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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:22:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:I said this before.. but what the hell, i say it again ; This is what happens when you spoil people with easy kills. Most heavies can't understand, that the Kill feast was only an illusion... now that other classes have catch up with them, the game is leveling up. So now they have to work a "bit "harder for their kills. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) truth. I never new truth was a synonym for going full idiot.
this made me lol irl |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:22:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:@ panther alpha Thank you SO much for bring on that new breeze of idiocracy, this thread was getting a bit too reasonable for my liking anyway ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
You welcome ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) |
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2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:22:00 -
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Hell i would be fine with the removal of grenades from the heavy if they added the changes i mentioned in post #85 |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:24:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Low level heavys need a bit of a nerf, adv and proto heavys need good buff.
#1 Armor plates and shield extenders should be a % of dropsuit base armor or shields.
How can a scout fit as much addon armor on his suit as a heavy can. Yet the slow down is % based its just assbackwards.
#2 heavy suits should gain minor health and minor base stat improvements going from mil to proto as should all suits. they should def be a little faster have slightly more stamina.
#3 they need a rework on slot capacity. No other combat suit cannot use equipment. Thus they should have lots of combat slots to work with.
mechanics for dropsuits should stack with armor plates added, this should also apply for shield extenders for its skill that is the same as mechanics for shields.
This is what they need, base a whole thread about this in the feedback.
+1 |
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Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:24:00 -
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This was ignored so I'll re-post it.
Sloth9230 wrote: H'mm lets see(and this is just off the top of my head)
Assault suits get 7 slots and 2 equipment slots Logistics gets 8 slots and 4-3 equipment Scouts get 6 slots and 2-3 equipments slots... but lack the CPU to use them. Heavies get 5 slots...
Clearly everything is perfectly balanced.
C'mon Crimsonmoon, explain to us all how this is balanced. |
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Tectonious Falcon
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:24:00 -
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In my opinion, higher tier heavies should have higher resistance values, if CCP won't increase the EHP of each suit as you go higher.
Heavies are one of the most nerfed suits in the game, it's time for us to be a threat again. |
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Mavado V Noriega
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:27:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Low level heavys need a bit of a nerf, adv and proto heavys need good buff.
#1 Armor plates and shield extenders should be a % of dropsuit base armor or shields.
How can a scout fit as much addon armor on his suit as a heavy can. Yet the slow down is % based its just assbackwards.
#2 heavy suits should gain minor health and minor base stat improvements going from mil to proto as should all suits. they should def be a little faster have slightly more stamina.
#3 they need a rework on slot capacity. No other combat suit cannot use equipment. Thus they should have lots of combat slots to work with.
mechanics for dropsuits should stack with armor plates added, this should also apply for shield extenders for its skill that is the same as mechanics for shields.
u good sir speak logic u need to take this off the general discussion section of the dust forums i keep tellin lance the same thing only QQ and epeen strokin allowed in general discussion ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png)
on a srs note tho +1 |
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Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:29:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:@ panther alpha Thank you SO much for bring on that new breeze of idiocracy, this thread was getting a bit too reasonable for my liking anyway ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) You welcome ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) Are you a professional idiot or just part time, either way I think you have what it takes to be the dumbest feedback giver on Dust 514![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
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2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:29:00 -
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I will make a thread in feedback i guess... :P |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:30:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:This was ignored so I'll re-post it. Sloth9230 wrote: H'mm lets see(and this is just off the top of my head)
Assault suits get 7 slots and 2 equipment slots Logistics gets 8 slots and 4-3 equipment Scouts get 6 slots and 2-3 equipments slots... but lack the CPU to use them. Heavies get 5 slots...
Clearly everything is perfectly balanced.
C'mon Crimsonmoon, explain to us all how this is balanced.
He's not. All he does is call people scrubs. No logic, no reason, no explanation. If he kills you in a pub game, you're a scrub by his logic.
So I repeat, he is not going to explain anything nor give a reason why in his view, heavies are fine. |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:32:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Low level heavys need a bit of a nerf, adv and proto heavys need good buff.
#1 Armor plates and shield extenders should be a % of dropsuit base armor or shields.
How can a scout fit as much addon armor on his suit as a heavy can. Yet the slow down is % based its just assbackwards.
#2 heavy suits should gain minor health and minor base stat improvements going from mil to proto as should all suits. they should def be a little faster have slightly more stamina.
