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CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 3761	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:12:00 - [1] - Quote An idea I had was to show LP standings as a forum tag. If anyone is interested in helping me make a cool lore case, please reply to this thread like this: "Standing" - "Honorary Title" Gallente 10 General 9 Lord Marshall ... ... Caldari 10 Chancellor Minmatar 10 Warlord Amarr 10 High Priest etc. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2121	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:20:00 - [2] - Quote Honestly, that alone would get me doing a lot more FW. Would it only be the highest standing that shows up on the tag? I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 3763	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:24:00 - [3] - Quote Spademan wrote: Honestly, that alone would get me doing a lot more FW. Would it only be the highest standing that shows up on the tag? Or highest lifetime achieved, but only one race "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 64	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:32:00 - [4] - Quote I like this idea. It would mean more reward in FW instead of just trolling people
Silas Swakhammer GamersForChrist 444	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:32:00 - [5] - Quote Well, here's the rankings from EVE's FW stuff: MINMATAR 10 - Valklear General 9 - Matar Colonel 8 - Voshud Major 7 - Talon Commander 6 - Blade Commander 5 - Lance Commander 4 - Venge Captain 3 - Spear Lieutenant 2 - Spike Lieutenant 1 - Nation Warrior AMARR 10 - Divine Commodore 9 - Legatus Commodore 8 - Tribunus Colonel 7 - Imperator Commander 6 - Marshal Commander 5 - Imperial Major 4 - Arch Lieutenant 3 - Cardinal Lieutenant 2 - Templar Lieutenant 1 - Paladin Crusader GALLENTE 10 - Luminaire General 9 - Lieutenant General 8 - Major General 7 - Vice Commander 6 - Aegis Commander 5 - Shield Commander 4 - Lieutenant Sentinel 3 - Guardian Lieutenant 2 - Defender Lieutenant 1 - Federation Minuteman CALDARI 10 - Brigadier General 9 - Strike Commander 8 - Wing Commander 7 - Colonel 6 - Lieutenant Colonel 5 - Major 4 - Captain 3 - First Lieutenant 2 - Second Lieutenant 1 - Protectorate Ensign Pineapples on pizza.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11305	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:41:00 - [6] - Quote Loving this Amarr 01 Knight 03 Paladin 05 Vanguard 07 Anointed sword 09 Imperial crusader 10 Imperial reclaimer Minmatar 01 Warrior 03 Warrior mystic 05 Nomad spear 07 Tribal shaman 09 War chief 10 Matar warlord Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6415	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:42:00 - [7] - Quote Silas Swakhammer wrote: Well, here's the rankings from EVE's FW stuff: MINMATAR 10 - Valklear General 9 - Matar Colonel 8 - Voshud Major 7 - Talon Commander 6 - Blade Commander 5 - Lance Commander 4 - Venge Captain 3 - Spear Lieutenant 2 - Spike Lieutenant 1 - Nation Warrior AMARR 10 - Divine Commodore 9 - Legatus Commodore 8 - Tribunus Colonel 7 - Imperator Commander 6 - Marshal Commander 5 - Imperial Major 4 - Arch Lieutenant 3 - Cardinal Lieutenant 2 - Templar Lieutenant 1 - Paladin Crusader GALLENTE 10 - Luminaire General 9 - Lieutenant General 8 - Major General 7 - Vice Commander 6 - Aegis Commander 5 - Shield Commander 4 - Lieutenant Sentinel 3 - Guardian Lieutenant 2 - Defender Lieutenant 1 - Federation Minuteman CALDARI 10 - Brigadier General 9 - Strike Commander 8 - Wing Commander 7 - Colonel 6 - Lieutenant Colonel 5 - Major 4 - Captain 3 - First Lieutenant 2 - Second Lieutenant 1 - Protectorate Ensign You just copied off the EVE rankings. Go home. Just noticed you said it in the OP. Maybe I should go home... see you space cowboy...
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6202	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:44:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: An idea I had was to show LP standings as a forum tag. If anyone is interested in helping me make a cool lore case, please reply to this thread like this: "Standing" - "Honorary Title" Gallente 10 General 9 Lord Marshall ... ... Caldari 10 Chancellor Minmatar 10 Warlord Amarr 10 High Priest etc. Largely off topic but what's the plausibility of having a high enough title 'unlocking' access to the Aurum suits like those found in the [Faction] Combat Packs..? I wouldn't mind being able to just drop some Aurum on the 'Federal Marine' GK.0 vanity suit instead of having to dish out a whole $10 on the entire pack. Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6202	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:45:00 - [9] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: You just copied off the EVE rankings. Go home. He -SAID- that it was the rankings from Eve Online O.o;;; Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11306	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:54:00 - [10] - Quote Caldari 01 Dead inside 03 Wage slave 05 Corporate drone 07 State war executor 09 Senior executive war director 10 The 1% Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+

I-Shayz-I I----------I 4027	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:59:00 - [11] - Quote I don't play FW that much But this is a great way to get people like me to be more interested in it. Not being able to change your profile picture would be kinda weird for some people though... 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6417	Posted - 2014.07.09 23:30:00 - [12] - Quote I can't speak for other Races because I'm most familiar with the Gallente but for them I'd say: Gallente: Level 1 Federal Marine; Militiaman Level 2 Federal Marine; Proximity Soldier Level 3 Federal Marine; Field Soldier Level 4 Federal Marine; Specialist Level 5 Federal Marine; Agent Level 6 Federal Marine; Corporal Level 7 Federal Marine; Sergeant Level 8 Federal Marine; Lieutenant Level 9 Federal Marine; Captain Level 10 Federal Marine; Federal Marshal see you space cowboy...
Benjamin Ciscko The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2452	Posted - 2014.07.09 23:34:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wouldn't like me very much :( but great Idea. Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
MINA Longstrike 992	Posted - 2014.07.09 23:45:00 - [14] - Quote When questioned about what the various empires would call their mercenaries months ago, I believe the community came up with the fact that in eve Minmatar naming schemes are done based off of norse mythology, Gallente after Greek, Caldari after animals/Japanese myth, and amarr after religious stuff / knightly orders. Basing it off the concept of 'immortals' in each stated thema, I'll toss these out. Level 10 Minmatar - Einherjiar Level 10 Gallente - Elysian or Hecatonchires Level 10 Caldari - Rasetsu (it's kind of migrated from indian culture, but they're ultra-violent deathfeeder type things, unbound by karmic cycle - we're looking at the Buddhist incarnation primarily) Level 10 Amarr - (I'm kind of stumped on this, I want to go with Empyrean, Archon, or Sefrim) The point I'd like to make is to separate them from military titles, Immortal mercenaries are creatures of practically mythic might - warriors without peer and we should fall somewhere outside of typical military foundations. We're called in when nothing else will do, when it would be suicide for anyone else to even try - and then we go and achieve the impossible. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 3791	Posted - 2014.07.09 23:53:00 - [15] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: When questioned about what the various empires would call their mercenaries months ago, I believe the community came up with the fact that in eve Minmatar naming schemes are done based off of norse mythology, Gallente after Greek, Caldari after animals/Japanese myth, and amarr after religious stuff / knightly orders. Basing it off the concept of 'immortals' in each stated thema, I'll toss these out. Level 10 Minmatar - Einherjiar Level 10 Gallente - Elysian or Hecatonchires Level 10 Caldari - Rasetsu (it's kind of migrated from indian culture, but they're ultra-violent deathfeeder type things, unbound by karmic cycle - we're looking at the Buddhist incarnation primarily) Level 10 Amarr - (I'm kind of stumped on this, I want to go with Empyrean, Archon, or Sefrim) The point I'd like to make is to separate them from military titles, Immortal mercenaries are creatures of practically mythic might - warriors without peer and we should fall somewhere outside of typical military foundations. We're called in when nothing else will do, when it would be suicide for anyone else to even try - and then we go and achieve the impossible. sounds cool, I am also working on the side on properly naming the racial and the role, inspired by Kagehoshi's old thread i.e. Amarr Sentinel = Dreadnought, Minmatar Logi - Shaman, those kinds of lines. It would be nice to have a cool consistent reference. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11313	Posted - 2014.07.09 23:58:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: When questioned about what the various empires would call their mercenaries months ago, I believe the community came up with the fact that in eve Minmatar naming schemes are done based off of norse mythology, Gallente after Greek, Caldari after animals/Japanese myth, and amarr after religious stuff / knightly orders. Basing it off the concept of 'immortals' in each stated thema, I'll toss these out. Level 10 Minmatar - Einherjiar Level 10 Gallente - Elysian or Hecatonchires Level 10 Caldari - Rasetsu (it's kind of migrated from indian culture, but they're ultra-violent deathfeeder type things, unbound by karmic cycle - we're looking at the Buddhist incarnation primarily) Level 10 Amarr - (I'm kind of stumped on this, I want to go with Empyrean, Archon, or Sefrim) The point I'd like to make is to separate them from military titles, Immortal mercenaries are creatures of practically mythic might - warriors without peer and we should fall somewhere outside of typical military foundations. We're called in when nothing else will do, when it would be suicide for anyone else to even try - and then we go and achieve the impossible. sounds cool, I am also working on the side on properly naming the racial and the role, inspired by Kagehoshi's old thread i.e. Amarr Sentinel = Dreadnought, Minmatar Logi - Shaman, those kinds of lines. It would be nice to have a cool consistent reference. Wan't my thread, I just contributed to it. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11728	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:00:00 - [17] - Quote Imperial Guard 1- Initiate or Disciple 2- Guardsman or Militae 3- Guardian 4- Paladin 5- Exalted Paladin 6- Legate 7- Templar 8- Templar Captain 9- Templar Imperator 10- Divine Captain of the Imperial Guard or Scutariorum Imperatrix (Means Bodyguard of the Empress) "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11728	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:01:00 - [18] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: When questioned about what the various empires would call their mercenaries months ago, I believe the community came up with the fact that in eve Minmatar naming schemes are done based off of norse mythology, Gallente after Greek, Caldari after animals/Japanese myth, and amarr after religious stuff / knightly orders. Basing it off the concept of 'immortals' in each stated thema, I'll toss these out. Level 10 Minmatar - Einherjiar Level 10 Gallente - Elysian or Hecatonchires Level 10 Caldari - Rasetsu (it's kind of migrated from indian culture, but they're ultra-violent deathfeeder type things, unbound by karmic cycle - we're looking at the Buddhist incarnation primarily) Level 10 Amarr - (I'm kind of stumped on this, I want to go with Empyrean, Archon, or Sefrim) The point I'd like to make is to separate them from military titles, Immortal mercenaries are creatures of practically mythic might - warriors without peer and we should fall somewhere outside of typical military foundations. We're called in when nothing else will do, when it would be suicide for anyone else to even try - and then we go and achieve the impossible. You well know MINA that to call oneself a Sef would be tantamount to blasphemy. "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3526	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:05:00 - [19] - Quote I'd definitely run FW non-stop for this :D But on a side note can you add the rest of the suits to the FW market. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
MINA Longstrike 992	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:07:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: When questioned about what the various empires would call their mercenaries months ago, I believe the community came up with the fact that in eve Minmatar naming schemes are done based off of norse mythology, Gallente after Greek, Caldari after animals/Japanese myth, and amarr after religious stuff / knightly orders. Basing it off the concept of 'immortals' in each stated thema, I'll toss these out. Level 10 Minmatar - Einherjiar Level 10 Gallente - Elysian or Hecatonchires Level 10 Caldari - Rasetsu (it's kind of migrated from indian culture, but they're ultra-violent deathfeeder type things, unbound by karmic cycle - we're looking at the Buddhist incarnation primarily) Level 10 Amarr - (I'm kind of stumped on this, I want to go with Empyrean, Archon, or Sefrim) The point I'd like to make is to separate them from military titles, Immortal mercenaries are creatures of practically mythic might - warriors without peer and we should fall somewhere outside of typical military foundations. We're called in when nothing else will do, when it would be suicide for anyone else to even try - and then we go and achieve the impossible. You well know MINA that to call oneself a Sef would be tantamount to blasphemy. that's why I was a little stumped. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11314	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:26:00 - [21] - Quote Updated my Amarr/Minmatar list Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11729	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:35:00 - [22] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Loving this Imperial reclaimer vs Valkear elder warlord Lol there's a big difference between how impressive sounding the two are don't you think? "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11314	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:39:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Loving this Imperial reclaimer vs Valkear elder warlord Lol there's a big difference between how impressive sounding the two are don't you think? I think I like your Amarr standing lv 10 suggestions more than mine. Scutariorum Imperatrix sounds appropriately fancy, though not sure why an empress of a bodyguard would be on a battlefield light-years away from her. You should come up with something equally fancy and latin. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6424	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:47:00 - [24] - Quote I'm just hoping these names don't sound too pretentious...which I see the ship has already sailed on that note. see you space cowboy...
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11316	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:49:00 - [25] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I'm just hoping these names don't sound too pretentious...which I see the ship has already sailed on that note. The more grandiose, bombastic, and ostentatious the better. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1510	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:54:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: An idea I had was to show LP standings as a forum tag. If anyone is interested in helping me make a cool lore case, please reply to this thread like this: How would this look if I had standings with multiple groups? Could I be an Imperial Templar and a Corporate Wage Slave? Fun > Realism
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5307	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:55:00 - [27] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Caldari 01 Dead inside 03 Wage slave 05 Corporate drone 07 State war executor 09 Senior executive war director 10 The 1% No, The One Percent would be the Clusterfuck Coalition. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 996	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:58:00 - [28] - Quote Instead of it showing whatever you had the highest of, we should be able to choose in the "settings" tab near the corp/alliance tag settings. This would mean that people who may play less for a certain race due to whatever reason can still show off their standings. For example, I know a few people I play with are Caldari loyalists however, due to there being less of a war effort for Caldari they could very likely have higher Amarr standings. This is a very cool idea though, it'll give me a reason to show off Amarr standings The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 271	Posted - 2014.07.10 01:46:00 - [29] - Quote So here's me attempting to sell my list of easy to digest Caldari ranks while folding in ancient Bushido tradition, corporate jargon, and napanii conjugation every now and again. I) Shaatei (Lowest ranking member. IE "Ensign Ricky.") II) Nit+ìhei (Equal to a Private) III) Goch+ì (Corporal) IV) Guns+ì (Sergeant) V) S+ìch+ì (Sergeant Major) VI) Chuigun (Lieutenant) VII) Taiikugun (Captain) VIII) Sh+ìsa (Major) IX) Taisa (Colonel) X) Taish+ì (General) Above that would be Dai-Gensui but that would have to be a Grand Marshal on par with a commander-in-chief. I assumed that a typical hired grunt wouldn't be able to ever reach that level without deep corporate ties and sponsorship and is probably better left to NPCs who operate the Peacekeepers themselves. (And frankly it conflicts with the already preexisting napanii/caldari word for forget, so it would clash with pre-existing lore.) Now if you need to drop the lines over the Os to make it more practical that would be gucci, but I assure you there is a method to all of this madness. Certain traditional ranks have been modified to be one word based from two-word rankings used in Japan during the industrial era. I figure that gives it a nice fusion between Nordic and Asiatic syntax, while at the higher echlons like Shosa are shortened since the term used for 'officer' is implied. Before anyone asks: Yes, I post in the IGS. Yes, I have a lot of free time. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5307	Posted - 2014.07.10 01:47:00 - [30] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: So here's me attempting to sell my list of easy to digest Caldari ranks while folding in ancient Bushido tradition, corporate jargon, and napanii conjugation every now and again. I) Shaatei (Lowest ranking member. IE "Ensign Ricky.") II) Nit+ìhei (Equal to a Private) III) Goch+ì (Corporal) IV) Guns+ì (Sergeant) V) S+ìch+ì (Sergeant Major) VI) Chuigun (Lieutenant) VII) Taiikugun (Captain) VIII) Sh+ìsa (Major) IX) Taisa (Colonel) X) Taish+ì (General) Above that would be Dai-Gensui but that would have to be a Grand Marshal on par with a commander-in-chief. I assumed that a typical hired grunt wouldn't be able to ever reach that level without deep corporate ties and sponsorship and is probably better left to NPCs who operate the Peacekeepers themselves. (And frankly it conflicts with the already preexisting napanii/caldari word for forget, so it would clash with pre-existing lore.) Now if you need to drop the lines over the Os to make it more practical that would be gucci, but I assure you there is a method to all of this madness. Certain traditional ranks have been modified to be one word based from two-word rankings used in Japan during the industrial era. I figure that gives it a nice fusion between Nordic and Asiatic syntax, while at the higher echlons like Shosa are shortened since the term used for 'officer' is implied. Before anyone asks: Yes, I post in the IGS. Yes, I have a lot of free time. Good ****. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector

Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6206	Posted - 2014.07.10 01:47:00 - [31] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: So here's me attempting to sell my list of easy to digest Caldari ranks while folding in ancient Bushido tradition, corporate jargon, and napanii conjugation every now and again. I) Shaatei (Lowest ranking member. IE "Ensign Ricky.") II) Nit+ìhei (Equal to a Private) III) Goch+ì (Corporal) IV) Guns+ì (Sergeant) V) S+ìch+ì (Sergeant Major) VI) Chuigun (Lieutenant) VII) Taiikugun (Captain) VIII) Sh+ìsa (Major) IX) Taisa (Colonel) X) Taish+ì (General) Above that would be Dai-Gensui but that would have to be a Grand Marshal on par with a commander-in-chief. I assumed that a typical hired grunt wouldn't be able to ever reach that level without deep corporate ties and sponsorship and is probably better left to NPCs who operate the Peacekeepers themselves. (And frankly it conflicts with the already preexisting napanii/caldari word for forget, so it would clash with pre-existing lore.) Now if you need to drop the lines over the Os to make it more practical that would be gucci, but I assure you there is a method to all of this madness. Certain traditional ranks have been modified to be one word based from two-word rankings used in Japan during the industrial era. I figure that gives it a nice fusion between Nordic and Asiatic syntax, while at the higher echlons like Shosa are shortened since the term used for 'officer' is implied. Before anyone asks: Yes, I post in the IGS. Yes, I have a lot of free time. S'cool, but if I'm not familiar with the ranks I'm not going to know by looking how dedicated that person is =P Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 272	Posted - 2014.07.10 01:56:00 - [32] - Quote By all means I could make a much more practical list, but I needed to at least try to make something super-duper lore-friendly that could one day be considered canon. A merc can dream!~ *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11733	Posted - 2014.07.10 02:04:00 - [33] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: By all means I could make a much more practical list, but I needed to at least try to make something super-duper lore-friendly that could one day be considered canon. A merc can dream!~ ITS GALM! "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11733	Posted - 2014.07.10 02:08:00 - [34] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: True Adamance wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Loving this Imperial reclaimer vs Valkear elder warlord Lol there's a big difference between how impressive sounding the two are don't you think? I think I like your Amarr standing lv 10 suggestions more than mine. Scutariorum Imperatrix sounds appropriately fancy, though not sure why an empress of a bodyguard would be on a battlefield light-years away from her. You should come up with something equally fancy and latin. EDIT: made the Amarr one High imperial reclaimer to make it more impressive, the Minmatar one was more impressive so I think now they're pretty even. Tribunus Imperii roughly means High Captain of the Empire "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 274	Posted - 2014.07.10 02:08:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Galm Fae wrote: By all means I could make a much more practical list, but I needed to at least try to make something super-duper lore-friendly that could one day be considered canon. A merc can dream!~ ITS GALM! Who!? Where? Me? Oh! Good to see you again too! *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11335	Posted - 2014.07.10 09:33:00 - [36] - Quote Why is this fun topic not more popular? Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 381	Posted - 2014.07.10 10:50:00 - [37] - Quote gallente 1: ensign. 2: soldier 3: trooper 4:spec ops trooper 5:coporal 6:captain 7:major 8:marshall 9:lord marshall 10: general *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 859	Posted - 2014.07.10 11:03:00 - [38] - Quote If this was carried over to legion I might come back to grab lvl 10. I don't have isk on my character though huehuehuehue. ( was lvl 10 till some blue berry shot my re and killed 5 guys.) We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2402	Posted - 2014.07.10 11:48:00 - [39] - Quote Minmatar should have, "Warlock" title somewhere around level 7-9. But for real, i just want a "Shaman" title somewhere around the board. Suggestion: let us choose our title, LP standing should only unlock new ones. PSN: ogamega I'm not a chef, i'm just a man who likes to cook.
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 829	Posted - 2014.07.10 12:13:00 - [40] - Quote Thank you Rattati, this idea gives hope for the transfer faction standings to Legion. Sorry for bad English =) >>> Legion rdy! <<<

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3864	Posted - 2014.07.10 12:53:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Spademan wrote: Honestly, that alone would get me doing a lot more FW. Would it only be the highest standing that shows up on the tag? Or highest lifetime achieved, but only one race If it is highest lifetime achieved, it should switch if an equal standing is achieved with another faction. They are equal, but the more recently achieved should take precedent. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11345	Posted - 2014.07.10 16:31:00 - [42] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Minmatar should have, "Warlock" title somewhere around level 7-9. But for real, i just want a "Shaman" title somewhere around the board. Suggestion: let us choose our title, LP standing should only unlock new ones. I think you might like my proposed titles, fills your Shaman quota Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15277	Posted - 2014.07.10 16:41:00 - [43] - Quote Good God this is something that'll actually get me interested in FW. Am now in intense debate with Gallente bros over Skype. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10791	Posted - 2014.07.10 16:51:00 - [44] - Quote Gallente: 1 - Sergeant 2 - Sergeant Shooter Person 3 - Master Sergeant Shooter Person 4 - Master Sergeant Shooter Sergeant Person 5 - Sergeant Master Sergeant Shooter Person 6 - Sergeant Sergeant Master Sergeant Shooter Person 7 - Sergeant Shooter Sergeant Important Person of Sergeants 8 - Master Sergeant Shooter Sergeant Important Person of Sergeants Extreme 9 - Sergeant of the Master Sergeants Most Important Person of Extreme Sergeants 10 - Sergeant of the Master Sergeants Most Important Person of Extreme Sergeants to the Max Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Terram Nenokal Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 347	Posted - 2014.07.10 17:21:00 - [45] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Level 7 Federal Marine; Sergeant Once you reach Sergeant Sgt Kirk, stay there.
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 253	Posted - 2014.07.10 17:59:00 - [46] - Quote This would be fantastic. Still, people would very much enjoy added items to the loyalty store. Should I make a separate thread for a spread sheet of that, or would it be okay if I put it in here? From the Clone Wars I came. Here, I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men.- 501st Headstrong.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1268	Posted - 2014.07.10 18:08:00 - [47] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: An idea I had was to show LP standings as a forum tag. If anyone is interested in helping me make a cool lore case, please reply to this thread like this: "Standing" - "Honorary Title" Gallente 10 General 9 Lord Marshall ... ... Caldari 10 Chancellor Minmatar 10 Warlord Amarr 10 High Priest etc. Oh mannn! This would be amazing! Hell Its taken me from day one of FW all this time just to nearly get level 5 minmatar but DAMN I will grind Caldari like there is no tomorrow to get Caldari Titles =D PS - Make them all sound badass! The Struggle is most certainly real. MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!"
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1268	Posted - 2014.07.10 18:09:00 - [48] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Gallente: 1 - Sergeant 2 - Sergeant Shooter Person 3 - Master Sergeant Shooter Person 4 - Master Sergeant Shooter Sergeant Person 5 - Sergeant Master Sergeant Shooter Person 6 - Sergeant Sergeant Master Sergeant Shooter Person 7 - Sergeant Shooter Sergeant Important Person of Sergeants 8 - Master Sergeant Shooter Sergeant Important Person of Sergeants Extreme 9 - Sergeant of the Master Sergeants Most Important Person of Extreme Sergeants 10 - Sergeant of the Master Sergeants Most Important Person of Extreme Sergeants to the Max LMFAO Spot on mate! Well f***ing played! The Struggle is most certainly real. MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!"
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1270	Posted - 2014.07.10 18:12:00 - [49] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Spademan wrote: Honestly, that alone would get me doing a lot more FW. Would it only be the highest standing that shows up on the tag? Or highest lifetime achieved, but only one race Please make it selectable if so as we do have Allies (Caldari + Amarr / Gallente + Minmatar) =D The Struggle is most certainly real. MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!"
Denesian Morenti The Neutral Zone Psychotic Alliance 24	Posted - 2014.07.10 18:23:00 - [50] - Quote Putting in my vote on this! I like my raspberries melted with a side of ice cream.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11354	Posted - 2014.07.10 19:06:00 - [51] - Quote Caldari 01 State ensign 02 Peacekeeper 03 Corporal 04 Sergeant 05 Lieutenant 06 Colonel 07 War director 08 State war director 10 Taisho meritarch executor Gallente 01 Militiaman 02 Milita trooper 03 Guardian 04 Operative 05 Elite operative 06 Special forces 07 Legionnaire 08 Legionnaire prime 09 Federal sentinel 10 Aegis federal marshal Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 274	Posted - 2014.07.10 20:00:00 - [52] - Quote Alright, I've been at it again and here is my idea of how Republic rankings would go. If you can't guess it, it is heavily based off old viking titles. I) Svein Initiate II) Republic Thrall III) Drengr IV) Hersir V) Thegn VI) Sturaesman VII) Alfr VIII) Draugr IX) Einherjar X) Grand Jarl I don't really specialize in Matari at all, I just figured I'd give it a shot. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3549	Posted - 2014.07.10 20:27:00 - [53] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Alright, I've been at it again and here is my idea of how Republic rankings would go. If you can't guess it, it is heavily based off old viking titles. I) Svein Initiate II) Republic Thrall III) Drengr IV) Hersir V) Thegn VI) Sturaesman VII) Alfr VIII) Draugr IX) Einherjar X) Grand Jarl I don't really specialize in Matari at all, I just figured I'd give it a shot. 8th is just another way to say zombie. Now why would you want to be a zombie? Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt! Changes to the A-logi is the embodiment ofCCPLogic
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 275	Posted - 2014.07.10 20:35:00 - [54] - Quote Actually, the literal translation is "again-walker." They are described as: ""The will appears to be strong, strong enough to draw the hugr [animate will] back to one's body. These reanimated individuals were known as draugar. However, though the dead might live again, they could also die again. Draugar die a "second death" as Chester Gould calls it, when their bodies decay, are burned, dismembered or otherwise destroyed." If that isn't a good parallel to a life as a cloned soldier, I don't know what is. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 137	Posted - 2014.07.10 20:41:00 - [55] - Quote Just want to say, at the moment I don't bother with factional at all. these are a great incentive along with the lp boost coming along but we do need the gaps filling in the lp store, but I would like to start to find fw worth playing so please keep up the attention for now. thanks I'd also just like to suggest any chance of getting other game modes included? for example if a large area of space is captured it would make sense if their enemies would start to "ambush" them. (on a side note, probably not a great idea but in ambush oms.. how about only attackers get a vehicle maybe two? on account of it being an ambush. thoughts?)
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3549	Posted - 2014.07.10 20:57:00 - [56] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Actually, the literal translation is "again-walker." They are described as: ""The will appears to be strong, strong enough to draw the hugr [animate will] back to one's body. These reanimated individuals were known as draugar. However, though the dead might live again, they could also die again. Draugar die a "second death" as Chester Gould calls it, when their bodies decay, are burned, dismembered or otherwise destroyed." If that isn't a good parallel to a life as a cloned soldier, I don't know what is. But we come back... forever. But yeah I see what you mean. Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt! Changes to the A-logi is the embodiment ofCCPLogic
MINA Longstrike 1001	Posted - 2014.07.10 21:08:00 - [57] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Alright, I've been at it again and here is my idea of how Republic rankings would go. If you can't guess it, it is heavily based off old viking titles. I) Svein Initiate II) Republic Thrall III) Drengr IV) Hersir V) Thegn VI) Sturaesman VII) Alfr VIII) Draugr IX) Einherjar X) Grand Jarl I don't really specialize in Matari at all, I just figured I'd give it a shot. I'd swap some of them, with Einherjiar taking 10th spot, Draugr being moved down a bit further and Grand Jarl being just below Einherjiar. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15282	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:07:00 - [58] - Quote I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10806	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:07:00 - [59] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine Gallentean cat reporting in for approval. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6456	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:11:00 - [60] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine EDIT: I'm not sure how this tagging system will work. Would it be possible to get a dropdown list of all the titles you have in the forum 'settings' menu, so you can choose which one you want from the ones you have unlocked? It seems like a good way to resolve inter-racial title conflicts and also allow people to not show tags if they don't want to (for example, if they played FW for only a moment and didn't really feel like being called X rank). Gallente Sgt Kirk approves of the Ranking see you space cowboy...

