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Galm Fae wrote:

Agreed. I'll give it a shot to produce an alternate Peacekeeper Hierarchy.

1) Shaatei (Lowest Ranking Member)
2) Ashigaru (Foot soldiers of Feudal Japan)
3) Shogun (Ancient Warlords
4) Daimyo (Landowning Noble)
5) R+ìj+½ (Highest Ranking in their group)
6) Kugy+ì (Most powerful men in a court)
7) Ry+½jin (Dragon Lord)
8) Baku (A dream eating beast. Also means 'strike' in Napanii.)
9) Rasetsu
10) Raij+½ (A thunder beast that falls to Earth in a ball of Lighting)

I figure a majority of these words would have been reformatted by the Caldari as ancient Rataa loanwords and changed meaning slightly, just as 'loki' is synonymous with 'freedom' to the Minmatar.

Out of everything here, I'd like to keep Raiju, considering how our mercenaries enter a warzone. Where it should rank is anyone's guess.

In terms of not having a "greater good" I am going to have to challenge you on that one. Almost all of the Heth regime was centered on increasing productivity for the State at the cost of personal freedom. There are plenty of examples were the meritocratic ideal has been left on the wayside for the good of the Caldari as a whole.

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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11758	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:14:00 - [61] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine Gallentean cat reporting in for approval. 10 - Luminaire ***** (oh is that what we call women in Caille?) 9 - Lion Captain 8 - Lynx Commander 7 - Aegis Bobcat 6 - Shield Puma 5 - Kitten Officer 4 - Guardian Kitty 3 - Vanguard Tabby 2 - Federal Ocelot 1 - Federal Tom Each level of standing will be rewarded with 10 cans of Fancy Feast or your choosing. "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10806	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:18:00 - [62] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine Gallentean cat reporting in for approval. 10 - Luminaire ***** (oh is that what we call women in Caille?) 9 - Lion Captain 8 - Lynx Commander 7 - Aegis Bobcat 6 - Shield Puma 5 - Kitten Officer 4 - Guardian Kitty 3 - Vanguard Tabby 2 - Federal Ocelot 1 - Federal Tom Each level of standing will be rewarded with 10 cans of Fancy Feast or your choosing. This is... perfection. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15284	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:19:00 - [63] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine Gallentean cat reporting in for approval. 10 - Luminaire ***** (oh is that what we call women in Caille?) 9 - Lion Captain 8 - Lynx Commander 7 - Aegis Bobcat 6 - Shield Puma 5 - Kitten Officer 4 - Guardian Kitty 3 - Vanguard Tabby 2 - Federal Ocelot 1 - Federal Tom Each level of standing will be rewarded with 10 cans of Fancy Feast or your choosing. slow clap Out of curiosity, what do you think of the other proposed ranks? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11758	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:34:00 - [64] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I spent some time with a few fellow Gallenteans discussing what could be rankings in the Federation. Here's what we came up with after a while of chatting over it: 10 - Luminaire Marshal 9 - Federation Captain 8 - Federation Commander 7 - Aegis Lieutenant 6 - Shield Lieutenant 5 - Federal Officer 4 - Guardian Sergeant 3 - Vanguard Sergeant 2 - Federal Sentinel 1 - Federal Marine Gallentean cat reporting in for approval. 10 - Luminaire ***** (oh is that what we call women in Caille?) 9 - Lion Captain 8 - Lynx Commander 7 - Aegis Bobcat 6 - Shield Puma 5 - Kitten Officer 4 - Guardian Kitty 3 - Vanguard Tabby 2 - Federal Ocelot 1 - Federal Tom Each level of standing will be rewarded with 10 cans of Fancy Feast or your choosing. slow clap Out of curiosity, what do you think of the other proposed ranks? Good very solid. Do the EVE side ranks refer to a more defensive vibe to the titles? "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2413	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:37:00 - [65] - Quote Consider angelic hierarchy for the Amarr. Wiki link PSN: ogamega I'm not a chef, i'm just a man who likes to cook.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 276	Posted - 2014.07.10 23:35:00 - [66] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Alright, I've been at it again and here is my idea of how Republic rankings would go. If you can't guess it, it is heavily based off old viking titles. I) Svein Initiate II) Republic Thrall III) Drengr IV) Hersir V) Thegn VI) Sturaesman VII) Alfr VIII) Draugr IX) Einherjar X) Grand Jarl I don't really specialize in Matari at all, I just figured I'd give it a shot. I'd swap some of them, with Einherjiar taking 10th spot, Draugr being moved down a bit further and Grand Jarl being just below Einherjiar. edit, just read your description of draugr, Jarl should be below that. Sounds like a plan. With this in mind: 1) Svein Initiate 2) Republic Thrall 3) Draugr 4) Drengr 5) Hersir 6) Thegn 7) Sturaesman 8) Alfr 9) Grand Jarl 10) Sanmatar Einherjar *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
