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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.06.24 18:48:00 -
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Very interested to see what everyone has to say about game play under the new changes. Let's get some impressions and discussions going in here 
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.06.24 18:53:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Very interested to see what everyone has to say about game play under the new changes. Let's get some impressions and discussions going in here  In a nutshell.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.24 20:39:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Very interested to see what everyone has to say about game play under the new changes. Let's get some impressions and discussions going in here 
It is my heavy suspicion that with strafing nerfs more and more people are going to resort to myofibril stacked fits.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
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Posted - 2015.06.24 23:01:00 -
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My reaction to the new NPE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWCFv3zvXLM&feature=youtu.be&t=54s
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.01 03:09:00 -
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* Caveat: Layman
Ran Logi a 'bit earlier today. Gal w/ 2 KinCats + Ferros. The speed buff did not strike me as overly done.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.01 15:30:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:* Caveat: Layman
Ran Logi a 'bit earlier today. Gal w/ 2 KinCats + Ferros. The speed buff did not strike me as overly done. Agree, so far so good regarding the changes. [Note: my testing is still in the very early stages, conclusions may change with more time and data]
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.01 15:37:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:* Caveat: Layman
Ran Logi a 'bit earlier today. Gal w/ 2 KinCats + Ferros. The speed buff did not strike me as overly done. Agree, so far so good regarding the changes. [Note: my testing is still in the very early stages, conclusions may change with more time and data] Completely agree. Initial impression.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
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Posted - 2015.07.01 16:05:00 -
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Trying out a shield/speed build on my Min logi right now.
Feels like the closed beta with our vk.1 suits. Very happy about that.
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.01 16:07:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Trying out a shield/speed build on my Min logi right now.
Feels like the closed beta with our vk.1 suits. Very happy about that. Nice, keep us posted 
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.07.02 05:25:00 -
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Haven't even noticed the speed change. I'm assuming strafing nerf hasn't hit yet.
I *have* been able to punch the **** out of a lot more shotgun scouts, knifers and low hp assaults/mediums. So maybe that's a side effect. Been spending a huge amount of time playing on my min alt.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
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Posted - 2015.07.02 15:22:00 -
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My Am logi is having a easier time using the needle :)
ZariaOwnsWhips
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.02 16:42:00 -
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Another early impression:
Logis seem to be somewhat more common than before and can be somewhat more difficult to kill. But they are not, in my observations thus far, anything like the old Slayer Logis from AR-514. It is perhaps too early to tell, but I do not expect that their kill/spawn efficiency or usage rates will exceed those of the assault class.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Miles O'Rourke
Ready to Play
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Posted - 2015.07.04 00:33:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Cross Atu wrote:Very interested to see what everyone has to say about game play under the new changes. Let's get some impressions and discussions going in here  It is my heavy suspicion that with strafing nerfs more and more people are going to resort to myofibril stacked fits.
From what I hear from friends doing the event, myofibril stacked fits are indeed on the increase. Have yet to see anything first hand.
I used to be a Squad Lead like you, but then I took a Thale's to the knee.
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
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Posted - 2015.07.04 01:07:00 -
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I'm loving the speed increase, even with less HP, I can actually make it to cover now!
Why do I have the same amount of stamina as a Heavy Frame???
If the Amarr are weighed down by armor, why can I not outrun one in the open terrain? The stamina nerf doesn't make much sense to me...
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
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Posted - 2015.07.04 05:59:00 -
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So, overall I would say that it is completely viable to run a kin cat/regulator/reactive in the lows while stacking shields in the highs.
Sprimt speed is about 8.6, and that really helps when you need to either get over to someome else quickly, or possibly just jump over a barrier...
It's the much better option as a solo logi, but you need to be on your feet and know when to run away (or just to keep moving)
I had an encounter with a scout where instead of facing him head on I ran around the corner to have him chase me while I flung mass driver rounds around said corner. Instead of continuing he tried to run away but I was able to quickly turn back and chase him down.
