true, if you want to you can hasten the revive by switching to your nanite injector before you reach him.

in case you didn't know..... you probably did..... that was probably an irrelevant statement......

Actually I didn't. Thank you, I am learning that many things can be done differently than I thought.

I will be keepin irregular tabs on this thread, mostly for fun thourh

[...] the idea of Slot Progression Flattening [...]

Solid posts that I suggest you check out:

Power Cores and Slot Progression

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^... what the everloving christ are you talking about? Powercores are meant to replace suit levels. So instead of fitting out a medium frame, logi or assault, you already have the medium frame and it comes with a mlt powercore in it unless you choose to put a basic, advanced or proto core into it, or an assault powercore (basic, adv, pro) or a logi powercore (basic, adv, pro).

At least that's the idea. Powercores cant (yet?) modify slot layouts so we're just pruning down the number of suits. It should also make duplicating / modifying fits a lot easier too - swap out a powercore if you want it to be cheaper.

I just don't understand how you could even draw the conclusion that they're a piece of equipment to be passed around.

I just don't understand how you could even draw the conclusion that they're a piece of equipment to be passed around.

Well thanks for making me feel important, I have a learned a few jems of advice over this past year.

Glad to help

no, I believe all commandos only have one, except possibly the officer, but other than that no.

to find out if the officer suit does, you will have to ask someone else, I dont have much knowledge on commandos

Picked up Logi this weekend. Have literally nothing to complain about KDR, WP., and speed wise. Probably one of the more interesting suits I've played to date.

Hmmm, which logi? Interms of straight WP and healing above all else, of course my minmatar is king, but latley, in terms of wider team support i've been trying out the gallente.

Dual adv scans keep the area lit up. Six kin triage to rep two at once, and a rail rifle to keep nosy enemies back. I know its pure gellente weapons, but the logi, especially providing scans and long range reps doesnt need to be in the thick of things. Its still niche, and i wouln't use to advance on a position.

Thats two logi roles nailed, but i'm having trouble finding a niche for my caldari and amarr suits. My Min always carries uplinks, and everybody has tons of nano hives, i can't see a good reason to pull out the caldari.

Amarr Logistics of course.

I have two fits which are roughly designed to achieve the same thing. Fortification.

One make use of the Six Kin Triage, the Viziam Drop Uplink, and the Wyrkomi Nanite Injector though my commonly used one forgoes the Rep tool for Wyrkomi Triage Hives. While they only have 427 armour they are fast, jump reasonably well, and remain combat effective being able to tear down enemy positions and quickly set up friendly ones.

Putting this here

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=203790&find=unread

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=203785&find=unread

*CONFETTI*

Congrats guys, the dark days are finally coming to an end for logistics. I couldn't be happier for my yellow compatriots !

Ahh, with the nanohive buff, thats not to bad at all. I'm too much of a logi hipster to fit it that way, I fgure I should keep each logi focused on it racial bonus. 2 uplinks reptool on the amarr, 2 scanners reptool on the gallente, two nanohives needle caldari, jack of all trades minmatar, since theres no need for two seperate reptools.

With the upcoming tiercide, things will be very interesting for the logibros, my own caldari and amarr logis will be much more combat oriented. Gallente and Minmatar will pretty much be the same.

Assuming eHP / Speed is implemented as described, spitballing ...

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Caveat: Idea #1 assumes that other units are threatening to encroach upon Assault slayer territory. This potentiality is arguably unlikely; Idea #1 is presented as a contingency.

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Idea #1) Wire all Assaults with a higher sprint multiplier than other frames (credit to Ripley Riley). Thinking short bursts of speed for moving from cover-to-cover or getting to the frontlines faster. This should be a "special property" unique to Assault frames.

Regular Sprint Multiplier (current ---> future)
Assault Frame: mCharProp.movementSprint.groundSpeedScale = 1.4
GA/CA Assault Base Speed: 5 m/s ----> 4.6 m/s
MN Assault Base Speed: 5.3 m/s ---> 4.8 m/s
AM Assault Base Speed: 4.8 m/s ---> 4.3 m/s
GA/CA Assault Sprint Speed: 7.35 m/s ---> 6.76 m/s
MN Assault Sprint Speed: 7.79 m/s ---> 7.06 m/s
AM Assault Sprint Speed: 7.06 m/s ---> 6.43 m/s


Special Sprint Multiplier (proposed)
Assault Frame: mCharProp.movementSprint.groundSpeedScale = 1.5
GA/CA Assault Base Speed: 4.6 m/s
MN Assault Base Speed: 4.8 m/s
AM Assault Base Speed: 4.3 m/s
GA/CA Assault Sprint Speed: 7.25 m/s
MN Assault Sprint Speed: 7.56 m/s
AM Assault Sprint Speed: 6.77 m/s

If my maths are correct, the MN Assault with this "special sprint multiplier" will sprint at a slightly lower speed (7.56 m/s) than the AM Scout and the future MN Logi (7.72 m/s). Kindly note that only sprint speeds are affected by this proposed "special multiplier" and that base movement speeds (and other speeds derived from base movement) remain exactly as Rattati has outlined on Page 1.

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Idea #2) Improve Gal and Cal Assault bonuses:

* Gal Assault: Replace bonus to dispersion with bonus to rate-of-fire
* Cal Assault: Replace bonus to reload with bonus to kick while aiming-down-sights

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Disclaimer: Part-Time Assault

I made a thing to look at various dropsuit stats and compare them to each other and between races.

Google docs LINK

I think it is safe to say that part of the Minmatars overwhelming mobility comes from their far superior Stamina Regen.

Speaking of which and about the Logis and Commandos, perhaps it is time to take a look at:
Stamina
Stamina Regen
Shield Recharge Rate
Shield Recharge Delay
Shield Depleted Recharge Delay

As well as the racial perks and sacrifices of various stats, what do you think?

Just for clarification I want Logi to gain their movement speed. However what I do not agree with is that it is necessary to have Asssaults take a hit to their mobility value or why Logistics actually require higher mobility values that the suits we are supposed to be supporting in order to do a pretty clear non-combat job.

The Assault role is all about rapidly attacking point in quick succession, this is why I find most people like the role in the first place, not this 'slaying' bullshit. Being a 'slayer' is determined by the player operating the suit, anyone CAN do it.

While I agree with that statement it seems illogical to have logistics players advancing faster than your assault units.

I don't see a need to differentiate their speeds. Asssault dropsuits are primarily aggression and weapons focused while logistics are support and equipment focused.

Logi players shouldn't want to be outrunning their team mates, on the other hand, assaults should want to be in the enemy teams face all the time.

Why not instead buff Logistics speed up to that of Assaults so that they get what they want however do not drag down another class to do it.

Listing movement as if it is only an aggressive trait or it is all forward movement is an oversight.
Movement allows you to get to cover, to retreat, to reach a wounded comrade, to start that important counter hack a few moments sooner. Movement happens throughout a match and it is far from being purely an advancing action.

It is not a question of making assaults slower, it is a question of game wide making the relationship between raw HP and base speed a consistent thing. If the portion of the community that runs assaults as primary find it better to have both logi and assault sport identical speed and HP stats then that would suffice as well.
I have a personal bias toward a bit more diversity than that, but the key isn't my preference, the key is properly maintaining the ratio.

It's that curve I disagree with.