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Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
275
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:50:00 -
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What if HMG pushed back its targets a bit and threw them off their targets? |
LoveNewlooy
WarRavens
10
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:51:00 -
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new hulk wrote:My score was better than yours.:P Lol !!! nice nice let have some macth more in the future and say hi to kirk for me =P |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
520
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:52:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:What if HMG pushed back its targets a bit and threw them off their targets? No, it would be like the old missiles. |
One Nip
The Alpha and the Omega Zombie Ninja Space Bears
4
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:55:00 -
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i know a good heavy player is hard for me to kill 1v1 with my assault suit and ar anyone who knows those few heavy players know there not a joke but theres just too many noob heavy players |
John Xulu
The Tritan Industries
10
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:57:00 -
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LoveNewlooy wrote:does it matter if im a heavy or not? if u want to go solo then go assault dont blame on heavy that they not good at 1v1
Hehehe...You type like you suck...Just please stop, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
275
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:57:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:What if HMG pushed back its targets a bit and threw them off their targets? No, it would be like the old missiles.
I was thinking minor. So that if you were going 1v1 against then it'd be very difficult to headshot. |
LoveNewlooy
WarRavens
10
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:59:00 -
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One Nip wrote:i know a good heavy player is hard for me to kill 1v1 with my assault suit and ar anyone who knows those few heavy players know there not a joke but theres just too many noob heavy players +1 ^ |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2447
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:59:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Heavy suits progress disproportionately to all other suits with each tier. 1v1 militia assault vs militia heavy in close quarters the heavy wins more times than not. 1v1 proto assault vs proto heavy it is flipped like you said. Advanced and proto suits need more slots/CPU/PG.
THAT. plus vk.1 needs to come down in price |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
816
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:59:00 -
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One Nip wrote:i know a good heavy player is hard for me to kill 1v1 with my assault suit and ar anyone who knows those few heavy players know there not a joke but theres just too many noob heavy players
Sorry, but if you can't 1v1 a Heavy with your Proto AR + Proto Suit with dmg mods, you're not that good. No offense.
Even good heavies, know what I'm saying is the truth, and if these "good heavy players" think that their class is fine as is, then their egos doing the talking. |
LoveNewlooy
WarRavens
10
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:01:00 -
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John Xulu wrote:LoveNewlooy wrote:does it matter if im a heavy or not? if u want to go solo then go assault dont blame on heavy that they not good at 1v1 Hehehe...You type like you suck...Just please stop, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
well english is not first language |
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John Xulu
The Tritan Industries
10
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:09:00 -
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LoveNewlooy wrote:John Xulu wrote:LoveNewlooy wrote:does it matter if im a heavy or not? if u want to go solo then go assault dont blame on heavy that they not good at 1v1 Hehehe...You type like you suck...Just please stop, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. well english is not first language
I don't mean your grammar. I mean you are a shotgunner talking about heavy's. You suck.
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LoveNewlooy
WarRavens
10
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:10:00 -
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John Xulu wrote:LoveNewlooy wrote:John Xulu wrote:LoveNewlooy wrote:does it matter if im a heavy or not? if u want to go solo then go assault dont blame on heavy that they not good at 1v1 Hehehe...You type like you suck...Just please stop, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. well english is not first language I don't mean your grammar. I mean you are a shotgunner talking about heavy's. You suck. lol w/e |
Don Von Hulio
UnReaL.
130
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:11:00 -
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Look. There are more B suits than legit proto players. But thats not the point. Heavies die alot more because the majority of everyone now has a decent suit and gun. If a heavy dies in CQ to an AR, they just suck and need to move on to another game...
Most people who play heavy go for body shots and attempt to mow everyone down from sheer bullet count. But now most people have high enough shields and/or armor which buys them enough time to sprint to cover. Not once have i seen anyone who isnt a heavy themselves just face off and sponge the HMG and win.
Heavies are not a joke, but those who complain about them being ineffective are however. When the game first started for open beta, heavies had it easy for too long and it seems people got too used to the no skill pray and spray game play it offered. CCP has left them alone up to now and I see them treating Assault and Logi suits the same way.
Heavies dont need a buff, they just need to drop the isk requirement to use a heavy. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
476
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:18:00 -
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The number of idiots in this thread just got too damn high |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
818
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:18:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:Look. There are more B suits than legit proto players. But thats not the point. Heavies die alot more because the majority of everyone now has a decent suit and gun. If a heavy dies in CQ to an AR, they just suck and need to move on to another game...