The most useful thing is being able to disengage from most fights. Before, if someone caught you off guard in the open, running away at <7.0 sprint meant you either had to kill them or they would kill you.
Now if you run into a proto sentinel, or a proto caldari assault with a RR (both tough for my mass driver to chew through), you can be like "nope, I'm getting out of here"
Again, this is all at the cost of a low slot as a complex kin cat, which does take up a lot of pg...but I think it works better than just stacking plates. It will be interesting to try out the Caldari Logi again once logistics progression is in place.
My next test will be to figure out the most effective gallente style armor tank (fereos and reps) based on the new speed capabilities of the logi.
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.06 02:59:00 -
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1.2 Patch notes, looks like we're going to have more play testing to do  http://dust514.com/news/2015/07/warlords-1.2-overview-patch-notes/
As ever I'll be interested to see what everyone finds as take aways once these changes go live.
I'm already able to state definitively however that the SKINs viewer is a nice touch and I'd love to see what folks think the progression system will do for the NPE.
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.07 02:36:00 -
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I'm special.
Any dust port soon?.
I am GJRs Renfield.
You heard it here first, I told you so.
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chill penguin
Tal-Romon Legion
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Posted - 2015.07.07 03:19:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:So, overall I would say that it is completely viable to run a kin cat/regulator/reactive in the lows while stacking shields in the highs.
Sprint speed is about 8.6, and that really helps when you need to either get over to someone else quickly, or possibly just jump over a barrier...
I find this very effective, even on the slow Amarr Logi. But instead of a Mass Driver, I use the AScR to help keep range and kill if need be. Mostly because I am horrible with those snowball launchers. |

Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.07 03:26:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:I'm special.
Any dust port soon?. I certainly hope so. 
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.07 03:40:00 -
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chill penguin wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:So, overall I would say that it is completely viable to run a kin cat/regulator/reactive in the lows while stacking shields in the highs.
Sprint speed is about 8.6, and that really helps when you need to either get over to someone else quickly, or possibly just jump over a barrier...
I find this very effective, even on the slow Amarr Logi. But instead of a Mass Driver, I use the AScR to help keep range and kill if need be. Mostly because I am horrible with those snowball launchers. Practice!
Mass Driver is one of the best weapons for a logi to use, perfect support weapon!
but to each their own.
mass driver........mmmmm
Cleaning up the mess everyone leaves behind :)
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
404
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Posted - 2015.07.07 03:51:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I'm special.
Any dust port soon?. I certainly hope so.  god damn I love your sig.
Cleaning up the mess everyone leaves behind :)
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.07 04:40:00 -
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Sned TheDead wrote:Cross Atu wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I'm special.
Any dust port soon?. I certainly hope so.  god damn I love your sig. Thank you kindly fun is important after all 
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Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.08 17:53:00 -
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10/10 Should create a Logi chat channel in game. If one currently exists someone should totally tell me.....
Personal Manager of Destinys Immortals.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.07.08 23:34:00 -
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Ok, so I am thinking of skilling into the Min Logi, and I know very little about Logis.
What is it geared towards?
What are its weaknesses?
How would you run it?
Any insight would be helpful.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.09 01:12:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Ok, so I am thinking of skilling into the Min Logi, and I know very little about Logis.
What is it geared towards?
What are its weaknesses?
How would you run it?
Any insight would be helpful. Well, the bonus is to a reptool, so the easiest answer is... a rep/support Logi. That is not the only answer, or the whole answer, but it is a place to start.
I seem to remember you run a scout primarily? As such, are you interested in the Min logi specifically due to it having higher base speed that the other logis? If so, you will obviously want to optimise that advantage. Even after the recent nerf, it still has nice stamina regen, which helps with mobility.
