Sometimes I just stand in the merc quarters, laughing at myself.

if u getting killed by shotgunner then u doing worng, ur not suppost to let them get closer.

also who ask u to go alone 1v1 with assauilt, heavy suppost to stay in a group not soloing


so stop qqing about it.

does it matter if im a heavy or not? if u want to go solo then go assault dont blame on heavy that they not good at 1v1

In my experience, part of this issue is due to the overly expensive joke of a protsuit heavies currently have, but mainly this problem is the loving abuse of stacked damage mods. Glass damage modded assault suits have tremendous maneuverability advantage over the heavy, and the lack of maneuverability for the heavy means that a guy with 4 damage mods and a Duvolle can kill you in 1.3 seconds (100% accurate no headshots). If we are generous and say they take a full two seconds to kill you (long time I know ) you still had nowhere near enoguh time to close a distance or even get an effective shot off. BTW, the 1.3sec is roughly how long it takes a Duvolle to fire off 15 rounds, which is how many bullets it takes to shred 900 EHP (math courtesy of Laz Ulian Sol). This means not only can a glass assault **** your fat ass in 2 seconds flat, he can also **** 2-3 more of you without reloading.

Because of this, heavies really need support of their team, otherwise they really gotta hope they spawn close to enemies, or have time to call in a murder taxi and hope they don't run into a glass squad.

Read, IKR!...tough to read something that makes sense



^ He comes with logic and numbers. +1

Honestly, you're ignorant if you think heavies are fine. The only people that think the class is cool are people that abuse the broken dmg mods and the players that think Assault suit + AR is the only class that's suppose to be in the game.

well if u keep blame heavie are bad, why not move to some thing else like logi or assault

So much wasted time and SP.

Heavies are the most SP intensive class

I think the new spawn system has just messed with CQC classes.

I remember getting really high scores with my Shotgun class, around 10 kills per match. Before the change.

Now I'd be lucky to get 10, let alone go positive. Everytime I engage in what should be an easy kill, there is always a large group of players waiting around the corner.

The biggest problem with the Shield/Damage orientated Assault classes is that the mods used most by them (Complex Shield Extender and Complex Damage Mods) have not yet recieved a stacking penalty.

CCP has shown us with the recent patch how easily they can change a module (Jovians/Afterburners) and get away with it. Why haven't they touched Shield or Damage mods yet?

well if u keep blame heavie are bad, why not move to some thing else like logi or assault

they are fine, you just need to change the play style

i still had good kills with my shotgun =)

they are fine, you just need to change the play style

i still had good kills with my shotgun =)

well there nothing to do untill ccp choose to buff them or not!

and like i said heavy good with group

And this is the guy i meet today in match ok. And he had no fear just ran straight at me with a squad and with me hammering me at cq he still slaughtered me.lol but heavys are so fine now right.

And this is the guy i meet today in match ok. And he had no fear just ran straight at me with a squad and with me hammering me at cq he still slaughtered me.lol but heavys are so fine now right.

My score was better than yours.:P

What if HMG pushed back its targets a bit and threw them off their targets?

does it matter if im a heavy or not? if u want to go solo then go assault dont blame on heavy that they not good at 1v1

No, it would be like the old missiles.

i know a good heavy player is hard for me to kill 1v1 with my assault suit and ar anyone who knows those few heavy players know there not a joke but theres just too many noob heavy players

Heavy suits progress disproportionately to all other suits with each tier. 1v1 militia assault vs militia heavy in close quarters the heavy wins more times than not. 1v1 proto assault vs proto heavy it is flipped like you said. Advanced and proto suits need more slots/CPU/PG.

i know a good heavy player is hard for me to kill 1v1 with my assault suit and ar anyone who knows those few heavy players know there not a joke but theres just too many noob heavy players

Hehehe...You type like you suck...Just please stop, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

well english is not first language

I don't mean your grammar. I mean you are a shotgunner talking about heavy's. You suck.

