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Crimson Moon V
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:47:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:If you don't want to hear what anyone else has to say then change the title of this thread to, "LF other heavies to circle jerk with. Tears for lube inside". I hear what everyone has to say, but until you're a heavy your opinion, or "advice" on the matter means next to nothing. All you do is troll heavy threads cuz I think somewhere down the line an HMG molested you. You still butthurt? Says the heavy who has never even killed me once. Nice 5/4 Of course you and other heavies will cry and say it needs a buff. I want to hear from people who have tested every class. Not people who use a crutch 24/7. You expect your HMG to pub stomp in corp battles. That is the real problem. Get good please.
Have fun circle jerking with other heavies tears. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
481
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:52:00 -
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The amount of butthurt just got raised a lot. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
824
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:52:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:If you don't want to hear what anyone else has to say then change the title of this thread to, "LF other heavies to circle jerk with. Tears for lube inside". I hear what everyone has to say, but until you're a heavy your opinion, or "advice" on the matter means next to nothing. All you do is troll heavy threads cuz I think somewhere down the line an HMG molested you. You still butthurt? Says the heavy who has never even killed me once. Of course you and other heavies will cry and say it needs a buff. I want to hear from people who have tested every class. Not people who use a crutch 24/7. You expect your HMG to pub stomp in corp battles. That is the real problem. Get good please. Have fun circle jerking with other heavies tears.
lol says the guy who killed me once when I wasn't even shooting him, also the guy who hides behind zergs. You're not impressive, sorry. I've seen better....far better.
My crutch? You know I was the generic assault player like 90% of people are playing this game? But my corp needed a heavy, so I grew a pair, and tried another class. I've actually played all the classes in the game over the last couple builds. You? You use the ULTIMATE crutch in this game...the Assault Rifle.
The most used weapon, because it's the easiest weapon and class to use.
How about you get good, and stop hiding behind people |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
460
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:54:00 -
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"heavies are fine", yeah, from STD to Proto they gain a whole 2 slots, 1 high and 1 low, and somehow that's okay?
H'mm lets see(and this is just off the top of my head)
Assault suits get 7 slots and 2 equipment slots Logistics gets 8 slots and 4-3 equipment Scouts get 6 slots and 2-3 equipments slots... but lack the CPU to use them. Heavies get 5 slots...
Clearly everything is perfectly balanced. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
331
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:54:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:If you don't want to hear what anyone else has to say then change the title of this thread to, "LF other heavies to circle jerk with. Tears for lube inside". I hear what everyone has to say, but until you're a heavy your opinion, or "advice" on the matter means next to nothing. All you do is troll heavy threads cuz I think somewhere down the line an HMG molested you. You still butthurt? Says the heavy who has never even killed me once. Nice 5/4 Of course you and other heavies will cry and say it needs a buff. I want to hear from people who have tested every class. Not people who use a crutch 24/7. You expect your HMG to pub stomp in corp battles. That is the real problem. Get good please. Have fun circle jerking with other heavies tears. HMGs should stomp close range against ARs. However once that AR is paired with the proto shield assault, the assault player comes out on top. |
Crimson Moon V
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:54:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:The amount of butthurt just got raised a lot. As if the butthurt wasn't already over 9000 by post 1. |
Don Von Hulio
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:57:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:If you don't want to hear what anyone else has to say then change the title of this thread to, "LF other heavies to circle jerk with. Tears for lube inside". I hear what everyone has to say, but until you're a heavy your opinion, or "advice" on the matter means next to nothing. All you do is troll heavy threads cuz I think somewhere down the line an HMG molested you. You still butthurt? Says the heavy who has never even killed me once. Of course you and other heavies will cry and say it needs a buff. I want to hear from people who have tested every class. Not people who use a crutch 24/7. You expect your HMG to pub stomp in corp battles. That is the real problem. Get good please. Have fun circle jerking with other heavies tears. lol says the guy who killed me once when I wasn't even shooting him, also the guy who hides behind zergs. You're not impressive, sorry. I've seen better....far better. My crutch? You know I was the generic assault player like 90% of people are playing this game? But my corp needed a heavy, so I grew a pair, and tried another class. I've actually played all the classes in the game over the last couple builds. You? You use the ULTIMATE crutch in this game...the Assault Rifle. The most used weapon, because it's the easiest weapon and class to use. How about you get good, and stop hiding behind people