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11758	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:14:00 - [61] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine Gallentean cat reporting in for approval. 10 - Luminaire ***** (oh is that what we call women in Caille?) 9 - Lion Captain 8 - Lynx Commander 7 - Aegis Bobcat 6 - Shield Puma 5 - Kitten Officer 4 - Guardian Kitty 3 - Vanguard Tabby 2 - Federal Ocelot 1 - Federal Tom Each level of standing will be rewarded with 10 cans of Fancy Feast or your choosing. "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10806	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:18:00 - [62] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine Gallentean cat reporting in for approval. 10 - Luminaire ***** (oh is that what we call women in Caille?) 9 - Lion Captain 8 - Lynx Commander 7 - Aegis Bobcat 6 - Shield Puma 5 - Kitten Officer 4 - Guardian Kitty 3 - Vanguard Tabby 2 - Federal Ocelot 1 - Federal Tom Each level of standing will be rewarded with 10 cans of Fancy Feast or your choosing. This is... perfection. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15284	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:19:00 - [63] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine Gallentean cat reporting in for approval. 10 - Luminaire ***** (oh is that what we call women in Caille?) 9 - Lion Captain 8 - Lynx Commander 7 - Aegis Bobcat 6 - Shield Puma 5 - Kitten Officer 4 - Guardian Kitty 3 - Vanguard Tabby 2 - Federal Ocelot 1 - Federal Tom Each level of standing will be rewarded with 10 cans of Fancy Feast or your choosing. slow clap Out of curiosity, what do you think of the other proposed ranks? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11758	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:34:00 - [64] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine Gallentean cat reporting in for approval. 10 - Luminaire ***** (oh is that what we call women in Caille?) 9 - Lion Captain 8 - Lynx Commander 7 - Aegis Bobcat 6 - Shield Puma 5 - Kitten Officer 4 - Guardian Kitty 3 - Vanguard Tabby 2 - Federal Ocelot 1 - Federal Tom Each level of standing will be rewarded with 10 cans of Fancy Feast or your choosing. slow clap Out of curiosity, what do you think of the other proposed ranks? Good very solid. Do the EVE side ranks refer to a more defensive vibe to the titles? "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2413	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:37:00 - [65] - Quote Consider angelic hierarchy for the Amarr. Wiki link PSN: ogamega I'm not a chef, i'm just a man who likes to cook.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 276	Posted - 2014.07.10 23:35:00 - [66] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Alright, I've been at it again and here is my idea of how Republic rankings would go. If you can't guess it, it is heavily based off old viking titles. I) Svein Initiate II) Republic Thrall III) Drengr IV) Hersir V) Thegn VI) Sturaesman VII) Alfr VIII) Draugr IX) Einherjar X) Grand Jarl I don't really specialize in Matari at all, I just figured I'd give it a shot. I'd swap some of them, with Einherjiar taking 10th spot, Draugr being moved down a bit further and Grand Jarl being just below Einherjiar. edit, just read your description of draugr, Jarl should be below that. Sounds like a plan. With this in mind: 1) Svein Initiate 2) Republic Thrall 3) Draugr 4) Drengr 5) Hersir 6) Thegn 7) Sturaesman 8) Alfr 9) Grand Jarl 10) Sanmatar Einherjar *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
MINA Longstrike 1004	Posted - 2014.07.11 00:45:00 - [67] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I'd swap some of them, with Einherjiar taking 10th spot, Draugr being moved down a bit further and Grand Jarl being just below Einherjiar. edit, just read your description of draugr, Jarl should be below that. Sounds like a plan. With this in mind: 1) Svein Initiate 2) Republic Thrall 3) Draugr 4) Drengr 5) Hersir 6) Thegn 7) Sturaesman 8) Alfr 9) Grand Jarl 10) Sanmatar Einherjar The Sanmatar part is optional, I just like Horned Wolf's ideas. EDIT: On the other hand, maybe thrall should be below Svein and Alfr should be after Draugr. That way the more 'official' titles remain close to the top of the chain of command. I'm not sure, I'm a bit lost on this one. 1)Initiate 2)Thrall 3)Drengr* 4)Alfr* 5)Hersir* 6)Sturaesman 7)Thegn 8)Jarl 9)Draugr 10)Einherjiar You start as 'mortal' and as you move up the ranks you move closer and closer to being a being of almost mythic significance to the republic, until you're a being whose 'life essence' is enough to reanimate the body again, and through the power of mimetic mutation from tribal retellings these wouldn't be the cursed dead, but more like the champions of kings sent to rest with them and protect them even in death (stealing a little bit from some of the Egyptian mummification ideas)... Then after that the next rank is literally the shining souls of republic heros, unbound by death, and worthy of standing at the side of whatever gods the republic might have, even in the face of the apocalypse. I couldn't really find direct translations of what the asterisk marked ones meant so I kind of threw them back in, in a random order. I'd really like to stay away from military rankings for all of the various races (aside from maybe in the lower tiers) and as you move up in ranking the various races treat you more like you're some sort of being of myth. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 276	Posted - 2014.07.11 00:47:00 - [68] - Quote I like that. A lot! *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 276	Posted - 2014.07.11 01:19:00 - [69] - Quote Ah, reading back over this I just noticed your footnotes. Drengr are consider made members of Nordic society that have proven themselves battle-ready. Above that are the Hersir, who issue orders to fellow raiders much like a sergeant. Those two should be placed above thrall but below sturaesman. Alfr is one I would consider replace for another. It means Elf, which seems somewhat fitting for a soldier that can live hundreds of years... I just feel like there is a better alternative. Maybe Grendel or Beowulf. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
MINA Longstrike 1004	Posted - 2014.07.11 01:28:00 - [70] - Quote So we'll move alfr up to just below draugr, and shuffle the others down appropriately. so it would look like 1)Initiate 2)Thrall 3)Drengr 4)Hersir 5)Sturaesman 6)Thegn 7)Jarl 8)Alfr 9)Draugr 10)Einherjiar With the possibility of Alfr being swapped out for another more appropriate word. Making the first 7 ranks 'mortals' although of high importance once they get to tier 5-7, and then the last 3 being things that are almost explicitly supernatural. I think this is a relatively good format to follow for all of the various races, though I'm still of the opinion that we should try to stay away from traditional military ranks like 'sergeant' or 'captain' as those are relatively uninspired - though I do like most of what you've suggested for the caldari. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 277	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:12:00 - [71] - Quote Agreed. I'll give it a shot to produce an alternate Peacekeeper Hierarchy. 1) Shaatei (Lowest Ranking Member) 2) Ashigaru (Foot soldiers of Feudal Japan) 3) Shogun (Ancient Warlords 4) Daimyo (Landowning Noble) 5) R+ìj+½ (Highest Ranking in their group) 6) Kugy+ì (Most powerful men in a court) 7) Ry+½jin (Dragon Lord) 8) Baku (A dream eating beast. Also means 'strike' in Napanii.) 9) Oni (The ogre spirit of a dead shogun) 10) Raij+½ (A thunder beast that falls to Earth in a ball of Lighting) I figure a majority of these words would have been reformatted by the Caldari as ancient Rataa loanwords and changed meaning slightly, just as 'loki' is synonymous with 'freedom' to the Minmatar. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
Killar-12 The Exemplars Top Men. 2926	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:13:00 - [72] - Quote Could while the subject of FW is being discussed we talk about Rewards or ISK Costs? or is there another place where this is being discussed? 21-Day EVE Trial
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6462	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:15:00 - [73] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Could while the subject of FW is being discussed we talk about Rewards or ISK Costs? or is there another place where this is being discussed? They already talked about increase ISK payouts by a multiple of 2 or 3 see you space cowboy...
MINA Longstrike 1007	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:22:00 - [74] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Agreed. I'll give it a shot to produce an alternate Peacekeeper Hierarchy. 1) Shaatei (Lowest Ranking Member) 2) Ashigaru (Foot soldiers of Feudal Japan) 3) Shogun (Ancient Warlords 4) Daimyo (Landowning Noble) 5) R+ìj+½ (Highest Ranking in their group) 6) Kugy+ì (Most powerful men in a court) 7) Ry+½jin (Dragon Lord) 8) Baku (A dream eating beast. Also means 'strike' in Napanii.) 9) Rasetsu 10) Raij+½ (A thunder beast that falls to Earth in a ball of Lighting) I figure a majority of these words would have been reformatted by the Caldari as ancient Rataa loanwords and changed meaning slightly, just as 'loki' is synonymous with 'freedom' to the Minmatar. Out of everything here, I'd like to keep Raiju, considering how our mercenaries enter a warzone. Where it should rank is anyone's guess. In terms of not having a "greater good" I am going to have to challenge you on that one. Almost all of the Heth regime was centered on increasing productivity for the State at the cost of personal freedom. There are plenty of examples were the meritocratic ideal has been left on the wayside for the good of the Caldari as a whole. Oh no, I understand what you mean by greater good, I explained it poorly, I'd just like to state that it's about the greater good for the caldari. It's not about the greater good for the caldari + minmatar or Cal + Amarr. It's not really stuff that's done pro bono, it's done because our interests align. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 277	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:25:00 - [75] - Quote Ah, I see what you mean now. I'm not going to lie, this thread is starting to fry my brain a little bit. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 833	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:33:00 - [76] - Quote to all races: 1-5 %racename noob 6-9 %racename money looser 10 %racename nolifer Sorry for bad English =) >>> Legion rdy! <<<
MINA Longstrike 1007	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:38:00 - [77] - Quote 1) Shaatei (Lowest Ranking Member) 2) Ashigaru (Foot soldiers of Feudal Japan) 3) Kirjuun (caldari word equivalent of 'comrade') 4) Shogun (Ancient Warlords 5) Daimyo (Landowning Noble) 6) R+ìj+½ (Highest Ranking in their group) 7) Kugy+ì (Most powerful men in a court) 8) Baku (A dream eating beast. Also means 'strike' in Napanii.) 9) Raij+½ (A thunder beast that falls to Earth in a ball of Lighting) 10) Rasetsu Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Killar-12 The Exemplars Top Men. 2926	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:40:00 - [78] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Could while the subject of FW is being discussed we talk about Rewards or ISK Costs? or is there another place where this is being discussed? They already talked about increase ISK payouts by a multiple of 2 or 3 I'd say multiply it by three as well as adjust the prices in FW. kk, just wondering... 21-Day EVE Trial
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1677	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:46:00 - [79] - Quote In case anyone was unaware, EvE has FW ranks as well (though they're not displayed). Perhaps these can serve as some inspiration: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ranks
FEAST FOR crows Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 14	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:54:00 - [80] - Quote I would love a title that shows my dedication to the empress and my god. You Die In The Name Of The Empress *Horizons' Edge*

Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 743	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:59:00 - [81] - Quote Gallente Titles: 10.) twizzletit 9.) numbnut 8.) cobgobbler 7.) douchenozzle 6.) fartbreath 5.) cumdumpster 4.) assclown 3.) jizzmagician 2.) shitbrain 1.) cheesedick GLORY TO THE STATE
MINA Longstrike 1011	Posted - 2014.07.11 03:01:00 - [82] - Quote ^bemusing but I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have passed the censors like that. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 743	Posted - 2014.07.11 03:02:00 - [83] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: ^bemusing but I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have passed the censors like that. Caldari's EWAR capabilities know no bounds... GLORY TO THE STATE
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11782	Posted - 2014.07.11 03:32:00 - [84] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: ^bemusing but I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have passed the censors like that. Caldari's EWAR capabilities know no bounds... I am impressed with that power of Caldari EWAR to be sure...... hehehe silly Gallente.. "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8729	Posted - 2014.07.11 10:04:00 - [85] - Quote Would it then be at all possible to have your title show up when someone views your character sheet in game, and better yet on the kill report when you die so you know what rank your killer was? Also, and this is a stretch, what about having unique portraits for your title? You don't even need one for each title, just every few standings up. Dust is one of the most personal FPS games out there, but everyone is displayed with the same handful of portraits. Amarr are the good guys Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
MINA Longstrike 1012	Posted - 2014.07.11 10:08:00 - [86] - Quote I'd love title to be displayed on killfeed Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Beld Errmon 1769	Posted - 2014.07.11 12:22:00 - [87] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: When questioned about what the various empires would call their mercenaries months ago, I believe the community came up with the fact that in eve Minmatar naming schemes are done based off of norse mythology, Gallente after Greek, Caldari after animals/Japanese myth, and amarr after religious stuff / knightly orders. Basing it off the concept of 'immortals' in each stated thema, I'll toss these out. Level 10 Minmatar - Einherjiar Level 10 Gallente - Elysian or Hecatonchires Level 10 Caldari - Rasetsu (it's kind of migrated from indian culture, but they're ultra-violent deathfeeder type things, unbound by karmic cycle - we're looking at the Buddhist incarnation primarily) Level 10 Amarr - (I'm kind of stumped on this, I want to go with Empyrean, Archon, or Sefrim) The point I'd like to make is to separate them from military titles, Immortal mercenaries are creatures of practically mythic might - warriors without peer and we should fall somewhere outside of typical military foundations. We're called in when nothing else will do, when it would be suicide for anyone else to even try - and then we go and achieve the impossible. anything but hecatonchires, the play that used to use that name was a total.... swearing isn't allowed you get the point. Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
MINA Longstrike 1013	Posted - 2014.07.11 14:53:00 - [88] - Quote It's not based off the play, it's based off of the figure of myth. A hundred handed Titan of incredible might and ferocity that fought against other titans in the name of freedom against tyrrany. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Taskanoss Royal Dominion 0	Posted - 2014.07.11 15:23:00 - [89] - Quote A suggestion, that might be of use would be to have a rank symbol to match the title found in character information.
MINA Longstrike 1013	Posted - 2014.07.12 17:38:00 - [90] - Quote Taskanoss wrote: A suggestion, that might be of use would be to have a rank symbol to match the title found in character information. That might be alright. Any ideas for gallente titles? Stuff like ekdromos or hoplite? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15325	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:01:00 - [91] - Quote I don't really see the need to have a mythical name for the ranking. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
MINA Longstrike 1013	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:40:00 - [92] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I don't really see the need to have a mythical name for the ranking. I don't see why they'd have to be so boringly uninspired as military stuff like 'sergeant', make them interesting. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3746	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:58:00 - [93] - Quote This is the greatest idea since sliced bread, Rattati. If it doesn't happen now that's its out there I will be seriously disappointed! KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: The more grandiose, bombastic, and ostentatious the better. I like how this man thinks. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 297	Posted - 2014.07.12 22:04:00 - [94] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Silas Swakhammer wrote: Well, here's the rankings from EVE's FW stuff: MINMATAR 10 - Valklear General 9 - Matar Colonel 8 - Voshud Major 7 - Talon Commander 6 - Blade Commander 5 - Lance Commander 4 - Venge Captain 3 - Spear Lieutenant 2 - Spike Lieutenant 1 - Nation Warrior AMARR 10 - Divine Commodore 9 - Legatus Commodore 8 - Tribunus Colonel 7 - Imperator Commander 6 - Marshal Commander 5 - Imperial Major 4 - Arch Lieutenant 3 - Cardinal Lieutenant 2 - Templar Lieutenant 1 - Paladin Crusader GALLENTE 10 - Luminaire General 9 - Lieutenant General 8 - Major General 7 - Vice Commander 6 - Aegis Commander 5 - Shield Commander 4 - Lieutenant Sentinel 3 - Guardian Lieutenant 2 - Defender Lieutenant 1 - Federation Minuteman CALDARI 10 - Brigadier General 9 - Strike Commander 8 - Wing Commander 7 - Colonel 6 - Lieutenant Colonel 5 - Major 4 - Captain 3 - First Lieutenant 2 - Second Lieutenant 1 - Protectorate Ensign You just copied off the EVE rankings. Go home. Just noticed you said it in the OP. Maybe I should go home... Eve Side names are good
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11405	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:44:00 - [95] - Quote Luther Mandrix wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Silas Swakhammer wrote: Well, here's the rankings from EVE's FW stuff: MINMATAR 10 - Valklear General 9 - Matar Colonel 8 - Voshud Major 7 - Talon Commander 6 - Blade Commander 5 - Lance Commander 4 - Venge Captain 3 - Spear Lieutenant 2 - Spike Lieutenant 1 - Nation Warrior AMARR 10 - Divine Commodore 9 - Legatus Commodore 8 - Tribunus Colonel 7 - Imperator Commander 6 - Marshal Commander 5 - Imperial Major 4 - Arch Lieutenant 3 - Cardinal Lieutenant 2 - Templar Lieutenant 1 - Paladin Crusader GALLENTE 10 - Luminaire General 9 - Lieutenant General 8 - Major General 7 - Vice Commander 6 - Aegis Commander 5 - Shield Commander 4 - Lieutenant Sentinel 3 - Guardian Lieutenant 2 - Defender Lieutenant 1 - Federation Minuteman CALDARI 10 - Brigadier General 9 - Strike Commander 8 - Wing Commander 7 - Colonel 6 - Lieutenant Colonel 5 - Major 4 - Captain 3 - First Lieutenant 2 - Second Lieutenant 1 - Protectorate Ensign You just copied off the EVE rankings. Go home. Just noticed you said it in the OP. Maybe I should go home... Eve Side names are good Simply copying pilot ranks for mercenaries is lazy. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 676	Posted - 2014.07.15 23:12:00 - [96] - Quote I think this is a fantastic idea. A way to show your standing to others in game would be even better, but this is still a great way to incentivise faction play. Purchase Aurum Today!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3792	Posted - 2014.07.15 23:30:00 - [97] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: True Adamance wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Loving this Imperial reclaimer vs Valkear elder warlord Lol there's a big difference between how impressive sounding the two are don't you think? I think I like your Amarr standing lv 10 suggestions more than mine. Scutariorum Imperatrix sounds appropriately fancy, though not sure why an empress of a bodyguard would be on a battlefield light-years away from her. You should come up with something equally fancy and latin. EDIT: made the Amarr one High imperial reclaimer to make it more impressive, the Minmatar one was more impressive so I think now they're pretty even. EDIT2: Changed the Minmatar one to Valklear Sanmatar Warlord I kinda like most of True's list better, but I gotta admit, High Imperial Reclaimer sounds pretty sweet. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11407	Posted - 2014.07.16 00:03:00 - [98] - Quote Would love to see more players' title lists for Minmatar Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11890	Posted - 2014.07.16 00:18:00 - [99] - Quote Imperial Guard 1- Initiate or Disciple 2- Guardsman or Militae 3- Guardian 4- Paladin 5- Exalted Paladin 6- Legate 7-Templar 8- Templar Imperator 9- Imperial Captain 10- Divine Captain of the Imperial Guard or Scutariorum Imperatrix (Means Bodyguard of the Empress) Lets be honest its the only race that matters...... "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 863	Posted - 2014.07.16 00:21:00 - [100] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Imperial Guard 1- Initiate or Disciple 2- Guardsman or Militae 3- Guardian 4- Paladin 5- Exalted Paladin 6- Legate 7-Templar 8- Templar Imperator 9- Imperial Captain 10- Divine Captain of the Imperial Guard or Scutariorum Imperatrix (Means Bodyguard of the Empress) Lets be honest its the only race that matters...... You wouldn't have your precious Viziam weapons without the Caldari huehuehuehue We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11904	Posted - 2014.07.16 07:12:00 - [101] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: True Adamance wrote: Imperial Guard 1- Initiate or Disciple 2- Guardsman or Militae 3- Guardian 4- Paladin 5- Exalted Paladin 6- Legate 7-Templar 8- Templar Imperator 9- Imperial Captain 10- Divine Captain of the Imperial Guard or Scutariorum Imperatrix (Means Bodyguard of the Empress) Lets be honest its the only race that matters...... You wouldn't have your precious Viziam weapons without the Caldari huehuehuehue You wouldn't even have a precious economy if not for the Empire's numerous stimulus packages..... so if I were you I would not seem so ungrateful. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
The-Errorist SVER True Blood 793	Posted - 2014.07.16 09:27:00 - [102] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Caldari 01 Dead inside 03 Wage slave 05 Corporate drone 07 State war executor 09 Senior executive war director 10 The 1% This made me lol. MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill. http://vimeo.com/93181621
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 228	Posted - 2014.07.16 09:48:00 - [103] - Quote Gallente: 10) Lord Marshall 9) Field Marshall 8) Marshall 7) Commander 6) Captain 5) Lieutenant 4) Sergeant 3) Corporal 2) Lance Corporal 1) Marine or Private Amarr: 10) Massive Shiny Golden Turd 9) Shiny Big Golden Turd 8) Big Golden Turd 7) Shiny Golden Turd 6) Golden Turd 5) Shiniest Turd 4) Shiny Turd 3) Turd 2) Solid Number 2 1) Diaherra Legionhares Unite!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8839	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:08:00 - [104] - Quote So are you guys still interested in this? Amarr are the good guys Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 336	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:14:00 - [105] - Quote Keep it simple... enough of all this "vherokior, molden heath, eldjaerin IV" mumbo jumbo New Eden speak. It might wet the panties of those Eve neckbeards but it doesn't make us Dust playing men too thrilled. Eventually the Dust community is going to nerf itself into nonexistance. Please don't ruin heavies CCP.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6598	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:09:00 - [106] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Keep it simple... enough of all this "vherokior, molden heath, eldjaerin IV" mumbo jumbo New Eden speak. It might wet the panties of those Eve neckbeards but it doesn't make us Dust playing men too thrilled. Perfect example right there. We Gallente dont want that crap in our ranks. see you space cowboy...
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3812	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:13:00 - [107] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Keep it simple... enough of all this "vherokior, molden heath, eldjaerin IV" mumbo jumbo New Eden speak. It might wet the panties of those Eve neckbeards but it doesn't make us Dust playing men too thrilled. Perfect example right there. We Gallente dont want that crap in our ranks. Too bad. That's what you get with "freeeeeedom!" Everyone gets to be part of the Gallente party, right? (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6599	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:20:00 - [108] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Keep it simple... enough of all this "vherokior, molden heath, eldjaerin IV" mumbo jumbo New Eden speak. It might wet the panties of those Eve neckbeards but it doesn't make us Dust playing men too thrilled. Perfect example right there. We Gallente dont want that crap in our ranks. Too bad. That's what you get with "freeeeeedom!" Everyone gets to be part of the Gallente party, right? The Gallente way can be put simply like this. Freedom our way, our else. see you space cowboy...
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3812	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:27:00 - [109] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: The Gallente way can be put simply like this. Freedom our way, our else. Such refreshing honesty from a Gallente! (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 338	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:57:00 - [110] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: The Gallente way can be put simply like this. Freedom our way, our else. Such refreshing honesty from a Gallente! if new eden were anything like the real world, the Amarr would be the only true democracy of new eden and the Caldari would be running their political campaigns for them. Eventually the Dust community is going to nerf itself into nonexistance. Please don't ruin heavies CCP.

Meee One Algintal Core Gallente Federation 916	Posted - 2014.07.19 10:16:00 - [111] - Quote Now if there were a way to combine rank and role into a single title based on the suit you mainly deployed in. Eg Gal lv 10 : general deployment in assault : ravenous general deployment as a logistics : support general deployment as a heavy : defense general Etc. It could even be made even more unique by taking the actions you do into account . logistics that mainly scans: revealing logistics that mainly repairs: triage Etc it could get quite elaborate.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6605	Posted - 2014.07.19 11:35:00 - [112] - Quote Meee One wrote: Now if there were a way to combine rank and role into a single title based on the suit you mainly deployed in. Eg Gal lv 10 : general deployment in assault : ravenous general deployment as a logistics : support general deployment as a heavy : defense general Etc. It could even be made even more unique by taking the actions you do into account . logistics that mainly scans: revealing logistics that mainly repairs: triage Etc it could get quite elaborate. stop all this "General" nonsense. see you space cowboy...
MINA Longstrike 1053	Posted - 2014.07.24 09:12:00 - [113] - Quote Bumping, trying to come up with a gallente list. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Dalmont Legrand RUST 415 RUST415 489	Posted - 2014.07.24 11:46:00 - [114] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: An idea I had was to show LP standings as a forum tag. If anyone is interested in helping me make a cool lore case, please reply to this thread like this: "Standing" - "Honorary Title" Gallente 10 General 9 Lord Marshall ... ... Caldari 10 Chancellor Minmatar 10 Warlord Amarr 10 High Priest etc. Finally somebody read my post from history of Dust Can you update with chosen ideas at least so we can see what can be corrected and appropriate meaning of it is also a go-go. The best is yet to come No longer candidate
Dalmont Legrand RUST 415 RUST415 489	Posted - 2014.07.24 13:29:00 - [115] - Quote "Standing" - "Honorary Title" Amarr 10. Arch Marshal 9. Grand Commodore 8. Prophecy General 7. Legion General 6. Uriam Priest 5. Faith Lord 4. Master Priest 3. Imperial Legate 2. Empire Cleric 1. Faith Knight Gallente 10. Prime Sentinel 9. Avant-Guard General 8. Task Commander 7. Senate Agent 6. Chief Ranger 5. Federal Operative 4. Chief Master 3. Specialist 2. Ensign 1. Federal Cadet Minmatar 10. High Chief Commander 9. Liberty General 8. Chancellor Adjutant 7. Council Advisor 6. Republic Prosecutor 5. Tribal Leader 4. Voluval Guard 3. Marksman 2. Legacy Keeper 1. Freedom Fighter Caldari 10. Executive Commander 9. Vice Commander 8. Head Delegate 7. First Advisor 6. Senior Captain 5. Corporate Constable 4. Protectorate Ensign 3. Peacekeeper 2. Serviceman 1. State Trooper Let the name be related to race background. As well remember distinction between "offices" and "ranks". I might add what I mean by each rank... The best is yet to come No longer candidate
DarthMcFizzle MOOSE-KNUCKLEz CLAN 50	Posted - 2014.07.24 18:51:00 - [116] - Quote ^^ General is pretty lame... Prime Sentinel is much more worth working for (p.s. i will play fw just for this)
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6691	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:19:00 - [117] - Quote CCP DEVs. As you can see, people just like fancy sounding names with meanings they do not really understand. The more lore minded people do not want this. see you space cowboy...
MINA Longstrike 1055	Posted - 2014.07.24 23:26:00 - [118] - Quote Gallente titles. 1) Trophimoi 2) Ekdromoi 3) Homoioi (covered in spartiate link it means 'peers') 4) Sarissophoroi 5) Hoplite 6) Spartiate 7) Somatophylakes I was tempted to replace this with Hetairoi, but that's a bit of a later period thing. 8) Triplotemus 9) Gigas 10) Hekatonkheir More than willing to take suggestions on these, replace some of the name with other things etc, but I like the progression, you start as someone that is essentially adopted into the federation/military, then after a short time you progress to an equal, and eventually an elite, then a warrior of legend and eventually a being of primordial might. Gigas feels a little weak as a title, and I was tempted to use gigantes but it's noted in the article that they weren't necessary larger than other things, just infinitely more ferocious. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Dalmont Legrand RUST 415 RUST415 490	Posted - 2014.07.25 12:43:00 - [119] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: CCP DEVs. As you can see, people just like fancy sounding names with meanings they do not really understand. The more lore minded people do not want this. We can stand with ranks if you want rather than honorary titles as it says, but ranks are not offices as I remind. The best is yet to come No longer candidate
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 3297	Posted - 2014.07.25 13:02:00 - [120] - Quote Love the general idea. Would motivate me to play FW. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley

MINA Longstrike 1063	Posted - 2014.07.26 22:29:00 - [121] - Quote Bamp Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
iKILLu osborne Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 125	Posted - 2014.07.27 00:05:00 - [122] - Quote if you do assign us a factional rank can it show both factions you fight for. i'm lvl 10 cal and lvl 4 amarr and being lvl 10 cal is a rare sight indeed so yeah i would appreciate that being on my character tag "uh guys" "i got to go back to the mcc those 10 ads's made me crap my dropsuit"
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15483	Posted - 2014.07.28 15:18:00 - [123] - Quote Bump because I adore this idea. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15483	Posted - 2014.07.28 15:26:00 - [124] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: slow clap Out of curiosity, what do you think of the other proposed ranks? Good very solid. Do the EVE side ranks refer to a more defensive vibe to the titles? Yep. The Aegis, Guardian, Shield stuff is found in the EVE rankings as well. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 366	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:08:00 - [125] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: An idea I had was to show LP standings as a forum tag. If anyone is interested in helping me make a cool lore case, please reply to this thread like this: "Standing" - "Honorary Title" Gallente 10 General 9 Lord Marshall ... ... Caldari 10 Chancellor Minmatar 10 Warlord Amarr 10 High Priest etc. Use the titles from EVE. For instance, Minmatar has things like Blade Commander (lolol nova knifer commander) and Valklear General. The titles are already laid out for you. All you have to do is have your website team figure out how to put the tags on the forum without breaking the forum. Jaceon Pale-eye. Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG. Unless Mal says no :(
Vordred Knight Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 228	Posted - 2014.07.29 16:12:00 - [126] - Quote Bump cause justice and freedom Markdown:
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 215	Posted - 2014.07.31 21:39:00 - [127] - Quote Bump. any progress on this rattati?
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6837	Posted - 2014.08.01 00:52:00 - [128] - Quote This thread needs more bump and grind see you space cowboy...
MINA Longstrike 1098	Posted - 2014.08.01 01:56:00 - [129] - Quote I am kind of working on amarr names with true adamance. What's your thoughts on the gallente ones posted kirk? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6839	Posted - 2014.08.01 02:17:00 - [130] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I am kind of working on amarr names with true adamance. What's your thoughts on the gallente ones posted kirk? Did you post Gallente ones? Sorry I'm on mobile so I may have missed it. see you space cowboy...

