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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
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Posted - 2014.08.07 00:52:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:FYI, I never made the claim that I was kevall longstride to Galm, I don't know where he got that idea aside from the similarity of our character names.
*coughs and scratches neck*
Similar names. Honest mistake. I was a bit thrown off by a previous comment, sorry. I guess I'll stop trying to be a super sleuth now. (Note to self, never attempt the old "ace-in-the-hole parlor-scene" move on a web forum again.)
Anyway, look, I'm thankful that the Devs stepped in to keep the peace here. Things got out of hand quick and I am fairly certain all parties said something stupid at some point. That being said I think we can all agree to get over it and move on to actually contributing to this discussion.
People are all just so open to shooting down one person's ideas without suggesting a better alternative, which serves to purpose to this thread. Ultimately the choice of which titles are preferred will come down to the development team, and I have already made my case for the more complex titles that were thought up earlier in this thread.
This in mind, I'm going to begin to make a list of some easy to swallow titles. I'd sincerely hope that the men and women in charge will side with quality over just phoning this one in, but if that isn't the case then I'd love to at least develop a system that is true to the lore while not requiring an extraneous amount of divergent thinking.
Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
> --Keepin' the peace!--
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
738
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Posted - 2014.08.07 04:47:00 -
[242] - Quote
remove
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2014.08.07 04:49:00 -
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As for Hecatonchire I never claimed I made up the word. I knew exactly what i was doing Lore wise when I researched the name. I knew exactly with names like Hyperion,Thantos,Nyx, Erebus and other names were from greek mythology and that the Gallente used these names.
I knew back then https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=362399#post362399 what it meant and why I wanted to use it as a corp name. Being one of the Hecatonchire would mean you would be one of the 50 heads and 100 arms and together we could form something that could bring down the TITANS IE The skyfire battery shooting into space at ships. "Throwing stones as big as mountains"
If the name Hecatonchire got used for level 10 Gallente FW then tell me how hard it would it be for me to drop my own toons from the corp ? Change it from Amarr militia to Gallente EVE side ? A couple mouse clicks and maybe Diplomacy 5 .Armaeus exist solely to manufacture he isnt for pvp. If and when manufacturing for DUST/Legion becomes a reality he'll simply manufacture Gallente suits and vehicles by the thousands instead of Amarr.
I always intended from the beginning for this corps name to be synonymous with Gallente I just got side tracked with camaraderie and my love of the Black Templars (Amarr Heavies in Black used to look so cool) Hence why Im speaking to you from this Gallente toon now. Yes I in fact gave this alot of thought. Ask yourself or anyone around you if they think that the operator of Evicer couldn't make another successful toon in Gallente FW. How is having tanks/ADS in the LP store as opposed to not ,a bad thing ?
The name and its intentions Lore wise were always supposed to be this from the first time it crossed my mind .... I merely got side tracked. As to the spelling it is Hecatonchire pluralized as in more than one. Why I chose this spelling as opposed to the other.
As to the future of the Hectonchires it would also not be hard for a closed beta vet to help new players buy skill books and give advice. If CCP were to name level 10 Gallente Hecatonchire they would do the name and this corp a great honor by immortalizing it since it was founded over a year ago.
SO again The name would just come full circle back to its intentions and this player would merely look at it as a speed bump. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3823
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Posted - 2014.08.07 05:00:00 -
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Could yall stop with the pointless argument
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7054
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Posted - 2014.08.07 05:01:00 -
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Hey CCP Rattati, are you going to increase the amount of LP we already have by x3 as well?
That would really mean a lot to the Role Players of course, only the ones who have stored LP up so I guess that's not too good of an idea...
see you space cowboy...
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3823
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Posted - 2014.08.07 05:03:00 -
[246] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:Hey CCP Rattati, are you going to increase the amount of LP we already have by x3 as well?
That would really mean a lot to the Role Players of course, only the ones who have stored LP up so I guess that's not too good of an idea...
No you shall suffer with me
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7056
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Posted - 2014.08.07 05:13:00 -
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I will only suffer with you because I choose to...because,
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BEHOLD THE GALLENTE PLASMA SHORTSWORD OF FREEDOM!
see you space cowboy...
