1- Initiate or Disciple
2- Guardsman or Militae
3- Guardian
4- Paladin
5- Exalted Paladin
6- Legate
7- Templar
8- Templar Captain
9- Templar Imperator
10- Divine Captain of the Imperial Guard or Scutariorum Imperatrix (Means Bodyguard of the Empress)

I) Shaatei (Lowest ranking member. IE "Ensign Ricky.")
II) Nit+ìhei (Equal to a Private)
III) Goch+ì (Corporal)
IV) Guns+ì (Sergeant)
V) S+ìch+ì (Sergeant Major)
VI) Chuigun (Lieutenant)
VII) Taiikugun (Captain)
VIII) Sh+ìsa (Major)
IX) Taisa (Colonel)
X) Taish+ì (General)

10 - Luminaire Marshal
9 - Federation Captain
8 - Federation Commander
7 - Aegis Lieutenant
6 - Shield Lieutenant
5 - Federal Officer
4 - Guardian Sergeant
3 - Vanguard Sergeant
2 - Federal Sentinel
1 - Federal Marine

Minmatar
01 Warrior
02 Warrior Mystic
03 War Spirit
04 Nomad Wolf
05 Stormwalker
06 Voshud Spear
07 Tribal Shaman
08 Matari Shaman
09 Tribal War Chief
10 Valklear Sanmatar Warlord

So far from this thread here are the one's I see as the best here.

Hopefully this serves as a guideline to what each race is about.


Caldari:

I think you've got a pretty good list with the exception of the Caldari. My only real beef with it is that it's the outlier from the other three races in terns of language. All the factions actually have their own languages in addition to the common speech across the Empires but we tend to focus no he Caldari language (or our proximity of that)

Let me think on it a bit and I'll post up some other options.

I see the caldari as the imperialistic era of Japan if that helps :|

No way. The caldari are hyper-capitalists with a side of facism. Think Ron Paul's wet dream (Libertarianism for the non-americans). I think names based upon something from Mussolini era Italy or Franco era Spain would be more fitting.

You greatly misunderstand the caldari if that's all you think there is to them. You're so wrong it isn't even funny.

What more is there to understand Mina they are an extremely nationalistic corporatocracy with militaristic tendencies. Japan, prior to the post WWII reconstruction era was a feudal dictatorship with zero independent capitalism on a major scale, a fact dictated by the Japanese cast system, which at the time placed merchants right above the untouchable classes that worked with tanning hides and waste disposal. The caldari are ruled by a governing group of corporations. There were no corporations in premodern Japan. The closest you are going to get were the Dutch traders who were only allowed in a single port city (Nagasaki) and were an extremely small influence on the coutnry as a whole due to the Shogunate's policies.

Frano's Spain or Mussollini's Italy are much more closely related to the portrayal of the Caldari since they were 1) capitalisitc facist states where the goverment was essentially run by a leader who was in bed with the corporate powers. 2) They were highly militaristic emphasizing exactly the same kinds of martial ideas espoused by the Caldari.

Additionally have you even looked at the Caldari character models in EvE? The are for the most part European, with very few features of Asiatic peoples.

The issue doesn't seem to be that I don't understand Japan or the Caldari, its that you have no clue what you are talking about. Your dime store understanding of Japanese history really isn't enough to make a cross cultural comparison with Bugs Bunny let alone a fictions society with the same depth of background as the Caldari.

Consider your self "historianed." <--its like being "lawyered but way less applicable to daily life and really only something actual historians can pull off.

An idea I had was to show LP standings as a forum tag. If anyone is interested in helping me make a cool lore case, please reply to this thread like this:

"Standing" - "Honorary Title"

Gallente
10 General
9 Lord Marshall
...
...


Caldari
10 Chancellor


Minmatar
10 Warlord

Amarr
10 High Priest

etc.

Well I was cautioned by Arkena to be nice to the people in this thread but I'll throw that **** to the wind now.

Mobius is pretty spot on. Like I said before, there's more to look at than one tiny factor of the empires. You're going to have to know a little bit of history both real world history and New Eden Lore to properly have a grasp at what's going on.

Arkena, do I have permission to stop playing nice now?

What more is there to understand Mina they are an extremely nationalistic corporatocracy with militaristic tendencies. Japan, prior to the post WWII reconstruction era was a feudal dictatorship with zero independent capitalism on a major scale, a fact dictated by the Japanese cast system, which at the time placed merchants right above the untouchable classes that worked with tanning hides and waste disposal. The caldari are ruled by a governing group of corporations. There were no corporations in premodern Japan. The closest you are going to get were the Dutch traders who were only allowed in a single port city (Nagasaki) and were an extremely small influence on the coutnry as a whole due to the Shogunate's policies.

Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy are much more closely related to the portrayal of the Caldari since they were 1) capitalisitc facist states where the goverment was essentially run by a leader who was in bed with the corporate powers. 2) They were highly militaristic emphasizing exactly the same kinds of martial ideas espoused by the Caldari.

Additionally have you even looked at the Caldari character models in EvE? The are for the most part European, with very few features of Asiatic peoples.

The issue doesn't seem to be that I don't understand Japan or the Caldari, its that you have no clue what you are talking about. Your dime store understanding of Japanese history really isn't enough to make a cross cultural comparison with Bugs Bunny let alone a fictions society with the same depth of background as the Caldari.

Consider your self "historianed." <--its like being "lawyered but way less applicable to daily life and really only something actual historians can pull off.

I suspect I have more knowledge of the Japanese culture than you might.

I don't have more time to actually properly dismiss this right now, but I'll see about getting around to it.

