I love this "we" versus "them" thing you got going, Adipem. It really comes off as ostracizing, like the "we" you refer to is somehow better than Cat Merc and Zatara, especially when you say "if their proposal had passed without Rattati's intervention". It's cheeky, to say the least.

If I didn't know any better, I'd say that the "we" in this case paints a pretty sure-fire picture of a collective of individuals who are pressing their own particular agenda, because that's kinda what it comes off as.

Take a second to set aside whatever arbitrary barrier "you guys" threw up to segregate yourselves and remember that this is still a community and all of our voices are responsible for any changes that happen in this game, please.

the reload time of the HMG is 8 seconds. If you're spending more time reloading than anything else overall there's a defect in design.

Ok, not attacking you Breakin Stuff, but you aren't regularly a heavy in a PC right? (Your previous posts point more to RE scout or assault, playing Sherlock here)

When you have other heavies coming at you and you know you have what, 1.5-2 heavies worth of ammo and more than one is walking down a hall. The tactical question always is when do I reload? Even if you have 3 core focus at your back, you are going to die if you can't think this out because during that 8 seconds you will die.

I get questioned about when I reloaded last all the time especially in a fire fight with my usual 2 heavies on inside squad. If I have a fresh mag and someone needs to reload, we switch places while the low ammo heavy reloads.

We all agree that hitting with a HMG is more about quantity over quality. I am proposing a reduction in quantity, hence reducing the amount of death a single heavy can inflict. Yes, if you charge a HMG you will still die in 2 seconds. If you duck, dodge, and get him to waste his ammo, you can wait for the reload then attack. This will make the HMG a skill based weapon. Like the breach shotgun or the bolt pistol. You don't pray and spray, you focus fire.

Dude, I've got all the sentinels at 5, I don't scout. I actually do have some knowledge of how the class works.

So please enlighten me with your POV on how you would fight with half your ammo?

Hell, I have tried it, fire off into a wall after each reload half your rounds. Things get scary after killing 2-3 standard suits. Even in pub matches, missing stops being an option.

BTW - To equalize - I PC Proto - Full Equip Min Logi, Cal Scout, and Amar Heavy. Best of each world, IMO, GAL Scout is next on the list, but I have been spreading my SP pretty thin.

I also like how you used, "Dude" to start that statement out because as an ex-surfer, I say dude a lot still. Don't flame up, just acknowledge my post and evaluate it please. The meat of this thread has been gathering ways to nerf the HMG and provide variances. When ideas like mine are posted, like on the tank hull thread, we need to stay productive and on topic.

I believe it's because of the idea that heavies are the best in CQC if you have a logi at his back and of all the heavies amarr take advantage of this the most with all their armor.
If we removed the amarr heavy then gal would be the top used and if it was removed then even the min sent would be the most used.

3 things come to mind:
1) map design
2) a unit that has BOTH high HP and DPS
3) rep tool being too powerful behind said unit (needs some kind of overheat mechanic and/or nanite consumption mechanic)

If we tried to remedy the problem by addressing only one of these issues we will undoubtedly over nerf that aspect of the game.

Something needs to be done about those pronto while reining in that Min Assault.

There's nothing to reign in.

The only advantages the MinAssault has over the others are speed and versatility. In any other aspect, be it health, regen, eWAR, equipment, etc it either performs equally or is inferior to the other Assaults.

It is black and white. You run max hp sentinels or re scouts to kill sentinels. The combo of both are used to give heavies working passive scans.

Python missiles kill everything. Gunnlogi rail kills drop ships from redline.

Minmatar assault is rising because it's there's something wrong with it. It's too fast even with plates on it. And it has the same hitbox issues as the cal scout now.

Imp at least you have reasons that are backed by something resembling logic usually. Most of the people I argue with can't get past "I don't like it therefore it's bad!"

>Looks at the raw data
>Searches for Gallente Assault
>28th place
>Looks at the weapon
>rail rifle

>Head desk

500k ISK says the AScR changes are going to put a sharp halt to the popularity of the min assault.

And i will laugh while killing amarr from extreme range.

In my covenant C-1

with a militia rail rifle blueprint

And my basic ScR will show you the light of God by beaming it right through your face,

Nerfs incoming due to data from PC, where everybody uses their best gear and brings their A-game?

To which nerfs are you referring to friend?

I'm not saying this to be an ******** or anything but in most successful competitive games top down balancing is usually the way to go. (I.E Balance things based from the top players data. Examples would be Starcraft 2, Counter Strike, Battlefield, League of Legends)

lol thats probably me

How many kills has the Breach Shotgun had? Maybe time for a buff?

Can anyone tell me how the ASCR heat buildup feels on a non Amarr suit? I've never used one outside of my Amarr assault. If it is like all the other Amarr guns and the suit is very important to heat buildup then I wonder how many people might switch to Amarr suits. Which will make armor tanking even more prevalent.

The meta shakeup from this upcoming patch is going to be fascinating. (and probably take a few months to fully shift around.)

Overheats in 57 shots, about 3/4 magazine. Cooldown is much slower though.