, and the Forge is primarily AV.

Turrets
Small Rail ROF reduced

Large Blaster splash reduced

Small Blaster splash increased, maybe range increase

Vehicles
HAV inertia increased so switching from forward to backward movement is more realistic, and reduce fuel injector boost to speed.

Shield based HAV and DS buffed ehp, Gunnlogi and Myron

Other
Damage profiles - Projectiles (Combat Rifles, etc) to -15%, 15%, or -20/+20 from -5%, +10%, plus fixing turret damage profiles to match intended design

NPE - all Frontline starter suits will have racial pistols, snipers smg's, and others magsecs, academy length increased, all new players injected with dropsuit upgrades skills (shield armor and core). Granting these skills coupled with militia sidearms and hmg allows us to reduce starting ISK to 25K

Shield Modules - 15% or so CPU reduction of Energizers, Regulators and Rechargers

Nanite Injectors - heal same amount of shields as armor, yes quite a buff

Nova Knife optimization skill added

Add new Officer Light Weapons as well as key missing FW items to the LP Store


Most of these issues have been mentioned and discussed on the forums, discovered through data or raised by the CPM.

Let's have a courteous and constructive dialogue and detailed threads will be hitting shortly.

Until marauders and enforcers are introduced, no buffs to forge fun capability at AV should be contemplated.

I say this as a habitual forge gunner. They kill vehicles just fine.

can someone explain to me why the CR profile should be 15/15 or 20/20?

I dont mind it if it changes but I dont understand the logic. (or consistency)

I thought Minmitar did shield and tank? If I look at their assault layouts for example its 4/4 - balanced.

So why wouldnt it be 5/5 - closer to parity?



Yes to the breach buff but it also needs a slight buff to its Rof as well



for echo you need to review EWAR. scouts are still better than assaults because of this. EHP is meaningless when you can be invisible to and see 90% of the field (Plus that second equipment slot)

I'm confused...
15/15 is less balanced than 5/5?

Maybe my maths is off...
As a fraction.
15//15 is 1
5/5 is 1
OK then as a sum then...
-15,+15 = 0
-5,+5 = 0.

ERM...

N.b sot sure I understand your issues on this one anyway, the majority of heavies are armour tankers, after 1 flux in r if you find them with no shield then you get +15 or 20% vs armour.

Yes, but if they are a heavy-only weapon that has next to no AI abilities (especially for the vast majority of players) they shouldn't kill vehicles "just fine". They should be the best AV weapon on the field by far. Swarms are easy to use and plasma cannons are both AV/AI. Both fit on non heavy suits. If the forge gun is restricted to only heavy suits and becomes only AI, it should be far and away the scariest AV weapon, when in the hands of a capable user. That's all I'm saying.

Also, you want proto tanks? Hey, CCP,duplicate the current tanks, add slots, increase CPU/PG respectively, ramp up the price and BOOM! Proto tanks. Now all that's left is naming them.

No. The closer you get to even margin the less downsides a weapon has. Omni weapons are inherently superior to specialized weapons. Your proposal would only insure everyone would find projectiles the most efficient and thus most used weapons.

Wouldnt dps/ rof resolve that issue?