Look. There are more B suits than legit proto players. But thats not the point. Heavies die alot more because the majority of everyone now has a decent suit and gun. If a heavy dies in CQ to an AR, they just suck and need to move on to another game...

Most people who play heavy go for body shots and attempt to mow everyone down from sheer bullet count. But now most people have high enough shields and/or armor which buys them enough time to sprint to cover. Not once have i seen anyone who isnt a heavy themselves just face off and sponge the HMG and win.

Heavies are not a joke, but those who complain about them being ineffective are however. When the game first started for open beta, heavies had it easy for too long and it seems people got too used to the no skill pray and spray game play it offered. CCP has left them alone up to now and I see them treating Assault and Logi suits the same way.

Heavies dont need a buff, they just need to drop the isk requirement to use a heavy.

lol...another idiot makes an appearance. Run along and play with your little AR.

Obviously you're not a heavy. I'm waiting for a known heavy to come in here and tell me that Heavy suits or class in general is fine. Till then, you scrubs thinking otherwise can keep running around with your AR / shotgun thinking that heavies are fine.

If you're running Proto Assault suit + Proto AR and you lose, you're a scrub! Sorry, but you should not lose to a B series heavy.

The VK1 is just a B series with 1 extra high slot, so yeah, Proto Assault >>>>>> B series Heavy.

HMG shoots 16~ rounds a second so multiply that with your total damage output. So you "OMG Duvolle boo hoo so much damage QQ" need to be quiet.

lol...another idiot makes an appearance. Run along and play with your little AR.

Obviously you're not a heavy. I'm waiting for a known heavy to come in here and tell me that Heavy suits or class in general is fine. Till then, you scrubs thinking otherwise can keep running around with your AR / shotgun thinking that heavies are fine.

If you're running Proto Assault suit + Proto AR and you lose, you're a scrub! Sorry, but you should not lose to a B series heavy.

The VK1 is just a B series with 1 extra high slot, so yeah, Proto Assault >>>>>> B series Heavy.

If you don't want to hear what anyone else has to say then change the title of this thread to, "LF other heavies to circle jerk with. Tears for lube inside".

L2P seriously. I have an alt heavy and i do just fine. And you obviously didn't pay much attention to my post, or you lack the mental capacity to comprehend it.

If you don't want to hear what anyone else has to say then change the title of this thread to, "LF other heavies to circle jerk with. Tears for lube inside".

What if HMG pushed back its targets a bit and threw them off their targets?

No, it would be like the old missiles.

Sorry, but if you can't 1v1 a Heavy with your Proto AR + Proto Suit with dmg mods, you're not that good. No offense.

Even good heavies, know what I'm saying is the truth, and if these "good heavy players" think that their class is fine as is, then their egos doing the talking.

I think there's a problem when half my drum is gone, at least half of those 220 rounds hit, and I haven't got an assault guy's shield half way down. It's constant assault from a machine gun, because once HMG op is level 5, heat buildup doesn't matter. Is each round coming out of the barrel really that weak?

lolHeavyAlt... I can say I have Tank alt, Logi Alt, Scout alt, Dropship alt... but I'll be lying through my ass too.

How about playing a corp match with the Heavy class. L2P? Good one.

My lolKD is 8.6, and I play every corp match I'm available for. I don't pubstomp, and talk trash like some people do all day. My lolstats take serious hits when I play against good teams. So this whole leet crap about L2P, you can take somewhere else.

People that have this outlook that Heavies are tanks, are ******* idiots! It shows just how much they actually play the class, and the fact that you think heavies are great, shows you know NOTHING about the class.

I hear what everyone has to say, but until you're a heavy your opinion, or "advice" on the matter means next to nothing.

All you do is troll heavy threads cuz I think somewhere down the line an HMG molested you. You still butthurt?

Says the heavy who has never even killed me once. Of course you and other heavies will cry and say it needs a buff. I want to hear from people who have tested every class. Not people who use a crutch 24/7. You expect your HMG to pub stomp in corp battles. That is the real problem. Get good please.

Have fun circle jerking with other heavies tears.