MINA Longstrike 1098	Posted - 2014.08.01 05:21:00 - [131] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I am kind of working on amarr names with true adamance. What's your thoughts on the gallente ones posted kirk? Did you post Gallente ones? Sorry I'm on mobile so I may have missed it. On page 6. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5091	Posted - 2014.08.01 22:45:00 - [132] - Quote I am negotiating with some inhouse people to make this a reality. Don't know yet how possible/feasible this is. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 166	Posted - 2014.08.01 22:47:00 - [133] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I am negotiating with some inhouse people to make this a reality. Don't know yet how possible/feasible this is. We have faith you know how to negotiate well. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
iliel 0uter.Heaven 71	Posted - 2014.08.01 22:48:00 - [134] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I am negotiating with some inhouse people to make this a reality. Don't know yet how possible/feasible this is. This is why you'd be better off as Amarr . . . wouldn't have to negotiate.
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 96	Posted - 2014.08.01 22:49:00 - [135] - Quote Don't you think that's more important to add the Commando / Heavy / scout for EACH race on the LP store than have a title for the faction.... ? And the eHP buff (sorry to have to talk about it here, but there aren't any topic about it any more) you've said you'll tell us (before the patch note) if you make the eHP buff or not for assault... Wait and see. I say it again, it's very important to add all suits in the LP market. Ho yeah Love you Rattati!
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1237	Posted - 2014.08.02 02:26:00 - [136] - Quote Good suggestions guys ...but i would say that the Caldari recommendations are are leaning too far with the purely Japanese based titles. As noted several times by CCP they have some distance northern European tones. Off the top of my head I don't have a lot of good ideas but you could weave in some old Prussian military ranks such as: Jaeger (Huntsman, Light Infantry, Scout) Dragoner (actual rank and ties back to the Templis Dragonaurs to a degree) Hauptman / Rittemeister (Captain of Infantry or Cavalry) Oberst (Colonel) "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12485	Posted - 2014.08.02 02:29:00 - [137] - Quote All said and done while I love FW and its premise....... no title will bring me back to Dust 514's FW when I can be doing so much more in Space for both my corporation and Militia..... "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Vordred Knight Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 240	Posted - 2014.08.02 03:53:00 - [138] - Quote if only i could have these eyes!! Markdown:
MINA Longstrike 1101	Posted - 2014.08.02 04:54:00 - [139] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Good suggestions guys ...but i would say that the Caldari recommendations are are leaning too far with the purely Japanese based titles. As noted several times by CCP they have some distance northern European tones. Off the top of my head I don't have a lot of good ideas but you could weave in some old Prussian military ranks such as: Jaeger (Huntsman, Light Infantry, Scout) Dragoner (actual rank and ties back to the Templis Dragonaurs to a degree) Hauptman / Rittemeister (Captain of Infantry or Cavalry) Oberst (Colonel) I thought the Japanese one was a little bit weak myself, but wasn't too sure on how to improve it, and I have a few ideas for the Amarr one but I'm not entirely sure how to name some of their ranks due to lack of command in the language I'd be working in. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5101	Posted - 2014.08.02 09:18:00 - [140] - Quote Killer's Coys wrote: Don't you think that's more important to add the Commando / Heavy / scout for EACH race on the LP store than have a title for the faction.... ? And the eHP buff (sorry to have to talk about it here, but there aren't any topic about it any more) you've said you'll tell us (before the patch note) if you make the eHP buff or not for assault... Wait and see. I say it again, it's very important to add all suits in the LP market. Not the same people who do web dev and dust dev. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo 135	Posted - 2014.08.02 09:23:00 - [141] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Killer's Coys wrote: Don't you think that's more important to add the Commando / Heavy / scout for EACH race on the LP store than have a title for the faction.... ? And the eHP buff (sorry to have to talk about it here, but there aren't any topic about it any more) you've said you'll tell us (before the patch note) if you make the eHP buff or not for assault... Wait and see. I say it again, it's very important to add all suits in the LP market. Not the same people who do web dev and dust dev. and i feel sorry for the poor saps who have to moderate/maintance these forums "uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot those 10 ads's made me crap my dropsuit"
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 6296	Posted - 2014.08.02 12:32:00 - [142] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Killer's Coys wrote: Don't you think that's more important to add the Commando / Heavy / scout for EACH race on the LP store than have a title for the faction.... ? And the eHP buff (sorry to have to talk about it here, but there aren't any topic about it any more) you've said you'll tell us (before the patch note) if you make the eHP buff or not for assault... Wait and see. I say it again, it's very important to add all suits in the LP market. Not the same people who do web dev and dust dev. and i feel sorry for the poor saps who have to moderate/maintance these forums no joke. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1238	Posted - 2014.08.02 13:47:00 - [143] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Good suggestions guys ...but i would say that the Caldari recommendations are are leaning too far with the purely Japanese based titles. As noted several times by CCP they have some distance northern European tones. Off the top of my head I don't have a lot of good ideas but you could weave in some old Prussian military ranks such as: Jaeger (Huntsman, Light Infantry, Scout) Dragoner (actual rank and ties back to the Templis Dragonaurs to a degree) Hauptman / Rittemeister (Captain of Infantry or Cavalry) Oberst (Colonel) I thought the Japanese one was a little bit weak myself, but wasn't too sure on how to improve it, and I have a few ideas for the Amarr one but I'm not entirely sure how to name some of their ranks due to lack of command in the language I'd be working in. But it is also worth noting that when you actually have to fight caldari in eve (say you're a gallente mission runner that doesn't care about tanking standings) the ships you encounter are stuff like "State Wakizashi". http://eveinfo.com/npcships/671/eve-online-mission-caldari-state-frigate.html http://eveinfo.com/npcships/676/eve-online-mission-caldari-state-destroyer.html http://eveinfo.com/npcships/673/eve-online-mission-caldari-state-cruiser.html http://eveinfo.com/npcships/672/eve-online-mission-caldari-state-battlecruiser.html http://eveinfo.com/npcships/674/eve-online-mission-caldari-state-battleship.html It's not like there isn't precedent for the caldari names. Also, these links give me a decent starting point on amarr names. I'll try to come up with a list soon-ish I'm tracking MINA. Heck the Tengu is a Japenese deamon. I was just trying to mix in some of the different names that match the lore. I'm pretty sure I read in an article here Hilmar described the Caldari to an interviewer in the terms "...a mix of Japanese corporations, Finnish machinists, and German military". He didn't say "****" but it seemed implied it was WWII era Vermacht. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3757	Posted - 2014.08.02 14:06:00 - [144] - Quote I see the caldari as the imperialistic era of Japan if that helps :\| (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1238	Posted - 2014.08.02 17:01:00 - [145] - Quote The racial ideas of New Eden are mixed at best and it's tough to draw too many direct parallels to societies and cultures of today - by design from my understanding. There are some pretty clear areas where the four races were noticeably influenced by archetypes from our current and historical examples. That said... I generally like the idea of forum and in-game titles/ranks for FW oriented folks. What would be kinda cool is that the rank is earned via achievements (example: X amount of Nova Knife kills and you can use the title Blademaster). You could have the FW-esque titles like we've been discussing and some in-game specific ones...might be kinda neat. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6857	Posted - 2014.08.02 18:32:00 - [146] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I am kind of working on amarr names with true adamance. What's your thoughts on the gallente ones posted kirk? To answer your question and being completely honest; no, I do not like the proposed ones except for the Minmatar. The problem with what everybody is trying to do here is make all the factions have bombastic, flamboyant names like the ones mentioned previously before. Having all the names that sound like what's been proposed sounds boring and dull only because you'll have all races sounding the same which in turn makes their "unique fantasy sounding names" not so unique sounding. Personally I feel that all factions should have their own feel to their ranking system. The proposed names for the Minmatar are pretty much perfect for them because of their tribal background, and what influence of humanity they are based on. Their influence being, Northern European, African and various "Third world regions" that would take kindly to the more mythological and such. That is their Background, and that is why the proposed names match them. Then you have the Amarr. Yes, their rankings would be more unique than what we'd be used to be you have to think about where the Amarr influence comes from. The Amarr, while flashy and bombastic, are also very Noble and their names should reflect that. They would be very similar to the positions of a Abrahamic-religious church but in a more, militaristic and "chivalrous" manner. Think Crusading knights fused with Persia from the crusades and other military religious type "factions" from humanity's past. That's what Amarr should have their rankings from. The Gallente and Caldari however are interesting to talk about. They are the ones in New Eden that would have the most militaristic, traditional rankings because of their similar origins (Gallente and Caldari are heavily fused with each other in history for those of you who did not know and were once the same faction) as well as their individual culture and history. Caldari, while sounding more influenced by what Japan and Central European tones would still have a very stern sounding militaristic tone to it. A very honorable, dutiful people with a strong sense of valor. Their names should reflect as such Lastly you have the Gallente, which oddly the simplest one for me to explain. While Gallente do love to name many of their things from Mediterranean area based Mythology as well as some others it's not as infused with the Culture as say the Minmatar are with their mythology or Amarr are with their religion. The best way to think of the Gallente would be the Modern Western World, yes we may name some of our things after mythology of past but it is in no way a major part of our Culture, the same is with Gallente. The Gallente would Naturally have the most traditional sounding rankings primarily because of their background. The Gallente influence for the most part is based on Western Europe. Most of the Military rankings the world uses today originated from the Region Gallente are based from and have the majority of their influence from. So Gallente Probably wouldn't get rid of longstanding traditions that have been with Humanity for ages in place of some Greek Folklore that they'd prefer to just name objects after since they came from the place where the ranks originated from in the first place. What we should heavily stay away from is having all races sound the exact same with no regards to Lore and history of each. While you guys are looking at a part of the lore for the races you are only looking at a small part of that faction and ignoring history all together and naming the military rankings off of that single piece of knowledge that is known. I think we can do better than the names that are being proposed, more lore appropriate ones, although the Minmatar is spot on. see you space cowboy...
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 3136	Posted - 2014.08.02 18:32:00 - [147] - Quote This is a really cool idea. I have already grinded to lvl 10Amarr FW, but a title would be really nice and rewarding. The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
MINA Longstrike 1101	Posted - 2014.08.02 18:59:00 - [148] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: I'm tracking MINA. Heck the Tengu is a Japenese deamon. I was just trying to mix in some of the different names that match the lore. I'm pretty sure I read in an article here Hilmar described the Caldari to an interviewer in the terms "...a mix of Japanese corporations, Finnish machinists, and German military". He didn't say "**" but it seemed implied it was WWII era Vermacht. The ** youth aspect of the caldari is largely due to the tube children after the decimation of caldari prime. Ethnically the caldari are American, German/Russian, and Japanese. Socially they draw the most from Japanese and American corporate cultures (where in japan your boss can tell you to take three weeks off to go and find a woman and get married and that there's office mixers between your place and this other company), and to a lesser extent they draw from other things. Sgt Kirk wrote: wordswordswords I highly suggest you check out the links that I provided with caldari ship names, because in there you can also view all the other faction ship names as well (not just the ones that eve pilots use, but the ones the various empire navies themselves use). For the most part, the names suggested thus far fit the tone and theme of each race very well. Liking or Disliking them is totally up to you, but I'd suggest that if you don't like what people have suggested, make your own suggestions - don't let others decide for you. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6858	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:08:00 - [149] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: I'm tracking MINA. Heck the Tengu is a Japenese deamon. I was just trying to mix in some of the different names that match the lore. I'm pretty sure I read in an article here Hilmar described the Caldari to an interviewer in the terms "...a mix of Japanese corporations, Finnish machinists, and German military". He didn't say "**" but it seemed implied it was WWII era Vermacht. The ** youth aspect of the caldari is largely due to the tube children after the decimation of caldari prime. Ethnically the caldari are American, German/Russian, and Japanese. Socially they draw the most from Japanese and American corporate cultures (where in japan your boss can tell you to take three weeks off to go and find a woman and get married and that there's office mixers between your place and this other company), and to a lesser extent they draw from other things. Sgt Kirk wrote:** wordswordswords I highly suggest you check out the links that I provided with caldari ship names, because in there you can also view all the other faction ship names as well (not just the ones that eve pilots use, but the ones the various empire navies themselves use). For the most part, the names suggested thus far fit the tone and theme of each race very well. Liking or Disliking them is totally up to you, but I'd suggest that if you don't like what people have suggested, make your own suggestions - don't let others decide for you. You haven't read a single thing I've said nor have you even read any of the previous post have you. We have already made a ranking system for the Gallente that we feel is appropriate. I also already hinted that there is a difference in what you'd name a vehicle built for war and what you'd title a being based in his position in the military. you do not have Russian military ranking calling themselves Crocodile General and such just because they name their vehicles and objects after such things. Who's deciding for me? I do not see where someone has made a decision for me anywhere. You're coming off as offended because I did not like 3/4 of the suggestions. see you space cowboy...
MINA Longstrike 1101	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:21:00 - [150] - Quote I did read what you had to say, and I disagreed with most of it. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6860	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:38:00 - [151] - Quote So far from this thread here are the one's I see as the best here. Hopefully this serves as a guideline to what each race is about. Amarr: True Adamance wrote: 1- Initiate or Disciple 2- Guardsman or Militae 3- Guardian 4- Paladin 5- Exalted Paladin 6- Legate 7- Templar 8- Templar Captain 9- Templar Imperator 10- Divine Captain of the Imperial Guard or Scutariorum Imperatrix (Means Bodyguard of the Empress) Caldari: Galm Fae wrote: I) Shaatei (Lowest ranking member. IE "Ensign Ricky.") II) Nit+ìhei (Equal to a Private) III) Goch+ì (Corporal) IV) Guns+ì (Sergeant) V) S+ìch+ì (Sergeant Major) VI) Chuigun (Lieutenant) VII) Taiikugun (Captain) VIII) Sh+ìsa (Major) IX) Taisa (Colonel) X) Taish+ì (General) Gallente: Gallente Skype Channel wrote: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine Minmatar: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Minmatar 01 Warrior 02 Warrior Mystic 03 War Spirit 04 Nomad Wolf 05 Stormwalker 06 Voshud Spear 07 Tribal Shaman 08 Matari Shaman 09 Tribal War Chief 10 Valklear Sanmatar Warlord see you space cowboy...
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1238	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:57:00 - [152] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: So far from this thread here are the one's I see as the best here. Hopefully this serves as a guideline to what each race is about. Caldari: Galm Fae wrote: I) Shaatei (Lowest ranking member. IE "Ensign Ricky.") II) Nit+ìhei (Equal to a Private) III) Goch+ì (Corporal) IV) Guns+ì (Sergeant) V) S+ìch+ì (Sergeant Major) VI) Chuigun (Lieutenant) VII) Taiikugun (Captain) VIII) Sh+ìsa (Major) IX) Taisa (Colonel) X) Taish+ì (General) I think you've got a pretty good list with the exception of the Caldari. My only real beef with it is that it's the outlier from the other three races in terns of language. All the factions actually have their own languages in addition to the common speech across the Empires but we tend to focus no he Caldari language (or our proximity of that) Let me think on it a bit and I'll post up some other options. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6861	Posted - 2014.08.02 20:04:00 - [153] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: So far from this thread here are the one's I see as the best here. Hopefully this serves as a guideline to what each race is about. Caldari: Galm Fae wrote: I) Shaatei (Lowest ranking member. IE "Ensign Ricky.") II) Nit+ìhei (Equal to a Private) III) Goch+ì (Corporal) IV) Guns+ì (Sergeant) V) S+ìch+ì (Sergeant Major) VI) Chuigun (Lieutenant) VII) Taiikugun (Captain) VIII) Sh+ìsa (Major) IX) Taisa (Colonel) X) Taish+ì (General) I think you've got a pretty good list with the exception of the Caldari. My only real beef with it is that it's the outlier from the other three races in terns of language. All the factions actually have their own languages in addition to the common speech across the Empires but we tend to focus no he Caldari language (or our proximity of that) Let me think on it a bit and I'll post up some other options. Yeah I saw this as a problem as well but that's the only way I saw for the Gallente and Caldari to have similar meanings while being unique but as always there is always a better way. Hopefully you can come up with something better. Maybe if Amarr and Minmatar had more root words than their english counterpart? Give Minmatar some actual nordic and african words in place of what is listed. Of course they'll mean the same thing but in that language. Do the same for Amarr as well. Maybe that would make Caldari less of an outlier, but I really do like the sound of a Tashio for Caldari level 10 see you space cowboy...
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1572	Posted - 2014.08.02 21:26:00 - [154] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: I see the caldari as the imperialistic era of Japan if that helps :\| No way. The caldari are hyper-capitalists with a side of facism. Think Ron Paul's wet dream (Libertarianism for the non-americans). I think names based upon something from Mussolini era Italy or Franco era Spain would be more fitting. Fun > Realism
MINA Longstrike 1102	Posted - 2014.08.02 21:29:00 - [155] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I see the caldari as the imperialistic era of Japan if that helps :\| No way. The caldari are hyper-capitalists with a side of facism. Think Ron Paul's wet dream (Libertarianism for the non-americans). I think names based upon something from Mussolini era Italy or Franco era Spain would be more fitting. You greatly misunderstand the caldari if that's all you think there is to them. You're so wrong it isn't even funny. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1573	Posted - 2014.08.02 21:41:00 - [156] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I see the caldari as the imperialistic era of Japan if that helps :\| No way. The caldari are hyper-capitalists with a side of facism. Think Ron Paul's wet dream (Libertarianism for the non-americans). I think names based upon something from Mussolini era Italy or Franco era Spain would be more fitting. You greatly misunderstand the caldari if that's all you think there is to them. You're so wrong it isn't even funny. What more is there to understand Mina they are an extremely nationalistic corporatocracy with militaristic tendencies. Japan, prior to the post WWII reconstruction era was a feudal dictatorship with zero independent capitalism on a major scale, a fact dictated by the Japanese cast system, which at the time placed merchants right above the untouchable classes that worked with tanning hides and waste disposal. The caldari are ruled by a governing group of corporations. There were no corporations in premodern Japan. The closest you are going to get were the Dutch traders who were only allowed in a single port city (Nagasaki) and were an extremely small influence on the coutnry as a whole due to the Shogunate's policies. Frano's Spain or Mussollini's Italy are much more closely related to the portrayal of the Caldari since they were 1) capitalisitc facist states where the goverment was essentially run by a leader who was in bed with the corporate powers. 2) They were highly militaristic emphasizing exactly the same kinds of martial ideas espoused by the Caldari. Additionally have you even looked at the Caldari character models in EvE? The are for the most part European, with very few features of Asiatic peoples. The issue doesn't seem to be that I don't understand Japan or the Caldari, its that you have no clue what you are talking about. Your dime store understanding of Japanese history really isn't enough to make a cross cultural comparison with Bugs Bunny let alone a fictions society with the same depth of background as the Caldari. Consider your self "historianed." <--its like being "lawyered but way less applicable to daily life and really only something actual historians can pull off. Fun > Realism
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6864	Posted - 2014.08.02 21:47:00 - [157] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I see the caldari as the imperialistic era of Japan if that helps :\| No way. The caldari are hyper-capitalists with a side of facism. Think Ron Paul's wet dream (Libertarianism for the non-americans). I think names based upon something from Mussolini era Italy or Franco era Spain would be more fitting. You greatly misunderstand the caldari if that's all you think there is to them. You're so wrong it isn't even funny. What more is there to understand Mina they are an extremely nationalistic corporatocracy with militaristic tendencies. Japan, prior to the post WWII reconstruction era was a feudal dictatorship with zero independent capitalism on a major scale, a fact dictated by the Japanese cast system, which at the time placed merchants right above the untouchable classes that worked with tanning hides and waste disposal. The caldari are ruled by a governing group of corporations. There were no corporations in premodern Japan. The closest you are going to get were the Dutch traders who were only allowed in a single port city (Nagasaki) and were an extremely small influence on the coutnry as a whole due to the Shogunate's policies. Frano's Spain or Mussollini's Italy are much more closely related to the portrayal of the Caldari since they were 1) capitalisitc facist states where the goverment was essentially run by a leader who was in bed with the corporate powers. 2) They were highly militaristic emphasizing exactly the same kinds of martial ideas espoused by the Caldari. Additionally have you even looked at the Caldari character models in EvE? The are for the most part European, with very few features of Asiatic peoples. The issue doesn't seem to be that I don't understand Japan or the Caldari, its that you have no clue what you are talking about. Your dime store understanding of Japanese history really isn't enough to make a cross cultural comparison with Bugs Bunny let alone a fictions society with the same depth of background as the Caldari. Consider your self "historianed." <--its like being "lawyered but way less applicable to daily life and really only something actual historians can pull off. Well I was cautioned by Arkena to be nice to the people in this thread but I'll throw that **** to the wind now. Mobius is pretty spot on. Like I said before, there's more to look at than one tiny factor of the empires. You're going to have to know a little bit of history both real world history and New Eden Lore to properly have a grasp at what's going on. Arkena, do I have permission to stop playing nice now? see you space cowboy...
ROMULUS H3X research lab 132	Posted - 2014.08.02 21:59:00 - [158] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: An idea I had was to show LP standings as a forum tag. If anyone is interested in helping me make a cool lore case, please reply to this thread like this: "Standing" - "Honorary Title" Gallente 10 General 9 Lord Marshall ... ... Caldari 10 Chancellor Minmatar 10 Warlord Amarr 10 High Priest etc. How about having Forge Guns in the god dam loyalty store... Then maybe we could move on from there..... FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN -Romulus H3X
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1574	Posted - 2014.08.02 22:05:00 - [159] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Well I was cautioned by Arkena to be nice to the people in this thread but I'll throw that **** to the wind now. Mobius is pretty spot on. Like I said before, there's more to look at than one tiny factor of the empires. You're going to have to know a little bit of history both real world history and New Eden Lore to properly have a grasp at what's going on. Arkena, do I have permission to stop playing nice now? Take off the gloves brother, it is time to kick some conceptual ass. Fun > Realism
MINA Longstrike 1102	Posted - 2014.08.02 22:24:00 - [160] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I see the caldari as the imperialistic era of Japan if that helps :\| No way. The caldari are hyper-capitalists with a side of facism. Think Ron Paul's wet dream (Libertarianism for the non-americans). I think names based upon something from Mussolini era Italy or Franco era Spain would be more fitting. You greatly misunderstand the caldari if that's all you think there is to them. You're so wrong it isn't even funny. What more is there to understand Mina they are an extremely nationalistic corporatocracy with militaristic tendencies. Japan, prior to the post WWII reconstruction era was a feudal dictatorship with zero independent capitalism on a major scale, a fact dictated by the Japanese cast system, which at the time placed merchants right above the untouchable classes that worked with tanning hides and waste disposal. The caldari are ruled by a governing group of corporations. There were no corporations in premodern Japan. The closest you are going to get were the Dutch traders who were only allowed in a single port city (Nagasaki) and were an extremely small influence on the coutnry as a whole due to the Shogunate's policies. Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy are much more closely related to the portrayal of the Caldari since they were 1) capitalisitc facist states where the goverment was essentially run by a leader who was in bed with the corporate powers. 2) They were highly militaristic emphasizing exactly the same kinds of martial ideas espoused by the Caldari. Additionally have you even looked at the Caldari character models in EvE? The are for the most part European, with very few features of Asiatic peoples. The issue doesn't seem to be that I don't understand Japan or the Caldari, its that you have no clue what you are talking about. Your dime store understanding of Japanese history really isn't enough to make a cross cultural comparison with Bugs Bunny let alone a fictions society with the same depth of background as the Caldari. Consider your self "historianed." <--its like being "lawyered but way less applicable to daily life and really only something actual historians can pull off. It's ironic to make the claim that I have no clue what I'm talking about when you clearly know so little about caldari lore, maybe go read about the state on the wiki for a few hours and you'd have some level of understanding. Dime store understanding indeed. I don't have more time to actually properly dismiss this right now, but I'll see about getting around to it. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3845	Posted - 2014.08.03 03:07:00 - [161] - Quote So.. Uhh.. About those factional rankings. When might we get a taste of them, Rattati? (Assuming anyone can ever settle on a Caldari progression) (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1239	Posted - 2014.08.03 04:05:00 - [162] - Quote Ok...i've had a little time to kick some ideas around about an alternate Caldari title naming convention. Basically, I wanted to look for names that capture the mosaic of traits the Caldari have without overly relying on names you would have to google to figure out. Again, might not be great but perhaps a good start point. 1) State Soldat 2) Vanguard Trooper 3) Dragonaur Trooper 4) Vanguard Sergeant 5) Dragonaur Sergeant 6) Vanguard Officer 7) Dragonaur Officer 8) Senior Military Operative 9) Senior Intelligence Operative 10) Executive Security Director Couple notes: 1) tried to stay away from Japanese / Euro names too much. Didn't feel right to go one way or the other and a mixed list was sketchy. 2) Vanguards - homage to the EVE video (can't remember name) with the Caldari merc (call sign; Vanguard) that was betrayed by the capsuleer that dropped the OB on him. Basically your more basic ground operations guys for the Caldari. 3) Dragonaurs - direct lore tie in; bit of a mix of police state strong-arm guys, political / intelligence muscle, action arm for some of Tibus Heth's circle. 4) Ranks 8-10 were much more corporate oriented titles. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1582	Posted - 2014.08.03 05:44:00 - [163] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I suspect I have more knowledge of the Japanese culture than you might. I don't have more time to actually properly dismiss this right now, but I'll see about getting around to it. I have a degree in Japanese history, do you? I also lived there for years and speak Japanese without needing to use google translate. Can you say the same? püépü¬püƒpéépüépü«püôpü¿pü+F¬¦pü¢péïn+ƒsñºTÿ¬s+üpéén+ƒS+òtùöpéäpü¡péôsÅ»µä¢püäpü¥püån+ƒ Watching manga doesn't make you an expert girl, go pick a fight with someone else. Fun > Realism
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1582	Posted - 2014.08.03 06:05:00 - [164] - Quote Proposed Caldari Ranks by faction warfare level: 1) Camicia Nera 2) Capo Squadra 3) Aiutante 4) Sottocapomanipolo 5) Centurione 6) Seniore 7) Primo Senior 8) Console Comandante 9) Luogotenente Generale 10) Comandante Generale These are based upon the ranks used by the "Black Shirts" who were the Facist Miliia of Franco era Spain. While they are simple ranks I feel like the italian terminology and clear connection to the terms use for ranks in Ancient Rome gives it a bit of interesting flare. Fun > Realism
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3775	Posted - 2014.08.03 06:22:00 - [165] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Proposed Caldari Ranks by faction warfare level: 1) Camicia Nera 2) Capo Squadra 3) Aiutante 4) Sottocapomanipolo 5) Centurione 6) Seniore 7) Primo Senior 8) Console Comandante 9) Luogotenente Generale 10) Comandante Generale These are based upon the ranks used by the "Black Shirts" who were the Facist Miliia of Franco era Spain. While they are simple ranks I feel like the italian terminology and clear connection to the terms use for ranks in Ancient Rome gives it a bit of interesting flare. I witdraw my own submission because Jaysyn Larrisen's is so excellent. I love the non-Asian/Euro specific nature as well as how you integrated the corporate titles with agressive military sounding terms. Great work! Really it seems pretty bland to me with the constant reusing of the same words but hey idk since I'm all about that Amarr :D (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 36	Posted - 2014.08.03 07:13:00 - [166] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Proposed Caldari Ranks by faction warfare level: 1) Camicia Nera 2) Capo Squadra 3) Aiutante 4) Sottocapomanipolo 5) Centurione 6) Seniore 7) Primo Senior 8) Console Comandante 9) Luogotenente Generale 10) Comandante Generale These are based upon the ranks used by the "Black Shirts" who were the Facist Miliia of Franco era Spain. While they are simple ranks I feel like the italian terminology and clear connection to the terms use for ranks in Ancient Rome gives it a bit of interesting flare. I witdraw my own submission because Jaysyn Larrisen's is so excellent. I love the non-Asian/Euro specific nature as well as how you integrated the corporate titles with agressive military sounding terms. Great work! Really it seems pretty bland to me with the constant reusing of the same words but hey idk since I'm all about that Amarr :D It is bland. And Mobius, maybe you're painfully unaware but quite a fair bit of the caldari naming scheme from eve is Japanese. In fact if you looked at the links provided earlier you can see the names of every NPC in the game, the entire npc caldari ship naming scheme is based off of Japanese words usually variations on feudal Japanese soldiers and their equipment. I don't care how you believe the corporations run or should run, you are wrong, everything suggested by Galm and Mina conforms to the naming conventions of eve. It's incongruous to the point of being jarring when you try to toss out Italian names for a race that has zero connection to anything Italian, in fact it just makes your condescending attitude look stupid and woefully uninformed when you cant do enough basic research to get the races naming conventions right. Quit being a self loathing weaboo, You might not like the Japanese titles suggested or even the non-Japanese ones but they are appropriate and to the point accurate, they stick to the root languages used by the races in their npc names. Furthermore I like the idea of staying away from non-standard military ranks, because we are immortal mercenaries not part of any existing military organization, so in addition to titles like "general" being painfully ****ing boring and underwhelming they ring particularly hollow due to all of our characters not actually existing within any faction military structure.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12516	Posted - 2014.08.03 07:20:00 - [167] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Ok...i've had a little time to kick some ideas around about an alternate Caldari title naming convention. Basically, I wanted to look for names that capture the mosaic of traits the Caldari have without overly relying on names you would have to google to figure out. Again, might not be great but perhaps a good start point. 1) State Soldat 2) Vanguard Trooper 3) Dragonaur Trooper 4) Vanguard Sergeant 5) Dragonaur Sergeant 6) Vanguard Officer 7) Dragonaur Officer 8) Senior Military Operative 9) Senior Intelligence Operative 10) Executive Security Director Couple notes: 1) tried to stay away from Japanese / Euro names too much. Didn't feel right to go one way or the other and a mixed list was sketchy. 2) Vanguards - homage to the EVE video (can't remember name) with the Caldari merc (call sign; Vanguard) that was betrayed by the capsuleer that dropped the OB on him. Basically your more basic ground operations guys for the Caldari. 3) Dragonaurs - direct lore tie in; bit of a mix of police state strong-arm guys, political / intelligence muscle, action arm for some of Tibus Heth's circle. 4) Ranks 8-10 were much more corporate oriented titles. Bear in mind dude that the Templis Drangonaurs are U-nat terrorists who are even hunted by the state. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1583	Posted - 2014.08.03 08:10:00 - [168] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: It's incongruous to the point of being jarring when you try to toss out Italian names for a race that has zero connection to anything Italian Ahh, you will notice that I crossed out my suggestion as I like another much better. I have looked over the naming conventions you have referenced and I will concede that you are correct. Japanese names are almost always used for EvE NPC ships and it would be jarring to break with that tradition for ship naming. I'm still not sold on it for the FW ranks though. You'll notice that EvE's Caldari FW ranks totally stay away from any ethnicity which means your assertion that Japanese names "are appropriate and to the point accurate" names for fw ranks is not correct. To keep with your ideal of a non-jarring EvE aligned set of FW names (an idea I fully support by the way) the FW ranks on dust should also avoid Asian/European specific titles or themes. Instead, our names should be sticking to the backbone of Caldari ideals: capitalism, corporatocracy, and militaristic nationalism. This could make for a far more interesting naming scheme that avoids both the military ranks you find "bland" and the Japanese theme that doesn't fit the Cal FW ranks and is far too pass+¬. Corporate titles meets something more aggressive perhaps? I feel like "corporate head hunter" could fit in there somewhere . Please note I crossed out my suggestion almost as soon as I made it. I like it to be honest (it might offend Spanish people who's families were the targets of the "Black Shirts" but left it there to stir the pot. Glad it worked. Just so you know I play a Minmatar EvE side and have zero interaction with Caldari NPC ships. Thus my former ignorance of the naming schemes they used. Thank you for the info. Fun > Realism
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 285	Posted - 2014.08.03 08:22:00 - [169] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: It is bland. And Mobius, maybe you're painfully unaware but quite a fair bit of the caldari naming scheme from eve is Japanese. In fact if you looked at the links provided earlier you can see the names of every NPC in the game, the entire npc caldari ship naming scheme is based off of Japanese words usually variations on feudal Japanese soldiers and their equipment. I don't care how you believe the corporations run or should run, you are wrong, everything suggested by Galm and Mina conforms to the naming conventions of eve. It's incongruous to the point of being jarring when you try to toss out Italian names for a race that has zero connection to anything Italian, in fact it just makes your condescending attitude look stupid and woefully uninformed when you cant do enough basic research to get the races naming conventions right. Quit being a self loathing weaboo, You might not like the Japanese titles suggested or even the non-Japanese ones but they are appropriate and to the point accurate, they stick to the root languages used by the races in their npc names. Furthermore I like the idea of staying away from non-standard military ranks, because we are immortal mercenaries not part of any existing military organization, so in addition to titles like "general" being painfully ***ing boring and underwhelming they ring particularly hollow due to all of our characters not actually existing within any faction military structure. Well I had stepped away from this thread for a while and missed a large bulk of the debate which I would have loved to take part in, but thankfully the above post hit the nail on the head. If I could like this a thousand times it still wouldn't do this glorious bastard justice. Additionally, even MORE of what Adamance said. Overall, because you may not like the titles that the first dedicated few threw out because they aren't so horribly dull as "captain" don't think you can make up italian surnames and attempt to claim that you know more about the intricate caldari society. To pigeonhole thousands of years of Rata tradition (which is really just an amalgamation of icelandic, japanese, and even some diluted scottish) by focusing on the fact that they are "Ron Pauls wet dream" is shallow-headed thinking that would get you throughly mocked on the EVE side of the IGS. I live Caldari. I breath Caldari. I sometimes have horribly racist thoughts about the Gallente that I KNOW I shouldn't have, and yet I don't stop them.* So please, if you have any questions or even basic consultation on what might be good titles for an organization like the State Peacekeepers, actually consider listing to my fellow statesman. We tend to care a bit more about our culture than you homogeneous group of Matari savages. Ahhh, always good to know that I can trust the boys from PIE to be there when we need them. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Keepin' the peace!--
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 285	Posted - 2014.08.03 08:43:00 - [170] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Gallente titles. 1) Trophimoi 2) Ekdromoi 3) Homoioi (covered in spartiate link it means 'peers') 4) Sarissophoroi 5) Hoplite 6) Spartiate 7) Somatophylakes I was tempted to replace this with Hetairoi, but that's a bit of a later period thing. 8) Erinyes 9) Gigas 10) Hekatonkheir More than willing to take suggestions on these, replace some of the name with other things etc, but I like the progression, you start as someone that is essentially adopted into the federation/military, then after a short time you progress to an equal, and eventually an elite, then a warrior of legend and eventually a being of primordial might. Gigas feels a little weak as a title, and I was tempted to use gigantes but it's noted in the article that they weren't necessary larger than other things, just infinitely more ferocious. Edit: got a little feedback and decided to remove Triptolemus and keep erinyes as it fits with the 'primordial being' theme more. So this is going to be a double post but I wanted to touch base on this, since I sort of worked my way backwards in posts. For the most part I love these ideas, but there are a few with a bit too many syllables than I am comfortable with. I am not sure where we should swap them out, but up to this point we have sort of gone through a system of making the names then rearranging them until we get something that works. A few I would like to see that could replace some: 1) Argonaut - This would probably be towards the top, likely as one of the last 'mortal' ranks 2) Gyges - One of the original creatures that joined the Gods to bring down the Titans 3) Aigaion- This one I love. He was the chief Hekatonkheires. Also, it just sounds impressive. I can picture a proud Aigaion-rank commander leading from the front. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Keepin' the peace!--