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virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
722
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Posted - 2014.08.07 05:15:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I will only suffer with you because I choose to...because, Freedom! .X;
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THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3824
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Posted - 2014.08.07 05:23:00 -
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Wow, I'm pretty sure you copied and pasted that but bravo none the less.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7059
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Posted - 2014.08.07 05:25:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Wow, I'm pretty sure you copied and pasted that but bravo none the less.
CLOSE.
It was supposed to be a copy and pasted Eagle but it didn't turn out right, then I wondered if centering it would make it right but it didn't BUT THE RESULT WAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT I WANTED!
see you space cowboy...
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3824
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Posted - 2014.08.07 06:07:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Wow, I'm pretty sure you copied and pasted that but bravo none the less. CLOSE. It was supposed to be a copy and pasted Eagle but it didn't turn out right, then I wondered if centering it would make it right but it didn't BUT THE RESULT WAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT I WANTED!
Wait so that's an eagle?
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7060
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Posted - 2014.08.07 06:14:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Wow, I'm pretty sure you copied and pasted that but bravo none the less. CLOSE. It was supposed to be a copy and pasted Eagle but it didn't turn out right, then I wondered if centering it would make it right but it didn't BUT THE RESULT WAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT I WANTED! Wait so that's an eagle?
Apparently it's a Transformer .
see you space cowboy...
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
738
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:02:00 -
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Id also at this point like to add that if you ever Squad-ed with Evicer and Cubbs (CHICAGOCUBSFOREVER) and heard him say over squad comms for example " HECA got a nano ? " or 'HECA get in " "or HECA lets go to Alpha" "Me and HECA got bravo" and didnt know what he was talking about. Thats because HECATONCHIRES BRIAREUS was to long to say so we just went with HECA for comms and he still called me that out of habit. If you didnt know that.That means I predated you.
HightimesSW and Death from Afar were buddies and I started squading with them. We fought hard and then Cubbs came and Bleu Eka, Quackers (sir knight) but squads were 4 at the time and we grind-ed and grind-ed and Cubbs brought over his guy's from Socom, then the merge with Like a Boss.... and the rest is, as we say history.
I was never interested in PC in its regional Lag or waking up at 2 am to fight a Japanese corp when I had to go to work the next day. Cubbs just wanted to play the shooter. Hes always said that. I like the lore and so I created this corp. I switched back to my psn ID as my main and soloed.To this day I admire Hightimes SW ,Death from Afar , And CHICAGOCUBSFOREVER for what they accomplished and still remain friends with Cubbs today.
So in conclusion its not a question of who came first the chicken or the egg or Riding coattails( I know what Naruto is but admittedly never watched an episode) Regarding your belligerent rant .It has never BEEN a question of ME trying to steal YOUR thunder....... SO yes it is a great name yet you try to say by posting drop suit names in some thread and this thread that you reaearched it and that in an epiphany anfd your immense knowledge of the lore you and whomever came up with it and you should get some credit for that. Well Im sorry. IT was already here,as we've seen in the threads I have provided written on my alts.
If CCP does go with Hectonchire and you think that you may in the future try some dubious underhanded sabotagery ( OH NO  ) once the corp has changed over to Gallente FW, and link this thread to try and point out that I was In Amarr FW on this character you may do so at your leisure.You may point out That I was a closed beta vet a squad mate comrade basically a founding member in this game, of one of the most successful PC corp in the history of this game TeamPlayers, again you may.