Says the heavy who has never even killed me once. Nice 5/4 Of course you and other heavies will cry and say it needs a buff. I want to hear from people who have tested every class. Not people who use a crutch 24/7. You expect your HMG to pub stomp in corp battles. That is the real problem. Get good please.

Have fun circle jerking with other heavies tears.

The amount of butthurt just got raised a lot.

lol says the guy who killed me once when I wasn't even shooting him, also the guy who hides behind zergs. You're not impressive, sorry. I've seen better....far better.

My crutch? You know I was the generic assault player like 90% of people are playing this game? But my corp needed a heavy, so I grew a pair, and tried another class. I've actually played all the classes in the game over the last couple builds. You? You use the ULTIMATE crutch in this game...the Assault Rifle.

The most used weapon, because it's the easiest weapon and class to use.

How about you get good, and stop hiding behind people

Sorry, but if you can't 1v1 a Heavy with your Proto AR + Proto Suit with dmg mods, you're not that good. No offense.

Even good heavies, know what I'm saying is the truth, and if these "good heavy players" think that their class is fine as is, then their egos doing the talking.

As if the butthurt wasn't already over 9000 by post 1.

As if the butthurt wasn't already over 9000 by post 1.

I think I know what the problem is. You get mad when you die once you split from the group to lonewolf. Don't get at others because they know how to use blueberries as shields or know how to work as a squad.

im not saying the class in all is fine its like a vagabond vs a megathron hahahaha another eve thing

lol I was making a point, a very valid point, and since all you AR users replied with no real suggestions or any reason why heavies are gimped, the butthurt is all yours bud.

GG

This thread could've been useful to CCP.

Then the Assault noobs arrived and ruined it with their bias.

In the words of JC Denton.

"What a shame"

This thread could've been useful to CCP.

Then the Assault noobs arrived and ruined it with their bias.

In the words of JC Denton.

"What a shame"

Crimson moon is out to sabotage heavies. Luckily I switched over to assault, so I'm safe from his constant QQ

STD and adv heavy is balanced to help new players do well.

You can't expect to stomp in corp battles like you do in pubs. CCP made it this way on purpose. Get over it and stop crying.

Going 5/4 in a pub with an HMG I don't expect you to do well in corp battles anyways. So my get good still stands

I said this before.. but what the hell, i say it again ;

This is what happens when you spoil people with easy kills. Most heavies can't understand, that the Kill feast was only an illusion... now that other classes have catch up with them, the game is leveling up. So now they have to work a "bit "harder for their kills.

I said this before.. but what the hell, i say it again ;

This is what happens when you spoil people with easy kills. Most heavies can't understand, that the Kill feast was only an illusion... now that other classes have catch up with them, the game is leveling up. So now they have to work a "bit "harder for their kills.

truth.

Low level heavys need a bit of a nerf, adv and proto heavys need good buff.

#1 Armor plates and shield extenders should be a % of dropsuit base armor or shields.

How can a scout fit as much addon armor on his suit as a heavy can. Yet the slow down is % based its just assbackwards.

#2 heavy suits should gain minor health and minor base stat improvements going from mil to proto as should all suits. they should def be a little faster have slightly more stamina.

#3 they need a rework on slot capacity. No other combat suit cannot use equipment. Thus they should have lots of combat slots to work with.

mechanics for dropsuits should stack with armor plates added, this should also apply for shield extenders for its skill that is the same as mechanics for shields.

truth.

Low level heavys need a bit of a nerf, adv and proto heavys need good buff.

#1 Armor plates and shield extenders should be a % of dropsuit base armor or shields.

How can a scout fit as much addon armor on his suit as a heavy can. Yet the slow down is % based its just assbackwards.

#2 heavy suits should gain minor health and minor base stat improvements going from mil to proto as should all suits. they should def be a little faster have slightly more stamina.

#3 they need a rework on slot capacity. No other combat suit cannot use equipment. Thus they should have lots of combat slots to work with.

mechanics for dropsuits should stack with armor plates added, this should also apply for shield extenders for its skill that is the same as mechanics for shields.