Proposed Caldari Ranks by faction warfare level:
1) Camicia Nera
2) Capo Squadra
3) Aiutante
4) Sottocapomanipolo
5) Centurione
6) Seniore
7) Primo Senior
8) Console Comandante
9) Luogotenente Generale
10) Comandante Generale

These are based upon the ranks used by the "Black Shirts" who were the Facist Miliia of Franco era Spain. While they are simple ranks I feel like the italian terminology and clear connection to the terms use for ranks in Ancient Rome gives it a bit of interesting flare.

I witdraw my own submission because Jaysyn Larrisen's is so excellent. I love the non-Asian/Euro specific nature as well as how you integrated the corporate titles with agressive military sounding terms. Great work!

Really it seems pretty bland to me with the constant reusing of the same words but hey idk since I'm all about that Amarr :D

Ok...i've had a little time to kick some ideas around about an alternate Caldari title naming convention. Basically, I wanted to look for names that capture the mosaic of traits the Caldari have without overly relying on names you would have to google to figure out.

Again, might not be great but perhaps a good start point.

1) State Soldat
2) Vanguard Trooper
3) Dragonaur Trooper
4) Vanguard Sergeant
5) Dragonaur Sergeant
6) Vanguard Officer
7) Dragonaur Officer
8) Senior Military Operative
9) Senior Intelligence Operative
10) Executive Security Director

Couple notes:
1) tried to stay away from Japanese / Euro names too much. Didn't feel right to go one way or the other and a mixed list was sketchy.

2) Vanguards - homage to the EVE video (can't remember name) with the Caldari merc (call sign; Vanguard) that was betrayed by the capsuleer that dropped the OB on him. Basically your more basic ground operations guys for the Caldari.

3) Dragonaurs - direct lore tie in; bit of a mix of police state strong-arm guys, political / intelligence muscle, action arm for some of Tibus Heth's circle.

4) Ranks 8-10 were much more corporate oriented titles.

It's incongruous to the point of being jarring when you try to toss out Italian names for a race that has zero connection to anything Italian

It is bland.

And Mobius, maybe you're painfully unaware but quite a fair bit of the caldari naming scheme from eve is Japanese. In fact if you looked at the links provided earlier you can see the names of every NPC in the game, the entire npc caldari ship naming scheme is based off of Japanese words usually variations on feudal Japanese soldiers and their equipment. I don't care how you believe the corporations run or should run, you are wrong, everything suggested by Galm and Mina conforms to the naming conventions of eve. It's incongruous to the point of being jarring when you try to toss out Italian names for a race that has zero connection to anything Italian, in fact it just makes your condescending attitude look stupid and woefully uninformed when you cant do enough basic research to get the races naming conventions right.

Quit being a self loathing weaboo, You might not like the Japanese titles suggested or even the non-Japanese ones but they are appropriate and to the point accurate, they stick to the root languages used by the races in their npc names.

Furthermore I like the idea of staying away from non-standard military ranks, because we are immortal mercenaries not part of any existing military organization, so in addition to titles like "general" being painfully ****ing boring and underwhelming they ring particularly hollow due to all of our characters not actually existing within any faction military structure.

Gallente titles.

1) Trophimoi
2) Ekdromoi
3) Homoioi (covered in spartiate link it means 'peers')
4) Sarissophoroi
5) Hoplite
6) Spartiate
7) Somatophylakes I was tempted to replace this with Hetairoi, but that's a bit of a later period thing.
8) Erinyes
9) Gigas
10) Hekatonkheir

More than willing to take suggestions on these, replace some of the name with other things etc, but I like the progression, you start as someone that is essentially adopted into the federation/military, then after a short time you progress to an equal, and eventually an elite, then a warrior of legend and eventually a being of primordial might.

Gigas feels a little weak as a title, and I was tempted to use gigantes but it's noted in the article that they weren't necessary larger than other things, just infinitely more ferocious.

Edit: got a little feedback and decided to remove Triptolemus and keep erinyes as it fits with the 'primordial being' theme more.

3) Dragonaurs - direct lore tie in; bit of a mix of police state strong-arm guys, political / intelligence muscle, action arm for some of Tibus Heth's circle.

Aren't the Dragonaurs viewed as a terrorist group?

Aren't the Dragonaurs viewed as a terrorist group?

I prefer the term....


"A Misunderstood, Ultranationalist Society of Altruists and Puckish Rouges."

I prefer the term....


"A Misunderstood, Ultranationalist Society of Altruists and Puckish Rouges."

It is bland.

And Mobius, maybe you're painfully unaware but quite a fair bit of the caldari naming scheme from eve is Japanese. In fact if you looked at the links provided earlier you can see the names of every NPC in the game, the entire npc caldari ship naming scheme is based off of Japanese words usually variations on feudal Japanese soldiers and their equipment. I don't care how you believe the corporations run or should run, you are wrong, everything suggested by Galm and Mina conforms to the naming conventions of eve. It's incongruous to the point of being jarring when you try to toss out Italian names for a race that has zero connection to anything Italian, in fact it just makes your condescending attitude look stupid and woefully uninformed when you cant do enough basic research to get the races naming conventions right.

Quit being a self loathing weaboo, You might not like the Japanese titles suggested or even the non-Japanese ones but they are appropriate and to the point accurate, they stick to the root languages used by the races in their npc names.

Furthermore I like the idea of staying away from non-standard military ranks, because we are immortal mercenaries not part of any existing military organization, so in addition to titles like "general" being painfully ****ing boring and underwhelming they ring particularly hollow due to all of our characters not actually existing within any faction military structure.

Bear in mind dude that the Templis Drangonaurs are U-nat terrorists who are even hunted by the state.

I thought even the State presently considered them terrorists?