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15589	Posted - 2014.08.03 09:39:00 - [171] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 3) Dragonaurs - direct lore tie in; bit of a mix of police state strong-arm guys, political / intelligence muscle, action arm for some of Tibus Heth's circle. Aren't the Dragonaurs viewed as a terrorist group? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12520	Posted - 2014.08.03 09:45:00 - [172] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 3) Dragonaurs - direct lore tie in; bit of a mix of police state strong-arm guys, political / intelligence muscle, action arm for some of Tibus Heth's circle. Aren't the Dragonaurs viewed as a terrorist group? VERY MUCH SO YES..... they bombed a certain city..... in Gallente space..... "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 285	Posted - 2014.08.03 09:52:00 - [173] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 3) Dragonaurs - direct lore tie in; bit of a mix of police state strong-arm guys, political / intelligence muscle, action arm for some of Tibus Heth's circle. Aren't the Dragonaurs viewed as a terrorist group? I prefer the term.... "A Misunderstood, Ultranationalist Society of Altruists and Puckish Rouges." *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Keepin' the peace!--
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15590	Posted - 2014.08.03 10:33:00 - [174] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 3) Dragonaurs - direct lore tie in; bit of a mix of police state strong-arm guys, political / intelligence muscle, action arm for some of Tibus Heth's circle. Aren't the Dragonaurs viewed as a terrorist group? I prefer the term.... "A Misunderstood, Ultranationalist Society of Altruists and Puckish Rouges." I thought even the State presently considered them terrorists? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12522	Posted - 2014.08.03 10:34:00 - [175] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 3) Dragonaurs - direct lore tie in; bit of a mix of police state strong-arm guys, political / intelligence muscle, action arm for some of Tibus Heth's circle. Aren't the Dragonaurs viewed as a terrorist group? I prefer the term.... "A Misunderstood, Ultranationalist Society of Altruists and Puckish Rouges." You would.....wouldn't you....... "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
junni jones Mid-Grade Mercenaries Courageous Cowards 21	Posted - 2014.08.03 11:39:00 - [176] - Quote let me try this for the Amarr its probably not the best but hey i tried 10: Monster O God hellsing reference 9: Templar 8: Paladin 7: Holy Knight 6: Saint 5: Missionaries 4: Under Marshal 3: Sergeant Brothers 2: Turcopoles 1: Standard Bearer
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1240	Posted - 2014.08.03 13:27:00 - [177] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Proposed Caldari Ranks by faction warfare level: 1) Camicia Nera 2) Capo Squadra 3) Aiutante 4) Sottocapomanipolo 5) Centurione 6) Seniore 7) Primo Senior 8) Console Comandante 9) Luogotenente Generale 10) Comandante Generale These are based upon the ranks used by the "Black Shirts" who were the Facist Miliia of Franco era Spain. While they are simple ranks I feel like the italian terminology and clear connection to the terms use for ranks in Ancient Rome gives it a bit of interesting flare. I witdraw my own submission because Jaysyn Larrisen's is so excellent. I love the non-Asian/Euro specific nature as well as how you integrated the corporate titles with agressive military sounding terms. Great work! Really it seems pretty bland to me with the constant reusing of the same words but hey idk since I'm all about that Amarr :D It is bland. And Mobius, maybe you're painfully unaware but quite a fair bit of the caldari naming scheme from eve is Japanese. In fact if you looked at the links provided earlier you can see the names of every NPC in the game, the entire npc caldari ship naming scheme is based off of Japanese words usually variations on feudal Japanese soldiers and their equipment. I don't care how you believe the corporations run or should run, you are wrong, everything suggested by Galm and Mina conforms to the naming conventions of eve. It's incongruous to the point of being jarring when you try to toss out Italian names for a race that has zero connection to anything Italian, in fact it just makes your condescending attitude look stupid and woefully uninformed when you cant do enough basic research to get the races naming conventions right. Quit being a self loathing weaboo, You might not like the Japanese titles suggested or even the non-Japanese ones but they are appropriate and to the point accurate, they stick to the root languages used by the races in their npc names. Furthermore I like the idea of staying away from non-standard military ranks, because we are immortal mercenaries not part of any existing military organization, so in addition to titles like "general" being painfully ****ing boring and underwhelming they ring particularly hollow due to all of our characters not actually existing within any faction military structure. One quick note on the Caldari language and naming scheme in Eve: they mix in a lot of Finnish language with Japanese as either stand alone or hybrid language words. You also see a couple words / phrases that might be Dutch or German but the lion share is Japanese & Finnish. Couple links: [url]http://fourthdistrict.net/forums/index.php?topic=1172.0[/url] https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21105 "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1240	Posted - 2014.08.03 13:38:00 - [178] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Bear in mind dude that the Templis Drangonaurs are U-nat terrorists who are even hunted by the state. They are now. I just went back and read through al the lore posts in EVO. That said...still might not be a bad idea to have them on the list (any doubt they would be involved in FW against the Gals?) but I totally see your point. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 502	Posted - 2014.08.03 16:35:00 - [179] - Quote The missing items are way more important than naming the ranks Director:Diplomat Search DL514 to apply
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 287	Posted - 2014.08.03 19:13:00 - [180] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I thought even the State presently considered them terrorists? Why certainly they are... Thanks to all the darn propaganda rallied against them by liberals. No one wants to be called a Provist these days. -_- *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Keepin' the peace!--

Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 37	Posted - 2014.08.03 19:18:00 - [181] - Quote junni jones wrote: let me try this for the Amarr its probably not the best but hey i tried 10: Monster O God hellsing reference 9: Templar 8: Paladin 7: Holy Knight 6: Saint 5: Missionaries 4: Under Marshal 3: Sergeant Brothers 2: Turcopoles 1: Standard Bearer Mina identified the root language for amarr naming conventions as primarily Hebrew, and was apparently working on coming up with something based on that.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1592	Posted - 2014.08.03 23:04:00 - [182] - Quote I must say, contrary to my previous crossed out post I am souring on the whole idea of FW ranks being in other languages. While it does lend a diversity to the titles it doesn't really convey the races' values. I like the idea of the Amarran FW ranks being based on something "Crusades" esque as it fits their whole religious zealot backstory. junni jones's ideas are good with the exception of rank 10 which I would prefer to see switched with "Inquisitor" or the like since it keeps more with the overall theme he developed in the list. junni jones wrote: 10: Monster O God hellsing reference 9: Templar 8: Paladin 7: Holy Knight 6: Saint 5: Missionaries 4: Under Marshal 3: Sergeant Brothers 2: Turcopoles 1: Standard Bearer Fun > Realism
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6891	Posted - 2014.08.03 23:18:00 - [183] - Quote It's becoming more and more evident that people just dont know. see you space cowboy...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12542	Posted - 2014.08.03 23:20:00 - [184] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: I must say, contrary to my previous crossed out post I am souring on the whole idea of FW ranks being in other languages. While it does lend a diversity to the titles it doesn't really convey the races' values. I like the idea of the Amarran FW ranks being based on something "Crusades" esque as it fits their whole religious zealot backstory. junni jones's ideas are good with the exception of rank 10 which I would prefer to see switched with "Inquisitor" or the like since it keeps more with the overall theme he developed in the list. junni jones wrote: 10: Monster O God hellsing reference 9: Templar 8: Paladin 7: Holy Knight 6: Saint 5: Missionaries 4: Under Marshal 3: Sergeant Brothers 2: Turcopoles 1: Standard Bearer AHahahahahahahahahhaha..... good god I wish people would wise the **** up and read the lore of the Amarr...... still..... 1.) Initiate/ Acolyte 2.) Paladin 3.) Exalted Paladin 4.) Templar 5.) Templar Lieutenant 6.) Legate 7.) Imperial Inquisitor 8.) Imperator Cardinal 9.) Ecclesiarch 10.) Divine Captain of the Imperial Guard or Scutariorum Imperatrix "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6891	Posted - 2014.08.03 23:25:00 - [185] - Quote Seriously, as much as I joke about the Amarr some of these comments make me shiver with frustration. see you space cowboy...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12543	Posted - 2014.08.03 23:59:00 - [186] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Seriously, as much as I joke about the Amarr some of these comments make me shiver with frustration. Wait, no, dont like my Comment true. I agree with Mobius. I just thought the monster of god and other suggestions were...outlandish. Imud Hubrau was confirmed to mean Beast of Heaven.......so not so outlandish....... EDIT: Originally I thought it was Mezagorm...but that means Vision of God instead. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 287	Posted - 2014.08.04 00:12:00 - [187] - Quote As I understand it a majority of Amarr language is built from Arabic and Latin, along with Hebrew like Longstride-haani is apparently looking into. Looking at words from those cultures could be a good point in the right direction. Words like Paladin and Legate are honestly good enough but I think we can get a bit more creative than that. I can make up a list of my own, just to see what people around here think. Though personally I'm tempted to keep debate on Amarr rankings 'in house' with people like PIE, who seem to be die-hard Imperials. I reckon it means more to them than it does to folks like me. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Keepin' the peace!--
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 37	Posted - 2014.08.04 00:16:00 - [188] - Quote http://www.academia.edu/5087064/The_Names_of_Israeli_Military_Ranks_and_their_linguistic_analysis or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces_ranks Not a terrible place to start. Also look at ship names: http://eveinfo.com/npcships/665/eve-online-mission-amarr-empire-frigate.html
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.04 00:49:00 - [189] - Quote Just looking at ship names, they seem to be named after a lot of popes, or martyrs, vague military names (with religious association), or after Abrahamic spirits. So to start an Amarr list 1) Turay (means 'private') 2) Templar (Go to title for amarrian immortal mercs) 3) Seren (means 'tyrant' or 'lord', also used as 'captain') 4) Atabeg (title of hereditary nobility) 5) Palatine (High level court title, heavily associated with military) 6) Malik (it means 'king', but we could use it as a refluffed word for 'holder') 7) Aluf (Hebrew word meaning 'Champion', also used as a title for 'general') 8) Kokbiel (Enochian angel, 'Ruler of Planets') - can be replaced for a more appropriate word. 9) Erel (rank of judiac angel, means 'valiant/courageous') 10) Hashmal (rank of judiac angel, means 'shining/glowing') Well, that gets us started. It's not nearly as strong of a list as I would like due to my lack of familiarity with the language in question, felt a bit like I was playing mix and match. Also I really, really wanted to stay away from existing religious titles, and stuff like 'inquisitor / knight errant / justicar / paladin' etc as I find those overused to the point of being stale, Amarr already has tons of ships named like that for its eve pilots. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 287	Posted - 2014.08.04 01:08:00 - [190] - Quote What is crazy about the Amarr is that the more you look into their culture the more muddy the waters get. At first glance you want to apply roman titles, and frankly there is no reason why people shouldn't. It would all be just as viable as Hebrew, and both serve as a good framework to build on. Then you kind of a have to look beyond that though, and once you do things get complicated fast. The term Paladin isn't a Roman title, but actually references a lower vassal of the Charlemagne Empire closely associated with Frankish tradition and Arthurian legend, which is interesting when you think about it. What we are basically left with at their very core isn't a Roman structure at all, but a theological covet attempting to increase stability by emulating Roman society and doing a rather horrible job of it, just like Charlemagne. All the while it is supported by an underlying religion that more closely follows that of the beliefs of King Solomon. So what I am trying to say is... This is too hard, I give up. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Keepin' the peace!--

MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.04 07:11:00 - [191] - Quote Update: also replaced min rank 8 (alfr) with Vaettr which means 'wight' (which fits the theme), and comes from 'vita' and also means 'to be'. Also, while I understand why you'd want to use "Aegaeon" Galm, that's a title of a specific hekatonkheir and I'd like to keep the titles non-specific so as to individualize anyone who actually hits gallente rank 10 as yet another specific hundred-handed warrior who fought against tyranny for causes that were good and just. Rattati wanted to get the individual suits named, Maybe the commando could be a cottus (striker/furious) and the sentinel could be a briareus (vigorous) Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 709	Posted - 2014.08.04 08:40:00 - [192] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: When questioned about what the various empires would call their mercenaries months ago, I believe the community came up with the fact that in eve Minmatar naming schemes are done based off of norse mythology, Gallente after Greek, Caldari after animals/Japanese myth, and amarr after religious stuff / knightly orders. Basing it off the concept of 'immortals' in each stated thema, I'll toss these out. Level 10 Minmatar - Einherjiar Level 10 Gallente - Elysian or Hecatonchires Level 10 Caldari - Rasetsu (it's kind of migrated from indian culture, but they're ultra-violent deathfeeder type things, unbound by karmic cycle - we're looking at the Buddhist incarnation primarily) Level 10 Amarr - (I'm kind of stumped on this, I want to go with Empyrean, Archon, or Sefrim) The point I'd like to make is to separate them from military titles, Immortal mercenaries are creatures of practically mythic might - warriors without peer and we should fall somewhere outside of typical military foundations. We're called in when nothing else will do, when it would be suicide for anyone else to even try - and then we go and achieve the impossible. sounds cool, I am also working on the side on properly naming the racial and the role, inspired by Kagehoshi's old thread i.e. Amarr Sentinel = Dreadnought, Minmatar Logi - Shaman, those kinds of lines. It would be nice to have a cool consistent reference. As an Avid Amarr FW player I doubt that a Gallente level 10 would want to be named after my corp that is unless they plan on making there names after an Amarr fw corp. Any time any one would do a search it would show my corp and The Lord Marshal an Amarr toon as your Lord savoir and CEO, wait this idea is starting to grow on me. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.04 09:12:00 - [193] - Quote It isn't being named after your corp. It's being named after the same mythological figure you chose to name your corp after as well. Coincidences happen. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2014.08.04 09:15:00 - [194] - Quote AMARR VICTOR !!! LET THE BOOT LICKIN BEGIN
TheLord HighMarshal Hellbrecht THE HECATONCHIRES 4	Posted - 2014.08.04 09:23:00 - [195] - Quote This is amusing. Yes you Gallente lvl 10s may kneel and swear fealty to THE HECATONCHIRES ,your Holder Lord, The Emperess, and the Amarr Empire. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent, Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalis
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1596	Posted - 2014.08.04 14:12:00 - [196] - Quote True Adamance wrote: 1.) Initiate/ Acolyte 2.) Paladin 3.) Exalted Paladin 4.) Templar 5.) Templar Lieutenant 6.) Legate 7.) Imperial Inquisitor 8.) Imperator Cardinal 9.) Ecclesiarch 10.) Divine Captain of the Imperial Guard or Scutariorum Imperatrix Now this is the best Amarr list so far. Interesting with a militiary/religious bent, and most importantly, not trying so hard. Honestly the simplicity makes the ranks sound nice. Fun > Realism
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.04 17:08:00 - [197] - Quote And yet I point you to galm fae's post about language. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 1016	Posted - 2014.08.04 17:55:00 - [198] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: An idea I had was to show LP standings as a forum tag. If anyone is interested in helping me make a cool lore case, please reply to this thread like this: "Standing" - "Honorary Title" Gallente 10 General 9 Lord Marshall ... ... Caldari 10 Chancellor Minmatar 10 Warlord Amarr 10 High Priest etc. Hope this comes to fruition. Best Idea For Legion
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 710	Posted - 2014.08.05 02:34:00 - [199] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: It isn't being named after your corp. It's being named after the same mythological figure you chose to name your corp after as well. Coincidences happen. So you expect EVE players AKA the people that call us "Dust Bunnies" to call us by these deified titles ? Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 710	Posted - 2014.08.05 02:36:00 - [200] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Seriously, as much as I joke about the Amarr some of these comments make me shiver with frustration. Wait, no, dont like my Comment true. I agree with Mobius. I just thought the monster of god and other suggestions were...outlandish. you absolutley correct Kirk no Eve player would take some of these titles seroiusly Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist

Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 710	Posted - 2014.08.05 02:41:00 - [201] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: I must say, contrary to my previous crossed out post I am souring on the whole idea of FW ranks being in other languages. While it does lend a diversity to the titles it doesn't really convey the races' values. I like the idea of the Amarran FW ranks being based on something "Crusades" esque as it fits their whole religious zealot backstory. junni jones's ideas are good with the exception of rank 10 which I would prefer to see switched with "Inquisitor" or the like since it keeps more with the overall theme he developed in the list. junni jones wrote: 10: Monster O God hellsing reference 9: Templar 8: Paladin 7: Holy Knight 6: Saint 5: Missionaries 4: Under Marshal 3: Sergeant Brothers 2: Turcopoles 1: Standard Bearer AHahahahahahahahahhaha..... good god I wish people would wise the ** up and read the lore of the Amarr...... still..... 1.) Initiate/ Acolyte 2.) Paladin 3.) Exalted Paladin 4.) Templar 5.) Templar Lieutenant 6.) Legate 7.) Imperial Inquisitor 8.) Imperator Cardinal 9.) Ecclesiarch 10.) Divine Captain of the Imperial Guard or Scutariorum Imperatrix Trues post is the only one Ive seen in this whole thread that even has a shred of a chance as being accepted. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 710	Posted - 2014.08.05 03:00:00 - [202] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: And yet I point you to galm fae's post about language. You mean your alt , along with Malleus Malificorum your other alt, Mina Longstrikes sig:Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.05 03:51:00 - [203] - Quote Evicer wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: It isn't being named after your corp. It's being named after the same mythological figure you chose to name your corp after as well. Coincidences happen. So you expect EVE players AKA the people that call us "Dust Bunnies" to call us by these deified titles ? When did eve or its players ever enter the picture? Oh right, you're an eve player who jumped right on that entitlement bandwagon and now you spend a great deal of time whining and complaining about dust and 'wasted sub money' and god knows whatever else perceived slight you've managed to get into your head. As I and others said to you the other day when you were gloating about the name hecatonchires, you're the only person I've ever met who is dumb enough to try and take credit for something they have no involvement in. You aren't the origin of greek mythology nor are you responsible for the names of the greek titans and you're about as 'cool' the kids who name themselves 'naruto' and ride on the coattails of someone elses work by trying to stand in the shadow of whatever glory it might have had. Of course you might already know this if you were actually capable of having or recognizing an original thought Evicer. Why don't you go back to being terrible and irrelevant at eve Evicer. Loving all the lossmails you have on Armaeus Hellbrecht. I mean I understand it's hard to recognize thought, care and research put into things like names and you'd love to have it dumbed down to the boring, generic and incredibly overused ranking systems of call of duty which were made easily digestable for people just like you. Because how dare a dust player ever have a nicer sounding title than what you could get in eve! I mean "dust bunnies" don't even do anything for eve players. In summary, all I have to say, Is go be irrelevant and terrible elsewhere, Maybe go try to lose another failfit abaddon in lowsec. Oh and if you weren't so terrible to interact with, you might actually be able to guess who my alts are without donning a tinfoil hat and sounding like an idiot. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 287	Posted - 2014.08.05 04:31:00 - [204] - Quote Evicer wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: It isn't being named after your corp. It's being named after the same mythological figure you chose to name your corp after as well. Coincidences happen. So you expect EVE players AKA the people that call us "Dust Bunnies" to call us by these deified titles ? "Dust Bunnies" by the way was never an EVE term. It was a term made by mercenaries who were foolish enough to communicate with capsuleers and call themselves as Dusters due to their incompetency with lore. That or the only EVE players you know are a bunch of basics. Even those that actually use that term don't do it out of lack of ability, but lack of respect. They don't take mercenaries seriously, and probably justifiably so when you line the average DUST player next to an average EVE player. Maybe formal titles that have a significant amount of thought in them will be a step towards changing that. Also... You think I'm Longstride's alt? Seriously? Do you also buy non-fluoridated water and hold your breath when you see a chem trail? The fact that I have a napanii sig just shows that I know my lore. It's not some esoteric language we made up. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Keepin' the peace!--
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1601	Posted - 2014.08.05 06:26:00 - [205] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: And yet I point you to galm fae's post about language. MINA, I hate to break it to you but I find that all the lists in other languages, especially my own, are trying far too hard. They may indeed have some connection to EvE lore and I think it is great that you are working so hard on them (by you I mean all of the people who are involved in them), unfortunately they just aren't as good as the lists that use English terms and link with the more general themes relevant to the race in question. True's list is perfect evidence of this. Sure, you could do days of research and come up with a list in Ancient Aramaic that is drawing from language used in the Dead Sea Scrolls and linked with 8 seperate pieces of erata that you have read about the Amarr. You could do that and it would be conceptually impressive, but it would also be a waste of time. No one but you and the other people who helped you with said list would really understand what it means or its relevance. Not only will they not understand but they won't care. The words, because they are in another language will have no relevance to the players. While you might be thinking well then those players are stupid, which, to be honest, is probably how I would react as well if I had worked really hard on something. The larger problem is that because most players don't understand your list they also won't care about the titles. Earning ranks will not be a motivating factor since no one will be impressed by them bragging that they are rank "0wyrs0." TL;DR Lists in other languages mean nothing to the vast majority of the playerbase and therefore should not be used to rank FW participants. FW ranks should be in English and loosely based upon the respective race's core background. Dust players with other languages set as the game's main language should get similar primary language preference. Fun > Realism
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.05 06:35:00 - [206] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: TL;DR Lists in other languages mean nothing to the vast majority of the playerbase and therefore should not be used to rank FW participants. FW ranks should be in English and loosely based upon the respective race's core background. Dust players with other languages set as the game's main language should get similar primary language preference. Cool opinion bud. It's nice to see you step away from being overwhelmingly condescending for a minute, to simply being mildly condescending. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3793	Posted - 2014.08.05 07:15:00 - [207] - Quote Somehow this turned into a epeen thread. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1602	Posted - 2014.08.05 07:49:00 - [208] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: TL;DR Lists in other languages mean nothing to the vast majority of the playerbase and therefore should not be used to rank FW participants. FW ranks should be in English and loosely based upon the respective race's core background. Dust players with other languages set as the game's main language should get similar primary language preference. Cool opinion bud. It's nice to see you step away from being overwhelmingly condescending and insulting for a minute, to simply being mildly condescending. You aren't the only source of feedback that the names have been presented to, the vast majority have reacted very positively towards it especially when given a side by side comparison and a little bit more explanation. You're entitled to your opinion, but it isn't an objective fact. I knew you would be hurt and react in accorance with that feeling but you really need to take a step back and do some really deep thinking about what your proposing and how it will be accepted by the entire community not just the 10 or so people actively participating in this thread. Also, while you may have taken my tone to be condescending that really is you reading too much into it. I was actually trying to be respectful of your work and opinion while at the same time pointing out a major issue. It is sad that you reacted exactly as I thought you might. I hoped for more. Fun > Realism
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.05 08:13:00 - [209] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: TL;DR Lists in other languages mean nothing to the vast majority of the playerbase and therefore should not be used to rank FW participants. FW ranks should be in English and loosely based upon the respective race's core background. Dust players with other languages set as the game's main language should get similar primary language preference. Cool opinion bud. It's nice to see you step away from being overwhelmingly condescending and insulting for a minute, to simply being mildly condescending. You aren't the only source of feedback that the names have been presented to, the vast majority have reacted very positively towards it especially when given a side by side comparison and a little bit more explanation. You're entitled to your opinion, but it isn't an objective fact. I knew you would be hurt and react in accorance with that feeling but you really need to take a step back and do some really deep thinking about what your proposing and how it will be accepted by the entire community not just the 10 or so people actively participating in this thread. Also, while you may have taken my tone to be condescending that really is you reading too much into it. I was actually trying to be respectful of your work and opinion while at the same time pointing out a major issue. It is sad that you reacted exactly as I thought you might. I hoped for more. I have little inclination to believe you're not being 'condescending' when you enter a discussion flinging insults and attacks on the character of others ('dime store understanding'). Things like that flavor whole conversations. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1602	Posted - 2014.08.05 08:23:00 - [210] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I have little inclination to believe you're not being 'condescending' when you enter a discussion flinging insults and attacks on the character of others ('dime store understanding'). Things like that flavor whole conversations. I've actually gone through three stages of feeling with regards to you and this particular thread. First I was really annoyed when I wrongly percieved you to be trying to turn us into "space ninjas." I really hate the idea of dust being full of space ninjas. As a result I loaded up my vitriolic cannons and let loose a volley or two. After I learned that you were really trying to make your concepts fit the lore I was dispassionately interested. Finally after a lot of thought I have become brightened by your spirit but totally disinterested in your end-product. Your reaction was fair given my initial attack but I was truly trying to be productive and respectful with the last few posts. Fun > Realism

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6949	Posted - 2014.08.05 12:51:00 - [211] - Quote He is a little bit sensitive isn't he? he's reacted that way several times in this thread. but yeah, you have to keep in mind the entire playerbase. Not just a few people that agree with each other on the forums. and that message was more so for you CCP because I know you'll read this eventually. see you space cowboy...
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 39	Posted - 2014.08.05 18:27:00 - [212] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: He is a little bit sensitive isn't he? he's reacted that way several times in this thread. but yeah, you have to keep in mind the entire playerbase. Not just a few people that agree with each other on the forums. and that message was more so for you CCP because I know you'll read this eventually. "Dumb it down, I don't think the people who have no knowledge of anything lore related would understand" - this isn't really a valid position because it's really being used to prop up an argument from ignorance, it's essentially saying "I don't understand it, so I don't like it, instead lets use names that aren't accurate because they have less of a burden of knowledge". Force feed people the lore, give them the titles they may not necessarily understand at first and maybe they'll do a little bit of research and go 'wow! this is really cool, it really expands my understanding of [faction]'.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3847	Posted - 2014.08.05 20:45:00 - [213] - Quote Sad. This thread has managed to suck out any joy the original idea had given me. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 340	Posted - 2014.08.05 20:50:00 - [214] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I am negotiating with some inhouse people to make this a reality. Don't know yet how possible/feasible this is. Could we get Avatars on forum of our favored dropsuit(or vehicles) in-game? Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 287	Posted - 2014.08.05 20:51:00 - [215] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Sad. This thread has managed to suck out any joy the original idea had given me. Wouldn't be the first time the "average playerbase" around here has managed to ruin a good idea. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Keepin' the peace!--
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12607	Posted - 2014.08.05 21:16:00 - [216] - Quote Quite frankly I don't want ranks any more..... they are pointless anyway. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1613	Posted - 2014.08.05 23:49:00 - [217] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: "Dumb it down, I don't think the people who have no knowledge of anything lore related would understand" - this isn't really a valid position because it's really being used to prop up an argument from ignorance, it's essentially saying "I don't understand it, so I don't like it, instead lets use names that aren't accurate because they have less of a burden of knowledge". Force feed people the lore, give them the titles they may not necessarily understand at first and maybe they'll do a little bit of research and go 'wow! this is really cool, it really expands my understanding of [faction]'. I think you are vastly over estimating the willingness of the Dust player base to get onto a computer and put time into researching Dust related lore. Sure, I'm sure that there are a few members of our community who would be spurred into reading the mythos of the EvE universe. Unfortunately I really think that the majority of players just aren't going to care enough to invest the energy. Remember you're talking about a small player base of console players, many of whom have zero connection to EvE beyond what Dust provides. Many of these players have told me repeatedly that they have no interest in deepening their gaming experience by getting into EvE or even learning more about the EvE lore. They want it simple. They want something connected to the easily digestible elements of the races background which they have gleaned from character creation and have little to no interest beyond that. It is not that Kirk and I are dumbing anything down or even supporting their ignorance. The ranking systems we want to present need to be perfectly accurate to their races. No, what we are looking for is something that is readily understandable. Ranks in other languages are simply too obtuse to catch most players interest. They will look at those unintelligible words and simply not care at all about what it says leaving them unmotivated to strive for a higher rank. True's list, which has a strong connection to the Amarran back story and theme is clear, interesting, and has a lot of cool sounding titles. That is what is going to push players towards participation. Bragging and showing off their e-peen through their ranks. Put yourself in their shoes. To a person who hasn't done the translation work which is going to sound cooler: High inquisitor, or +Æ+æ+ò+ö +ö+É+Ö+á+º+ò+ò+Ö+û+Ö+ÿ+ò+¿ (I can't romanize it because my hebrew is rusty and google translate doesn't use vowels. Darn my lack of practice). One sounds like some bad-ass evil priest, the other is totally meaningless. I'm starting to ramble, but the point is these lists need to be in English, linked to the race in questions culture backbone, and sound aggressive as well as cool. Fun > Realism
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1613	Posted - 2014.08.05 23:58:00 - [218] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Sad. This thread has managed to suck out any joy the original idea had given me. Wouldn't be the first time the "average playerbase" around here has managed to ruin a good idea. If anyone has any doubt that CCP will ere on the side of lore rather than what passes for 'average' for you lot, look at the Chronicles. Read some of the books. If nothing else, just take a good, hard look at New Eden. There is a reason systems aren't named "Swirly Planet Place" and why ships aren't called "Shoot boat things." Maybe it doesn't occur to any of you because you lack any amount of creative thinking, but when you are building a deep and diverse world like New Eden good enough just isn't good enough. Take a look at EvE's faction warfare ranks and you will see what Kirk and I are talking about. We aren't proposing that all the ranks be stupid, which is what you seem to be getting from our comments, but we are saying they shouldn't sound like their authors' are those jerks are renaissance festivals that yell at people because the stitching on their breeches isn't "period correct." Remember what CCP sells is fiction and one of the coolest things about a fictional universe is that whatever flight of fancy its author conceives of becomes the game's reality. Whatever they say will be the lore, and it doesn't need to be as deep or as complicated as you would have us believe. Fun > Realism
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 40	Posted - 2014.08.06 01:30:00 - [219] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: "Dumb it down, I don't think the people who have no knowledge of anything lore related would understand" - this isn't really a valid position because it's really being used to prop up an argument from ignorance, it's essentially saying "I don't understand it, so I don't like it, instead lets use names that aren't accurate because they have less of a burden of knowledge". Force feed people the lore, give them the titles they may not necessarily understand at first and maybe they'll do a little bit of research and go 'wow! this is really cool, it really expands my understanding of [faction]'. I think you are vastly over estimating the willingness of the Dust player base to get onto a computer and put time into researching Dust related lore. Sure, I'm sure that there are a few members of our community who would be spurred into reading the mythos of the EvE universe. Unfortunately I really think that the majority of players just aren't going to care enough to invest the energy. Remember you're talking about a small player base of console players, many of whom have zero connection to EvE beyond what Dust provides. Many of these players have told me repeatedly that they have no interest in deepening their gaming experience by getting into EvE or even learning more about the EvE lore. They want it simple. They want something connected to the easily digestible elements of the races background which they have gleaned from character creation and have little to no interest beyond that. It is not that Kirk and I are dumbing anything down or even supporting their ignorance. The ranking systems we want to present need to be perfectly accurate to their races. No, what we are looking for is something that is readily understandable. Ranks in other languages are simply too obtuse to catch most players interest. They will look at those unintelligible words and simply not care at all about what it says leaving them unmotivated to strive for a higher rank. True's list, which has a strong connection to the Amarran back story and theme is clear, interesting, and has a lot of cool sounding titles. That is what is going to push players towards participation. Bragging and showing off their e-peen through their ranks. Put yourself in their shoes. To a person who hasn't done the translation work which is going to sound cooler: High inquisitor, or +Æ+æ+ò+ö +ö+É+Ö+á+º+ò+ò+Ö+û+Ö+ÿ+ò+¿ (I can't romanize it because my hebrew is rusty and google translate doesn't use vowels. Darn my lack of practice). One sounds like some bad-ass evil priest, the other is totally meaningless. I'm starting to ramble, but the point is these lists need to be in English, linked to the race in questions culture backbone, and sound aggressive as well as cool. Might I suggest you stop making logical fallacies like Reductio ad Absurdum (your Hebrew example) the lists have been presented in 'english', though they may not be words that you're familiar with. Among the other logical fallacies you're making is 'argumentum ad populum' with wonderful things like "well most dust players don't care about this!", if they 'don't care' why are you considering their opinion? Remember, these are supposed to be forum titles (though who knows, maybe one day they'll show up in legion) and they'll likely have an option to be disabled, if you never go on the forums it doesn't affect you and thus it shouldn't be pandering to you. If you have no interest in the Lore why should we pander to you with stale titles or things that might be 'technically' accurate, but not as accurate as other more involved looks? Your 'points' are riddled with logical fallacies (strawman's, special pleading, ad hominem and more) and they have been since you showed up and started insulting the hard work of others when you didn't have a damn clue what you yourself were talking about. You've expressed your opinion multiple times and I'm sure it'll be taken into consideration, but you've also severely dragged the level of this discussion down with your ignorance. At this point all we're doing is going around in circles.
Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 687	Posted - 2014.08.06 01:51:00 - [220] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Quite frankly I don't want ranks any more..... they are pointless anyway. But they are an important first step. At this point, any new reason to care is a good thing. Living proof that the Amarr can't do anything without the Caldari

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12612	Posted - 2014.08.06 02:04:00 - [221] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: True Adamance wrote: Quite frankly I don't want ranks any more..... they are pointless anyway. But they are an important first step. At this point, any new reason to care is a good thing. Being that I am so heavily invested in FW....and EVE side......even EVE players don't really care............... and for all the aggravation this subject has caused...its frankly not worth it. What would get me to care again is the Amarr HAV.....but we know that will never happen. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1617	Posted - 2014.08.06 03:12:00 - [222] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Might I suggest you stop making logical fallacies like Reductio ad Absurdum (your Hebrew example) the lists have been presented in 'english', though they may not be words that you're familiar with. Among the other logical fallacies you're making is 'argumentum ad populum' with wonderful things like "well most dust players don't care about this!", if they 'don't care' why are you considering their opinion? Remember, these are supposed to be forum titles (though who knows, maybe one day they'll show up in legion) and they'll likely have an option to be disabled, if you never go on the forums it doesn't affect you and thus it shouldn't be pandering to you. If you have no interest in the Lore why should we pander to you with stale titles or things that might be 'technically' accurate, but not as accurate as other more involved looks? Your 'points' are riddled with logical fallacies (strawman's, special pleading, ad hominem and more) and they have been since you showed up and started insulting the hard work of others when you didn't have a damn clue what you yourself were talking about. You've expressed your opinion multiple times and I'm sure it'll be taken into consideration, but you've also severely dragged the level of this discussion down with your ignorance. At this point all we're doing is going around in circles. Do you even know what a logical fallacy is? I get the impression that you've simply looked up the largest words you've heard and are repeating them random sequences. All of my points are perfectly logical. 1) Most people who play dust aren't interested in the lore to the extent that you are. 2) The level your taking it to destroys the value of it for the majority of the player base. 3) CCP should be appealing to the largest contingent of the player community it can. 4) You are not representative of that community and thus need to shut the ** up. On a very specific note if you actually took the time to read my post you would have noticed that I said I could not romanize the hebrew and that I realized if it were in one of your lists it would have been romanized. Romanization, in case you don't know (since you seem like you're really a complete fool) is the process of writing a word from another language using the latin alphabet (our alphabet). Now clearly I did not do this and appologized for it in the post. Using that as a criticism of my argument is not only stupid but totally inaccurate. Malleus Malificorum wrote: why should we pander to you with stale titles or things that might be 'technically' accurate, but not as accurate as other more involved looks? What the does this even mean? Could you at least try and make sense? Malleus Malificorum wrote: You've expressed your opinion multiple times and I'm sure it'll be taken into consideration, but you've also severely dragged the level of this discussion down with your ignorance. At this point all we're doing is going around in circles. You've neck-bearded around for 11 pages and totally failed at creating something that will inspire the majority of the payer base. When someone contradicts you, you try and bully them into submission. We've heard enough of your lame ass so shut the ** up and let the adults talk. Fun > Realism
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 289	Posted - 2014.08.06 03:24:00 - [223] - Quote Mobius Kaethis basically wrote: No u m8. -É -+-â, -ç-+-¦-+--¦-Ç-+-¦-+ -+ -¦ -¦-¦-+-¦-+. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Keepin' the peace!--
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1626	Posted - 2014.08.06 03:44:00 - [224] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Mobius Kaethis basically wrote: No u m8. -É -+-â, -ç-+-¦-+--¦-Ç-+-¦-+ -+ -¦ -¦-¦-+-¦-+. Seriously, I could cite you the several posts before you showed up where we were being fairly productive as a community, the several posts afterwards where we refuted every one of your points, or the several evelopedia posts that support our choices... But you seem beyond that point. And by the way, if you haven't figured it out yet Mina is Longstride's alt. You know, the guy running for CPM? Literally the community representative and my personal vote? I'm pretty sure saying he doesn't represent the DUST community is a hopeless argument. Who cares? We've had people I disagreed with on the CPM before and we will again. I made my piece with longstride posts ago. You two assholes are the only ones who keep flaunting your epeens about asking me to kick them. You refuted my points by saying the Japanese language was a fine use for FW ranks based upon NPC ship names. Might I point out that EvE FW ranks are much more closely related to what we are looking for here. Why would be base a naming convention off of NPC names rather than something given to PC. I really don't think you fully refuted my argument given that did you? Fun > Realism
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12616	Posted - 2014.08.06 03:53:00 - [225] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Mobius Kaethis basically wrote: No u m8. -É -+-â, -ç-+-¦-+--¦-Ç-+-¦-+ -+ -¦ -¦-¦-+-¦-+. Seriously, I could cite you the several posts before you showed up where we were being fairly productive as a community, the several posts afterwards where we refuted every one of your points, or the several evelopedia posts that support our choices... But you seem beyond that point. And by the way, if you haven't figured it out yet Mina is Longstride's alt. You know, the guy running for CPM? Literally the community representative and my personal vote? I'm pretty sure saying he doesn't represent the DUST community is a hopeless argument. Wait what the ***! "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires"* -Kador Ouryon
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 40	Posted - 2014.08.06 03:54:00 - [226] - Quote I'll address some of your numbered points here. Mobius Kaethis wrote: Do you even know what a logical fallacy is? Yes, I do. If you did you'd understand that you've been making a lot of them. Mobius Kaethis wrote: 1) Most people who play eve aren't interested in the lore to the extent that you are. And yet we still have all the amazing lore and backstory that bubbles to the surface, to those that aren't interested the bhaalgorn is just another shiptype and the state shokuro buke is just another NPC, but for people that actually are interested in the lore it can mean a lot and presents a wonderfully rich universe to explore. Mobius Kaethis wrote: 2) The level your taking it to destroys the value of it for the majority of the player base. This is an opinion, not a fact. Mobius Kaethis wrote: 3) CCP should be appealing to the largest contingent of the player community it can. Why? So they can be spit on and disrespected like with the petition for the ATLI PS-3 FOCUSED LASER RIFLE? You haven't supported this point at all, it's simply an appeal to emotion (which is a logical fallacy). Why should they pander to a disinterested playerbase? Mobius Kaethis wrote: 4) You are not representative of that community and thus need to shut the ** up. Says who? Who are you? Why do you think you represent anything better than any other individual? On what grounds do you think that you have the authority to tell anyone that their ideas shouldn't stand on their own merit because they "don't represent the terribly disinterested community"? >What the does this even mean? Could you at least try and make sense? Pander We're looking at bullet number 2 here. Why should CCP use titles that stale (captain, major, general) or aren't as thematically accurate (read galms post about the word 'paladin') when people have come up with things that are accurate, aren't stale, and are thematically strong and unified. You say they should because you want them to pander to you, I say they shouldn't because I don't think they should pander to people who clearly don't really care, there's no point in focusing on a lost cause. >You've neck-bearded around for 11 pages and totally failed at creating something that will inspire the majority of the payer base. Here, I think you need this >When someone contradicts you, you try and bully them into submission. We've heard enough of your lame ass so shut the ** up and let the adults talk. Pot meet kettle, you're black. Incidentally the discussion was entirely civil and going quite well until you showed up and started slinging mud because gasp you thought you might have found a weaboo on the internet! I don't think I'm going to respond to anything else you have to say. You've derailed this completely and the constant arguing because of it has sucked the enjoyment out of the idea for practically everyone, thanks for that.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1626	Posted - 2014.08.06 04:16:00 - [227] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Why should they pander to a disinterested playerbase...On what grounds do you think that you have the authority to tell anyone that their ideas shouldn't stand on their own merit because they "don't represent the terribly disinterested community"? Pandering is what game companies do. It is how they make money and draw in players. Are you saying the game would be better off if it ignored the majority of its player base. I don't have any more authority than you and of course some of what I have said is opinion. Some of what you have said is opinion too. That is how people argue. As far as the basis for my opinion is concerned I have based it upon numerous conversations with other people, where they have expressed their opinions to me. I have also observed how other people have reacted in this thread. While three of you have really like the ideas you have been sharing the vast majority of players have made proposals more in line with what I am calling for. Since you have not payed attention to the rest of the posters your ideas clearly aren't representing the group. Mind you I'm not saying my ideas are a prefect representation of the group's ideals either. Malleus Malificorum wrote: I don't think they should pander to people who clearly don't really care, there's no point in focusing on a lost cause. That is very cynical of you. Don't you think that by appealing to the larger audience CCP could actually bring people back to the game. If you don't have hope that CCP can win people back over with an appealing product then why even post here atl all. Shouldn't you just give up on this game and go somewhere else. Malleus Malificorum wrote: Here, I think you need this Once again I am not nor will I ever be a wholly factually person. Argument without opinion isn't argument at all. It is simply statement. I assumed that you were smart enough to understand that people actually use opinions constantly. In fact you saying that I don't understand the difference between fact and opinion is, in fact, an opinion. Malleus Malificorum wrote: started slinging mud because gasp you thought you might have found a weaboo on the internet! Darn right I did and I stand by my decision too. No space ninjas in dust ever! You'll notice that my decision has been supported by people. Malleus Malificorum wrote: I don't think I'm going to respond to anything else you have to say. You've derailed this completely and the constant arguing because of it has sucked the enjoyment out of the idea for practically everyone, thanks for that. You're welcome! Fun > Realism
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 712	Posted - 2014.08.06 04:27:00 - [228] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Evicer wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: It isn't being named after your corp. It's being named after the same mythological figure you chose to name your corp after as well. Coincidences happen. So you expect EVE players AKA the people that call us "Dust Bunnies" to call us by these deified titles ? When did eve or its players ever enter the picture? Oh right, you're an eve player who jumped right on that entitlement bandwagon and now you spend a great deal of time whining and complaining about dust and 'wasted sub money' and god knows whatever else perceived slight you've managed to get into your head. As I and others said to you the other day when you were gloating about the name hecatonchires, you're the only person I've ever met who is dumb enough to try and take credit for something they have no involvement in. You aren't the origin of greek mythology nor are you responsible for the names of the greek titans and you're about as 'cool' the kids who name themselves 'naruto' and ride on the coattails of someone elses work by trying to stand in the shadow of whatever glory it might have had. Of course you might already know this if you were actually capable of having or recognizing an original thought Evicer. Why don't you go back to being terrible and irrelevant at eve Evicer. Loving all the lossmails you have on Armaeus Hellbrecht. I mean I understand it's hard to recognize thought, care and research put into things like names and you'd love to have it dumbed down to the boring, generic and incredibly overused ranking systems of call of duty which were made easily digestable for people just like you. Because how dare a dust player ever have a nicer sounding title than what you could get in eve! I mean "dust bunnies" don't even do anything for eve players. In summary, all I have to say, is go be irrelevant and terrible elsewhere, Maybe go try to lose another failfit abaddon in lowsec. Oh and if you weren't so terrible to interact with, you might actually be able to guess who my alts are without donning a tinfoil hat and sounding like an idiot. Just because Klingon is a real language doesnt mean the rest of us are even slightly interested in it. If these translations roughly translate to something like " hunter " please tell me in literal translation a CCP hired Russian interpreter will translate them .... as the base word.? I'll tell you , it would be ***** Hunter. Just because sqwa means woman in Native American doesnt mean we use it. A good Tribal list as an example In English would be Initiate, Scout , Brave, Shaman, Pathfinder, Chieftain, Warrior things of that nature.The list that are used EVE side for Fw are fine just remove Nautical references and make them Land based military terms. IE Captain, Major, Etc. A Caldari List if theyre corporate facist race could be Temporary, Leadman, Foreman, Supervisor, General Manger etc You need to come up for air nutcase. Just because the Minmatar in lore are tribal doesnt mean a name in Click clack or Swahelee should be used for a lvl 10 Minmatar Fw player ON a English speaking F8ck;ng forum, you absolute Fusk;ing tool So why dont you and Tatonka (dances with wolves reference) and the rest of the geebs go circle ponfar each other lol You need to come up for air nutcase. Just because the Minmatar in lore are tribal doesnt mean a name in Click of the San Bushan People or Swahelee should be used for a lvl 10 Minmatar Fw player ON a English speaking F8ck;ng forum, you absolute Fusk;ing tool. As for Eve yeah Im a noob at it , and you sound like you have an agenda. So in closing why dont you and Tatonka (dances with wolves reference) and the rest of the geebs go circle ponfar each other in your mothers basement. Just because and some other tools around here can speak fluently in Tolkien Elvish doesnt mean all to the rest of us. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1627	Posted - 2014.08.06 04:32:00 - [229] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: I've replaced a word in this next quote just to demonstrate how silly your argument is. Mobius Kaethis wrote: 1) Most people who play eve aren't interested in the lore to the extent that you are. And yet we still have all the amazing lore and backstory that bubbles to the surface, to those that aren't interested the bhaalgorn is just another shiptype and the state shokuro buke is just another NPC, wormhole space and incursions are just another place to try to make money, but for people that actually are interested in the lore it can mean a lot and presents a wonderfully rich universe to explore. It seems like you're supporting my idea here bud. You should have your lore. It should be there for you to enjoy. I never said it should go away. What I am saying though is that the titles we are talking about should be more accessible. Not devoid of lore but part of the more accessible elements of the lore. The names of the ships are accessible since players can link them to mythological creatures, or words that evoke emotions. You enjoy them at a deeper level which is great too. The rank lists we make need to have that same level of accessibility. Thank you for supporting my point. Fun > Realism
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 713	Posted - 2014.08.06 04:47:00 - [230] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Evicer wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: It isn't being named after your corp. It's being named after the same mythological figure you chose to name your corp after as well. Coincidences happen. So you expect EVE players AKA the people that call us "Dust Bunnies" to call us by these deified titles ? When did eve or its players ever enter the picture? Oh right, you're an eve player who jumped right on that entitlement bandwagon and now you spend a great deal of time whining and complaining about dust and 'wasted sub money' and god knows whatever else perceived slight you've managed to get into your head. As I and others said to you the other day when you were gloating about the name hecatonchires, you're the only person I've ever met who is dumb enough to try and take credit for something they have no involvement in. You aren't the origin of greek mythology nor are you responsible for the names of the greek titans and you're about as 'cool' the kids who name themselves 'naruto' and ride on the coattails of someone elses work by trying to stand in the shadow of whatever glory it might have had. Of course you might already know this if you were actually capable of having or recognizing an original thought Evicer. Why don't you go back to being terrible and irrelevant at eve Evicer. Loving all the lossmails you have on Armaeus Hellbrecht. I mean I understand it's hard to recognize thought, care and research put into things like names and you'd love to have it dumbed down to the boring, generic and incredibly overused ranking systems of call of duty which were made easily digestable for people just like you. Because how dare a dust player ever have a nicer sounding title than what you could get in eve! I mean "dust bunnies" don't even do anything for eve players. In summary, all I have to say, is go be irrelevant and terrible elsewhere, Maybe go try to lose another failfit abaddon in lowsec. Oh and if you weren't so terrible to interact with, you might actually be able to guess who my alts are without donning a tinfoil hat and sounding like an idiot. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6986	Posted - 2014.08.06 05:03:00 - [231] - Quote Sgt Kirk gets home from work Comes back into his thread Sees Mobius's comments Sgt Kirk Nods head in approval Well, Mobius has said what I would have and more. see you space cowboy...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12637	Posted - 2014.08.06 07:10:00 - [232] - Quote Evicer wrote: I also add that while on comms no one has ever pronounced my corp name correctly nor knew what it meant or while i explained gave a **, and as a blow to my own ego for creating it . If the name Hecatonchire was so badass (excluding the fact Im an ****) then why has no one ever joined it. I gave up trying months ago..... you are Evicer from the Hecktackyionchiaries.....sessesuhss... "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires"* -Kador Ouryon
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15614	Posted - 2014.08.06 10:45:00 - [233] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Mobius Kaethis basically wrote: No u m8. -É -+-â, -ç-+-¦-+--¦-Ç-+-¦-+ -+ -¦ -¦-¦-+-¦-+. Seriously, I could cite you the several posts before you showed up where we were being fairly productive as a community, the several posts afterwards where we refuted every one of your points, or the several evelopedia posts that support our choices... But you seem beyond that point. And by the way, if you haven't figured it out yet Mina is Longstride's alt. You know, the guy running for CPM? Literally the community representative and my personal vote? I'm pretty sure saying he doesn't represent the DUST community is a hopeless argument. No, he isn't. [11:41:00] Arkena Wyrnspire: Is MINA Longstrike your alt? [11:42:26] James Kyle / Dennie Fleetfoot : No. I've only got a couple and they're tacked as CPM too. Frankly, if Kevall acted like MINA is doing I would not have voted for him. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7032	Posted - 2014.08.06 12:46:00 - [234] - Quote I'm all for being down someone's throat but I just do not like it when someone sounds like such a ***** see you space cowboy...