I never new truth was a synonym for going full idiot.

@ panther alpha Thank you SO much for bring on that new breeze of idiocracy, this thread was getting a bit too reasonable for my liking anyway

Low level heavys need a bit of a nerf, adv and proto heavys need good buff.

#1 Armor plates and shield extenders should be a % of dropsuit base armor or shields.

How can a scout fit as much addon armor on his suit as a heavy can. Yet the slow down is % based its just assbackwards.

#2 heavy suits should gain minor health and minor base stat improvements going from mil to proto as should all suits. they should def be a little faster have slightly more stamina.

#3 they need a rework on slot capacity. No other combat suit cannot use equipment. Thus they should have lots of combat slots to work with.

mechanics for dropsuits should stack with armor plates added, this should also apply for shield extenders for its skill that is the same as mechanics for shields.

H'mm lets see(and this is just off the top of my head)

Assault suits get 7 slots and 2 equipment slots
Logistics gets 8 slots and 4-3 equipment
Scouts get 6 slots and 2-3 equipments slots... but lack the CPU to use them.
Heavies get 5 slots...

Clearly everything is perfectly balanced.

Low level heavys need a bit of a nerf, adv and proto heavys need good buff.

#1 Armor plates and shield extenders should be a % of dropsuit base armor or shields.

How can a scout fit as much addon armor on his suit as a heavy can. Yet the slow down is % based its just assbackwards.

#2 heavy suits should gain minor health and minor base stat improvements going from mil to proto as should all suits. they should def be a little faster have slightly more stamina.

#3 they need a rework on slot capacity. No other combat suit cannot use equipment. Thus they should have lots of combat slots to work with.

mechanics for dropsuits should stack with armor plates added, this should also apply for shield extenders for its skill that is the same as mechanics for shields.

You welcome

This was ignored so I'll re-post it.


C'mon Crimsonmoon, explain to us all how this is balanced.

u good sir speak logic
u need to take this off the general discussion section of the dust forums
i keep tellin lance the same thing only QQ and epeen strokin allowed in general discussion but he insists on sharing logic here


on a srs note tho +1

This was ignored so I'll re-post it.


C'mon Crimsonmoon, explain to us all how this is balanced.

/FACEPALM.

If the heavy needed more slots ccp would have gave them more slots it like that for a reason. If they give heavies 7 slots the stacked health mods would break the heavy suit. That is soooo obvious. Why am I explaining that to you?

Are you a professional idiot or just part time, either way I think you have what it takes to be the dumbest feedback giver on Dust 514

Made a thread in feedback

/FACEPALM.

If the heavy needed more slots ccp would have gave them more slots. its like that for a reason. If they give heavies 7 slots the stacked health mods would break the heavy suit. That is soooo obvious. Why am I explaining that to you?

Lance does terrible in corp battles and then cries about it on the forums. That's trolling.

Lance does terrible in corp battles and then cries about it on the forums. That's trolling.

Really ?

People complaining about don't getting as many kills as they use too ?

And you call me a professional idiot ?

This topic is dumb to start with... as you expecting intelligent feedback ?

Some times i wonder how old is the average Dust 514 player... i guessing 15.

I do great in corp battles and game play and I can see there are changes necessary to higher teir heavies for them to progress in their class and also general suit changes that should take place.

Your ideas/thread were solid. Lance started a qq buff thread which I felt deserved trolling. When std heavies were running pubs Lance insisted they were fine. Now that protos need a buff he is crying. He is a tool. That is all.

Lance insisted they were fine. Now that protos need a buff he is crying. He is a tool. That is all.

Yip...heavies are "fine" cuz people can 1v1 them easy now. As I said, when last did anyone see a "Heavies are OP" thread? Everyone knows now that heavies are weak, but hey, they can 1v1 them, so they "are fine".

You're not trolling anyone though, you're just flailing your arms around looking intentionally ********.