I think I know what the problem is. You get mad when you die once you split from the group to lonewolf. Don't get at others because they know how to use blueberries as shields or know how to work as a squad. |
One Nip
The Alpha and the Omega Zombie Ninja Space Bears
4
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:57:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:One Nip wrote:i know a good heavy player is hard for me to kill 1v1 with my assault suit and ar anyone who knows those few heavy players know there not a joke but theres just too many noob heavy players Sorry, but if you can't 1v1 a Heavy with your Proto AR + Proto Suit with dmg mods, you're not that good. No offense. Even good heavies, know what I'm saying is the truth, and if these "good heavy players" think that their class is fine as is, then their egos doing the talking. im not saying the class in all is fine its like a vagabond vs a megathron hahahaha another eve thing |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
824
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:58:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:The amount of butthurt just got raised a lot. As if the butthurt wasn't already over 9000 by post 1.
lol I was making a point, a very valid point, and since all you AR users replied with no real suggestions or any reason why heavies are gimped, the butthurt is all yours bud.
GG |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
481
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:00:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:The amount of butthurt just got raised a lot. As if the butthurt wasn't already over 9000 by post 1. You're bringing too much butthurt in this thread! If you keep at this rate the whole forum will be destroyed, take it to space where no one can hear you cry |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
460
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:01:00 -
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The real problem is that heavies and all other suits had their HP flattened at higher tiers, when the only real advantage to using a higher tier heavy in the first place was the HP gain. Now that's gone and well... 1 more complex shield extender doesn't help if you can't strafe. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
827
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:02:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:If you don't want to hear what anyone else has to say then change the title of this thread to, "LF other heavies to circle jerk with. Tears for lube inside". I hear what everyone has to say, but until you're a heavy your opinion, or "advice" on the matter means next to nothing. All you do is troll heavy threads cuz I think somewhere down the line an HMG molested you. You still butthurt? Says the heavy who has never even killed me once. Of course you and other heavies will cry and say it needs a buff. I want to hear from people who have tested every class. Not people who use a crutch 24/7. You expect your HMG to pub stomp in corp battles. That is the real problem. Get good please. Have fun circle jerking with other heavies tears. lol says the guy who killed me once when I wasn't even shooting him, also the guy who hides behind zergs. You're not impressive, sorry. I've seen better....far better. My crutch? You know I was the generic assault player like 90% of people are playing this game? But my corp needed a heavy, so I grew a pair, and tried another class. I've actually played all the classes in the game over the last couple builds. You? You use the ULTIMATE crutch in this game...the Assault Rifle. The most used weapon, because it's the easiest weapon and class to use. How about you get good, and stop hiding behind people I think I know what the problem is. You get mad when you die once you split from the group to lonewolf. Don't get at others because they know how to use blueberries as shields or know how to work as a squad.
Not really. If I die when I'm caught in the open, then fine, that's my fault. I'm not an idiot like some people. I accept my weakness, and my strength.
I know why all you Assault Rifle / suit players mad though... you STILL can't 1v1 a heavy...that just means you're bad. Sorry, but if you still cannot 1v1 a heavy with yout proto gear, maybe you're the one that needs to L2P. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
481
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:02:00 -
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One Nip wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:One Nip wrote:i know a good heavy player is hard for me to kill 1v1 with my assault suit and ar anyone who knows those few heavy players know there not a joke but theres just too many noob heavy players Sorry, but if you can't 1v1 a Heavy with your Proto AR + Proto Suit with dmg mods, you're not that good. No offense. Even good heavies, know what I'm saying is the truth, and if these "good heavy players" think that their class is fine as is, then their egos doing the talking. im not saying the class in all is fine its like a vagabond vs a megathron hahahaha another eve thing More like vagabond vs lolglfar |
Captain-Awesome
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:03:00 -
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I semi agree with the op but only for when facing above advanced suits.
assault riffles get 10% damage boost to shields, so if you are a shield tank (b series) you've got to go against the base damage (duvolle) + damage mods without diminishing returns + 10% damage to shields.