The Min suits can really be run in so many different ways, they lend themselves to at least armour, speed or hybrid tanking easily enough, but in my opinion the innate shield regen values can make pure shield tanking somewhat frustrating. I personally tend to mainly go for a mix of regen and speed tanking over HP bricking, depending on the purpose of the fit obviously.
One of the most common Minlogi "standards" is probably the fairly mobile frontline medic type. Not really speedtanked, as you will lack the survivability to really perform as a combat support in that case, but not bricking to be a sitting duck either. Reptool, needle, hives, whatever else you deem useful fo the fourth slot, stick to a couple of team or squad mates and support them pushing/defending an objective while watching the flanks.
If you plan to ignore the reptool bonus and not run one, focusing more on the speed lends itself really well to a demolition/uplink patrol logi. RE/ Proxy traps where applicable, or a fit with a set or two of uplinks, where you stay out of the thick of the battle, but rather use your mobility to circle the battle and clear enemy links and place your own, swooping in to needle people or thow ammo at friendlies as needed. Massdriver is lovely for clearing out enemy equipment ;)
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.07.09 02:00:00 -
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Thanks Zaria!
Mainly, its because I am a Minmatar loyalist, and with the recent tiercide direction, it seems like it is easier to be effective at standard and advanced levels now, and I have a bit of SP to throw around.
I just needed a basic run down of the suit you gave, so I could play to its strengths and deviate as my play style deems appropriate. It was very helpful!
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.09 02:07:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Ok, so I am thinking of skilling into the Min Logi, and I know very little about Logis.
What is it geared towards?
What are its weaknesses?
How would you run it?
Any insight would be helpful. Well, the bonus is to a reptool, so the easiest answer is... a rep/support Logi. That is not the only answer, or the whole answer, but it is a place to start. I seem to remember you run a scout primarily? As such, are you interested in the Min logi specifically due to it having higher base speed that the other logis? If so, you will obviously want to optimise that advantage. Even after the recent nerf, it still has nice stamina regen, which helps with mobility. The Min suits can really be run in so many different ways, they lend themselves to at least armour, speed or hybrid tanking easily enough, but in my opinion the innate shield regen values can make pure shield tanking somewhat frustrating. I personally tend to mainly go for a mix of regen and speed tanking over HP bricking, depending on the purpose of the fit obviously. One of the most common Minlogi "standards" is probably the fairly mobile frontline medic type. Not really speedtanked, as you will lack the survivability to really perform as a combat support in that case, but not bricking to be a sitting duck either. Reptool, needle, hives, whatever else you deem useful fo the fourth slot, stick to a couple of team or squad mates and support them pushing/defending an objective while watching the flanks. If you plan to ignore the reptool bonus and not run one, focusing more on the speed lends itself really well to a demolition/uplink patrol logi. RE/ Proxy traps where applicable, or a fit with a set or two of uplinks, where you stay out of the thick of the battle, but rather use your mobility to circle the battle and clear enemy links and place your own, swooping in to needle people or thow ammo at friendlies as needed. Massdriver is lovely for clearing out enemy equipment ;) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
that.
all of that.
Cleaning up the mess everyone leaves behind :)
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.09 02:43:00 -
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Quite pleased to see the ward shaping up to provide the kind of discussion and support I was hoping it could when I opened the doors here. Thanks to everyone who has and continues to be a part of that 
Cheers, Cross
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.09 02:47:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:10/10 Should create a Logi chat channel in game. If one currently exists someone should totally tell me..... A Triage Ward chat should totally be a thing, I'll open one up tomorrow. Good idea 
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Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:06:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:10/10 Should create a Logi chat channel in game. If one currently exists someone should totally tell me..... A Triage Ward chat should totally be a thing, I'll open one up tomorrow. Good idea 
Someone asked in State Task Force for the Logi channel (Assuming one was already made) then 8213 with his sarcasm said "Logi has no gun game" or something Similar... I just wanted to help him out but... He wanted tips for amarr... and well Obviously by my sig I hate Amarrian tech. :P
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