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VAHZZ
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.22 02:17:00 -
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If you guys don't mind, could you recommend me a good Matari Logi fit, because I am preeeeeetty...pretty sure the fit I am using is not up to par.
Just a little FYI, I use the Republic Logi M-1, and I plan on getting a respec to get proto galscout/minscout and proto minlogi. It is too fun not to spec into.
X|V - I am a Bard
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
1
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Posted - 2015.07.22 03:14:00 -
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RedBleach LeSanglant wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:... It seems so strange to me that the one true OG 'Slayer Logi' was the Cal, back in Uprising 1.0. Now that it has been proven that the 'Warlords 1.2: Return of the Slayer Logi' (directed by Aeon Amandi) was proven to be false, it makes me wonder; what is still making the Cal Logi the weaker choice? It can't just be the loss of a bonus to shield extenders? Could it be that simple? Even stranger is the fact that the Cal Logi has an over 1.0 KD/R advantage over its Logi brethren. Is this due to it still actually functioning well as a solo semi-slayer suit? I think it may be due to the smaller amount of players running it. They know the suits limitations quite well, and as a result die much less. ... If I'm not mistaken The numbers from that KDR announcement were over the whole history of Dust514, and are therefore not an accurate depiction of the current state of the CAL Logi. But during the time that they were the killing bees with the shield bonus they were formidable. Now, I believe we have people that are still spec'ed into it, and with its many highs it can still be an efficient killing machine from AFAR. Close up it sucks. But as a Sniper or another Rail Rifle user that picks off the weak, or even bricked the Slot versatility swayed the data. I would like to see data from only the last quarter, maybe 6 months. Then I believe we would have more to discuss about the "why" of the situation IFF the KDR numbers still held true. But as it is from the beginning of the public release I believe they have little weight for making a suit decision - as far as the logis go. PLUS I'm a little pissed that I can't find Logi progression in the Suit progression choices. AM I just missing it somewhere? can someone else confirm whether or not it is there please? I am finding it very difficult to use the Cal Logi as a frontline suit. Everything shreds shields, and I only have 195 armor. It's almost as if I have to stack armor on a shield suit, just to survive...
The only way to survive is with a squad that can protect you. This suit is NOT a solo suit as suggested earlier in the thread. I have to duck in and out of cover much more often. It does however, work quite well with my Mass Driver, which is nice. It just sucks that I have to fit a CPU extender to be able to have above 600 HP on an advanced suit.
The Logi progression hasn't been finalized, since Rattati mentioned there is another Logi buff imminent. That's the only reason I can think of the progression system not being there yet.
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
1
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Posted - 2015.07.22 03:26:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:If you guys don't mind, could you recommend me a good Matari Logi fit, because I am preeeeeetty...pretty sure the fit I am using is not up to par.
Just a little FYI, I use the Republic Logi M-1, and I plan on getting a respec to get proto galscout/minscout and proto minlogi. It is too fun not to spec into. The M-I was given 5 extra slots since Warlords 1.2. The extra slots have completely changed how you can fit it. I used to fit the M-I with... H: Comp Shield Ex H: Comp Shield Ex L: Basic Armor Plate L: Basic Ferro G: Basic Flux W: Exo-5 MD E: BDR-2 E: X-3 Hive E: Stable Uplink
Was my go to fit for a long, long, long time. With the extra slots and equipment now, it's a whole different ballgame. I'll have to hop on and make a new fit to give you better advice. I mainly use the 'Shaman' as my cheap fit now. It's replaced my Sever Logi in pubs.
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.22 03:55:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:It's almost as if I have to stack armor on a shield suit, just to survive...
My observations as well.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
463
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Posted - 2015.07.22 04:35:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:VAHZZ wrote:If you guys don't mind, could you recommend me a good Matari Logi fit, because I am preeeeeetty...pretty sure the fit I am using is not up to par.