#3 they need a rework on slot capacity. No other combat suit cannot use equipment. Thus they should have lots of combat slots to work with.
mechanics for dropsuits should stack with armor plates added, this should also apply for shield extenders for its skill that is the same as mechanics for shields. u good sir speak logic u need to take this off the general discussion section of the dust forums i keep tellin lance the same thing only QQ and epeen strokin allowed in general discussion but he insists on sharing logic here ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) on a srs note tho +1
I never learn! *facedesk
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Crimson Moon V
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:32:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:This was ignored so I'll re-post it. Sloth9230 wrote: H'mm lets see(and this is just off the top of my head)
Assault suits get 7 slots and 2 equipment slots Logistics gets 8 slots and 4-3 equipment Scouts get 6 slots and 2-3 equipments slots... but lack the CPU to use them. Heavies get 5 slots...
Clearly everything is perfectly balanced.
C'mon Crimsonmoon, explain to us all how this is balanced. /FACEPALM.
If the heavy needed more slots ccp would have gave them more slots. its like that for a reason. If they give heavies 7 slots the stacked health mods would break the heavy suit. That is soooo obvious. Why am I explaining that to you? |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:35:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:This was ignored so I'll re-post it. Sloth9230 wrote: H'mm lets see(and this is just off the top of my head)
Assault suits get 7 slots and 2 equipment slots Logistics gets 8 slots and 4-3 equipment Scouts get 6 slots and 2-3 equipments slots... but lack the CPU to use them. Heavies get 5 slots...
Clearly everything is perfectly balanced.
C'mon Crimsonmoon, explain to us all how this is balanced. /FACEPALM. If the heavy needed more slots ccp would have gave them more slots it like that for a reason. If they give heavies 7 slots the stacked health mods would break the heavy suit. That is soooo obvious. Why am I explaining that to you?
and this is the explanation he comes up with...HAHAHAHAHA
I'm done. Please, if you have no other reason, or explanation for your opinion, don't post. You're trolling at this point, and tbh, it's not even a great trolling effort. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:37:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:@ panther alpha Thank you SO much for bring on that new breeze of idiocracy, this thread was getting a bit too reasonable for my liking anyway ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) You welcome ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) Are you a professional idiot or just part time, either way I think you have what it takes to be the dumbest feedback giver on Dust 514 ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
Really ?
People complaining about don't getting as many kills as they use too ?
And you call me a professional idiot ?
This topic is dumb to start with... as you expecting intelligent feedback ?
Some times i wonder how old is the average Dust 514 player... i guessing 15. |
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2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:37:00 -
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Made a thread in feedback |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:38:00 -
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thx, hopefully CCP sees it. I'll bump it when needed. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:41:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:This was ignored so I'll re-post it. Sloth9230 wrote: H'mm lets see(and this is just off the top of my head)
Assault suits get 7 slots and 2 equipment slots Logistics gets 8 slots and 4-3 equipment Scouts get 6 slots and 2-3 equipments slots... but lack the CPU to use them. Heavies get 5 slots...
Clearly everything is perfectly balanced.
C'mon Crimsonmoon, explain to us all how this is balanced. /FACEPALM. If the heavy needed more slots ccp would have gave them more slots. its like that for a reason. If they give heavies 7 slots the stacked health mods would break the heavy suit. That is soooo obvious. Why am I explaining that to you? Actually since it's a beta CCP didn't know how many slots would be enough for a heavy. They don't know what's going to work every time, they even openly state that. That's why it's a beta and they can test things like this. The reason they're not changing it right now is because 1) it would probably require a larger patch and 2) you don't want to make any knee jerk reactions. Why am I explaining that to you?
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:41:00 -
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Lance does terrible in corp battles and then cries about it on the forums. That's trolling.
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:44:00 -
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Hey guys, brilliant idea! Lets remove the extra slots from assault suits, they don't need the extra shields.