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5145	Posted - 2014.08.06 22:31:00 - [235] - Quote Stop ruining my thread "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7045	Posted - 2014.08.06 22:34:00 - [236] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Stop ruining my thread Improve My Plasma Rifle and Ion Pistol and I'll leave you alone. see you space cowboy...

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5145	Posted - 2014.08.06 22:37:00 - [237] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Stop ruining my thread ~~Improve My Plasma Rifle and Ion Pistol and I'll leave you alone.~~ Of course I will do so, realizing I will be banned if I don't FTFY "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7045	Posted - 2014.08.06 22:41:00 - [238] - Quote So, about those rankings? Any Progress? see you space cowboy...

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5150	Posted - 2014.08.06 23:15:00 - [239] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: So, about those rankings? Any Progress? Actually, yes, but it happened in my last meeting of the day, so tomorrow is where I hunt a little more "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

MINA Longstrike 1108	Posted - 2014.08.06 23:26:00 - [240] - Quote FYI, I never made the claim that I was kevall longstride to Galm, I don't know where he got that idea aside from the similarity of our character names. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 290	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:52:00 - [241] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: FYI, I never made the claim that I was kevall longstride to Galm, I don't know where he got that idea aside from the similarity of our character names. coughs and scratches neck Similar names. Honest mistake. I was a bit thrown off by a previous comment, sorry. I guess I'll stop trying to be a super sleuth now. (Note to self, never attempt the old "ace-in-the-hole parlor-scene" move on a web forum again.) Anyway, look, I'm thankful that the Devs stepped in to keep the peace here. Things got out of hand quick and I am fairly certain all parties said something stupid at some point. That being said I think we can all agree to get over it and move on to actually contributing to this discussion. People are all just so open to shooting down one person's ideas without suggesting a better alternative, which serves to purpose to this thread. Ultimately the choice of which titles are preferred will come down to the development team, and I have already made my case for the more complex titles that were thought up earlier in this thread. This in mind, I'm going to begin to make a list of some easy to swallow titles. I'd sincerely hope that the men and women in charge will side with quality over just phoning this one in, but if that isn't the case then I'd love to at least develop a system that is true to the lore while not requiring an extraneous amount of divergent thinking. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Keepin' the peace!--
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 738	Posted - 2014.08.07 04:47:00 - [242] - Quote remove Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 160	Posted - 2014.08.07 04:49:00 - [243] - Quote As for Hecatonchire I never claimed I made up the word. I knew exactly what i was doing Lore wise when I researched the name. I knew exactly with names like Hyperion,Thantos,Nyx, Erebus and other names were from greek mythology and that the Gallente used these names. I knew back then https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=362399#post362399 what it meant and why I wanted to use it as a corp name. Being one of the Hecatonchire would mean you would be one of the 50 heads and 100 arms and together we could form something that could bring down the TITANS IE The skyfire battery shooting into space at ships. "Throwing stones as big as mountains" If the name Hecatonchire got used for level 10 Gallente FW then tell me how hard it would it be for me to drop my own toons from the corp ? Change it from Amarr militia to Gallente EVE side ? A couple mouse clicks and maybe Diplomacy 5 .Armaeus exist solely to manufacture he isnt for pvp. If and when manufacturing for DUST/Legion becomes a reality he'll simply manufacture Gallente suits and vehicles by the thousands instead of Amarr. I always intended from the beginning for this corps name to be synonymous with Gallente I just got side tracked with camaraderie and my love of the Black Templars (Amarr Heavies in Black used to look so cool) Hence why Im speaking to you from this Gallente toon now. Yes I in fact gave this alot of thought. Ask yourself or anyone around you if they think that the operator of Evicer couldn't make another successful toon in Gallente FW. How is having tanks/ADS in the LP store as opposed to not ,a bad thing ? The name and its intentions Lore wise were always supposed to be this from the first time it crossed my mind .... I merely got side tracked. As to the spelling it is Hecatonchire pluralized as in more than one. Why I chose this spelling as opposed to the other. As to the future of the Hectonchires it would also not be hard for a closed beta vet to help new players buy skill books and give advice. If CCP were to name level 10 Gallente Hecatonchire they would do the name and this corp a great honor by immortalizing it since it was founded over a year ago. SO again The name would just come full circle back to its intentions and this player would merely look at it as a speed bump.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3823	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:00:00 - [244] - Quote Could yall stop with the pointless argument (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7054	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:01:00 - [245] - Quote Hey CCP Rattati, are you going to increase the amount of LP we already have by x3 as well? That would really mean a lot to the Role Players of course, only the ones who have stored LP up so I guess that's not too good of an idea... see you space cowboy...
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3823	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:03:00 - [246] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Hey CCP Rattati, are you going to increase the amount of LP we already have by x3 as well? That would really mean a lot to the Role Players of course, only the ones who have stored LP up so I guess that's not too good of an idea... No you shall suffer with me (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7056	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:13:00 - [247] - Quote I will only suffer with you because I choose to...because, Freedom! .X; .XX' .':X' .:XX' ... .:XX'.X:': .':XXXX".:' .':XMMXX ." :X. .:.XMMX".:" X.".-. .:XXMMXX:" X:":":X .':XMMMMX" .": X: : ::. .. .:.MMMMM".-".:" X: :: :.": .-"/ .. .:XXMMMM":" .:" X:I I I 'I ."XX"..-X:' .XXIMXX".X' ." "X I I I I": .".XX".XXX" .:XX"MXX"XX'." X: I I I I:.". . " ".XX"' :XX".MX"XXX.".--. X:I I I X I I . . .XX" :XX" .MX:XXXXX"'..: "XXX X XX I I."I.. :. .X" ..:X" .XXXXXXXX:".::" XXXXX.XX..I I I:I :' .X" .-'':X. .."..XXMXXX::" 'XI"XXM X.I.II" I:"..X"."' .X. .. .'.MXMXXX:.:""": "X.X"XXX.X.X X." ..X." .X. .'"..:MMXXXXXXX".::.' X X X"XXXX.X. .X": X". .:".:MXXXXXX:." ."-. ':I X XXXXX" ."\|: X". ."...:MXXMMX"--"-. .":. "."I..X"X" ."I." .-X. ."'.:XMMMXXMXI::. . ::. .": ':.:.X." ."\|I: :'X..:".-" .:MMXMXXI::":..-" ": . \| ':." .":.: :.X.... ..:XMXMXXXXXXXI:. I . \| .:'.:.::. \|: :'X.... .:".:XMMXXXXXII::::: / . \| : 'X '" /\|.X:..:. ..:XMMMMXXMMXI::../ I . .: /X.X' .I / . X\|:...::".:MMMMXXX"."-. \|. .: ..--.:XXX:......: :\|:XXMXI. . ..:MMMXMMXXM:. ". \|. \|. / '"""'/" .:":MMMMX..: . .XXXMXXXX::."-.: ":. :. .: .... --: .:'.HMMMXI.:...:XXXIX:"XXXXX:. ':. ':. /MMMA.".:M:"-.. .-/' ./.':XMMMX.. . ..:MXXMX."XXX: .A : . : IMV"VP::.""-""""-./ /. .:MMMMI:'"---"IXMI":XX.".--'XX ': : 'V .:::XXI::"""" ..-".. :XMMMX. ':. .X'XMI.':X.':XXMMI. : : ":::::-"' ""-:::XXMMM. . "XXXX.'XMX. ":-'XMMMXI .: : ":XMMMM. =: "MXXX.'XXX..:MMMMMXXX. : / "MMMMM ":XXX"XX .:. .:MMMMMXXMI : / "MMMMM. .XXXX."X::XXMMMXMMMXXMM / : ":MMMMI'"XMXXI"::XXMMMMMMMMXMM. : : I"MMMM. "MXX:"MXXMMMMMMMXXXMI ." . : :. .I . "MM. :..:MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM:.' .. . I: I' X :MMX :MXXMXMMMMMMMMIMMM" .' . .IX . I..X:.:MXX":MXXXXMMMMXXMI.:X" .-' ... :. IXX.X 'I.X:I.XXX "XMMMMMMM"XX..:' .XX. "XX. ::: XXX" X:.IXXXX: 'XMMMMM MMX..' ..XXX. .::""""::"X: :X" M:XMM MI MMMXXX XMX.' ."I.XIMX. ."XX" XX.""""-:X" IMMIXM X: XXXMM".XXI' '.I..X"M:. :"X: :X: .::":X. /:X"X"X".' .MMMM.XXMX' .'..X..X."XX. " :XX:-:::XX: /"":/"X/ X-: ".." "-.XX" .'X...X..X..MI. XX' :":X" :XX"":/ ." /:"X::": "" ."..X...X...X..MI. X"..: " :"X-": ." / :X-:".XXXXX--XXX.I.X..X...MX...M .XXI' .XX -X." :/ :":X" "XXXXXXXX.X.X...X...X...X . IXXX: .XX" ":X" . ' :"/..". "XXX.X.MI..MX...MXX" I:. X: .XX"' .-" : .::.. :/ .A.-::. XX.X.XM...MM..X" I "--.---" ..-" .XA.--"XXXX" """XXXX" ": .X.XMX..XM..X I I"---""""" ""XXXX" :X"X :X""X ': : .X.X:.XXX.X..XX I I A . X""X " " ' : . :. ".I.XMM-"X::X I I ..:X:.. . . ' . . : "."..I.:XXX I I "XXX" ...XX... . .I. .XA"". . :."::XX::X 'X "-..X"X "XXXX" .XX.- -.XXXXX" "XXXXX" "":::.:XX":::X IXX "-. " X""X ":XXXX" "XXX . X" ": .:".:XX" :::X I. XX. "-. " ' X""X :X"X . " ..-"..:XX": :::X I . ::XX. """--. " " " " ..-" ...XX::::: :::X I :::::XXX. """----.........--" . ..XX" :::::. :::I ': ::::: "XXXX... ..:XXX":: :::::: .':X" I ::::: :::::"XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:' ::::: '::::: . :X I .'::::. ::::: ::::: .::::: :::::. ::III.. X" : .::::: ::::: ::::: :::::: :::::: :IIIII.I" :.::::: ::::: ::::: :::::: :::::: :IIIII.X" :::::: ::::: ::::: ::::::. ::::::. IIIIIIX" ::::. :::::. ::::: ::::::: '::IIII. .XIIIX" I:::.. '::::: :::::. ':::::: . :IIIII . XXXX" II:: . ::::: '::::: ::::II . IIIIII ..XXX" "II.. ::::: ::::: :::III.. IIIXXX..:XX" ". ::III .::::: . ::IIII ..:IIXXX..X" ".:IIII . :::II ..:IIIXX . .IXXXXX:" "IIIX . ::III . IIXXXX....XXXXX" "XX. .'IIXX ..'XXXXXI....XX" ".. .IXXX....XXXXXX..X:" ':XXXXI...IXXXXX:" '":XX::.XX:" '"-" BEHOLD THE GALLENTE PLASMA SHORTSWORD OF FREEDOM! see you space cowboy...
virgindestroyer7 Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 722	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:15:00 - [248] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I will only suffer with you because I choose to...because, Freedom! .X; .XX' .':X' .:XX' ... .:XX'.X:': .':XXXX".:' .':XMMXX ." :X. .:.XMMX".:" X.".-. .:XXMMXX:" X:":":X .':XMMMMX" .": X: : ::. .. .:.MMMMM".-".:" X: :: :.": .-"/ .. .:XXMMMM":" .:" X:I I I 'I ."XX"..-X:' .XXIMXX".X' ." "X I I I I": .".XX".XXX" .:XX"MXX"XX'." X: I I I I:.". . " ".XX"' :XX".MX"XXX.".--. X:I I I X I I . . .XX" :XX" .MX:XXXXX"'..: "XXX X XX I I."I.. :. .X" ..:X" .XXXXXXXX:".::" XXXXX.XX..I I I:I :' .X" .-'':X. .."..XXMXXX::" 'XI"XXM X.I.II" I:"..X"."' .X. .. .'.MXMXXX:.:""": "X.X"XXX.X.X X." ..X." .X. .'"..:MMXXXXXXX".::.' X X X"XXXX.X. .X": X". .:".:MXXXXXX:." ."-. ':I X XXXXX" ."\|: X". ."...:MXXMMX"--"-. .":. "."I..X"X" ."I." .-X. ."'.:XMMMXXMXI::. . ::. .": ':.:.X." ."\|I: :'X..:".-" .:MMXMXXI::":..-" ": . \| ':." .":.: :.X.... ..:XMXMXXXXXXXI:. I . \| .:'.:.::. \|: :'X.... .:".:XMMXXXXXII::::: / . \| : 'X '" /\|.X:..:. ..:XMMMMXXMMXI::../ I . .: /X.X' .I / . X\|:...::".:MMMMXXX"."-. \|. .: ..--.:XXX:......: :\|:XXMXI. . ..:MMMXMMXXM:. ". \|. \|. / '"""'/" .:":MMMMX..: . .XXXMXXXX::."-.: ":. :. .: .... --: .:'.HMMMXI.:...:XXXIX:"XXXXX:. ':. ':. /MMMA.".:M:"-.. .-/' ./.':XMMMX.. . ..:MXXMX."XXX: .A : . : IMV"VP::.""-""""-./ /. .:MMMMI:'"---"IXMI":XX.".--'XX ': : 'V .:::XXI::"""" ..-".. :XMMMX. ':. .X'XMI.':X.':XXMMI. : : ":::::-"' ""-:::XXMMM. . "XXXX.'XMX. ":-'XMMMXI .: : ":XMMMM. =: "MXXX.'XXX..:MMMMMXXX. : / "MMMMM ":XXX"XX .:. .:MMMMMXXMI : / "MMMMM. .XXXX."X::XXMMMXMMMXXMM / : ":MMMMI'"XMXXI"::XXMMMMMMMMXMM. : : I"MMMM. "MXX:"MXXMMMMMMMXXXMI ." . : :. .I . "MM. :..:MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM:.' .. . I: I' X :MMX :MXXMXMMMMMMMMIMMM" .' . .IX . I..X:.:MXX":MXXXXMMMMXXMI.:X" .-' ... :. IXX.X 'I.X:I.XXX "XMMMMMMM"XX..:' .XX. "XX. ::: XXX" X:.IXXXX: 'XMMMMM MMX..' ..XXX. .::""""::"X: :X" M:XMM MI MMMXXX XMX.' ."I.XIMX. ."XX" XX.""""-:X" IMMIXM X: XXXMM".XXI' '.I..X"M:. :"X: :X: .::":X. /:X"X"X".' .MMMM.XXMX' .'..X..X."XX. " :XX:-:::XX: /"":/"X/ X-: ".." "-.XX" .'X...X..X..MI. XX' :":X" :XX"":/ ." /:"X::": "" ."..X...X...X..MI. X"..: " :"X-": ." / :X-:".XXXXX--XXX.I.X..X...MX...M .XXI' .XX -X." :/ :":X" "XXXXXXXX.X.X...X...X...X . IXXX: .XX" ":X" . ' :"/..". "XXX.X.MI..MX...MXX" I:. X: .XX"' .-" : .::.. :/ .A.-::. XX.X.XM...MM..X" I "--.---" ..-" .XA.--"XXXX" """XXXX" ": .X.XMX..XM..X I I"---""""" ""XXXX" :X"X :X""X ': : .X.X:.XXX.X..XX I I A . X""X " " ' : . :. ".I.XMM-"X::X I I ..:X:.. . . ' . . : "."..I.:XXX I I "XXX" ...XX... . .I. .XA"". . :."::XX::X 'X "-..X"X "XXXX" .XX.- -.XXXXX" "XXXXX" "":::.:XX":::X IXX "-. " X""X ":XXXX" "XXX . X" ": .:".:XX" :::X I. XX. "-. " ' X""X :X"X . " ..-"..:XX": :::X I . ::XX. """--. " " " " ..-" ...XX::::: :::X I :::::XXX. """----.........--" . ..XX" :::::. :::I ': ::::: "XXXX... ..:XXX":: :::::: .':X" I ::::: :::::"XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:' ::::: '::::: . :X I .'::::. ::::: ::::: .::::: :::::. ::III.. X" : .::::: ::::: ::::: :::::: :::::: :IIIII.I" :.::::: ::::: ::::: :::::: :::::: :IIIII.X" :::::: ::::: ::::: ::::::. ::::::. IIIIIIX" ::::. :::::. ::::: ::::::: '::IIII. .XIIIX" I:::.. '::::: :::::. ':::::: . :IIIII . XXXX" II:: . ::::: '::::: ::::II . IIIIII ..XXX" "II.. ::::: ::::: :::III.. IIIXXX..:XX" ". ::III .::::: . ::IIII ..:IIXXX..X" ".:IIII . :::II ..:IIIXX . .IXXXXX:" "IIIX . ::III . IIXXXX....XXXXX" "XX. .'IIXX ..'XXXXXI....XX" ".. .IXXX....XXXXXX..X:" ':XXXXI...IXXXXX:" '":XX::.XX:" '"-" BEHOLD THE GALLENTE PLASMA SHORTSWORD OF FREEDOM! THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3824	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:23:00 - [249] - Quote Wow, I'm pretty sure you copied and pasted that but bravo none the less. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7059	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:25:00 - [250] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Wow, I'm pretty sure you copied and pasted that but bravo none the less. CLOSE. It was supposed to be a copy and pasted Eagle but it didn't turn out right, then I wondered if centering it would make it right but it didn't BUT THE RESULT WAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT I WANTED! see you space cowboy...

Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3824	Posted - 2014.08.07 06:07:00 - [251] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Wow, I'm pretty sure you copied and pasted that but bravo none the less. CLOSE. It was supposed to be a copy and pasted Eagle but it didn't turn out right, then I wondered if centering it would make it right but it didn't BUT THE RESULT WAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT I WANTED! Wait so that's an eagle? (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7060	Posted - 2014.08.07 06:14:00 - [252] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Wow, I'm pretty sure you copied and pasted that but bravo none the less. CLOSE. It was supposed to be a copy and pasted Eagle but it didn't turn out right, then I wondered if centering it would make it right but it didn't BUT THE RESULT WAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT I WANTED! Wait so that's an eagle? Apparently it's a Transformer . see you space cowboy...
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 738	Posted - 2014.08.08 06:02:00 - [253] - Quote Id also at this point like to add that if you ever Squad-ed with Evicer and Cubbs (CHICAGOCUBSFOREVER) and heard him say over squad comms for example " HECA got a nano ? " or 'HECA get in " "or HECA lets go to Alpha" "Me and HECA got bravo" and didnt know what he was talking about. Thats because HECATONCHIRES BRIAREUS was to long to say so we just went with HECA for comms and he still called me that out of habit. If you didnt know that.That means I predated you. HightimesSW and Death from Afar were buddies and I started squading with them. We fought hard and then Cubbs came and Bleu Eka, Quackers (sir knight) but squads were 4 at the time and we grind-ed and grind-ed and Cubbs brought over his guy's from Socom, then the merge with Like a Boss.... and the rest is, as we say history. I was never interested in PC in its regional Lag or waking up at 2 am to fight a Japanese corp when I had to go to work the next day. Cubbs just wanted to play the shooter. Hes always said that. I like the lore and so I created this corp. I switched back to my psn ID as my main and soloed.To this day I admire Hightimes SW ,Death from Afar , And CHICAGOCUBSFOREVER for what they accomplished and still remain friends with Cubbs today. So in conclusion its not a question of who came first the chicken or the egg or Riding coattails( I know what Naruto is but admittedly never watched an episode) Regarding your belligerent rant .It has never BEEN a question of ME trying to steal YOUR thunder....... SO yes it is a great name yet you try to say by posting drop suit names in some thread and this thread that you reaearched it and that in an epiphany anfd your immense knowledge of the lore you and whomever came up with it and you should get some credit for that. Well Im sorry. IT was already here,as we've seen in the threads I have provided written on my alts. If CCP does go with Hectonchire and you think that you may in the future try some dubious underhanded sabotagery ( OH NO ) once the corp has changed over to Gallente FW, and link this thread to try and point out that I was In Amarr FW on this character you may do so at your leisure.You may point out That I was a closed beta vet a squad mate comrade basically a founding member in this game, of one of the most successful PC corp in the history of this game TeamPlayers, again you may. You may also bite down on the curb, kick rocks , and get on my level. Because in Life I keep the philosophy of Kat Williams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 42	Posted - 2014.08.08 06:33:00 - [254] - Quote Jesus Christ Evicer. No one cares, It's done, let it go.
Kat Terezi Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.08.08 08:29:00 - [255] - Quote Evicer wrote: Id also at this point like to add that if you ever Squad-ed with Evicer and Cubbs (CHICAGOCUBSFOREVER) and heard him say over squad comms for example " HECA got a nano ? " or 'HECA get in " "or HECA lets go to Alpha" "Me and HECA got bravo" and didnt know what he was talking about. Thats because HECATONCHIRES BRIAREUS was to long to say so we just went with HECA for comms and he still called me that out of habit. If you didnt know that.That means I predated you. HightimesSW and Death from Afar were buddies and I started squading with them. We fought hard and then Cubbs came and Bleu Eka, Quackers (sir knight) but squads were 4 at the time and we grind-ed and grind-ed and Cubbs brought over his guy's from Socom, then the merge with Like a Boss.... and the rest is, as we say history. I was never interested in PC in its regional Lag or waking up at 2 am to fight a Japanese corp when I had to go to work the next day. Cubbs just wanted to play the shooter. Hes always said that. I like the lore and so I created this corp. I switched back to my psn ID as my main and soloed.To this day I admire Hightimes SW ,Death from Afar , And CHICAGOCUBSFOREVER for what they accomplished and still remain friends with Cubbs today. So in conclusion its not a question of who came first the chicken or the egg or Riding coattails( I know what Naruto is but admittedly never watched an episode) Regarding your belligerent rant .It has never BEEN a question of ME trying to steal YOUR thunder....... SO yes it is a great name yet you try to say by posting drop suit names in some thread and this thread that you reaearched it and that in an epiphany anfd your immense knowledge of the lore you and whomever came up with it and you should get some credit for that. Well Im sorry. IT was already here,as we've seen in the threads I have provided written on my alts. If CCP does go with Hectonchire and you think that you may in the future try some dubious underhanded sabotagery ( OH NO ) once the corp has changed over to Gallente FW, and link this thread to try and point out that I was In Amarr FW on this character you may do so at your leisure.You may point out That I was a closed beta vet a squad mate comrade basically a founding member in this game, of one of the most successful PC corp in the history of this game TeamPlayers, again you may. You may also bite down on the curb, kick rocks , and get on my level. Because in Life I keep the philosophy of Kat Williams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk wat
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 738	Posted - 2014.08.09 05:46:00 - [256] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Jesus Christ Evicer. No one cares, It's done, let it go. So i come home last night an this guy is in a channel called Amarr OOC and he just starts up how Im a fking whinner and and fking idiot and " evicer wants us to have stupid American military names like captain" So I sit there listening to this nerd rage just shaking my head.Not saying a word as this guy tries to goad me continuos insults.I told him to take it to the forums. SO here we go.Time to apparently educate and shut down the rampant Neckbeardery. 1st off American military ranks were adopted from the British, and Europe. 2)The British Empire went on to conquer most of the known world (some of us) live in. Hence why English is spoken in most of the world. 3) Around the end of the 16th century, companies were grouped into regiments. The officers commissioned to lead these regiments were in fact called colonels (column officers). They were first appointed in Spain by King Ferdinand II of Aragon where they were also known as coronellos (crown officers) since they were appointed by the Crown. Thus the English pronunciation of the word colonel. 4) Lieutenant was derived from the French language; the lieu meaning GÇ£placeGÇ¥ as in a position; and tenant meaning GÇ£holdingGÇ¥ as in GÇ£holding a positionGÇ¥; thus a GÇ£lieutenantGÇ¥ is somebody who holds a position in the absence of his superior. When he was not assisting the captain, 5) Captain was derived from the Late Latin word capitainus (meaning "head man" or chief). Last Time I checked the name for The Gallente Federation's Infantry militia was called The "Federal Marines" not the Pantheon. Amarr, The Imperial Guard not the" beings of light army " Caldari, State Peacekeepers not Shangrala the buddist shrine of wonderment and Karmic alignment Minmatar, Republic Command not clickity clack clack I guess the names CCP came up with are dumb to you as well. The 2 Alliances that control The whole entirety of nullsec space, their names. : Goons , And Northern Alliance. Im thinking they dont care if you think their names are generic. The point is just because you can draw some imaginary line from The Jen Mei of the Gallente Federation being Oriental and of Japanese decent doesnt mean that pâôpâ¢pâ½pâÇpâ+pâópâ¦pé¦pé+pâ+Bihorud-ümonsut-ü or Daigozimon Translated Beholder a Japanese/Greek mythological creature that's a floating head with eye tentacles and turns people to stone who look at it should be used. As far as the argument that these names are for US and Not THEM. If anyone has ever heard me speak on the subject I think that a High DUST sp toon/player should be able to stand eye to eye with an EVE toon as far as wealth accumulation and a corp of 200 players Dust side should be able rival a corp of 200 EVE players on equal terms. As equals not some subservient lot. SO I dont know where you get all that with your rants. In conclusion. I love how this has turned into some "lets draw these names from these dead languages" and anything more current is dumb argument. There are probably 10 people in the whole world that can read Egyptian hieroglyphs from a culture of 6000 years ago and the only reason why we can read them is from the Roseta stone. I dont see the Archeologist that can yammering as hard as you down at the local elementary school that the kids should be learning it . Possibly, because they (unlike you) posses a monicrim of common sense.We know that Neolithic Cultures(6k years BC) existed but still can read there script. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undeciphered_writing_systems IF realism is SO important to you lets make a rl time line. Its 2014 man has not discovered a wormhole.Does not posses the ability of FTL propulsion through space. Has not colonized another planet nor can terraform it. So 2000 ? 5000 years from now the EVE gate is discovered and then add the time since its collapse (as per lore) 20,000 years, so were looking at about 22 to 25,000 years from now. YET YOU INSIST, in some rather comical fit of nerd rage that the names you have created for this LP ranking system should have some relevance to dead languages currently not in use. You asked for opinions I gave them, and got ridiculously belligerent insults and behavior in some immature fit of nerdic buttrage ,when I gave them and everyone else in this thread. I was already done with this thread yesterday with my points made yet you keep on blathering to your alts in Amarr OOC You have been weighed ,measured, and found wanting......of common sense. Back away from the bathsalts you've had too much. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7094	Posted - 2014.08.09 05:50:00 - [257] - Quote That's some great stuff Evicer, and now back to Nocturnal Soul with his investigation. Wait.... Quote: Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro WTF WHY!? Does CCP hate Gallente that much you nerf a weapon not even in the game yet :( see you space cowboy...
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 739	Posted - 2014.08.09 05:58:00 - [258] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: That's some great stuff Evicer, and now back to Nocturnal Soul with his investigation. Wait.... Quote: Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro WTF WHY!? Does CCP hate Gallente that much you nerf a weapon not even in the game yet :( Oh man they got rid of the Gauss rifle? boo Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7097	Posted - 2014.08.09 06:31:00 - [259] - Quote Evicer wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: That's some great stuff Evicer, and now back to Nocturnal Soul with his investigation. Wait.... Quote: Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro WTF WHY!? Does CCP hate Gallente that much you nerf a weapon not even in the game yet :( Edit:It was a good laugh but did you really think they'd Keep your Gallente short sword of freedom up there ? Is ASCII art against the rules ? see you space cowboy...
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 739	Posted - 2014.08.09 06:40:00 - [260] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Evicer wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: That's some great stuff Evicer, and now back to Nocturnal Soul with his investigation. Wait.... Quote: Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro WTF WHY!? Does CCP hate Gallente that much you nerf a weapon not even in the game yet :( Edit:It was a good laugh but did you really think they'd Keep your Gallente short sword of freedom up there ? Is ASCII art against the rules ? IDK.I guess it depends on their interpretation of your art. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist

Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3846	Posted - 2014.08.09 07:10:00 - [261] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Evicer wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: That's some great stuff Evicer, and now back to Nocturnal Soul with his investigation. Wait.... Quote: Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro WTF WHY!? Does CCP hate Gallente that much you nerf a weapon not even in the game yet :( Edit:It was a good laugh but did you really think they'd Keep your Gallente short sword of freedom up there ? Is ASCII art against the rules ? Awww even an Amarrian would weep to the misfortune of a masterpiece o7 (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 232	Posted - 2014.08.09 21:51:00 - [262] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Proposed Caldari Ranks by faction warfare level: 1) Camicia Nera 2) Capo Squadra 3) Aiutante 4) Sottocapomanipolo 5) Centurione 6) Seniore 7) Primo Senior 8) Console Comandante 9) Luogotenente Generale 10) Comandante Generale These are based upon the ranks used by the "Black Shirts" who were the Facist MiliiaMussolini in Italy. While they are simple ranks I feel like the italian terminology and clear connection to the terms use for ranks in Ancient Rome gives it a bit of interesting flare. I witdraw my own submission because Jaysyn Larrisen's is so excellent. I love the non-Asian/Euro specific nature as well as how you integrated the corporate titles with agressive military sounding terms. Great work! Fixed. So, just to point out a few things: Number 4 is Sotto Capo Manipolo. Aiutante is like a low grade in Italy, for sure, much lower than Capo Squadra... That said, there's a really bad thing in this rank, anyway. The first is "Camicia Nera", "Black Shirt", translated. It would certainly create huge problems to CCP here in Italy, considering that it is considered law infingement, called apology of fascism. It would be better a "Soldato Semplice" which the very first grade in the military hierarcy. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7108	Posted - 2014.08.09 23:56:00 - [263] - Quote People just don't know how to read anymore rolls eyes intensely see you space cowboy...
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 65	Posted - 2014.08.10 01:40:00 - [264] - Quote Caldari ~ Praetorian if it has to be just one If not. 1~Citizen 2~Diplomat 3~Emissary 4~Allocator 5~Inspector 6~Apothecary 7~State Guard 8~State Treasurer 9~House Praetorian 10~Leviathan relay officer (9 would be my 10, 10 was just to shine you on ) "Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
Bone Scratcher The dyst0pian Corporation 58	Posted - 2014.08.10 02:09:00 - [265] - Quote Hoping to see this - plus missing items in the LP store - in Delta! Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel. CCP's Problem
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 739	Posted - 2014.08.10 03:33:00 - [266] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Loving this Amarr 01 Knight 02 Holy Knight 03 Paladin 04 Exalted Paladin (stolen from True Adamance) 05 Holy Vanguard 06 Zealous Vanguard 07 Anointed Sword 08 Anointed Cleric 09 Imperial Crusader 10 High Imperial Reclaimer Minmatar 01 Warrior 02 Warrior Mystic 03 War Spirit 04 Nomad Wolf 05 Stormwalker 06 Voshud Spear 07 Tribal Shaman 08 Matari Shaman 09 Tribal War Chief 10 Valklear Sanmatar Warlord EDIT: Caldari and Gallente standings Caldari 01 State Ensign 02 Peacekeeper 03 Corporal 04 Sergeant 05 Lieutenant 06 Colonel 07 War Director 08 State war Director 10 Taisho Meritarch Executor Gallente 01 Militiaman 02 Milita trooper 03 Guardian 04 Operative 05 Elite Operative 06 Special Forces 07 Legionnaire 08 Legionnaire Prime 09 Federal Sentinel 10 Aegis Federal Marshal I hate to say it, but this is way more like it. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 27	Posted - 2014.08.10 08:50:00 - [267] - Quote Seems to me that this topic is getting filled with at lot of personal agendas and non-constructive conversation, so let me try helping this along. Side A: We want these names to feel awesome and important and have a connection to the lore of the eve universe, and even possibly add to this universe. We did a lot of research, and feel like names like this work best. Side B: We want names that sound like ranks, or titles of responsibility (chief, treasurer, sergeant) because they quickly denote relative standing, and because they make me feel like I am a solider, or at least a person who has earned something from their rank. Side A: We understand why you want to have your names, but feel them to be inappropriate. We have no responsibility assigned to our standings level. It only effects payout. Calling people by names suggested in your lists seems inappropriate to the lore/mechanics of the game. Other things with your lists are inconsistent with the various factions' cultures. They seem appropriate on a cursory glance based on the common perception of the races (super capitalist/communists, generic tribal people, space Americans, religious zealots), but the races are much more complex than that, and I would like to explore that lore, and get other people to explore it too. I think this is a great, non intrusive venue to explore that. Side B: I don't like your suggestions as they have no meaning to the layman, nor to us. They seem over-researched and too complex at a cursory glance. We want something with more meaning in a practical sense. Our lists get the point across nicely, and we fee like having these names lets us casually refer to (and be referred to by) others. It much easier to feel like gaining standings levels is an achievement worthy of praise when you can understand it and tell other people about how exciting it is (Or boast about it with the other forum warriors). Side C: It seems as though the community is split. Both sides have good points. It also seems that some hardcore rollplayers like the complex intricate lore as they feel connected to their race of choice, but do not necessarily enjoy being associated with some of the facets of the culture. Others like a race from it's simple ideals rather than their original racial origins. Ideally we need a system that encourages exploration and involvement in the lore of the universe, yet easily conveys rank and accomplishment to the average person, and is not so abstract or simple that it confuses/frustrates people. How about we compromise and think of solutions? If we work together we can make something that everyone can be happy and excited about, or at least not overly dislike. Now that that is all out of the way and we can get back to constructive dialog, (I know that I'm asking asking for this on an internet forum), I propose this solution. How about we have the complex lore names juxtaposed with a easy system such as numbers (or Roman numerals, or noble titles)? i.e. Gallente Rank 8 Gyges This allows ease of understanding, but includes lore elements that tie into the culture and history of the factions. I would be happy to see what other ideas people can come up with as long as they are solution oriented, and not an internet **** measuring contest. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3878	Posted - 2014.08.10 09:03:00 - [268] - Quote I like True's and Sgt Kirk's ranks for the Amarr and Gallente, oh and the Minmatar ranks the Caldari on the other hand is fantasy for my liking. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 741	Posted - 2014.08.13 05:01:00 - [269] - Quote The dev asked us for MILITIA FW ranks not what the ranks would be in say The Ministry of Internal Order or what they would be in say Wirkomi's or Kalikiota private security forces.Hes not asking us for names in npc militaries or say what the rank system would Be in the Holfast Syndicate .Which ( jokeingly ) could be "Top Slave Master" A brutor is not going to want a Sebestor name to be rank 10 and vice versa the names must be inclusive of all the bloodlines and there would be arguments there like the ones were having here. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/12/strengthening-the-link-factional-warfare-in-uprising-1.7/ Minmatar -> Republic Command: Republic Command is something of an oddity in a new order where the Minmatar tribes wield considerable power. In large part the Minmatar military has become fragmented among the tribes but a rump central command remains. The Republic Command has managed to retain control over those units that reported directly to its military council, and the elite nature of many of these forces has allowed the generals of the Command to retain significant influence. So if we use this as our example A Brutor would not join Minmitar FW if the top rank was a Sebsestor name for rank 10. Whether the names coinside with the lore is not the issue nor what he asked given all the bloodlines of new eden would a True Amarr want to join the 24th Imperial Crusade if the top rank was a Ni kunni name. No he would not so it must also coincide with all the bloodline to be inclusive of all of them to get all of them to join for the greater good. I am not saying that these names are not good for some rank in something and that they are not consistent with lore.We also need to look at cultures.Those cultures and there subdivisions. It would be as if the U>S and Chinese army wanted to join together to fight an alien invader and the chinese wanted the name General to be the rank of Private and a Chinese name to be the top rank in the chain. That wouldnt do .SO they'd have to come up with a solution they both liked.We also have to consider that ranks in militaries really have nothing at all to do with deities or monsters.It has to do with 1 guy leads 10 guys. 2 guy leads 100, and all the 1's answer to him. 2 guys answer to 3 guy, who leads 1000 guys.Thats called the decimal ranking system. Through out the ages we just came up with names for them. Thus why they would go with a rank system , and also to reiterate what the DEV asked us to come up with .......Ranks for Faction warfare militia. Not Npc corps. Like the Sanmatar Kelkoons and would they be the same names as the ones for the Company of Marcher Lords. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12832	Posted - 2014.08.13 05:03:00 - [270] - Quote Evicer wrote: The dev asked us for MILITIA FW ranks not what the ranks would be in say The Ministry of Internal Order or what they would be in say Wirkomi's or Kalikiota private security forces.Hes not asking us for names in npc militaries or say what the rank system would Be in the Holfast Syndicate .Which ( jokeingly ) could be "Top Slave Master" A brutor is not going to want a Sebestor name to be rank 10 and vice versa the names must be inclusive of all the bloodlines and there would be arguments there like the ones were having here. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/12/strengthening-the-link-factional-warfare-in-uprising-1.7/ Minmatar -> Republic Command: Republic Command is something of an oddity in a new order where the Minmatar tribes wield considerable power. In large part the Minmatar military has become fragmented among the tribes but a rump central command remains. The Republic Command has managed to retain control over those units that reported directly to its military council, and the elite nature of many of these forces has allowed the generals of the Command to retain significant influence. So if we use this as our example A Brutor would not join Minmitar FW if the top rank was a Sebsestor name for rank 10. Whether the names coinside with the lore is not the issue nor what he asked given all the bloodlines of new eden would a True Amarr want to join the 24th Imperial Crusade if the top rank was a Ni kunni name. No he would not so it must also coincide with all the bloodline to be inclusive of all of them to get all of them to join for the greater good. I am not saying that these names are not good for some rank in something and that they are not consistent with lore.We also need to look at cultures.Those cultures and there subdivisions. It would be as if the U>S and Chinese army wanted to join together to fight an alien invader and the chinese wanted the name General to be the rank of Private and a Chinese name to be the top rank in the chain. That wouldnt do .SO they'd have to come up with a solution they both liked.We also have to consider that ranks in militaries really have nothing at all to do with deities or monsters.It has to do with 1 guy leads 10 guys. 2 guy leads 100, and all the 1's answer to him. 2 guys answer to 3 guy, who leads 1000 guys.Thats called the decimal ranking system. Through out the ages we just came up with names for them. Thus why they would go with a rank system , and also to reiterate what the DEV asked us to come up with .......Ranks for Faction warfare militia. Not Npc corps. Like the Sanmatar Kelkoons and would they be the same names as the ones for the Company of Marcher Lords. For Gods sake just drop it dude..... we get it already..... with the upmost respect and our recent excursion to the EVE gate in mind.....just let it go...... Wax on Wax off "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7183	Posted - 2014.08.13 05:16:00 - [271] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: I like True's and Sgt Kirk's ranks for the Amarr and Gallente, oh and the Minmatar ranks the Caldari on the other hand is fantasy for my liking. True's list was good but I didn't create that list on my own. There a Gallente Loyalist Chat and we discussed and agreed on those rankings. So the Gallente Rankings are backed by the Three most notable Gallente Loyalist on the English forums: Arkena, Cat and Sgt Kirk, of course others like it as well ;) see you space cowboy...
ROMULUS H3X research lab 162	Posted - 2014.08.13 09:06:00 - [272] - Quote LP Forge Guns ...... Ever? FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN -Romulus H3X
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 741	Posted - 2014.08.14 06:00:00 - [273] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Evicer wrote: The dev asked us for MILITIA FW ranks not what the ranks would be in say The Ministry of Internal Order or what they would be in say Wirkomi's or Kalikiota private security forces.Hes not asking us for names in npc militaries or say what the rank system would Be in the Holfast Syndicate .Which ( jokeingly ) could be "Top Slave Master" A brutor is not going to want a Sebestor name to be rank 10 and vice versa the names must be inclusive of all the bloodlines and there would be arguments there like the ones were having here. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/12/strengthening-the-link-factional-warfare-in-uprising-1.7/ Minmatar -> Republic Command: Republic Command is something of an oddity in a new order where the Minmatar tribes wield considerable power. In large part the Minmatar military has become fragmented among the tribes but a rump central command remains. The Republic Command has managed to retain control over those units that reported directly to its military council, and the elite nature of many of these forces has allowed the generals of the Command to retain significant influence. So if we use this as our example A Brutor would not join Minmitar FW if the top rank was a Sebsestor name for rank 10. Whether the names coinside with the lore is not the issue nor what he asked given all the bloodlines of new eden would a True Amarr want to join the 24th Imperial Crusade if the top rank was a Ni kunni name. No he would not so it must also coincide with all the bloodline to be inclusive of all of them to get all of them to join for the greater good. I am not saying that these names are not good for some rank in something and that they are not consistent with lore.We also need to look at cultures.Those cultures and there subdivisions. It would be as if the U>S and Chinese army wanted to join together to fight an alien invader and the chinese wanted the name General to be the rank of Private and a Chinese name to be the top rank in the chain. That wouldnt do .SO they'd have to come up with a solution they both liked.We also have to consider that ranks in militaries really have nothing at all to do with deities or monsters.It has to do with 1 guy leads 10 guys. 2 guy leads 100, and all the 1's answer to him. 2 guys answer to 3 guy, who leads 1000 guys.Thats called the decimal ranking system. Through out the ages we just came up with names for them. Thus why they would go with a rank system , and also to reiterate what the DEV asked us to come up with .......Ranks for Faction warfare militia. Not Npc corps. Like the Sanmatar Kelkoons and would they be the same names as the ones for the Company of Marcher Lords. For Gods sake just drop it dude..... we get it already..... with the upmost respect and our recent excursion to the EVE gate in mind.....just let it go...... Wax on Wax off Im going to say whatever I want, for how ever long I want. If you and others can type page upon page to bend their (CCP) ears towards what you want and voice your opinions so can I .Really its not even about that it's this perceived notion that since you and some others "voice" so much that you are some how Represenetives for your factions in all matters. Which is not the case. Just because people pad their likes doesnt mean ** to me Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 58	Posted - 2014.08.14 06:34:00 - [274] - Quote If you want to create page after page of your own ideas, feel free to Evicer. Rattati has asked people to stop creating page after page of negative minded rants about other peoples ideas, which is what you're doing. Either be constructive, or offer constructive criticism. Quit nitpicking. If you want to try and find some way to reconcile the ideas that Galm, Mina and Myself have offered with your own personal ideas like Ceej Mantis has suggested, feel free to. Until then, stop being a ****head and trying to shoot others ideas down with little justification beyond "I don't like it" or "my own tenuous grasp of lore disagrees with this".
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 743	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:08:00 - [275] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: If you want to create page after page of your own ideas, feel free to Evicer. Rattati has asked people to stop creating page after page of negative minded rants about other peoples ideas, which is what you're doing. Either be constructive, or offer constructive criticism. Quit nitpicking. If you want to try and find some way to reconcile the ideas that Galm, Mina and Myself have offered with your own personal ideas like Ceej Mantis has suggested, feel free to. Until then, stop being a **head and trying to shoot others ideas down with little justification beyond "I don't like it" or "my own tenuous grasp of lore disagrees with this". Reading comprehension ..... is what you need and a firm grasp of reality Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 743	Posted - 2014.08.15 06:28:00 - [276] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: I "my own tenuous grasp of lore disagrees with this". 1 Were not angels we're clone tech Jovian tech, bio tech 2 Our suits and weapons were made for ordinary men 3 Were not angels were soldiers.The only difference between us and a normal man is we get up and do it again, and again, and again, 4 If were talking about speed or feats of stamina our clones are taking pills that would kill a normal man after too much use but we dont care because if the heart explodes. we'll get a new body. So the pills are pharmaceuticals. Medical tech 5 When we look at his do we say this is GOD ? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1WlAhDIG444/T4MqSjDWmVI/AAAAAAAAAEY/cLdw_JF0wbE/s400/cow+on+steroids.jpg No we say its a cow on steroids and growth hormones.Normal men would say the same about us. 6 Jumping off of heights doesn't scare us because if we break a bone we'll be in a new body in about 5 minutes. 7 Jamyl would not issue a manhunt for Seraphim (angels) that would be heresy. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=853076#post853076 and by her statement clearly knows we are clone soldiers with implants....TECHNOLOGY 8 Ordinary npc men could join the Imperial Guard or is there only 200 ? 300 ? people in it ? No..... its an army that has normal men in it....... LEGIONS .A normal man may in fact reach the rank 10 position after a long career and he is not seraphim. Im talking about each INSTITUTION as it is in New Eden and within that context. 9 Gallente Im not seeing anywhere in the lore where they name there spec ops or military after greek deities/demigods/monsters https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Gallente#Military exert Black Eagles The Black Eagles are the Federal Intelligence service and report to the President. Their tactics, referred to as protocols, are named with the type of protocol, a symbol, and a number. Protocol Alpha-Three was the protocol executed in the apprehension attempt of Jacus Roden......... huh ? Not seeing any greek references in there. I think its rather hilarious that both EVE and Dust players think that man of the future has lost all reasoning and logic, and that these npc peoples look at technology as magic or something, and Im just not seeing it. Example of a conversation between a EVE player and a certain dust player that I keep hearing. Eve player "a Dreadnought can glass a whole continent.Thats why were better than you Dust ground pounders.Its in the lore" Dust player " A dust char will kill 10's of thousands of people in there career. Its in the stats.Its in the lore" Both " The people of New Eden would call us Gods"......... No they wouldn't.......**** had 6 million people killed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Holocaust_deaths Sub section 4.4 . Was he a God ? No just a man. No god like powers kept him from being found burnt to a crisp. Was he called God. No. JUst a Leader . Just a Chancellor.....just a man. What if I told you there were men that, with a push of a button could turn this whole entire planet, everyone, and everything on it ,into glass and ash and send this planet into a nuclear winter that would last for 200 years ? Would we call him God ? Would we pray to him ? What would we call him ? President of the United States, and the Russian Federation. HMMMM I dont see GOD or anything like that in the word PRESIDENT.I wonder if they have ranks in the military and what those are ? Well lets see....AH The President of the UNited States does have a military rank and guess what it is ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States exert commander-in-chief and Russia's ? Does he have a military rank ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Russia Supreme Commander-in-chief. I guess Putin wanted Sour cream on his I guess. (refering to tacos) Point is do you pray to these men ? Im just saying, as for me, I dont. You know why you dont ? Because they cant kill with a thought, levitate, teleport, read your mind, dont have telekinesis.Cannot reanimate / heal / revive a 100 year old corpse. Can not generate a nuclear explosion with a thought and could not survive one. Just because you can point to some perceived mythos or say WE think they use these words based on some rather questionable reading comprehension of the lore.That you think that they use them and in this context IS the issue. IT does not mean that WE soldiers,instruments of warfare, military Jovian bio TECHNOLOGY. Would be perceived 10 thousand years in the future as gods. Any person in New Eden with enough ISK could have this done to themselves. The dropsuits that we wear were made for normal men. The ships we fly . For normal men..... Jovian tech...The Amarr dont worship the Jovians. Matter of fact we went to war against them. First capsuleer tech was given by the Jovians to the Caldari to fight the Gallente. Everyone in New Eden (Npc common man) knows that Its just technology. That's why in game a pilot would never agree to you having a deified rank. You're just a clone, like them. This whole Idea that "Man" in New Eden thinks that we clones are gods is so utterly ridiculously nonsensical, its astounding. Chuck Norris round house kicks any and all geebs who use "do you read the lore" as the basis for their arguments without proper context or rational. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 67	Posted - 2014.08.15 07:33:00 - [277] - Quote Evicer, you're ranting over all sorts of wild things that were never said or even claimed. Honestly, knock it off. To explain my position again in concise terms: 1) while the organizations we are fighting for may be militaries in their own right, we are not actually part of them, we work for them as mercenaries thus I feel titles of 'responsibility' are inappropriate. 2) As I feel titles of responsibility are inappropriate investigation was done into the linguistic origins of each race (and as individual dialects cannot be pinned down, we're operating off the assumption of a 'common' language for each race) to create the ranks. 3) There's something like half a million capsuleers or so I estimate, there's probably less than 40 000 immortal mercenaries, the power we have to sway ground wars is unbelievable for example - In order to get from rank 9 to rank 10 one needs to win 200 matches (conquer 200 districts) as planets have 24 districts this amounts to having to conquer 8.33~ planets for one rank increase that is in itself a feat of absolutely mythical proportions which I feel justifies the 'supernatural' theme of the 8 9 and 10 ranks (as to get to rank 10 you have to have done something like flipped what amounts to almost 20 planets). No one here has made the claim that our clones are angels, or demons or etcetera, merely that if we were to do something like conquer 20+ planets with sixteen people the perception would be that we are accomplishing unheard feats of almost mythological scale, things that should resonate among their respective cultures as being nothing short of heroism or 'godhood' (y'know that thing that's repeated ad nauseum in eve). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jfFKSIqkvM This trailer outright calls one a 'demigod' in it, Is it literal? No, it's a euphemism or an abstraction. Members of the immortal mercenary initiative are demigods every bit as much as capsuleers are. Our titles should be impressive and full of pomp respective to race. There are hundreds of billions of 'mortals' in new eden, there is less than 600 000 capsuleers, there is less than fifty thousand immortal mercenaries - empires are terrified of the potential we possess, we are to be feared, our loyalty should be worthy of myth and scripture.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3985	Posted - 2014.08.15 07:52:00 - [278] - Quote The dropsuits we wear were made for clones not normal men. Clones are 7ft tall, that's something that's very rare for a regular man to be. Scouts have 2 hearts, heavies have 2 spines that are probably reinforced. Amarrian dropsuits connect to the spinal cord during the process of integration that's something that would kill a normal man. Also normal men don't wear power suits that kill them with radiation that's supposed to protect them. Eve pilots are very commonly referred to as Gods since sooner or later you would get your ship blown up but that doesn't matter since it's just isk right? Wrong there are people on that ship that operate it, live on it and even support and have their families life on that ship. There are lore stories backing what I say if you care to search for it. The plasma rifle sets you on fire if you didn't wear protection The Scr, Scp, and Lr instantly incinerate the man using it Rail tech brakes the bones of the user because of its strong kick And minmatar.... well yeah Anyway just stop already no one cares because the topic has been derailed so far off the edge I'd be better to make a new thread. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 745	Posted - 2014.08.15 08:14:00 - [279] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: The dropsuits we wear were made for clones not normal men. Clones are 7ft tall, that's something that's very rare for a regular man to be. Scouts have 2 hearts, heavies have 2 spines that are probably reinforced. Amarrian dropsuits connect to the spinal cord during the process of integration that's something that would kill a normal man. Also normal men don't wear power suits that kill them with radiation that's supposed to protect them. Eve pilots are very commonly referred to as Gods since sooner or later you would get your ship blown up but that doesn't matter since it's just isk right? Wrong there are people on that ship that operate it, live on it and even support and have their families life on that ship. There are lore stories backing what I say if you care to search for it. The plasma rifle sets you on fire if you didn't wear protection The Scr, Scp, and Lr instantly incinerate the man using it Rail tech brakes the bones of the user because of its strong kick And minmatar.... well yeah Anyway just stop already no one cares because the topic has been derailed so far off the edge I'd be better to make a new thread. When you go on a cruise ship with your wife do you call the Captain of that ship god ? there are 5000 people on an aircraft carrier in the US Navy. Do they call the Captain of that ship God ? You did see the picture of the cow right ? Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 745	Posted - 2014.08.15 08:19:00 - [280] - Quote Use the same ranks from Eve just remove Commodore and add General for Amarr FW ranks. Ill say it again use all the same ranks EVE side but remove the Nautical names and replace with land based military ranks. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist

Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3985	Posted - 2014.08.15 08:58:00 - [281] - Quote Evicer wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The dropsuits we wear were made for clones not normal men. Clones are 7ft tall, that's something that's very rare for a regular man to be. Scouts have 2 hearts, heavies have 2 spines that are probably reinforced. Amarrian dropsuits connect to the spinal cord during the process of integration that's something that would kill a normal man. Also normal men don't wear power suits that kill them with radiation that's supposed to protect them. Eve pilots are very commonly referred to as Gods since sooner or later you would get your ship blown up but that doesn't matter since it's just isk right? Wrong there are people on that ship that operate it, live on it and even support and have their families life on that ship. There are lore stories backing what I say if you care to search for it. The plasma rifle sets you on fire if you didn't wear protection The Scr, Scp, and Lr instantly incinerate the man using it Rail tech brakes the bones of the user because of its strong kick And minmatar.... well yeah Anyway just stop already no one cares because the topic has been derailed so far off the edge I'd be better to make a new thread. When you go on a cruise ship with your wife do you call the Captain of that ship god ? there are 5000 people on an aircraft carrier in the US Navy. Do they call the Captain of that ship God ? You did see the picture of the cow right ? Is that cruise ship capable of flying through space at speed of 1000km? Is it able to destroy a entire city with lasers? Is the captain able to retain his memories after being killed? Is he kept alive in a pod able to navigate space and completely halt the aging of the human body? Is that captain able to process the radial velocity of an interceptor using an afterburner? Is that captain able mine the surface of planets and moons without regulation of the government? Evicer I failing to see what your intentions are in this argument since I've just recently been bothered by your words. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 746	Posted - 2014.08.16 04:54:00 - [282] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Evicer wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The dropsuits we wear were made for clones not normal men. Clones are 7ft tall, that's something that's very rare for a regular man to be. Scouts have 2 hearts, heavies have 2 spines that are probably reinforced. Amarrian dropsuits connect to the spinal cord during the process of integration that's something that would kill a normal man. Also normal men don't wear power suits that kill them with radiation that's supposed to protect them. Eve pilots are very commonly referred to as Gods since sooner or later you would get your ship blown up but that doesn't matter since it's just isk right? Wrong there are people on that ship that operate it, live on it and even support and have their families life on that ship. There are lore stories backing what I say if you care to search for it. The plasma rifle sets you on fire if you didn't wear protection The Scr, Scp, and Lr instantly incinerate the man using it Rail tech brakes the bones of the user because of its strong kick And minmatar.... well yeah Anyway just stop already no one cares because the topic has been derailed so far off the edge I'd be better to make a new thread. When you go on a cruise ship with your wife do you call the Captain of that ship god ? there are 5000 people on an aircraft carrier in the US Navy. Do they call the Captain of that ship God ? You did see the picture of the cow right ? Is that cruise ship capable of flying through space at speed of 1000km? Is it able to destroy a entire city with lasers? Is the captain able to retain his memories after being killed? Is he kept alive in a pod able to navigate space and completely halt the aging of the human body? Is that captain able to process the radial velocity of an interceptor using an afterburner? Is that captain able mine the surface of planets and moons without regulation of the government? Evicer I failing to see what your intentions are in this argument since I've just recently been bothered by your words. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/10/dust-514-live-event-mordus-challenge-starts-tomorrow/ Official ] exerts: Cloned soldier,weapon, millions of cloned soldiers. https://dust514.com/events/million-clone-challenge/ Official ] Million-CLONE-challenge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_514 Wikipedia exert: However, the discovery of a specialimplant made it possible to achieve a transfer of consciousness without the use of a capsule, so it became possible to make immortals that were not pilots. Dust 514 players take the role of immortal ground-based soldiers which were created by the military shortly after the implant was discovered. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Jove_Empire_NPC_Corporations https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Genolution_%28NPC_corporation%29 Official ] Jovian corporation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_GRjNL7l40 @ 4:52 Official ] 315,456,123 Clones destroyed / 5,217,954 Clone self destruct https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Tags_for_Security Official ] exert [FACTION] Clone Soldier Trainer: In charge of funds, equipment and locales used in the preparation and deployment of clone soldiers loyal to the faction. [FACTION] Clone Soldier Recruiter: In charge of scouting vulnerable areas - remote planets, isolated outposts, interstellar colonies and other places that hold human life - with the aim of bringing in new recruits for the pirates' clone soldier programs. [FACTION] Clone Soldier Transporter: Responsible for the swift conveyance of clone soldiers to their intended destination. [FACTION] Clone Soldier Negotiator: A fixer who establishes contracts between pirate-trained clone soldiers and those who might employ their services. You are weapon.A piece of Bio tech (clone body) produced in mass quantity, equipped with weapons and suits made in factories, by MEN in those factories.... Your consciousness is allowed to transfer via an Augmentation created by Genolution a Jovian Biotech corp which installs those into the clone body. and if you are referring to this https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Infantry_Gear:Dropsuits So I guess the man that makes the CRU in a factory is our god ? Since the CRU is making us ? You're military technology. Jovian Technology. We're made like LAV's HAV's, and dropships using nano tech. That a man invented. This just how MAN of the future uses clones to wage infantry wars and its becoming common place as all empires are switching over to this tech. We're not gods or demigods we're soldiers. Sorry to break it to you guys. We're just a suped up sports car, mass produced with a nutcased driver behind the wheel, in a race against 16 other cars with nutcases , who arn't afraid to crash them ,and anybody with enough cash can enter the race.... So in conclusion you're a soldier albeit a persistent one made possible by Jovian man made tech. The Amarr would not pray to that. That would be Heresy. and sense they're the only ones in the cluster that do pray... Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 75	Posted - 2014.08.16 05:09:00 - [283] - Quote You're not making the point you think you're making Evicer. Capsuleers are clones as well and they're still referred to as demigods. No one would be worshipping the fact that an individual is a clone, they'd be honoring an individual who delivered 20+ planets to them with an abstract title. The Minmatar would be showing respect to a freedom fighter. The Gallente would be brimming with pride over a freedom fighter. The Caldari would be immortalizing a champion of the state. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 748	Posted - 2014.08.16 05:18:00 - [284] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: You're not making the point you think you're making Evicer. Capsuleers are clones as well and they're still referred to as demigods. No one would be worshipping the fact that an individual is a clone, they'd be honoring an individual who delivered 20+ planets to them with an abstract title. The Minmatar would be showing respect to a freedom fighter. The Gallente would be brimming with pride over a freedom fighter. The Caldari would be immortalizing a champion of the state. You're soldier and they have a parade for you .they dont prostrate them selves and commence to bowing with clasped hands. The next day another cloned soldier takes back those same 20 planets. What is your point ? Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 748	Posted - 2014.08.17 00:10:00 - [285] - Quote Now I could see a government giving boon to a war hero and yes land and title or even Governance within the frame work of those governments. After a long career governments do placate there Generals by doing this or within Democracies these same war heros go on to political careers.I've always said this. julius Ceaser and Napoleon went on to stage coup d'+¬tat's which over threw the perspective government to which they were previously employed..........and that is why we're dangerous.Why the Empires fear us.In that regard. 12 US Presidents were Generals Now what could logically be said that after a player (and there character in game) has participated winning close to 700 battles and taken this much territory for the glory of there perspective Empires. I fully agree to that. Now within the game mechanics this is feasible and explainable from an Rp standpoint. We could say that the level 10 is given governance but all taxes are still received by each Empire and so the player gets no monetary gain from this.CCP could say that we have been awarded this in high sec some where. CCP could also be vague as to where exactly. Leaving it open to the player but no actual mechanic is being affected. So lets look at those titles within the frame work of each Goverment. Working under the assumption that these governments would do this. NOTE: within the context of their governments For the Amarr at level 10 Words that hit me are: Lord, Lord Governor, Divine Governor Level 10 Gallente : Senator, Governor, Legislator as they are a Democracy Please note these titles are in English Now some may say these names are generic. They are intended to be. There are 4 political parties in Gallente politics this leaves the player and the character with the ability to explore there own social political ideologies within the frame work.Also as far as Amarr politics there are differences in opinion as to Holder,liberal Holder , Reclaimers and Simply rich Amarr. Also as afore mentioned a DUST player could do this and pursue his own career in PC and take public contracts.CCP explains that taxes are collected by the STATE"S (no player benefit in mechanics) and if you do this and PC your able to collect your own monies from the Geno sales that you and your corp mates control in Null sec from district owner ship. and Thus what we have here is REAL connection between the 2 games from a political standpoint. Let levels 9 be terms like General ,Commander, Marshal ,,,,and if the players want TITLE as boon then make level 10 something they conveys governance. We could turn the forums of Legion/EvE into a REAL forum where by Legion and EVE players would or could argue with in Character oratory about the direction of there Empires. Political parties could be formed, rivalries,subterfuge and blackmail....... now were talking about a game. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 748	Posted - 2014.08.17 00:21:00 - [286] - Quote mess up Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 31	Posted - 2014.08.17 03:41:00 - [287] - Quote Evicer wrote: Level 10 Gallente : Senator, Governor, Legislator as they are a Democracy . I see, so that's how a democracy works. You kill enough people and they hand you titles. I can make laws now! And to think I thought I had to campaign and stuff. This explains the CPM as well. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 31	Posted - 2014.08.17 04:23:00 - [288] - Quote Joking aside, Evicer, while I applaud you finally coming up with SOMETHING of your own, I dislike the idea of tying power a title of a militia mercenary. I fight for the Gallente, and when the dust settles I pick up my loot, walk to the other side of the battlefield, and fight for the Caldari. I fight for the Amarr, and I do it all without consequence (besides the slight standings loss). It doesn't seem lore worthy to give titles with responsibility to people with no contracts or official loyalties. As immortal mercenaries, we fight for whomever we choose. While I can see fancy title that denotes battle prowess, and even pay grade, I don't see governance as something on our list of rewards. Especially from a company that is merely hired by an empire, rather than Besides, if you define nothing you can make your own backstory without needing certain game performance to back it up. It's way more fun that way. I'd like to see a title that is less hierarchical, and really just a simple title worth nothing more than increased payout and bragging rights. We don't need people who have more time/skill making decisions that change the fate of the galaxy based purely on that merit. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7290	Posted - 2014.08.17 04:35:00 - [289] - Quote @CeeJ Mantis Problem is that we can be more than mercenaries. Not just mercenaries. CCP yet again failed to explain the lore behind this game which leads to people saying what you just said. Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 83	Posted - 2014.08.17 04:44:00 - [290] - Quote Evicer wrote: You're soldier and they have a parade for you .they dont prostrate them selves and commence to bowing with clasped hands. The next day another cloned soldier takes back those same 20 planets. What is your point ? EDIT: As far as a EVE player being a demigod I dont subscribe to that either. Pull your Super cap or Titan into high sec and see what happens.....You'd be blown apart by Concord.....NPC humans You not 'subscribing' to it is irrelevant, As far as the ingame universe is concerned it is a fact. Not liking a fact doesn't mean its not true. Even people who hate the capsuleers or immortal mercenaries maintain a respectful awe for them- and for those that serve their respective empires so well, being viewed as something akin to a saint is appropriate (y'know, we do that in real life - worship people who have died but accomplished amazing things in their life, or stood for important issues. The only difference between 'Saints' and our characters in game, is that permanent death is damn near impossible for our characters). And as the video I linked stated 'You are not alone with such powers'. Just because there's other demigods out there the importance of our actions isn't diminished. And no, functionally we are not 'soldiers'. We're mercenaries - and there's a big difference in those words, because we are independent and free, we choose what we want to do. To quote two things I feel are appropriate : "A man chooses, a slave obeys" and "A hero is just a man who knows he's free". I am not a slave of the Amarr empire, though I choose to fight for it. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.

CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 31	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:09:00 - [291] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: @CeeJ Mantis Problem is that we can be more than mercenaries. Not just mercenaries. CCP yet again failed to explain the lore behind this game which leads to people saying what you just said. And we can do that if we want, but being politicians or officers without any power is just as boring as just having a simple title. We needn't devise systems that don't do anything, and this system is especially inept due to it's limitations. We can allow our imaginations to do that instead. I'd prefer to keep it simple and start with just a name, and when systems arise that better allow for such expansion, then we get back to the drawing board. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7291	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:16:00 - [292] - Quote Once again Immortal Soldiers =/= Mercenary Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 83	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:48:00 - [293] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Once again Immortal Soldiers =/= Mercenary Until we have the ability to choose who we fight for beyond just facwar, with corporate standings towards those we fight for, and this game isn't just a lobby shooter and it has a lot more depth by being able to do so stuff like travel around the universe, we are simply mercenaries. If you want to pretend that you're a 'general' in your own corp, or that you were a 'seargeant' named 'kirk' before becoming an immortal mercenary that's all well and good, but it doesn't apply nor should it apply to factional titles because there is no responsibility associated with them. There isn't any requirement that a standing 6 'seargeant' / 'general' / 'what have you' needs to queue for a facwar match for a match to even show up. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 748	Posted - 2014.08.17 09:13:00 - [294] - Quote CeeJ Mantis wrote: Evicer wrote: Level 10 Gallente : Senator, Governor, Legislator as they are a Democracy . I see, so that's how a democracy works. You kill enough people and they hand you titles. I can make laws now! And to think I thought I had to campaign and stuff. This explains the CPM as well. No your not actually making laws or even making decisions for players.I was just trying to fond some middle ground between people wanting Titles and what already exist Eve side. They have military titles and Im fine with that. As far as Democracies awarding war heroes. Yeah 12 Generals have become president in the US. Heres a link I found on US Congressmen and Senators who have served in the military. https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080214052949AAut862 more than 1 hundred by a rough count and that only goes back to 1957 Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 748	Posted - 2014.08.17 09:29:00 - [295] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Once again Immortal Soldiers =/= Mercenary Until we have the ability to choose who we fight for beyond just facwar, with corporate standings towards those we fight for, and this game isn't just a lobby shooter and it has a lot more depth by being able to do so stuff like travel around the universe, we are simply mercenaries. If you want to pretend that you're a 'general' in your own corp, or that you were a 'seargeant' named 'kirk' before becoming an immortal mercenary that's all well and good, but it doesn't apply nor should it apply to factional titles because there is no responsibility associated with them. There isn't any requirement that a standing 6 'seargeant' / 'general' / 'what have you' needs to queue for a facwar match for a match to even show up. You make no sense you defended the idea being called a demigod for page upon page and being Titled as such and then in the next post you argue that were just mercenaries. As for Saints we are not Saints either were killers. Off the top of my head without researching it im pretty sure no Templar was ever canonized. I looked for about 15 minutes and read some articles and Im not finding any record of a Templar being Canonized. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 748	Posted - 2014.08.17 09:46:00 - [296] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: To quote two things I feel are appropriate : "A man chooses, a slave obeys" and "A hero is just a man who knows he's free". I am not a slave of the Amarr empire, though I choose to fight for it. Thank you for proving my point with your own words.Amarr citizens arent going to pray to you, because they're not slaves. When the Amarr conquered the Minmitar they didnt say " You prey to us. We the Amarr people" They attempted to convert them to pray to 'Their " god. The Amarr god of The Amarr religion not The Amarr people. Thats why I say your titles are heresy. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 83	Posted - 2014.08.17 09:51:00 - [297] - Quote Don't cherrypick things I've said to try and misconstrue and twist them into saying things I haven't evicer. You are debating like a ****ing idiot. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 748	Posted - 2014.08.17 18:43:00 - [298] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Don't cherrypick things I've said to try and misconstrue and twist them into saying things I haven't evicer. You are debating like a **ing idiot. . Im not getting angry at all. The only person getting belligerent is you Malleus Malificorum wrote: In any case, for the last 5 or so pages, you haven't bothered to come up with a single original line of discussion or act in the least bit constructive or positive. Post: 282 Im trying to meet people half way that want there FW RANK to be a TITLE that conveys some power in game in a realistic way Malleus Malificorum wrote: You've just been whining that you don't like what other people have created and tantrumed about how they should create things that represent your views. More childish goading in an attempt to get me to act as belligerent as your self Malleus Malificorum wrote: I think I'm done conversing with you on any level as you repeat the same pattern of getting angry, then belligerent and abusive, then making some wild (and untrue) claims of how important you are, Yeah Im not seeing a pattern of belligerence in my post. Yours on the other hand. As far as you conversing with me. Thank god, and I wish that were a true statement. Were not talking about me were talking about the game.About names for FW ranks. You need to get back on the subject at hand and give some citation in game as to why we would have name of deities for FW ranks. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Grease Spillett research lab 433	Posted - 2014.08.17 18:51:00 - [299] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: An idea I had was to show LP standings as a forum tag. If anyone is interested in helping me make a cool lore case, please reply to this thread like this: "Standing" - "Honorary Title" Gallente 10 General 9 Lord Marshall ... ... Caldari 10 Chancellor Minmatar 10 Warlord Amarr 10 High Priest etc. I just had a f****** nerd gasm all over my computer. Next time you see me, bring more friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
MINA Longstrike 1114	Posted - 2014.08.17 22:58:00 - [300] - Quote Evicer wrote: Were not talking about me were talking about the game.About names for FW ranks. You need to get back on the subject at hand and give some citation in game as to why we would have name of deities for FW ranks. No, we are talking about you, because you refuse to discuss things in good nature, you're doing whatever you can to drag things off topic and spout ad hominem about people. As far as 'giving citation', it has been explained repeatedly and in great detail why those names were chosen, you choosing not to take the time to understand another position doesn't mean it has no merit and it certainly doesn't mean it should be explained again. Conversation was good up until you and a few others jumped in here and then it went from "Here's my idea and why I think it has merit" and someone else going "Okay, let me iterate on that or come up with something else" to "DEFEND YOUR IDEA BECAUSE THIS IS THE WORST PIECE OF ** I'VE EVER HEARD FROM THE DUMBEST PERSON I'VE EVER SEEN". One is good natured, the other seeks only to antagonize or ridicule. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.

l''l Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 34	Posted - 2014.08.19 03:19:00 - [301] - Quote I think level 10 Mimitar should be Ten mock tow
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7306	Posted - 2014.08.19 03:32:00 - [302] - Quote CeeJ Mantis wrote: Seems to me that this topic is getting filled with at lot of personal agendas and non-constructive conversation, so let me try helping this along. Side A: We want these names to feel awesome and important and have a connection to the lore of the eve universe, and even possibly add to this universe. We did a lot of research, and feel like names like this work best. Side B: We want names that sound like ranks, or titles of responsibility (chief, treasurer, sergeant) because they quickly denote relative standing, and because they make me feel like I am a solider, or at least a person who has earned something from their rank. Side A: We understand why you want to have your names, but feel them to be inappropriate. We have no responsibility assigned to our standings level. It only effects payout. Calling people by names suggested in your lists seems inappropriate to the lore/mechanics of the game. Other things with your lists are inconsistent with the various factions' cultures. They seem appropriate on a cursory glance based on the common perception of the races (super capitalist/communists, generic tribal people, space Americans, religious zealots), but the races are much more complex than that, and I would like to explore that lore, and get other people to explore it too. I think this is a great, non intrusive venue to explore that. Side B: I don't like your suggestions as they have no meaning to the layman, nor to us. They seem over-researched and too complex at a cursory glance. We want something with more meaning in a practical sense. Our lists get the point across nicely, and we fee like having these names lets us casually refer to (and be referred to by) others. It much easier to feel like gaining standings levels is an achievement worthy of praise when you can understand it and tell other people about how exciting it is (Or boast about it with the other forum warriors). Side C: It seems as though the community is split. Both sides have good points. It also seems that some hardcore rollplayers like the complex intricate lore as they feel connected to their race of choice, but do not necessarily enjoy being associated with some of the facets of the culture. Others like a race from it's simple ideals rather than their original racial origins. Ideally we need a system that encourages exploration and involvement in the lore of the universe, yet easily conveys rank and accomplishment to the average person, and is not so abstract or simple that it confuses/frustrates people. How about we compromise and think of solutions? If we work together we can make something that everyone can be happy and excited about, or at least not overly dislike. Now that that is all out of the way and we can get back to constructive dialog, (I know that I'm asking asking for this on an internet forum), I propose this solution. How about we have the complex lore names juxtaposed with a easy system such as numbers (or Roman numerals, or noble titles)? i.e. Gallente Rank 8 Gyges This allows ease of understanding, but includes lore elements that tie into the culture and history of the factions. I would be happy to see what other ideas people can come up with as long as they are solution oriented, and not an internet **** measuring contest. This is not a good summarization. You said that Side A prefers the sounds of actual ranks when this isn't the case. Traditional sounding ranks would only work with Caldari and Gallente the same area of ranking would not work for Minmatar and Amarr. You have to look into more than just one area of a races lore, I.E. background to give them their rankings. There's much more to what the realist are saying than what you're oversimplifiing here. Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
MINA Longstrike 1117	Posted - 2014.08.19 04:07:00 - [303] - Quote No Kirk, that was side b. please re-read what you quoted. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 748	Posted - 2014.08.19 04:11:00 - [304] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Evicer wrote: Were not talking about me were talking about the game.About names for FW ranks. You need to get back on the subject at hand and give some citation in game as to why we would have name of deities for FW ranks. No, we are talking about you, because you refuse to discuss things in good nature, you're doing whatever you can to drag things off topic and spout ad hominem about people. As far as 'giving citation', it has been explained repeatedly and in great detail why those names were chosen, you choosing not to take the time to understand another position doesn't mean it has no merit and it certainly doesn't mean it should be explained again. Conversation was good up until you and a few others jumped in here and then it went from "Here's my idea and why I think it has merit" and someone else going "Okay, let me iterate on that or come up with something else" to "DEFEND YOUR IDEA BECAUSE THIS IS THE WORST PIECE OF ** I'VE EVER HEARD FROM THE DUMBEST PERSON I'VE EVER SEEN". One is good natured, the other seeks only to antagonize or ridicule. This is called a Red herring by those of you who dont know. All the while avoiding the issue as to why he thinks his idea has any merit and ignoring that fact its not even popular. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 748	Posted - 2014.08.19 04:18:00 - [305] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Once again Immortal Soldiers =/= Mercenary . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum If you want to pretend that you're a 'general' in your own corp, or that you were a 'seargeant' named 'kirk' before becoming an immortal mercenary that's all well and good, but it doesn't apply nor should it apply to factional titles because there is [b]no responsibility associated with them.. Now on to you ...if you want to pretend your a Witch hammer deity/Angel than call your toon that and back off Kirk for putting Seargent in his. You have no ground to stand on. If you want to RP you're descended from Seraphim have your corp give you a Title. SO were listening please tell us why you think Angel names should be associated with The imperial Guard Oh and btw you spelt it wrong . Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7306	Posted - 2014.08.19 04:26:00 - [306] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: No Kirk, that was side b. please re-read what you quoted. If it was pretty obvious I meant side B and was a typo why would you bother to post a correction. Looks at Evicer's Red Herring comment ohh it all makes since. Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7306	Posted - 2014.08.19 04:32:00 - [307] - Quote Woah, hold on here. The Sgt in my name is a nickname literally because I'm usually squad lead. It has nothing to do with role play. although I have made up a story where I always ended up leading a squad in my character background. Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
MINA Longstrike 1117	Posted - 2014.08.19 04:48:00 - [308] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: No Kirk, that was side b. please re-read what you quoted. If it was pretty obvious I meant side B and was a typo why would you bother to post a correction. Looks at Evicer's Red Herring comment ohh it all makes since. No I genuinely thought you meant side a. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1117	Posted - 2014.08.19 04:50:00 - [309] - Quote Evicer wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Once again Immortal Soldiers =/= Mercenary . If you want to pretend that you're a 'general' in your own corp, or that you were a 'seargeant' named 'kirk' before becoming an immortal mercenary that's all well and good, but it doesn't apply nor should it apply to factional titles because there is [b]no responsibility associated with them.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum Now on to you ...if you want to pretend your a Witch hammer deity/Angel than call your toon that and back off Kirk for putting Seargent in his. You have no ground to stand on. If you want to RP you're descended from Seraphim have your corp give you a Title. SO were listening please tell us why you think Angel names should be associated with The imperial Guard Oh and btw you spelt it wrong . Lovely continued ad hominem evicer. Please keep on attacking the characteristics of people rather than their arguments and wonder why no one cares what you think. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 750	Posted - 2014.08.19 08:03:00 - [310] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Evicer wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Once again Immortal Soldiers =/= Mercenary . If you want to pretend that you're a 'general' in your own corp, or that you were a 'seargeant' named 'kirk' before becoming an immortal mercenary that's all well and good, but it doesn't apply nor should it apply to factional titles because there is [b]no responsibility associated with them.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum Now on to you ...if you want to pretend your a Witch hammer deity/Angel than call your toon that and back off Kirk for putting Seargent in his. You have no ground to stand on. If you want to RP you're descended from Seraphim have your corp give you a Title. SO were listening please tell us why you think Angel names should be associated with The imperial Guard Oh and btw you spelt it wrong . Lovely continued ad hominem evicer. Please keep on attacking the characteristics of people rather than their arguments and wonder why no one cares what you think. lol Whats next grammar and punctuation followed by spelling , to argue your points.You're A typical. You are transparent to me, I see through you. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5445	Posted - 2014.08.19 09:43:00 - [311] - Quote I don't even have the patience to reread this thread. Locked. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"



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