To address anti-shield concerns, after we add HAV progression, we will add anti-shield swarm launchers, and homing av-flux grenades, probably reduce lock on range on normal swarm launchers and add an anti-air version, most likely a single long range swarm missile to hopefully improve the rendering of incoming threats to dropships.

Would this anti-shield swarm launcher fall under the same skills?

Also would it for the game logic be classified as a laser weapon (+20, -20)?

Would this anti-shield swarm launcher fall under the same skills?

Also would it for the game logic be classified as a laser weapon (+20, -20)?

there is absolutely ample reason to change/nerf the HMG.

My problem is this particular "solution" proposed has been done four times already, and all it did was shift the pendulum the other way.

So why not kick sentinels out of CQC and into the open where they can both excel, and be vulnerable to weapons that can kill them rapidly?

Simple, I want the Gallente Assault Rifle to have a place, and currently the HMG encroaches on the rifle range too much. The Busrt will be a longer range, and the Assault HMG will be an autocannon.

Other things we want to do, especially in PC, and this is mainly coming from Zatara, is to distribute the objectives more, and not let the meta be "If I have the city and the two points in that socket, we either win in a 3 point, or just need to get one more and hold the city with our sentinels"

And put more objectives in the relative open.

Would this anti-shield swarm launcher fall under the same skills?

Also would it for the game logic be classified as a laser weapon (+20, -20)?

Also, Large Basic Frames are being used in PC, that is a conundrum to me...

The amarr heavy frame is used because players that are skilled into the sentinel role can easily skill into the frame and get the 2nd high slot for forge gunning, the minmatar basic heavy frame has a better strafe and sprint speed than the minmatar sentinel and can actually brawl with sentinels sincethe minmatar sentinels resistances are irrelevant in sentinel vs sentinel situations anyway.

Back to serious note, I honestly think using the firing mechanics used by the Alex HMG is the best place to start for the boundless, MH-82 and heavy machinegun.

noo Alex's HMG = officer breach HMG

I never said anything about changing the gastun.

That one can have the damage per round dropped and the range pushed out for slightly higher DPS in exchange for eating the ammo much faster.

Have you considered that the HMG is simply in massive usage due to the fact that PC map design heavily favors it because every PC battle is a cargo hub where they are the strongest? Heavies on, say, a production facility, typically get wrecked because they are being peppered from everywhere in the open and can't fire back.

As far as pub data would go, its another simple reason. Most people play Domination, where a bunch of people are typically concentrated in one area around a single objective. That is the definition of HMG heaven.

So it seems to me that the weapon itself isn't problematic. Rather, your maps and your overall design around them is problematic. It also doesn't help that current game mechanics allow the fatmen to spawn right next to the action, where again they are strongest. Extreme force projection for a unit who's largest downside is a lack of mobility is simply a bad game design choice. It wasn't your choice, of course, but there it is.

Gimp the HMG any further however, and you're going to have a suit that only does as much appliable damage as one of the rifles but with no mobility, crippled scans, no ability to chase down an enemy, can't be used to really damage enemies behind partial cover unlike rifles, etc etc etc.

Overall, it'll be just a bad weapon. Imo, you need to revamp force projection. Then you're going to find fewer people willing to use the heavy suit as they would actually have to move through exposed areas at a slow pace before they get to be effective.

Ditch uplinks from the game, force people to use mobile CRU's. Put some actual tactical play back into the game rather than make it super-whack-a-mole with the uplinks.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with Sota pop. He said the same thing you just said and I asked:"So what am I, as an assault, supposed to do in a PC match? " his answer was" stay outside of the city or camp roofs". This is BS to me!

An assault is supposed to be assaulting points, not only outsider points. Jade you are a great PC sentinel, tell everyone here, what is the main force used to assault points in the city in any PC: assaults or sentinels?

Sentinels role should be to defend points but they ve been since 1.8 also the greatest pushing resource for every team.

But why are we even talking? Just take a look at the numbers!

Also, Large Basic Frames are being used in PC, that is a conundrum to me...