They were fine, it's called a grenade, heavies really don't like those. I can kill them pretty easly with a starter fit.

lo,l He does that. First he says stupid sh*t, then he calls it trolling in a pathetic attempt to save face.

Learn to adapt, like we had to do. Perhaps consider making your heavy suit primary AV (let's be honest here, this is what the heavy was designed for) and make your secondary function a support platform for infantry players.

Honestly. What is it that you proto heavies expect state wise?

lo,l He does that. First he says stupid sh*t, then he calls it trolling in a pathetic attempt to save face.

Honestly. What is it that you proto heavies expect state wise?

it's like watching the wacky inflatable flailing arm tube man, but in text form

They're not complaining about kills, you're just seeing that as the only reason this thread was made which is why I call an idiot, it's clearly been stated that the gear heavies are given isn't up up to par with everyone else's but you're apparently too dense to understand that.

Nobody cares about stats, it's just about having good enough suits to get the job done right

The Heavy class is actually fine. Just likes Tanks Heavy's have obvious advantages in the early stages of the game, but eventually infantry and AV catches up with them.

The Heavy class is actually fine. Just likes Tanks Heavy's have obvious advantages in the early stages of the game, but eventually infantry and AV catches up with them.

"The once warriors in DUST are nothing more now than a stale joke that heavies are faced with everyday....at least against decent / good players.

In corp matches heavies are almost useless, losing out to Proto Assault suits using Proto Assault guns or Shotgun. Doesn't even have to be a good shotgun tbh, a militia shotgun does fine these days."

That sounds to me like a complaint about don't getting easy kills anymore.

"The once warriors in DUST are nothing more now than a stale joke that heavies are faced with everyday....at least against decent / good players.

In corp matches heavies are almost useless, losing out to Proto Assault suits using Proto Assault guns or Shotgun. Doesn't even have to be a good shotgun tbh, a militia shotgun does fine these days."

That sounds to me like a complaint about don't getting easy kills anymore.

"The once warriors in DUST are nothing more now than a stale joke that heavies are faced with everyday....at least against decent / good players.

In corp matches heavies are almost useless, losing out to Proto Assault suits using Proto Assault guns or Shotgun. Doesn't even have to be a good shotgun tbh, a militia shotgun does fine these days."

That sounds to me like a complaint about don't getting easy kills anymore.

Easy kills? Where did I mention anything about getting easy kills? Actually, I didn't even mention getting kills. My point just shows it's better to use another Assault player instead of a Heavy.

Your troll attempts are boring me as well.

No not player stats. Suit stats like Slots, base health etc. I could say the best suit is an invincible one.

No not player stats. Suit stats like Slots, base health etc. I could say the best suit is an invincible one.

The once warriors in DUST ;

The once OP class in Dust - They were never Op, people were just running at them like lemmings

At least against decent / good players ;

I can't find any newberries to kill any more - You mean "people smarter than the average gerbil"? They're still around, but now they have better gear than heavies.

In corp matches heavies are almost useless, losing out to Proto Assault suits using Proto Assault guns or Shotgun. Doesn't even have to be a good shotgun tbh, a militia shotgun does fine these days ;

People is starting to kill me to easily, and i don't like it - No, it's because they have far better gear.

This was ignored so I'll re-post it.


C'mon Crimsonmoon, explain to us all how this is balanced.

Also when a class's only advantage is durability and it's dying easily how can you not see that as a problem?

When I say buff, I mean ANYTHING to improve the suit, or justify the cost of it compared to the B- Series.

B- Series = 40,560 ISK ( 2 high slots, 2 low slots, 0 equipment, CPU 216 )

Proto = 246,800 ISK ( 3 high slots, 2 low slots, 0 equipment, CPU 270 )

Difference = 206,240

What Proto suits gets for the 206k: 54 more CPU, 11 more PG, 1 high slot.

People say stuff like "Oh the Heavy is a walking tank so that justifies the cost"... funny thing about this statement is that the Type 2 has the same HP as Proto and that costs 13,320 ISK.