Proto heavies get 3 slots which can make a big difference
Admittedly while not using heavy complex damage mods on a B series, I've played against some really good proto players and I gotta say, I didn't get a chance to remove the first half of the 2 layers of bullets in my hmg. there was no straffing, no jumping, they simply out damaged me.
I would like to see an isk reduction to heavies first before I can say, and run the vk.1 suit of course.
but a proto ar proto assault with complex damage mods shouldn't out damage a proto hmg proto heavy with complex damage mods. That just doesn't make sense, higher hp, higher damage, higher isk cost, higher sp cost, dies first - that's just stupid. |
Crimson Moon V
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:03:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:The amount of butthurt just got raised a lot. As if the butthurt wasn't already over 9000 by post 1. lol I was making a point, a very valid point, and since all you AR users replied with no real suggestions or any reason why heavies are gimped, the butthurt is all yours bud. GG STD and adv heavy is balanced to help new players do well.
You can't expect to stomp in corp battles like you do in pubs. CCP made it this way on purpose. Get over it and stop crying.
Going 5/4 in a pub with an HMG I don't expect you to do well in corp battles anyways. So my get good still stands |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
79
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:04:00 -
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This thread could've been useful to CCP.
Then the Assault noobs arrived and ruined it with their bias.
In the words of JC Denton.
"What a shame" |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
57
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:06:00 -
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lance is right, since advancing to my shield tank proto suit with ~530+ shields, I have little issue beating a heavy in close quarters fights when I'm not caught from behind. If you know how to strafe even halfway decent, you should have no issue dropping a heavy while wearing a proto assault suit. allotek burst lays waste to any heavy in my range. I especially enjoy running into type II and B-series heavies, one flux nade and I can melee them to death. and if i'm running fused nades? no chance. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
57
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:06:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:This thread could've been useful to CCP.
Then the Assault noobs arrived and ruined it with their bias.
In the words of JC Denton.
"What a shame" If only I could be so grossly incandescent.... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
460
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:07:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:This thread could've been useful to CCP.
Then the Assault noobs arrived and ruined it with their bias.
In the words of JC Denton.
"What a shame" Crimson moon is out to sabotage heavies. Luckily I switched over to assault, so I'm safe from his constant QQ |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
128
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:10:00 -
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I said this before.. but what the hell, i say it again ;
This is what happens when you spoil people with easy kills. Most heavies can't understand, that the Kill feast was only an illusion... now that other classes have catch up with them, the game is leveling up. So now they have to work a "bit "harder for their kills. |
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Crimson Moon V
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:11:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:This thread could've been useful to CCP.
Then the Assault noobs arrived and ruined it with their bias.
In the words of JC Denton.
"What a shame" Crimson moon is out to sabotage heavies. Luckily I switched over to assault, so I'm safe from his constant QQ Wel at least I converted one scrub. That made my day. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
829
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:13:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:The amount of butthurt just got raised a lot. As if the butthurt wasn't already over 9000 by post 1. lol I was making a point, a very valid point, and since all you AR users replied with no real suggestions or any reason why heavies are gimped, the butthurt is all yours bud. GG STD and adv heavy is balanced to help new players do well. You can't expect to stomp in corp battles like you do in pubs. CCP made it this way on purpose. Get over it and stop crying. Going 5/4 in a pub with an HMG I don't expect you to do well in corp battles anyways. So my get good still stands
Who is talking about PUBS???!!!
From the get go I was talking about corp matches against good players.
Proto Assault >>>>> Proto Heavy
Even your corpmate sees what I'm saying, but your ignorance blinds you.
5/4 in a pub game??!!! OOOH NOOOOOO!!!! God I'm a bad player!!! You killed me once when I wasn't looking at you, and that's you claim to fame? loooool...you're a scrub that follows zergs across the map!