You may also bite down on the curb, kick rocks , and get on my level. Because in Life I keep the philosophy of Kat Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
42
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:33:00 -
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Jesus Christ Evicer. No one cares, It's done, let it go. |
Kat Terezi
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.08.08 08:29:00 -
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Evicer wrote: Id also at this point like to add that if you ever Squad-ed with Evicer and Cubbs (CHICAGOCUBSFOREVER) and heard him say over squad comms for example " HECA got a nano ? " or 'HECA get in " "or HECA lets go to Alpha" "Me and HECA got bravo" and didnt know what he was talking about. Thats because HECATONCHIRES BRIAREUS was to long to say so we just went with HECA for comms and he still called me that out of habit. If you didnt know that.That means I predated you. HightimesSW and Death from Afar were buddies and I started squading with them. We fought hard and then Cubbs came and Bleu Eka, Quackers (sir knight) but squads were 4 at the time and we grind-ed and grind-ed and Cubbs brought over his guy's from Socom, then the merge with Like a Boss.... and the rest is, as we say history. I was never interested in PC in its regional Lag or waking up at 2 am to fight a Japanese corp when I had to go to work the next day. Cubbs just wanted to play the shooter. Hes always said that. I like the lore and so I created this corp. I switched back to my psn ID as my main and soloed.To this day I admire Hightimes SW ,Death from Afar , And CHICAGOCUBSFOREVER for what they accomplished and still remain friends with Cubbs today. So in conclusion its not a question of who came first the chicken or the egg or Riding coattails( I know what Naruto is but admittedly never watched an episode) Regarding your belligerent rant .It has never BEEN a question of ME trying to steal YOUR thunder....... SO yes it is a great name yet you try to say by posting drop suit names in some thread and this thread that you reaearched it and that in an epiphany anfd your immense knowledge of the lore you and whomever came up with it and you should get some credit for that. Well Im sorry. IT was already here,as we've seen in the threads I have provided written on my alts. If CCP does go with Hectonchire and you think that you may in the future try some dubious underhanded sabotagery ( OH NO ) once the corp has changed over to Gallente FW, and link this thread to try and point out that I was In Amarr FW on this character you may do so at your leisure.You may point out That I was a closed beta vet a squad mate comrade basically a founding member in this game, of one of the most successful PC corp in the history of this game TeamPlayers, again you may. You may also bite down on the curb, kick rocks , and get on my level. Because in Life I keep the philosophy of Kat Williams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
738
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:46:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:Jesus Christ Evicer. No one cares, It's done, let it go.
So i come home last night an this guy is in a channel called Amarr OOC and he just starts up how Im a fking whinner and and fking idiot and " evicer wants us to have stupid American military names like captain" So I sit there listening to this nerd rage just shaking my head.Not saying a word as this guy tries to goad me continuos insults.I told him to take it to the forums. SO here we go.Time to apparently educate and shut down the rampant Neckbeardery.
1st off American military ranks were adopted from the British, and Europe.
2)The British Empire went on to conquer most of the known world (some of us) live in. Hence why English is spoken in most of the world.
3) Around the end of the 16th century, companies were grouped into regiments. The officers commissioned to lead these regiments were in fact called colonels (column officers). They were first appointed in Spain by King Ferdinand II of Aragon where they were also known as coronellos (crown officers) since they were appointed by the Crown. Thus the English pronunciation of the word colonel.
4) Lieutenant was derived from the French language; the lieu meaning GÇ£placeGÇ¥ as in a position; and tenant meaning GÇ£holdingGÇ¥ as in GÇ£holding a positionGÇ¥; thus a GÇ£lieutenantGÇ¥ is somebody who holds a position in the absence of his superior. When he was not assisting the captain,
5) Captain was derived from the Late Latin word capitainus (meaning "head man" or chief).
Last Time I checked the name for The Gallente Federation's Infantry militia was called The "Federal Marines" not the Pantheon.
Amarr, The Imperial Guard not the" beings of light army "
Caldari, State Peacekeepers not Shangrala the buddist shrine of wonderment and Karmic alignment 
Minmatar, Republic Command not clickity clack clack
I guess the names CCP came up with are dumb to you as well.
The 2 Alliances that control The whole entirety of nullsec space, their names. : Goons , And Northern Alliance. Im thinking they dont care if you think their names are generic.
The point is just because you can draw some imaginary line from The Jen Mei of the Gallente Federation being Oriental and of Japanese decent doesnt mean that pâôpâ¢pâ½pâÇpâ+pâópâ¦pé¦pé+pâ+Bihorud-ümonsut-ü or Daigozimon Translated Beholder a Japanese/Greek mythological creature that's a floating head with eye tentacles and turns people to stone who look at it should be used.
As far as the argument that these names are for US and Not THEM. If anyone has ever heard me speak on the subject I think that a High DUST sp toon/player should be able to stand eye to eye with an EVE toon as far as wealth accumulation and a corp of 200 players Dust side should be able rival a corp of 200 EVE players on equal terms. As equals not some subservient lot. SO I dont know where you get all that with your rants.