______________________________


Let's compare the Assault B- Series and Proto, and see what they get for their money.

B- series = 20,680 ISK ( 3 high slots, 2 low slots, 1 equipment, CPU 231)

Proto = 91,200 ISK ( 4 high slots, 3 low slots, 2 equipment, CPU 330)

Difference = 70,520 ISK

What Proto suits get for that 70k ISK: 99 more CPU, 20 more PG, 1 high slot, 1 low slot, 1 equipment slot.

/FACEPALM.

If the heavy needed more slots ccp would have gave them more slots. its like that for a reason. If they give heavies 7 slots the stacked health mods would break the heavy suit. That is soooo obvious. Why am I explaining that to you?

thx, hopefully CCP sees it. I'll bump it when needed.

i don't see proto assaults carrying forge guns..

i don't see proto assaults carrying forge guns..

well there nothing to do untill ccp choose to buff them or not!

... your point?

I think he's saying that heavies are totally unique compared to other classes, they can have more base armor than any other suit with quadruple stacked proto armor mods, and are the only class able to carry heavy weapons, therefore not underpowered. That was just my interpretation.

I think he's saying that heavies are totally unique compared to other classes, they can have more base armor than any other suit with quadruple stacked proto armor mods, and are the only class able to carry heavy weapons, therefore not underpowered. That was just my interpretation.

lol 8 pages.

quadruple stacked proto armor mods?

Are we playing the same game?

Carrying Heavy weapons = it doesn't matter how useless the Proto suit is then. Gotcha!

The once warriors in DUST are nothing more now than a stale joke that heavies are faced with everyday....at least against decent / good players.

In corp matches heavies are almost useless, losing out to Proto Assault suits using Proto Assault guns or Shotgun. Doesn't even have to be a good shotgun tbh, a militia shotgun does fine these days.

So being a CQC oriented class, can someone tell me how is it balanced when a Heavy loses to an Assault Proto player 1v1 CQC? I have killed a few Proto Assault guys in a straight 1v1, but tbh everytime I do I can't help but feel that guy was bad. It's a rare occasion that it happens, when it's suppose to be the other way around. Forget shotgunners. 2 shotted from 10-15 meters away is fine right?

So what I'm saying is, we're suppose to be kings of CQC, yet chances are we lose to every other class in the very situation we're suppose to be good at. So I'm asking, what is the heavy's purpose now?

Before you say "Oh you're a scrub! If you can't kill people in a CQC with your skill cannon you're a scrub!"... Well I suggest you go up against any AR player with half a brain using a shield tanked Proto suit, and see where that gets you. Or better yet, go up against an Proto Assault suit using a shotgun... even more luck to you there.

Again I ask, if we lose in CQC situations more times than not, what is the roll of a Heavy?

I don't care how good of a heavy you think you can be, real heavies out there know what I'm talking about.

When last you saw a "HEAVIES ARE OP!!! QQ" thread? lol. I can't even remember. Weeks now...a month?

Heavies are a joke, and will continue to be a joke unless CCP buff the class in some way.

Edit: 2-Ton Twenty-One made a thread in the feedback section, Heavies that stop by here, should give it a thumbs up, and comment.

what i hear: OMG HEAVIES HAVE TO ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME NOW THEY ARE SOOOO UNDER POWERED
miss the days when i could just walk in the open like a scrub and spray on helpless space marines and insta win

they are far from UP maybe you should try harder

Rage at me a little more...ever heard of don't shoot the messenger?

Quadruple stacked as in...a suit with four low slots that fills all four slots with armor mods, and proto as in...the armor mods that require level five of [Whatever skill you need to get armor mods]. So yea, playing the same game....

What I hear: Someone castrate me, I should't be allowed to breed.

Yes...but I meant that any suit with quadruple stacked proto mods still has less health than a heavy's base health....

I'm saying the heavy's armor is impossible to replicate. No matter how many armor mods you put on an assault, it will still have less health than the un-modified health of a heavy. Not sure how else I can describe that....and I get your point btw, I understand you are miffed by the price of your proto suit, you don't have to keep posting it at the end of your comments, but that wasn't my point.