MINA Longstrike 1004	Posted - 2014.07.11 00:45:00 - [67] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I'd swap some of them, with Einherjiar taking 10th spot, Draugr being moved down a bit further and Grand Jarl being just below Einherjiar. edit, just read your description of draugr, Jarl should be below that. Sounds like a plan. With this in mind: 1) Svein Initiate 2) Republic Thrall 3) Draugr 4) Drengr 5) Hersir 6) Thegn 7) Sturaesman 8) Alfr 9) Grand Jarl 10) Sanmatar Einherjar The Sanmatar part is optional, I just like Horned Wolf's ideas. EDIT: On the other hand, maybe thrall should be below Svein and Alfr should be after Draugr. That way the more 'official' titles remain close to the top of the chain of command. I'm not sure, I'm a bit lost on this one. 1)Initiate 2)Thrall 3)Drengr* 4)Alfr* 5)Hersir* 6)Sturaesman 7)Thegn 8)Jarl 9)Draugr 10)Einherjiar You start as 'mortal' and as you move up the ranks you move closer and closer to being a being of almost mythic significance to the republic, until you're a being whose 'life essence' is enough to reanimate the body again, and through the power of mimetic mutation from tribal retellings these wouldn't be the cursed dead, but more like the champions of kings sent to rest with them and protect them even in death (stealing a little bit from some of the Egyptian mummification ideas)... Then after that the next rank is literally the shining souls of republic heros, unbound by death, and worthy of standing at the side of whatever gods the republic might have, even in the face of the apocalypse. I couldn't really find direct translations of what the asterisk marked ones meant so I kind of threw them back in, in a random order. I'd really like to stay away from military rankings for all of the various races (aside from maybe in the lower tiers) and as you move up in ranking the various races treat you more like you're some sort of being of myth. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 276	Posted - 2014.07.11 00:47:00 - [68] - Quote I like that. A lot! *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 276	Posted - 2014.07.11 01:19:00 - [69] - Quote Ah, reading back over this I just noticed your footnotes. Drengr are consider made members of Nordic society that have proven themselves battle-ready. Above that are the Hersir, who issue orders to fellow raiders much like a sergeant. Those two should be placed above thrall but below sturaesman. Alfr is one I would consider replace for another. It means Elf, which seems somewhat fitting for a soldier that can live hundreds of years... I just feel like there is a better alternative. Maybe Grendel or Beowulf. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
MINA Longstrike 1004	Posted - 2014.07.11 01:28:00 - [70] - Quote So we'll move alfr up to just below draugr, and shuffle the others down appropriately. so it would look like 1)Initiate 2)Thrall 3)Drengr 4)Hersir 5)Sturaesman 6)Thegn 7)Jarl 8)Alfr 9)Draugr 10)Einherjiar With the possibility of Alfr being swapped out for another more appropriate word. Making the first 7 ranks 'mortals' although of high importance once they get to tier 5-7, and then the last 3 being things that are almost explicitly supernatural. I think this is a relatively good format to follow for all of the various races, though I'm still of the opinion that we should try to stay away from traditional military ranks like 'sergeant' or 'captain' as those are relatively uninspired - though I do like most of what you've suggested for the caldari. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 277	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:12:00 - [71] - Quote Agreed. I'll give it a shot to produce an alternate Peacekeeper Hierarchy. 1) Shaatei (Lowest Ranking Member) 2) Ashigaru (Foot soldiers of Feudal Japan) 3) Shogun (Ancient Warlords 4) Daimyo (Landowning Noble) 5) R+ìj+½ (Highest Ranking in their group) 6) Kugy+ì (Most powerful men in a court) 7) Ry+½jin (Dragon Lord) 8) Baku (A dream eating beast. Also means 'strike' in Napanii.) 9) Oni (The ogre spirit of a dead shogun) 10) Raij+½ (A thunder beast that falls to Earth in a ball of Lighting) I figure a majority of these words would have been reformatted by the Caldari as ancient Rataa loanwords and changed meaning slightly, just as 'loki' is synonymous with 'freedom' to the Minmatar. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
