Seems to me that this topic is getting filled with at lot of personal agendas and non-constructive conversation, so let me try helping this along.

Side A: We want these names to feel awesome and important and have a connection to the lore of the eve universe, and even possibly add to this universe. We did a lot of research, and feel like names like this work best.

Side B: We want names that sound like ranks, or titles of responsibility (chief, treasurer, sergeant) because they quickly denote relative standing, and because they make me feel like I am a solider, or at least a person who has earned something from their rank.

Side A: We understand why you want to have your names, but feel them to be inappropriate. We have no responsibility assigned to our standings level. It only effects payout. Calling people by names suggested in your lists seems inappropriate to the lore/mechanics of the game. Other things with your lists are inconsistent with the various factions' cultures. They seem appropriate on a cursory glance based on the common perception of the races (super capitalist/communists, generic tribal people, space Americans, religious zealots), but the races are much more complex than that, and I would like to explore that lore, and get other people to explore it too. I think this is a great, non intrusive venue to explore that.

Side B: I don't like your suggestions as they have no meaning to the layman, nor to us. They seem over-researched and too complex at a cursory glance. We want something with more meaning in a practical sense. Our lists get the point across nicely, and we fee like having these names lets us casually refer to (and be referred to by) others. It much easier to feel like gaining standings levels is an achievement worthy of praise when you can understand it and tell other people about how exciting it is (Or boast about it with the other forum warriors).

Side C: It seems as though the community is split. Both sides have good points. It also seems that some hardcore rollplayers like the complex intricate lore as they feel connected to their race of choice, but do not necessarily enjoy being associated with some of the facets of the culture. Others like a race from it's simple ideals rather than their original racial origins. Ideally we need a system that encourages exploration and involvement in the lore of the universe, yet easily conveys rank and accomplishment to the average person, and is not so abstract or simple that it confuses/frustrates people. How about we compromise and think of solutions? If we work together we can make something that everyone can be happy and excited about, or at least not overly dislike.

Now that that is all out of the way and we can get back to constructive dialog, (I know that I'm asking asking for this on an internet forum), I propose this solution. How about we have the complex lore names juxtaposed with a easy system such as numbers (or Roman numerals, or noble titles)? i.e. Gallente Rank 8 Gyges This allows ease of understanding, but includes lore elements that tie into the culture and history of the factions. I would be happy to see what other ideas people can come up with as long as they are solution oriented, and not an internet **** measuring contest.

No, we are talking about you, because you refuse to discuss things in good nature, you're doing whatever you can to drag things off topic and spout ad hominem about people. As far as 'giving citation', it has been explained repeatedly and in great detail why those names were chosen, you choosing not to take the time to understand another position doesn't mean it has no merit and it certainly doesn't mean it should be explained again.

Conversation was good up until you and a few others jumped in here and then it went from "Here's my idea and why I think it has merit" and someone else going "Okay, let me iterate on that or come up with something else" to "DEFEND YOUR IDEA BECAUSE THIS IS THE WORST PIECE OF **** I'VE EVER HEARD FROM THE DUMBEST PERSON I'VE EVER SEEN".

One is good natured, the other seeks only to antagonize or ridicule.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum

If you want to pretend that you're a 'general' in your own corp, or that you were a 'seargeant' named 'kirk' before becoming an immortal mercenary that's all well and good, but it doesn't apply nor should it apply to factional titles because there is [b]no responsibility associated with them..

No Kirk, that was side b. please re-read what you quoted.

If it was pretty obvious I meant side B and was a typo why would you bother to post a correction.


*Looks at Evicer's Red Herring comment*

ohh it all makes since.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum


Now on to you ...if you want to pretend your a Witch hammer deity/Angel than call your toon that and back off Kirk for putting Seargent in his. You have no ground to stand on. If you want to RP you're descended from Seraphim have your corp give you a Title.

SO were listening please tell us why you think Angel names should be associated with The imperial Guard

Oh and btw you spelt it wrong .

Lovely continued ad hominem evicer. Please keep on attacking the characteristics of people rather than their arguments and wonder why no one cares what you think.