One of the suggestions made is similar to a thread I posted a LONG time ago.

Each class, needs a passive skill/trait that goes up with suit level. (standard/advanced/proto)
This needs to be small enough to prevent suit from being OP, but enough to give just another slight bonus to make the cost increase worthwhile.

Just random examples I made up on the fly.

ie:
Scout's speed goes up by 5% from std to adv, and another 5% from adv to proto
Heavy's HP goes up by 10% from std to adv, and another 10% from adv to proto
Assault's scanning goes up by 5% from std to adv, and another 5% from adv to proto
Logi's hacking and CPU go up by 5% from std to adv, and another 5% from adv to proto

Them fatboy tears, delicious, looks like your all out of cake.

It's not our fault we're fat, all the sodium chloride in your tears makes us retain liquids.

Edit: gotta love when the biggest QQers on the forums start accusing others of QQing though..

Them fatboy tears, delicious, looks like your all out of cake.

A full list of your QQs https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=search&postedby=IRuby%20Heart

Could anyone mind to punch this guy and the "I like to say my name twice thanks to my ADD" in the face with a razorfist and rusty barbwire?
Or its just me?

EDIT: HAHAHAHHA nice one Doe, have a like.

*tsk* I was really hoping to see an actually list of all my QQ's, would of made for an interesting recap

*tsk* I was really hoping to see an actually list of all my QQ's, would of made for an interesting recap

*tsk* I was really hoping to see an actually list of all my QQ's, would of made for an interesting recap

Sure, the limpwristed **** who was asking around on the forums how to be a CEO is gonna trash talk me? Excuse me sunshine, that wont happen.


Pro tip, actual trolls never reveal when they are trolling, defeats the purpose, but what can you know, considering that you post with the IQ of a 12 year-old guido fratbro.

Sure, the limpwristed **** who was asking around on the forums how to be a CEO is gonna trash talk me? Excuse me sunshine, that wont happen.


Pro tip, actual trolls never reveal when they are trolling, defeats the purpose, but what can you know, considering that you post with the IQ of a 12 year-old guido fratbro.

lol stop clicking the post button.

Didn't understand this at all, how can a twelve-year old be in a frat?

Just in case you didn't know, a frat is "a college fraternity." So you were trying to make an insult on someone by saying that they are twelve years old but have graduated high-school and are in college? Nice insult.

Soon as you stop going full ******

Says the guy mashing his head on his keyboard trying to post a really bad troll.

I play a heavy using mostly first skill level suite and hope that CCP doesn't buff (much less nerf) at this time.

I want stacking penalties and see how that changes the DPS mechanics. Things would be radically different for protosuites and tanks if CCP ever does it.

After people play for a bit then reevaluate the play value and buff or nerf as needed.


Another weird issue that pertains to heavies is the strafing stuff. It's really unrealistic right now, but effective. Then again this is video game, too much realism could hurt game play. Hard science fiction can be a cold medium to deal with. Then again too little can be worse. Frankly strafing while not in aim should have the accuracy cut in half.

I think he's saying that heavies are totally unique compared to other classes, they can have more base armor than any other suit with quadruple stacked proto armor mods, and are the only class able to carry heavy weapons, therefore not underpowered. That was just my interpretation.

EDIT: nice edit, please link me to my QQ's if you would please

The Heavy itself is not the problem, it's the damn guns, why do they have so much range? Anyone who wants to BS me with "it's only effective from close quarters" can stfu right now. I got so many clips of me dying to a heavy half way across the map, Heavy's camping on roof's or bridges and killing people on the ground from the sky, wtf is that? "Just run away and take cover" I can't dodge 1000 bullets

Decrease the range and the Heavy will no longer be a topic of discussion.

H'mm, it seems I was mistaken. You don't QQ anywhere near what I thought you did, you're more of the "HMG takes no skill to use, I'm leet cause I use an AR" kind of guy... or gal, the name makes it hard to tell.