Just a little FYI, I use the Republic Logi M-1, and I plan on getting a respec to get proto galscout/minscout and proto minlogi. It is too fun not to spec into. The M-I was given 5 extra slots since Warlords 1.2. The extra slots have completely changed how you can fit it. I used to fit the M-I with... H: Comp Shield Ex H: Comp Shield Ex L: Basic Armor Plate L: Basic Ferro G: Basic Flux W: Exo-5 MD E: BDR-2 E: X-3 Hive E: Stable Uplink Was my go to fit for a long, long, long time. With the extra slots and equipment now, it's a whole different ballgame. I'll have to hop on and make a new fit to give you better advice. I mainly use the 'Shaman' as my cheap fit now. It's replaced my Sever Logi in pubs. I like the look of this fit, but if I may suggest bringing the shields down to adv, and the ferro up to adv, jut personal preference at that point though.
I prefer to keep my logi speed tanked for the most part, only running around 250 shields/armour, cant tell you a fit atm, but there are three basic ways to run min logi:
1- the obvious, dual tanked, it can take a hit, and dole one out as well, but slow as balls, and speed is a necessity for a logi.
2- speed tanked, ferros and an assortment of green and red pills for this one, cant deal much damage from the front, but good for retreating and rezing fallen comrades.
3- damage and rep tanked, not much to say here other than MD and damage mods is godly, but keep yourself repped, so some reactives, and maybe a red pill to keep your speed up.
those are the ways I have found that work best for me, but I suggest you try somethings out for your self, its fun to run, and hella good for points, just remember people will be able to see you on their passive scans, unless you are damped, and a logi can not (unless it is in the hands of a skilled slayer before someone gets mad) take on a superior force. it just doesn't happen(often).
other than that happy hunting, and go nuts. o7
Cleaning up the mess everyone leaves behind :)
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.22 16:42:00 -
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Speaking of fits I should try and replicate my MinAss fit via logi see if there's any way (while actually playing logi, i.e. filling my equipment slots) to get a similar stat profile because even on a lower SP character I was pulling a better kdr (and still over 1k WP ) than I do playing logi on my 100mill+ main. I'll report back with results if I get anything meaningful (though obviously I won't get the assault bonuses on my logi suit, and the fit will cost more due to the equipment, but even so).
CPM 1, reelection platform here.
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
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Posted - 2015.07.22 21:12:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:If you guys don't mind, could you recommend me a good Matari Logi fit, because I am preeeeeetty...pretty sure the fit I am using is not up to par.
Just a little FYI, I use the Republic Logi M-1, and I plan on getting a respec to get proto galscout/minscout and proto minlogi. It is too fun not to spec into. Try...
H: Adv Prec Enhancer H: Basic Extender H: Basic Extender H: Advanced Extender L: Adv Regulator L: Adv Kincat L: Adv Ferro L: Basic Plate W: CR or ACR G: Basic Flux E: Stable Link E: K-2 Hive E:Dirty Needle E: BDR-2
or...
H: Adv Prec Enhancer H: Basic Extender H: Basic Extender H: Basic Extender L: Basic Kincat L: Adv Rep L: Adv Ferro L: Comp Reactive W: CR or ACR G: Basic Flux E: Stable Link E: Standard Hive or Compact Hive E:Dirty Needle E: BDR-2
lastly...
H: Basic Extender H: Basic Extender H: Basic Extender H: Basic Extender L: Adv Cardio Reg L: Basic Ferro L: Adv Ferro L: Comp Reactive W: Mass Driver G: Basic Flux E: Stable Link E: X-3 Hive E: Adv Needle E: BDR-2
3 decent fits for ya to play around with. :)
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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RedBleach LeSanglant
0.P.
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Posted - 2015.07.23 21:28:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:RedBleach LeSanglant wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:... It seems so strange to me that the one true OG 'Slayer Logi' was the Cal, back in Uprising 1.0. Now that it has been proven that the 'Warlords 1.2: Return of the Slayer Logi' (directed by Aeon Amandi) was proven to be false, it makes me wonder; what is still making the Cal Logi the weaker choice? It can't just be the loss of a bonus to shield extenders? Could it be that simple? Even stranger is the fact that the Cal Logi has an over 1.0 KD/R advantage over its Logi brethren. Is this due to it still actually functioning well as a solo semi-slayer suit? I think it may be due to the smaller amount of players running it. They know the suits limitations quite well, and as a result die much less. ... If I'm not mistaken The numbers from that KDR announcement were over the whole history of Dust514, and are therefore not an accurate depiction of the current state of the CAL Logi. But during the time that they were the killing bees with the shield bonus they were formidable. Now, I believe we have people that are still spec'ed into it, and with its many highs it can still be an efficient killing machine from AFAR. Close up it sucks. But as a Sniper or another Rail Rifle user that picks off the weak, or even bricked the Slot versatility swayed the data. I would like to see data from only the last quarter, maybe 6 months. Then I believe we would have more to discuss about the "why" of the situation IFF the KDR numbers still held true. But as it is from the beginning of the public release I believe they have little weight for making a suit decision - as far as the logis go. PLUS I'm a little pissed that I can't find Logi progression in the Suit progression choices. AM I just missing it somewhere? can someone else confirm whether or not it is there please? I think the number were pulled over a 30 day period, since that was the most fair. At least, the numbers that showed the AmSent overperforming were from 30 days rather than life time.