Most people who play heavy go for body shots and attempt to mow everyone down from sheer bullet count. But now most people have high enough shields and/or armor which buys them enough time to sprint to cover. Not once have i seen anyone who isnt a heavy themselves just face off and sponge the HMG and win.
Heavies are not a joke, but those who complain about them being ineffective are however. When the game first started for open beta, heavies had it easy for too long and it seems people got too used to the no skill pray and spray game play it offered. CCP has left them alone up to now and I see them treating Assault and Logi suits the same way.
Heavies dont need a buff, they just need to drop the isk requirement to use a heavy.
lol...another idiot makes an appearance. Run along and play with your little AR.
Obviously you're not a heavy. I'm waiting for a known heavy to come in here and tell me that Heavy suits or class in general is fine. Till then, you scrubs thinking otherwise can keep running around with your AR / shotgun thinking that heavies are fine.
If you're running Proto Assault suit + Proto AR and you lose, you're a scrub! Sorry, but you should not lose to a B series heavy.
The VK1 is just a B series with 1 extra high slot, so yeah, Proto Assault >>>>>> B series Heavy. |
Don Von Hulio
UnReaL.
130
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:24:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Don Von Hulio wrote:Look. There are more B suits than legit proto players. But thats not the point. Heavies die alot more because the majority of everyone now has a decent suit and gun. If a heavy dies in CQ to an AR, they just suck and need to move on to another game...
Most people who play heavy go for body shots and attempt to mow everyone down from sheer bullet count. But now most people have high enough shields and/or armor which buys them enough time to sprint to cover. Not once have i seen anyone who isnt a heavy themselves just face off and sponge the HMG and win.
Heavies are not a joke, but those who complain about them being ineffective are however. When the game first started for open beta, heavies had it easy for too long and it seems people got too used to the no skill pray and spray game play it offered. CCP has left them alone up to now and I see them treating Assault and Logi suits the same way.
Heavies dont need a buff, they just need to drop the isk requirement to use a heavy. lol...another idiot makes an appearance. Run along and play with your little AR. Obviously you're not a heavy. I'm waiting for a known heavy to come in here and tell me that Heavy suits or class in general is fine. Till then, you scrubs thinking otherwise can keep running around with your AR / shotgun thinking that heavies are fine. If you're running Proto Assault suit + Proto AR and you lose, you're a scrub! Sorry, but you should not lose to a B series heavy. The VK1 is just a B series with 1 extra high slot, so yeah, Proto Assault >>>>>> B series Heavy.
L2P seriously. I have an alt heavy and i do just fine. And you obviously didn't pay much attention to my post, or you lack the mental capacity to comprehend it. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
479
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:24:00 -
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For reference sake, I'm only not a heavy because I'm waiting for a Gallente heavy suit. Every other build I've had Sp in heavy suits |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
522
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:24:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:HMG shoots 16~ rounds a second so multiply that with your total damage output. So you "OMG Duvolle boo hoo so much damage QQ" need to be quiet. HMGs do not start off with pinpoint accuracy, and they never get pinpoint. Most bullets will miss. |
immortal ironhide
SyNergy Gaming
83
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:25:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Don Von Hulio wrote:Look. There are more B suits than legit proto players. But thats not the point. Heavies die alot more because the majority of everyone now has a decent suit and gun. If a heavy dies in CQ to an AR, they just suck and need to move on to another game...
Most people who play heavy go for body shots and attempt to mow everyone down from sheer bullet count. But now most people have high enough shields and/or armor which buys them enough time to sprint to cover. Not once have i seen anyone who isnt a heavy themselves just face off and sponge the HMG and win.
Heavies are not a joke, but those who complain about them being ineffective are however. When the game first started for open beta, heavies had it easy for too long and it seems people got too used to the no skill pray and spray game play it offered. CCP has left them alone up to now and I see them treating Assault and Logi suits the same way.
Heavies dont need a buff, they just need to drop the isk requirement to use a heavy. lol...another idiot makes an appearance. Run along and play with your little AR. Obviously you're not a heavy. I'm waiting for a known heavy to come in here and tell me that Heavy suits or class in general is fine. Till then, you scrubs thinking otherwise can keep running around with your AR / shotgun thinking that heavies are fine. If you're running Proto Assault suit + Proto AR and you lose, you're a scrub! Sorry, but you should not lose to a B series heavy. The VK1 is just a B series with 1 extra high slot, so yeah, Proto Assault >>>>>> B series Heavy.
heavies are fine
but yea anything over type-2 heavy is worthless against equal level suit of any other class. Heavies need a serious adjusting for the adv/proto, mostly proto
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noob 45
Syndicate of Gods
14
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:26:00 -
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The people I know who run heavy + HMG only complain about the cost/effectivness of their proto suit. As far as the class goes as a whole they have no problem with it and have no problem ending the game on the top with a 2-3 K:D. Really the only time they die is when they are 1v3 or 4, if they get pelted by tiered locus, or if they get run over.