Killar-12 The Exemplars Top Men. 2926	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:13:00 - [72] - Quote Could while the subject of FW is being discussed we talk about Rewards or ISK Costs? or is there another place where this is being discussed? 21-Day EVE Trial
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6462	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:15:00 - [73] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Could while the subject of FW is being discussed we talk about Rewards or ISK Costs? or is there another place where this is being discussed? They already talked about increase ISK payouts by a multiple of 2 or 3 see you space cowboy...
MINA Longstrike 1007	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:22:00 - [74] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Agreed. I'll give it a shot to produce an alternate Peacekeeper Hierarchy. 1) Shaatei (Lowest Ranking Member) 2) Ashigaru (Foot soldiers of Feudal Japan) 3) Shogun (Ancient Warlords 4) Daimyo (Landowning Noble) 5) R+ìj+½ (Highest Ranking in their group) 6) Kugy+ì (Most powerful men in a court) 7) Ry+½jin (Dragon Lord) 8) Baku (A dream eating beast. Also means 'strike' in Napanii.) 9) Rasetsu 10) Raij+½ (A thunder beast that falls to Earth in a ball of Lighting) I figure a majority of these words would have been reformatted by the Caldari as ancient Rataa loanwords and changed meaning slightly, just as 'loki' is synonymous with 'freedom' to the Minmatar. Out of everything here, I'd like to keep Raiju, considering how our mercenaries enter a warzone. Where it should rank is anyone's guess. In terms of not having a "greater good" I am going to have to challenge you on that one. Almost all of the Heth regime was centered on increasing productivity for the State at the cost of personal freedom. There are plenty of examples were the meritocratic ideal has been left on the wayside for the good of the Caldari as a whole. Oh no, I understand what you mean by greater good, I explained it poorly, I'd just like to state that it's about the greater good for the caldari. It's not about the greater good for the caldari + minmatar or Cal + Amarr. It's not really stuff that's done pro bono, it's done because our interests align. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 277	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:25:00 - [75] - Quote Ah, I see what you mean now. I'm not going to lie, this thread is starting to fry my brain a little bit. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 833	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:33:00 - [76] - Quote to all races: 1-5 %racename noob 6-9 %racename money looser 10 %racename nolifer Sorry for bad English =) >>> Legion rdy! <<<
MINA Longstrike 1007	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:38:00 - [77] - Quote 1) Shaatei (Lowest Ranking Member) 2) Ashigaru (Foot soldiers of Feudal Japan) 3) Kirjuun (caldari word equivalent of 'comrade') 4) Shogun (Ancient Warlords 5) Daimyo (Landowning Noble) 6) R+ìj+½ (Highest Ranking in their group) 7) Kugy+ì (Most powerful men in a court) 8) Baku (A dream eating beast. Also means 'strike' in Napanii.) 9) Raij+½ (A thunder beast that falls to Earth in a ball of Lighting) 10) Rasetsu Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Killar-12 The Exemplars Top Men. 2926	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:40:00 - [78] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Could while the subject of FW is being discussed we talk about Rewards or ISK Costs? or is there another place where this is being discussed? They already talked about increase ISK payouts by a multiple of 2 or 3 I'd say multiply it by three as well as adjust the prices in FW. kk, just wondering... 21-Day EVE Trial
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1677	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:46:00 - [79] - Quote In case anyone was unaware, EvE has FW ranks as well (though they're not displayed). Perhaps these can serve as some inspiration: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ranks
FEAST FOR crows Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 14	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:54:00 - [80] - Quote I would love a title that shows my dedication to the empress and my god. You Die In The Name Of The Empress *Horizons' Edge*

Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 743	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:59:00 - [81] - Quote Gallente Titles: 10.) twizzletit 9.) numbnut 8.) cobgobbler 7.) douchenozzle 6.) fartbreath 5.) cumdumpster 4.) assclown 3.) jizzmagician 2.) shitbrain 1.) cheesedick GLORY TO THE STATE
MINA Longstrike 1011	Posted - 2014.07.11 03:01:00 - [82] - Quote ^bemusing but I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have passed the censors like that. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 743	Posted - 2014.07.11 03:02:00 - [83] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: ^bemusing but I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have passed the censors like that. Caldari's EWAR capabilities know no bounds... GLORY TO THE STATE
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11782	Posted - 2014.07.11 03:32:00 - [84] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: ^bemusing but I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have passed the censors like that. Caldari's EWAR capabilities know no bounds... I am impressed with that power of Caldari EWAR to be sure...... hehehe silly Gallente.. "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8729	Posted - 2014.07.11 10:04:00 - [85] - Quote Would it then be at all possible to have your title show up when someone views your character sheet in game, and better yet on the kill report when you die so you know what rank your killer was? Also, and this is a stretch, what about having unique portraits for your title? You don't even need one for each title, just every few standings up. Dust is one of the most personal FPS games out there, but everyone is displayed with the same handful of portraits. Amarr are the good guys Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
MINA Longstrike 1012	Posted - 2014.07.11 10:08:00 - [86] - Quote I'd love title to be displayed on killfeed Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Beld Errmon 1769	Posted - 2014.07.11 12:22:00 - [87] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: When questioned about what the various empires would call their mercenaries months ago, I believe the community came up with the fact that in eve Minmatar naming schemes are done based off of norse mythology, Gallente after Greek, Caldari after animals/Japanese myth, and amarr after religious stuff / knightly orders. Basing it off the concept of 'immortals' in each stated thema, I'll toss these out. Level 10 Minmatar - Einherjiar Level 10 Gallente - Elysian or Hecatonchires Level 10 Caldari - Rasetsu (it's kind of migrated from indian culture, but they're ultra-violent deathfeeder type things, unbound by karmic cycle - we're looking at the Buddhist incarnation primarily) Level 10 Amarr - (I'm kind of stumped on this, I want to go with Empyrean, Archon, or Sefrim) The point I'd like to make is to separate them from military titles, Immortal mercenaries are creatures of practically mythic might - warriors without peer and we should fall somewhere outside of typical military foundations. We're called in when nothing else will do, when it would be suicide for anyone else to even try - and then we go and achieve the impossible. anything but hecatonchires, the play that used to use that name was a total.... swearing isn't allowed you get the point. Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
MINA Longstrike 1013	Posted - 2014.07.11 14:53:00 - [88] - Quote It's not based off the play, it's based off of the figure of myth. A hundred handed Titan of incredible might and ferocity that fought against other titans in the name of freedom against tyrrany. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Taskanoss Royal Dominion 0	Posted - 2014.07.11 15:23:00 - [89] - Quote A suggestion, that might be of use would be to have a rank symbol to match the title found in character information.
MINA Longstrike 1013	Posted - 2014.07.12 17:38:00 - [90] - Quote Taskanoss wrote: A suggestion, that might be of use would be to have a rank symbol to match the title found in character information. That might be alright. Any ideas for gallente titles? Stuff like ekdromos or hoplite? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.



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