In conclusion. I love how this has turned into some "lets draw these names from these dead languages" and anything more current is dumb argument. There are probably 10 people in the whole world that can read Egyptian hieroglyphs from a culture of 6000 years ago and the only reason why we can read them is from the Roseta stone. I dont see the Archeologist that can yammering as hard as you down at the local elementary school that the kids should be learning it . Possibly, because they (unlike you) posses a monicrim of common sense.We know that Neolithic Cultures(6k years BC) existed but still can read there script.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undeciphered_writing_systems IF realism is SO important to you lets make a rl time line. Its 2014 man has not discovered a wormhole.Does not posses the ability of FTL propulsion through space. Has not colonized another planet nor can terraform it. So 2000 ? 5000 years from now the EVE gate is discovered and then add the time since its collapse (as per lore) 20,000 years, so were looking at about 22 to 25,000 years from now. YET YOU INSIST, in some rather comical fit of nerd rage that the names you have created for this LP ranking system should have some relevance to dead languages currently not in use.
You asked for opinions I gave them, and got ridiculously belligerent insults and behavior in some immature fit of nerdic buttrage ,when I gave them and everyone else in this thread.
I was already done with this thread yesterday with my points made yet you keep on blathering to your alts in Amarr OOC
You have been weighed ,measured, and found wanting......of common sense.
Back away from the bathsalts you've had too much.
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:50:00 -
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That's some great stuff Evicer, and now back to Nocturnal Soul with his investigation.
Wait.... Quote:Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro
WTF WHY!? Does CCP hate Gallente that much you nerf a weapon not even in the game yet :(
see you space cowboy...
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:58:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:That's some great stuff Evicer, and now back to Nocturnal Soul with his investigation. Wait.... Quote:Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro WTF WHY!? Does CCP hate Gallente that much you nerf a weapon not even in the game yet :(
Oh man they got rid of the Gauss rifle? boo
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7097
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:31:00 -
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Evicer wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:That's some great stuff Evicer, and now back to Nocturnal Soul with his investigation. Wait.... Quote:Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro WTF WHY!? Does CCP hate Gallente that much you nerf a weapon not even in the game yet :( Edit:It was a good laugh but did you really think they'd Keep your Gallente short sword of freedom up there ?
Is ASCII art against the rules ?
see you space cowboy...
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
739
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:40:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Evicer wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:That's some great stuff Evicer, and now back to Nocturnal Soul with his investigation. Wait.... Quote:Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro WTF WHY!? Does CCP hate Gallente that much you nerf a weapon not even in the game yet :( Edit:It was a good laugh but did you really think they'd Keep your Gallente short sword of freedom up there ? Is ASCII art against the rules ?
IDK.I guess it depends on their interpretation of your art.
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3846
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Posted - 2014.08.09 07:10:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Evicer wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:That's some great stuff Evicer, and now back to Nocturnal Soul with his investigation. Wait.... Quote:Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro WTF WHY!? Does CCP hate Gallente that much you nerf a weapon not even in the game yet :( Edit:It was a good laugh but did you really think they'd Keep your Gallente short sword of freedom up there ? Is ASCII art against the rules ?
Awww even an Amarrian would weep to the misfortune of a masterpiece o7
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
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Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.08.09 21:51:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Proposed Caldari Ranks by faction warfare level:
1) Camicia Nera
2) Capo Squadra
3) Aiutante
4) Sottocapomanipolo
5) Centurione
6) Seniore
7) Primo Senior
8) Console Comandante
9) Luogotenente Generale
10) Comandante Generale
These are based upon the ranks used by the "Black Shirts" who were the Facist MiliiaMussolini in Italy. While they are simple ranks I feel like the italian terminology and clear connection to the terms use for ranks in Ancient Rome gives it a bit of interesting flare.
I witdraw my own submission because Jaysyn Larrisen's is so excellent. I love the non-Asian/Euro specific nature as well as how you integrated the corporate titles with agressive military sounding terms. Great work!
Fixed.
So, just to point out a few things:
Number 4 is Sotto Capo Manipolo.
Aiutante is like a low grade in Italy, for sure, much lower than Capo Squadra...
That said, there's a really bad thing in this rank, anyway. The first is "Camicia Nera", "Black Shirt", translated. It would certainly create huge problems to CCP here in Italy, considering that it is considered law infingement, called apology of fascism. It would be better a "Soldato Semplice" which the very first grade in the military hierarcy.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:56:00 -
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People just don't know how to read anymore *rolls eyes intensely*
see you space cowboy...
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
65
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Posted - 2014.08.10 01:40:00 -
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Caldari ~ Praetorian if it has to be just one
If not.