Anyway, It was hard to find, but since you wanted to see yourself QQ, here you go:


Guys, guys, leave Logi Bro alone! he was referring to assaults when he mentioned the 4 low slots!

Coming from the guy too butthurt to sit down I think not.

lmao, thank you. Seriously it brings good laughs to actually read some of the stuff you(I) have posted in the past. I was definitely angry when I posted that. Do I still think they need a range nerf? No, I believe the game has balanced itself out more now that I think the heavies actually need it.

this thread in a nutshell: 5 people crying together and drop-in logical comments.

grats on 10 pages.

Exactly where do I appear butthurt? I just pointed out a lot of QQ comes from ruby.

ruby, don, crimson, and lovenewlooy nope only 4

I got you mixed up Crimsondouche, his constant BS makes it hard to remember who said what... anyway, my apologies, no one should get mixed up with Crimson.

......Just shut up, seriously, do yourself a favor.

I was going to post something meaningful here until I read the last 5 pages. Lmao you guys are funny, No wonder CCP doesn't listen or give a sh!t about 99% of the things ya'll say.

another clown showing up to the party. Great.

The once warriors in DUST are nothing more now than a stale joke that heavies are faced with everyday....at least against decent / good players.

In corp matches heavies are almost useless, losing out to Proto Assault suits using Proto Assault guns or Shotgun. Doesn't even have to be a good shotgun tbh, a militia shotgun does fine these days.

So being a CQC oriented class, can someone tell me how is it balanced when a Heavy loses to an Assault Proto player 1v1 CQC? I have killed a few Proto Assault guys in a straight 1v1, but tbh everytime I do I can't help but feel that guy was bad. It's a rare occasion that it happens, when it's suppose to be the other way around. Forget shotgunners. 2 shotted from 10-15 meters away is fine right?

So what I'm saying is, we're suppose to be kings of CQC, yet chances are we lose to every other class in the very situation we're suppose to be good at. So I'm asking, what is the heavy's purpose now?

Before you say "Oh you're a scrub! If you can't kill people in a CQC with your skill cannon you're a scrub!"... Well I suggest you go up against any AR player with half a brain using a shield tanked Proto suit, and see where that gets you. Or better yet, go up against an Proto Assault suit using a shotgun... even more luck to you there.

Again I ask, if we lose in CQC situations more times than not, what is the roll of a Heavy?

I don't care how good of a heavy you think you can be, real heavies out there know what I'm talking about.

When last you saw a "HEAVIES ARE OP!!! QQ" thread? lol. I can't even remember. Weeks now...a month?

Heavies are a joke, and will continue to be a joke unless CCP buff the class in some way.

Edit: 2-Ton Twenty-One made a thread in the feedback section, Heavies that stop by here, should give it a thumbs up, and comment.

To the OP, I do think the heavy's need a protosuit buff. I've seen aurum protoscouts take on heavies without even breaking a sweat. Add more CPU and PG and an extra low slot and I think The Proto heavy will be pretty balanced compared to the other protosuits. If you over buff them, 3 months from now we will be hearing more QQ's about the proto heavy being OP compared to the rest of the suits.

Great the OP is also a dumbass, I'm trying to clear up your thread here of imbeciles and their useless posts and you try and call me out.

Good stuff lance, I'm sure your adding anything positive to the discussion with your last 5 posts of nonsense.

This was talked about way back when heavies were the masters of the battlefield and no one could take them out. I'm sorry that now you have to think about how you have to attack people now. Its no longer a matter of running out in the middle of a glob of reds and spitting out death from your HMG. We have heavies in our corp and they know that there are tactics. Quit complaining about how things are so hard for you. If you had paid attention in the beginning you would have known that the free ride was not going to last forever, now sleep in the bed you have made. Not trying to be an A**hole, but that's just the color of things...

I was going to post something meaningful here until I read the last 5 pages. Lmao you guys are funny, No wonder CCP doesn't listen or give a sh!t about 99% of the things ya'll say.