Wow, I guess there is something to talk about if that is true... My understanding was that is was life since release.... I'll dig around for it.
And thank you for commenting about the Logi progression stuff - I missed that.
The Logi Code. Creator, Believer, Follower
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Mr Mariachi
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2015.07.26 15:29:00 -
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Hey guys, I was getting involved with this game several years prior before I took a hiatus to focus on classes and start college. Previously I had been playing as a logi focusing heavily on triage and support. I returned approximately two weeks ago and rebuilding my loadouts is overwhelming, not to mention actually utilising my stuff on the battlefield to aid my team! What are the big changes I should be aware of? |
Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion.
508
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Posted - 2015.07.26 15:39:00 -
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Mr Mariachi wrote:Hey guys, I was getting involved with this game several years prior before I took a hiatus to focus on classes and start college. Previously I had been playing as a logi focusing heavily on triage and support. I returned approximately two weeks ago and rebuilding my loadouts is overwhelming, not to mention actually utilising my stuff on the battlefield to aid my team! What are the big changes I should be aware of?
Always great to see a new logi. :)
Also STD and ADV suits now have a proto type loadout... so you can do more things now :)
Personal Manager of Destinys Immortals
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Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion.
508
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Posted - 2015.07.26 17:55:00 -
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Meanwhileeeee.... We may get our Logi Vehicles back in the future. :)
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nyghthawke cox
Nyghthawke Industries
8
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Posted - 2015.07.26 21:31:00 -
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Where did the Amarr and Min vehicles go in the first place. I saw a pic that showed vehicles for four races. What happened. |
Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion.
513
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Posted - 2015.07.26 21:32:00 -
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nyghthawke cox wrote:Where did the Amarr and Min vehicles go in the first place. I saw a pic that showed vehicles for four races. What happened.
We've currently hit the Max RAM for the PS3... We can't have our duct tape Min HAVs until we get more Memory...
Hopes up 4 Logi vehicles
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nyghthawke cox
Nyghthawke Industries
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Posted - 2015.07.27 02:35:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:nyghthawke cox wrote:Where did the Amarr and Min vehicles go in the first place. I saw a pic that showed vehicles for four races. What happened. We've currently hit the Max RAM for the PS3... We can't have our duct tape Min HAVs until we get more Memory...
Well At least I can use Gall. assault Dropships. sucks though cause the Min version looked like a flying tank.
That also explains why the radar doesn't have the topographic sat pics as seen on another screen shot. they make gauging distances better as it was all I would use for radar in Mechwarrior 3.( out of character) |
Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.28 00:43:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:nyghthawke cox wrote:Where did the Amarr and Min vehicles go in the first place. I saw a pic that showed vehicles for four races. What happened. We've currently hit the Max RAM for the PS3... We can't have our duct tape Min HAVs until we get more Memory... We will however be getting placeholders. The visual assets will be reskins of the current in game vehilces but the stat blocks, slots, etc will be proper for their races (may require some balancing in game before it hits the right spot, as with most things there's really no substitute for live play).
And yes vehicle roles are also under consideration, not just the racial variants.