Are you complaining about the Heavy Forge set up though? Because you are right you will get mopped up in CQC because your shot has to be a direct hit to deal any real damage.
Or are we talking about a Heavy with an AR against the same lvl assault suit with same AR and the heavy losing? This argument would make some sense then.
So what is the real deal here? In one thread you have an Imperfect crying that the AR sucks and is UP and cant do squat, and yet in this thread everyone is saying that Heavies are UP and get mopped up by the AR......... Why have I seen some of these top Corps with players that run Heavy AR then? Is the logic UP + UP = OP.
Are heavy suits the CQC king, or are they actually the long distance kings? I wreck people with heavy snipe and forge from a distance. Seen people do nasty things with heavy lasers and heavy mass drivers. |
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Crimson Moon V
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
232
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:26:00 -
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If you don't want to hear what anyone else has to say then change the title of this thread to, "LF other heavies to circle jerk with. Tears for lube inside". |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:26:00 -
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Tank destroyers with forge guns work (but of course, they have a shorter range than sniper rifles). |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
480
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:29:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:If you don't want to hear what anyone else has to say then change the title of this thread to, "LF other heavies to circle jerk with. Tears for lube inside". There has to be someone with a reasonable argument on why upper tier heavys are balanced first. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
820
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:30:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Don Von Hulio wrote:Look. There are more B suits than legit proto players. But thats not the point. Heavies die alot more because the majority of everyone now has a decent suit and gun. If a heavy dies in CQ to an AR, they just suck and need to move on to another game...
Most people who play heavy go for body shots and attempt to mow everyone down from sheer bullet count. But now most people have high enough shields and/or armor which buys them enough time to sprint to cover. Not once have i seen anyone who isnt a heavy themselves just face off and sponge the HMG and win.
Heavies are not a joke, but those who complain about them being ineffective are however. When the game first started for open beta, heavies had it easy for too long and it seems people got too used to the no skill pray and spray game play it offered. CCP has left them alone up to now and I see them treating Assault and Logi suits the same way.
Heavies dont need a buff, they just need to drop the isk requirement to use a heavy. lol...another idiot makes an appearance. Run along and play with your little AR. Obviously you're not a heavy. I'm waiting for a known heavy to come in here and tell me that Heavy suits or class in general is fine. Till then, you scrubs thinking otherwise can keep running around with your AR / shotgun thinking that heavies are fine. If you're running Proto Assault suit + Proto AR and you lose, you're a scrub! Sorry, but you should not lose to a B series heavy. The VK1 is just a B series with 1 extra high slot, so yeah, Proto Assault >>>>>> B series Heavy. L2P seriously. I have an alt heavy and i do just fine. And you obviously didn't pay much attention to my post, or you lack the mental capacity to comprehend it.
lolHeavyAlt... I can say I have Tank alt, Logi Alt, Scout alt, Dropship alt... but I'll be lying through my ass too.
How about playing a corp match with the Heavy class. L2P? Good one.
My lolKD is 8.6, and I play every corp match I'm available for. I don't pubstomp, and talk trash like some people do all day. My lolstats take serious hits when I play against good teams. So this whole leet crap about L2P, you can take somewhere else.
People that have this outlook that Heavies are tanks, are ******* idiots! It shows just how much they actually play the class, and the fact that you think heavies are great, shows you know NOTHING about the class. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
820
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:31:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:If you don't want to hear what anyone else has to say then change the title of this thread to, "LF other heavies to circle jerk with. Tears for lube inside".
I hear what everyone has to say, but until you're a heavy your opinion, or "advice" on the matter means next to nothing.