Wanna compare Pub stats? Your KD is 3.69...mine is 8.59...
So yeah, being a scrubby player like I am, I still pubstom better than you.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
460
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:14:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:I said this before.. but what the hell, i say it again ; This is what happens when you spoil people with easy kills. Most heavies can't understand, that the Kill feast was only an illusion... now that other classes have catch up with them, the game is leveling up. So now they have to work a "bit "harder for their kills. Catch up my kitten, it's like the tortoise and the hare, but someone broke the bunny's legs and then ran his kitten over. |
Crimson Moon V
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:15:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:I said this before.. but what the hell, i say it again ; This is what happens when you spoil people with easy kills. Most heavies can't understand, that the Kill feast was only an illusion... now that other classes have catch up with them, the game is leveling up. So now they have to work a "bit "harder for their kills. truth. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
284
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:15:00 -
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Low level heavys need a bit of a nerf, adv and proto heavys need good buff.
#1 Armor plates and shield extenders should be a % of dropsuit base armor or shields.
How can a scout fit as much addon armor on his suit as a heavy can. Yet the slow down is % based its just assbackwards.
#2 heavy suits should gain minor health and minor base stat improvements going from mil to proto as should all suits. they should def be a little faster have slightly more stamina.
#3 they need a rework on slot capacity. No other combat suit cannot use equipment. Thus they should have lots of combat slots to work with.
mechanics for dropsuits should stack with armor plates added, this should also apply for shield extenders for its skill that is the same as mechanics for shields. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
62
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:19:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:I said this before.. but what the hell, i say it again ; This is what happens when you spoil people with easy kills. Most heavies can't understand, that the Kill feast was only an illusion... now that other classes have catch up with them, the game is leveling up. So now they have to work a "bit "harder for their kills. truth. If you're too blind to see the disparity between type I heavies and VK0 heavies compared to type II assault and VK 1 assault, you're either completely ******** and lack any form of critical thinking ability, or you're just a ****** troll.
either way, **** off |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
482
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:20:00 -
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@ panther alpha Thank you SO much for bring on that new breeze of idiocracy, this thread was getting a bit too reasonable for my liking anyway |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
834
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:21:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Low level heavys need a bit of a nerf, adv and proto heavys need good buff.
#1 Armor plates and shield extenders should be a % of dropsuit base armor or shields.
How can a scout fit as much addon armor on his suit as a heavy can. Yet the slow down is % based its just assbackwards.
#2 heavy suits should gain minor health and minor base stat improvements going from mil to proto as should all suits. they should def be a little faster have slightly more stamina.
#3 they need a rework on slot capacity. No other combat suit cannot use equipment. Thus they should have lots of combat slots to work with.
mechanics for dropsuits should stack with armor plates added, this should also apply for shield extenders for its skill that is the same as mechanics for shields.
OMG logic in here...
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
482
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:21:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:I said this before.. but what the hell, i say it again ; This is what happens when you spoil people with easy kills. Most heavies can't understand, that the Kill feast was only an illusion... now that other classes have catch up with them, the game is leveling up. So now they have to work a "bit "harder for their kills. truth. I never new truth was a synonym for going full idiot. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
62
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:22:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Low level heavys need a bit of a nerf, adv and proto heavys need good buff.
#1 Armor plates and shield extenders should be a % of dropsuit base armor or shields.
How can a scout fit as much addon armor on his suit as a heavy can. Yet the slow down is % based its just assbackwards.
#2 heavy suits should gain minor health and minor base stat improvements going from mil to proto as should all suits. they should def be a little faster have slightly more stamina.
#3 they need a rework on slot capacity. No other combat suit cannot use equipment. Thus they should have lots of combat slots to work with.
mechanics for dropsuits should stack with armor plates added, this should also apply for shield extenders for its skill that is the same as mechanics for shields. oh look someone who knows what they're talking about
take some notes crimson, this is what your posts should look like.
+1 for you sir. |
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