CPM 1, reelection platform here.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.28 00:46:00 -
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Mr Mariachi wrote:Hey guys, I was getting involved with this game several years prior before I took a hiatus to focus on classes and start college. Previously I had been playing as a logi focusing heavily on triage and support. I returned approximately two weeks ago and rebuilding my loadouts is overwhelming, not to mention actually utilising my stuff on the battlefield to aid my team! What are the big changes I should be aware of? Band Width is something to keep in mind. Also check your suit stat blocks for the changes to things like mobility and native armor repair. Beyond that the 3 ring system for eWar if you haven't read up on that yet. And watch out for jump fits, because that's a thing now and may effect how you choose to build your loadouts. o7
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.28 06:23:00 -
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Well look what I found here.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.07.29 03:26:00 -
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Logi gk.0 (190k) HS: Cmp Dmg Amp (x2), Cmp Precision LS: Basic Plates (x3), Cmp Reps (x2) EQ: Creodron Flux Scanner (x2), Viziam Flux Uplink, Allotek Hive PW: SB-39 (or) SL-4 Rail Rifle GR: Core Locus
^ Been running variations of this suit all day. Feels OP. Especially in Ambush.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.29 06:02:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Logi gk.0 (190k) HS: Cmp Dmg Amp (x2), Cmp Precision LS: Basic Plates (x3), Cmp Reps (x2) EQ: Creodron Flux Scanner (x2), Viziam Flux Uplink, Allotek Hive PW: SB-39 (or) SL-4 Rail Rifle GR: Core Locus
^ Ran variations of this suit for the better part of the day. Relative to the other fits I've run this build, this unit feels OP. Particularly in Ambush. By contrast, can't say that I'm impressed with my CalLogi. Highlights the deep flaw in current rifle builds. Rifles are balanced to be optimal on any suit that can fit them, rather than requiring the support of role and race skills to attain optimal results. This leads to bleed in both role and race definition. Right now a common fit is the Gal Assault running a RR and using rep hives. This shows degrees of both race and role bleed and the Gal Logi can perform a similar feat which is still subject to the racial bleed issues.
This is the same type of issue as seen with the PLC, MD, Flay, on a jump mod fit. The weapons themselves are not OP but they are built with certain limitations in mind as part of design intent, those limitations including firing mechanics which are countered by the ability to jump above the head height of your opponent during a fire fight.
Gal fits keyed with Gal weapons are at a very different balance point than Gal fits keyed for use with Cal weapons (the rail rifle line).
Of the current top ten light weapons used based on market stats (source time stamp 7/28/2015) the rail rifle line comprises nearly a full third of all use with 32.9% of the pie. Of the current low slow mods used basic armor plates alone comprise 13.4% of mods used, placing them at rank #2 of most used low mods just below enhanced armor plates. Of current high slot mods complex damage mods rank #3 on the top ten most used, comprising 12% of all high mod use. Of equipment the nanohive ranks #1 on the top ten list with 21.5% of all use.
Meanwhile there is not a single proto logi suit in the top 10 use cases. The two logi suits that do make the top 10 are in the bottom 5, and neither of them is the Gal or Cal, so while I've no doubt that compared to the Cal in the current state of the game the Gal logi can feel potent the frame itself is far from being OP. Looking at the market data what makes the gk.0 fit you've listed potent is the use of damage mods combined with armor tank, combined with hives and the rail rifle, I'm sure the Core nades don't hurt either (or rather they hurt a lot as we all know well ). Any fit comprised primarily of mods and weapons that are top use case in the current meta is likely to be potent and the gk.0 is no exception, but to be OP we need a wider field of comparison than one other logi suit (and frankly the weakest logi suit at present) we'd need to see the frame in question over performing in general as opposed to the current state where no meta variation of the frame even appears anywhere within the top 10 most used frames, as opposed to the assault suits which have some representation of every racial line in the top five while the Min Assault shows up twice in the top ten and is also the only race with a proto suit on the list.
If someone is looking for a potent logi fit with the most punch per pound then running the Logi mk.0 with damage mods, shilds and/or myos, ferro plates (possibly basic + reps depending on intended use), hives, core nades and a RR is a very good bet. It may not stack up to any of the suits in the assault line when kitted out the same but it'll get you there in the mix with some support ability still intact.
There's a reason (or perhaps I should say several) why the Min Logi has such a strong following, and it's no coincidence that the Min Assault does as well, even with the recent strafe reduction they're still performing well.
0.02 ISK Cross
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2015.07.29 08:35:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote: Highlights the deep flaw in current rifle builds. Rifles are balanced to be optimal on any suit that can fit them, rather than requiring the support of role and race skills to attain optimal results. This leads to bleed in both role and race definition. Right now a common fit is the Gal Assault running a RR and using rep hives. This shows degrees of both race and role bleed and the Gal Logi can perform a similar feat which is still subject to the racial bleed issues.