1~Citizen
2~Diplomat
3~Emissary
4~Allocator
5~Inspector
6~Apothecary
7~State Guard
8~State Treasurer
9~House Praetorian
10~Leviathan relay officer
(9 would be my 10, 10 was just to shine you on  )
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2014.08.10 02:09:00 -
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Hoping to see this - plus missing items in the LP store - in Delta!
Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel.
CCP's Problem
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
739
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Posted - 2014.08.10 03:33:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Loving this Amarr 01 Knight 02 Holy Knight 03 Paladin 04 Exalted Paladin (stolen from True Adamance) 05 Holy Vanguard 06 Zealous Vanguard 07 Anointed Sword 08 Anointed Cleric 09 Imperial Crusader 10 High Imperial Reclaimer Minmatar01 Warrior 02 Warrior Mystic 03 War Spirit 04 Nomad Wolf 05 Stormwalker 06 Voshud Spear 07 Tribal Shaman 08 Matari Shaman 09 Tribal War Chief 10 Valklear Sanmatar Warlord EDIT: Caldari and Gallente standings Caldari01 State Ensign 02 Peacekeeper 03 Corporal 04 Sergeant 05 Lieutenant 06 Colonel 07 War Director 08 State war Director 10 Taisho Meritarch Executor Gallente01 Militiaman 02 Milita trooper 03 Guardian 04 Operative 05 Elite Operative 06 Special Forces 07 Legionnaire 08 Legionnaire Prime 09 Federal Sentinel 10 Aegis Federal Marshal
I hate to say it, but this is way more like it.
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
27
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:50:00 -
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Seems to me that this topic is getting filled with at lot of personal agendas and non-constructive conversation, so let me try helping this along.
Side A: We want these names to feel awesome and important and have a connection to the lore of the eve universe, and even possibly add to this universe. We did a lot of research, and feel like names like this work best.
Side B: We want names that sound like ranks, or titles of responsibility (chief, treasurer, sergeant) because they quickly denote relative standing, and because they make me feel like I am a solider, or at least a person who has earned something from their rank.
Side A: We understand why you want to have your names, but feel them to be inappropriate. We have no responsibility assigned to our standings level. It only effects payout. Calling people by names suggested in your lists seems inappropriate to the lore/mechanics of the game. Other things with your lists are inconsistent with the various factions' cultures. They seem appropriate on a cursory glance based on the common perception of the races (super capitalist/communists, generic tribal people, space Americans, religious zealots), but the races are much more complex than that, and I would like to explore that lore, and get other people to explore it too. I think this is a great, non intrusive venue to explore that.
Side B: I don't like your suggestions as they have no meaning to the layman, nor to us. They seem over-researched and too complex at a cursory glance. We want something with more meaning in a practical sense. Our lists get the point across nicely, and we fee like having these names lets us casually refer to (and be referred to by) others. It much easier to feel like gaining standings levels is an achievement worthy of praise when you can understand it and tell other people about how exciting it is (Or boast about it with the other forum warriors).
Side C: It seems as though the community is split. Both sides have good points. It also seems that some hardcore rollplayers like the complex intricate lore as they feel connected to their race of choice, but do not necessarily enjoy being associated with some of the facets of the culture. Others like a race from it's simple ideals rather than their original racial origins. Ideally we need a system that encourages exploration and involvement in the lore of the universe, yet easily conveys rank and accomplishment to the average person, and is not so abstract or simple that it confuses/frustrates people. How about we compromise and think of solutions? If we work together we can make something that everyone can be happy and excited about, or at least not overly dislike.
Now that that is all out of the way and we can get back to constructive dialog, (I know that I'm asking asking for this on an internet forum), I propose this solution. How about we have the complex lore names juxtaposed with a easy system such as numbers (or Roman numerals, or noble titles)? i.e. Gallente Rank 8 Gyges This allows ease of understanding, but includes lore elements that tie into the culture and history of the factions. I would be happy to see what other ideas people can come up with as long as they are solution oriented, and not an internet **** measuring contest.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3878
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:03:00 -
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I like True's and Sgt Kirk's ranks for the Amarr and Gallente, oh and the Minmatar ranks the Caldari on the other hand is fantasy for my liking.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
741
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Posted - 2014.08.13 05:01:00 -
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The dev asked us for MILITIA FW ranks not what the ranks would be in say The Ministry of Internal Order or what they would be in say Wirkomi's or Kalikiota private security forces.Hes not asking us for names in npc militaries or say what the rank system would Be in the Holfast Syndicate .Which ( jokeingly ) could be "Top Slave Master" A brutor is not going to want a Sebestor name to be rank 10 and vice versa the names must be inclusive of all the bloodlines and there would be arguments there like the ones were having here.