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Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:45:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance does terrible in corp battles and then cries about it on the forums. That's trolling. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) Your mother trolled us all. |
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2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:46:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance does terrible in corp battles and then cries about it on the forums. That's trolling. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
I do great in corp battles and game play and I can see there are changes necessary to higher teir heavies for them to progress in their class. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:48:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:@ panther alpha Thank you SO much for bring on that new breeze of idiocracy, this thread was getting a bit too reasonable for my liking anyway ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) You welcome ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) Are you a professional idiot or just part time, either way I think you have what it takes to be the dumbest feedback giver on Dust 514 ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) Really ? People complaining about don't getting as many kills as they use too ? And you call me a professional idiot ? This topic is dumb to start with... as you expecting intelligent feedback ? Some times i wonder how old is the average Dust 514 player... i guessing 15. They're not complaining about kills, you're just seeing that as the only reason this thread was made which is why I call an idiot, it's clearly been stated that the gear heavies are given isn't up up to par with everyone else's but you're apparently too dense to understand that. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:50:00 -
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i have to say, Duvolle and LR in long range is a nightmare for heavies and don't get me wrong, i like being heavy as i am not as good as AR, normally i am better @ being heavy then being AR, i guess i have to get used to it, as they say, the long you go being heavy the better you get used to being in balance , speed and combat, i know it like slow motion but it worked on some ppl some ppl is used to their own things
ps, if heavies get extra buff , i be happy bunny :)
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Crimson Moon V
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:51:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance does terrible in corp battles and then cries about it on the forums. That's trolling. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) I do great in corp battles and game play and I can see there are changes necessary to higher teir heavies for them to progress in their class and also general suit changes that should take place. Your ideas/thread were solid. Lance started a qq buff thread which I felt deserved trolling. When std heavies were running pubs Lance insisted they were fine. Now that protos need a buff he is crying. He is a tool. That is all. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:53:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance does terrible in corp battles and then cries about it on the forums. That's trolling. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) I do great in corp battles and game play and I can see there are changes necessary to higher teir heavies for them to progress in their class and also general suit changes that should take place. Your ideas/thread were solid. Lance started a qq buff thread which I felt deserved trolling. When std heavies were running pubs Lance insisted they were fine. Now that protos need a buff he is crying. He is a tool. That is all. You're not trolling anyone though, you're just flailing your arms around looking intentionally ********. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:53:00 -
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I have noticed a signifiant decrease in the effectiveness of my heavy fittings since the down time where CCP made some "backend changes". The HMG seems weaker and my heavy suit drops really easy. It may be the new AUR proto suits that were released at that time or just that the player base has moved up in tech. But I honestly do just as well, if not better, wearing my free assualt skinweaves as I do with a 80,000 ISK heavy fitting. Something changed. It makes me glad I am not solely invested in one suit yet but have been multi classing from the begining.
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Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:54:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance insisted they were fine. Now that protos need a buff he is crying. He is a tool. That is all. They were fine, it's called a grenade, heavies really don't like those. I can kill them pretty easly with a starter fit. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:55:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:new hulk wrote:LoveNewlooy wrote:and like i said heavy good with group And this is the guy i meet today in match ok. And he had no fear just ran straight at me with a squad and with me hammering me at cq he still slaughtered me.lol but heavys are so fine now right. Yip...heavies are "fine" cuz people can 1v1 them easy now. As I said, when last did anyone see a "Heavies are OP" thread? Everyone knows now that heavies are weak, but hey, they can 1v1 them, so they "are fine".
So when you guys could dominate the entire battlefield single handedly, and said "the heavy is fine" and "the HMG is fine", was that just you pretending your OP character was not... OP? Or do you honestly believe your heavy suit should be > all?
I've played with several heavy's in my corp recently, and they do just fine. You just need to get over the fact that you can't dominate the entire game with ease anymore, and learn how play your role correctly. Heavies are more of a support role, not an endgame solution.
A heavy paired with an assault player is the perfect symbiotic relationship (well, a heavy with a logi that has good AR gungame is even better... but still). You can't expect old techniques to work like they used to, and you need to adapt to the situation (kinda like what you heavies told everybody else to do when you could dominate with ease).
Learn to adapt, like we had to do. Perhaps consider making your heavy suit primary AV (let's be honest here, this is what the heavy was designed for) and make your secondary function a support platform for infantry players. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:57:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: You're not trolling anyone though, you're just flailing your arms around looking intentionally ********.
lo,l He does that. First he says stupid sh*t, then he calls it trolling in a pathetic attempt to save face. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:58:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Lance insisted they were fine. Now that protos need a buff he is crying. He is a tool. That is all. They were fine, it's called a grenade, heavies really don't like those. I can kill them pretty easly with a starter fit. That's why people agree they need a nerf and proto needs a buff.![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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