0.02 ISK Cross
Goes back to my idea of logi bonuses being racially defined playstyles
Caldari > Range bonuses Gallente > Effectiveness bonuses Minmatar > Speed bonuses Amarr > Amount bonuses
A step further would be something like nerfing the flux scanner to only have that ridiculous range if you ran it on a Caldari, encouraging the use of RRs with a Cal Logi instead.
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.31 05:50:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Logi gk.0 (190k) HS: Cmp Dmg Amp (x2), Cmp Precision LS: Basic Plates (x3), Cmp Reps (x2) EQ: Creodron Flux Scanner (x2), Viziam Flux Uplink, Allotek Hive PW: SB-39 (or) SL-4 Rail Rifle GR: Core Locus
LS: Basic Plates (x3), Cmp Reps (x2) ---> Enh Ferro (x4), Cmp Rep (x1)
* Didn't realize that vanilla plates impacted rotation speed.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.31 19:06:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Logi gk.0 (190k) HS: Cmp Dmg Amp (x2), Cmp Precision LS: Basic Plates (x3), Cmp Reps (x2) EQ: Creodron Flux Scanner (x2), Viziam Flux Uplink, Allotek Hive PW: SB-39 (or) SL-4 Rail Rifle GR: Core Locus
LS: Basic Plates (x3), Cmp Reps (x2) ---> Enh Ferro (x4), Cmp Rep (x1) * Didn't realize that vanilla plates impacted rotation speed. Their use rate is a bit higher than I'd anticipated, I wonder how much of that is down to people who like you had not yet (or currently do not yet) realize their impact on rotation speed.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.08.01 09:26:00 -
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Just a general reminder, voting for CPM 2 is open and regardless of who you're voting for I encourage you to vote.
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
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Posted - 2015.08.02 23:10:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Just a general reminder, voting for CPM 2 is open and regardless of who you're voting for I encourage you to vote. Voted for my 6 favorites, with a wild card 7th thrown in for good measure. My Ron Paul or Ralph Nader pick if you will.
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.08.03 02:05:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Cross Atu wrote:Just a general reminder, voting for CPM 2 is open and regardless of who you're voting for I encourage you to vote. Voted for my 6 favorites, with a wild card 7th thrown in for good measure. My Ron Paul or Ralph Nader pick if you will. Well played vote and PolySci ref, +1 sir
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.08.03 02:51:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Cross Atu wrote:Just a general reminder, voting for CPM 2 is open and regardless of who you're voting for I encourage you to vote. Voted for my 6 favorites, with a wild card 7th thrown in for good measure. My Ron Paul or Ralph Nader pick if you will. Well played vote and PolySci ref, +1 sir So far I know two of the Triange Ward occupants have gotten my vote, Cross, and Zaria.
EDIT: I have already voted... too bad I didn't hop on the 1k train.
VF Diplomat.
Basically, I clean up the political shit the other's make.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.08.03 03:08:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Cross Atu wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Cross Atu wrote:Just a general reminder, voting for CPM 2 is open and regardless of who you're voting for I encourage you to vote. Voted for my 6 favorites, with a wild card 7th thrown in for good measure. My Ron Paul or Ralph Nader pick if you will. Well played vote and PolySci ref, +1 sir So far I know two of the Triange Ward occupants have gotten my vote, Cross, and Zaria. EDIT: I have already voted... too bad I didn't hop on the 1k train. Thank you kindly Raven o7
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nyghthawke cox
Nyghthawke Industries
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Posted - 2015.08.04 02:54:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Just a general reminder, voting for CPM 2 is open and regardless of who you're voting for I encourage you to vote.
Where do I go to vote |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.04 03:11:00 -
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nyghthawke cox wrote:
Where do I go to vote
https://dust514.com/community/cpm/vote/
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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nyghthawke cox
Nyghthawke Industries
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Posted - 2015.08.04 03:30:00 -
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Thank you for your help, but sadly, I could not vote due to the 60 day 30 hour rule. I have been playing for over a year. I guess starting/joining a corps resets the tickers that may be used to allow you to vote. I will say that Cross is in both of the forums I read and is helpful in both. He may even be the person I run some thoughts by before posting them. |
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