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/12/strengthening-the-link-factional-warfare-in-uprising-1.7/
Minmatar -> Republic Command: Republic Command is something of an oddity in a new order where the Minmatar tribes wield considerable power. In large part the Minmatar military has become fragmented among the tribes but a rump central command remains. The Republic Command has managed to retain control over those units that reported directly to its military council, and the elite nature of many of these forces has allowed the generals of the Command to retain significant influence.
So if we use this as our example A Brutor would not join Minmitar FW if the top rank was a Sebsestor name for rank 10. Whether the names coinside with the lore is not the issue nor what he asked given all the bloodlines of new eden would a True Amarr want to join the 24th Imperial Crusade if the top rank was a Ni kunni name. No he would not so it must also coincide with all the bloodline to be inclusive of all of them to get all of them to join for the greater good.
I am not saying that these names are not good for some rank in something and that they are not consistent with lore.We also need to look at cultures.Those cultures and there subdivisions. It would be as if the U>S and Chinese army wanted to join together to fight an alien invader and the chinese wanted the name General to be the rank of Private and a Chinese name to be the top rank in the chain. That wouldnt do .SO they'd have to come up with a solution they both liked.We also have to consider that ranks in militaries really have nothing at all to do with deities or monsters.It has to do with 1 guy leads 10 guys. 2 guy leads 100, and all the 1's answer to him. 2 guys answer to 3 guy, who leads 1000 guys.Thats called the decimal ranking system. Through out the ages we just came up with names for them.
Thus why they would go with a rank system , and also to reiterate what the DEV asked us to come up with .......Ranks for Faction warfare militia. Not Npc corps. Like the Sanmatar Kelkoons and would they be the same names as the ones for the Company of Marcher Lords.
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12832
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Posted - 2014.08.13 05:03:00 -
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Evicer wrote:The dev asked us for MILITIA FW ranks not what the ranks would be in say The Ministry of Internal Order or what they would be in say Wirkomi's or Kalikiota private security forces.Hes not asking us for names in npc militaries or say what the rank system would Be in the Holfast Syndicate .Which ( jokeingly ) could be "Top Slave Master" A brutor is not going to want a Sebestor name to be rank 10 and vice versa the names must be inclusive of all the bloodlines and there would be arguments there like the ones were having here. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/12/strengthening-the-link-factional-warfare-in-uprising-1.7/Minmatar -> Republic Command: Republic Command is something of an oddity in a new order where the Minmatar tribes wield considerable power. In large part the Minmatar military has become fragmented among the tribes but a rump central command remains. The Republic Command has managed to retain control over those units that reported directly to its military council, and the elite nature of many of these forces has allowed the generals of the Command to retain significant influence. So if we use this as our example A Brutor would not join Minmitar FW if the top rank was a Sebsestor name for rank 10. Whether the names coinside with the lore is not the issue nor what he asked given all the bloodlines of new eden would a True Amarr want to join the 24th Imperial Crusade if the top rank was a Ni kunni name. No he would not so it must also coincide with all the bloodline to be inclusive of all of them to get all of them to join for the greater good. I am not saying that these names are not good for some rank in something and that they are not consistent with lore.We also need to look at cultures.Those cultures and there subdivisions. It would be as if the U>S and Chinese army wanted to join together to fight an alien invader and the chinese wanted the name General to be the rank of Private and a Chinese name to be the top rank in the chain. That wouldnt do .SO they'd have to come up with a solution they both liked.We also have to consider that ranks in militaries really have nothing at all to do with deities or monsters.It has to do with 1 guy leads 10 guys. 2 guy leads 100, and all the 1's answer to him. 2 guys answer to 3 guy, who leads 1000 guys.Thats called the decimal ranking system. Through out the ages we just came up with names for them. Thus why they would go with a rank system , and also to reiterate what the DEV asked us to come up with .......Ranks for Faction warfare militia. Not Npc corps. Like the Sanmatar Kelkoons and would they be the same names as the ones for the Company of Marcher Lords.
For Gods sake just drop it dude..... we get it already..... with the upmost respect and our recent excursion to the EVE gate in mind.....just let it go......
Wax on
Wax off
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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