All you do is troll heavy threads cuz I think somewhere down the line an HMG molested you. You still butthurt? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:33:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:What if HMG pushed back its targets a bit and threw them off their targets? Like when I'm trying to counter snipe someone with my 9K330, and the guy's small rounds continue to push my aiming reticule up, completely throwing off my aim when I try to compensate for that. I'm pretty sure the force of the slug leaving the barrel of the forge gun is far stronger than the kinetic energy a sniper's round carries. I mean, it's not like the forge gun is a specialized mining tool or anything... |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:35:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:What if HMG pushed back its targets a bit and threw them off their targets? No, it would be like the old missiles. Heaven forbid the heavy class should have a single advantage over anyone, why, that would make it unbalanced. Not that any dev in the history of making games has understood what balance is. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:38:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:One Nip wrote:i know a good heavy player is hard for me to kill 1v1 with my assault suit and ar anyone who knows those few heavy players know there not a joke but theres just too many noob heavy players Sorry, but if you can't 1v1 a Heavy with your Proto AR + Proto Suit with dmg mods, you're not that good. No offense. Even good heavies, know what I'm saying is the truth, and if these "good heavy players" think that their class is fine as is, then their egos doing the talking. I think there's a problem when half my drum is gone, at least half of those 220 rounds hit, and I haven't got an assault guy's shield half way down. It's constant assault from a machine gun, because once HMG op is level 5, heat buildup doesn't matter. Is each round coming out of the barrel really that weak? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
822
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:42:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:One Nip wrote:i know a good heavy player is hard for me to kill 1v1 with my assault suit and ar anyone who knows those few heavy players know there not a joke but theres just too many noob heavy players Sorry, but if you can't 1v1 a Heavy with your Proto AR + Proto Suit with dmg mods, you're not that good. No offense. Even good heavies, know what I'm saying is the truth, and if these "good heavy players" think that their class is fine as is, then their egos doing the talking. I think there's a problem when half my drum is gone, at least half of those 220 rounds hit, and I haven't got an assault guy's shield half way down. It's constant assault from a machine gun, because once HMG op is level 5, heat buildup doesn't matter. Is each round coming out of the barrel really that weak?
It shoots spitballs, the bullet spread is bad, plus Assault players who shield tank.
Tbh, HMG's aren't really my complaint, yes I would like a buff of some kind (less range, tighter spread for example), but the class itself seems to be only good for Forge Gunning.
Pubstomping noobs all day maybe, but lolPubs. |
Don Von Hulio
UnReaL.
130
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:46:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Don Von Hulio wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Don Von Hulio wrote:Look. There are more B suits than legit proto players. But thats not the point. Heavies die alot more because the majority of everyone now has a decent suit and gun. If a heavy dies in CQ to an AR, they just suck and need to move on to another game...
Most people who play heavy go for body shots and attempt to mow everyone down from sheer bullet count. But now most people have high enough shields and/or armor which buys them enough time to sprint to cover. Not once have i seen anyone who isnt a heavy themselves just face off and sponge the HMG and win.
Heavies are not a joke, but those who complain about them being ineffective are however. When the game first started for open beta, heavies had it easy for too long and it seems people got too used to the no skill pray and spray game play it offered. CCP has left them alone up to now and I see them treating Assault and Logi suits the same way.
Heavies dont need a buff, they just need to drop the isk requirement to use a heavy. lol...another idiot makes an appearance. Run along and play with your little AR. Obviously you're not a heavy. I'm waiting for a known heavy to come in here and tell me that Heavy suits or class in general is fine. Till then, you scrubs thinking otherwise can keep running around with your AR / shotgun thinking that heavies are fine. If you're running Proto Assault suit + Proto AR and you lose, you're a scrub! Sorry, but you should not lose to a B series heavy. The VK1 is just a B series with 1 extra high slot, so yeah, Proto Assault >>>>>> B series Heavy. L2P seriously. I have an alt heavy and i do just fine. And you obviously didn't pay much attention to my post, or you lack the mental capacity to comprehend it. lolHeavyAlt... I can say I have Tank alt, Logi Alt, Scout alt, Dropship alt... but I'll be lying through my ass too. How about playing a corp match with the Heavy class. L2P? Good one. My lolKD is 8.6, and I play every corp match I'm available for. I don't pubstomp, and talk trash like some people do all day. My lolstats take serious hits when I play against good teams. So this whole leet crap about L2P, you can take somewhere else. People that have this outlook that Heavies are tanks, are ******* idiots! It shows just how much they actually play the class, and the fact that you think heavies are great, shows you know NOTHING about the class.
Oh please. I have a feeling you made this thread to start a flame war anyways. If they were so under powered I'd run up on them any chance I get with my superior AR that is so op. But no, I keep them at a distance and usually more than one person is shooting them.
I think the real issue is hit detection actually. |
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