The once warriors in DUST are nothing more now than a stale joke that heavies are faced with everyday....at least against decent / good players.

In corp matches heavies are almost useless, losing out to Proto Assault suits using Proto Assault guns or Shotgun. Doesn't even have to be a good shotgun tbh, a militia shotgun does fine these days.

So being a CQC oriented class, can someone tell me how is it balanced when a Heavy loses to an Assault Proto player 1v1 CQC? I have killed a few Proto Assault guys in a straight 1v1, but tbh everytime I do I can't help but feel that guy was bad. It's a rare occasion that it happens, when it's suppose to be the other way around. Forget shotgunners. 2 shotted from 10-15 meters away is fine right?

So what I'm saying is, we're suppose to be kings of CQC, yet chances are we lose to every other class in the very situation we're suppose to be good at. So I'm asking, what is the heavy's purpose now?

Before you say "Oh you're a scrub! If you can't kill people in a CQC with your skill cannon you're a scrub!"... Well I suggest you go up against any AR player with half a brain using a shield tanked Proto suit, and see where that gets you. Or better yet, go up against an Proto Assault suit using a shotgun... even more luck to you there.

Again I ask, if we lose in CQC situations more times than not, what is the roll of a Heavy?

I don't care how good of a heavy you think you can be, real heavies out there know what I'm talking about.

When last you saw a "HEAVIES ARE OP!!! QQ" thread? lol. I can't even remember. Weeks now...a month?

Heavies are a joke, and will continue to be a joke unless CCP buff the class in some way.

Edit: 2-Ton Twenty-One made a thread in the feedback section, Heavies that stop by here, should give it a thumbs up, and comment.

I was going to post something meaningful here until I read the last 5 pages. Lmao you guys are funny, No wonder CCP doesn't listen or give a sh!t about 99% of the things ya'll say.

early game god late game dog.

suck it up trollers

their are heavies that still pull it off, this is where skill will takes over and it will seperate the posers from the good heavies >.>

Oh... I guess that's enough reason for our Proto suit to be useless then?

You do realize it's basically Adv. Heavy Suit vs Proto everything else right? No? Of course not. You're just another one that got molested by an HMG too many times.

honestly I'd love for my type 2 suit to be as good as other classes proto suits....it's cheaper.

Who's talking about Type 2? Can't you not read?

Heavies, a support platform.. how off base could you be? It would be reasonable to call it an Av unit, because it can use the forge gun but the best description of it's role is as a defense oriented assault suit.

according to U.S. Army regulations 320-5 (AR 320-5) "heavy weapons" are all "weapons such as mortars, howitzers, guns, heavy machineguns and recoilless rifles which are usually part of infantry equipment."

As with most support units in any army, the size of a weapons platoon is generally smaller than that of its light infantry equivalent. For example, a typical light infantry platoon consists of 30 to 40 men divided in three or four squads (or sections) of 9GÇô13 men, whereas a weapons platoon substitutes the squads with smaller groups for mortar teams, machine gun crews, anti-tank teams etc.

Some platoons also include the assault element of a company. A company's weapons platoon will carry portable support weapons by sections, but also include a fast-attack light-infantry specialist squad of soldiers trained for breaching, raiding, and close combat.


A heavy weapon platoon is generally used as a support group to a number of other platoons in the immediate command area/zone in question. A ratio of one heavy platoon to three basic infantry platoons is the accepted number, anything above or below this may result in a specialised "company" such as a rifle company, or a long-range support company. The addition of a HWP (heavy weapons platoon) can greatly increase the chances of victory in a combat zone, due to the unique specialist abilities the soldiers in that group can offer to the company.

In more modern times, the application of heavy weapon support groups has been on the up. The ability to provide covering fire, and the suppression tactics of the heavy platoon mean that it is better equipped to give cover, and forms a vital component to the overall success, supporting the bulk of the company as they advance. Unlike in previous years, with the advancement in troop transportation, re-locating heavy weaponry and large quantities of ammunition is less of a problem.

Heavies, a support platform.. how off base could you be? It would be reasonable to call it an Av unit, because it can use the forge gun but the best description of it's role is as a defense oriented assault suit.

according to U.S. Army regulations 320-5 (AR 320-5) "heavy weapons" are all "weapons such as mortars, howitzers, guns, heavy machineguns and recoilless rifles which are usually part of infantry equipment."

As with most support units in any army, the size of a weapons platoon is generally smaller than that of its light infantry equivalent. For example, a typical light infantry platoon consists of 30 to 40 men divided in three or four squads (or sections) of 9GÇô13 men, whereas a weapons platoon substitutes the squads with smaller groups for mortar teams, machine gun crews, anti-tank teams etc.

Some platoons also include the assault element of a company. A company's weapons platoon will carry portable support weapons by sections, but also include a fast-attack light-infantry specialist squad of soldiers trained for breaching, raiding, and close combat.


A heavy weapon platoon is generally used as a support group to a number of other platoons in the immediate command area/zone in question. A ratio of one heavy platoon to three basic infantry platoons is the accepted number, anything above or below this may result in a specialised "company" such as a rifle company, or a long-range support company. The addition of a HWP (heavy weapons platoon) can greatly increase the chances of victory in a combat zone, due to the unique specialist abilities the soldiers in that group can offer to the company.

In more modern times, the application of heavy weapon support groups has been on the up. The ability to provide covering fire, and the suppression tactics of the heavy platoon mean that it is better equipped to give cover, and forms a vital component to the overall success, supporting the bulk of the company as they advance. Unlike in previous years, with the advancement in troop transportation, re-locating heavy weaponry and large quantities of ammunition is less of a problem.

Hey, seems like you only know Rambo movies..... but heavy suits & weapons are always used in a Support role..and i doubt that it being in the future changes that...

And ....Really ...a Defense oriented Assault suit that's your best comeback ? It is either Defense or Assault, not both, and AV troops are by default in a Supporting role ....