If we were going to use modern military doctrine on heavy weapons then firstly CCP will have to increase HMG range beyond that of the basic assault rifle. Not something I see happening

current hardware limits stuff like that, nothing can be done by that.

WHAT??? HAHAHAHA

Are you saying the PS3 is limiting the range on guns due to its lack of power???

Please tell me I mistook your definition of hardware.

anyone else getting a spoiled little kid vibe from this guy? maybe it's just me.

WHAT??? HAHAHAHA

Are you saying the PS3 is limiting the range on guns due to its lack of power???

Please tell me I mistook your definition of hardware.

I'm really curious as to why people say it's range is too much? It's damage at a range is laughable, you can barely even get through shields at about the 40-50 mark. And if you are shooting at long ranges, then chances are you're out in the open and have left yourself exposed. That ARs have more range than HMG is fine with me, but asking to have the range cut even more? HMGs could use a nerf though. The current heat build up is negligible, it may as well be not be there, that needs to change. Maybe increase dispersion a bit more too?

STD Heavies do seem to be a bit... OP, though I'm not sure how else to nerf them aside from nerfing the HMG. Maybe even slower strafing speed? IDK, strafing with a heavy is pretty useless anyway, they're still big ass targets..

If you have anything meaningful to add, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=64176

Here is obviously a bunch of people that got molested by HMG's too many times.

Butthurt with Assault players is too strong.

It's not that they can take on the heavy and win, I understand that if anyone can stay out of the HMG line of fire at the heavy's optimal engagement they'll win. It's that any other proto suit, particularly an AR fitted proto suit, can consistently go toe to toe in the optimal line of fire, of a proto or advanced heavy, and still win without even having to make head shots that's the problem. Right now, I blame it on broken damage mods. I'm sure that when, or if, the damage mods are fixed the QQ threads over heavies being OP will return in abundance.

It's not that they can take on the heavy and win, I understand that if anyone can stay out of the HMG line of fire at the heavy's optimal engagement they'll win. It's that any other proto suit, particularly an AR fitted proto suit, can consistently go toe to toe in the optimal line of fire, of a proto or advanced heavy, and still win without even having to make head shots that's the problem. Right now, I blame it on broken damage mods. I'm sure that when, or if, the damage mods are fixed the QQ threads over heavies being OP will return in abundance.

Heavies, a support platform.. how off base could you be? It would be reasonable to call it an Av unit, because it can use the forge gun but the best description of it's role is as a defense oriented assault suit.

according to U.S. Army regulations 320-5 (AR 320-5) "heavy weapons" are all "weapons such as mortars, howitzers, guns, heavy machineguns and recoilless rifles which are usually part of infantry equipment."

As with most support units in any army, the size of a weapons platoon is generally smaller than that of its light infantry equivalent. For example, a typical light infantry platoon consists of 30 to 40 men divided in three or four squads (or sections) of 9GÇô13 men, whereas a weapons platoon substitutes the squads with smaller groups for mortar teams, machine gun crews, anti-tank teams etc.

Some platoons also include the assault element of a company. A company's weapons platoon will carry portable support weapons by sections, but also include a fast-attack light-infantry specialist squad of soldiers trained for breaching, raiding, and close combat.


A heavy weapon platoon is generally used as a support group to a number of other platoons in the immediate command area/zone in question. A ratio of one heavy platoon to three basic infantry platoons is the accepted number, anything above or below this may result in a specialised "company" such as a rifle company, or a long-range support company. The addition of a HWP (heavy weapons platoon) can greatly increase the chances of victory in a combat zone, due to the unique specialist abilities the soldiers in that group can offer to the company.

In more modern times, the application of heavy weapon support groups has been on the up. The ability to provide covering fire, and the suppression tactics of the heavy platoon mean that it is better equipped to give cover, and forms a vital component to the overall success, supporting the bulk of the company as they advance. Unlike in previous years, with the advancement in troop transportation, re-locating heavy weaponry and large quantities of ammunition is less of a problem.

This is just a QQ thread at this point. Anyone who disagrees with Lance gets a generic ~

"Wow, stfu scrub, you obviously never played any L337 proto assaults and scouts, which really are just players better than me in terms of all skill and gun game and not really anything to do with their suit. Your butthurt because we heavy's raped in you in the beginning with our easy mode suit. I'm right your wrong, BUFF ME!

lol what a joke.

This is just a QQ thread at this point. Anyone who disagrees with Lance gets a generic ~

"Wow, stfu scrub, you obviously never played any L337 proto assaults and scouts, which really are just players better than me in terms of all skill and gun game and not really anything to do with their suit. Your butthurt because we heavy's raped in you in the beginning with our easy mode suit. I'm right your wrong, BUFF ME!

lol what a joke.

Cop on and actually read the last few pages. It's actual proper debate in the main, with only a few douches acting up and talking bull. Lance is getting peeved and showing it, what with some of the trolls and idiots that have been posting here, but the point that he's trying to make is valid. He just needs to take a break. How about you join in with your own well though out argument. Or is the above your best contribution.

Cop on and actually read the last few pages. It's actual proper debate in the main, with only a few douches acting up and talking bull. Lance is getting peeved and showing it, what with some of the trolls and idiots that have been posting here, but the point that he's trying to make is valid. He just needs to take a break. How about you join in with your own well though out argument. Or is the above your best contribution.