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Mobius Kaethis wrote:

MINA Longstrike wrote:

Mobius Kaethis wrote:

Nocturnal Soul wrote:

I see the caldari as the imperialistic era of Japan if that helps :|

No way. The caldari are hyper-capitalists with a side of facism. Think Ron Paul's wet dream (Libertarianism for the non-americans). I think names based upon something from Mussolini era Italy or Franco era Spain would be more fitting.

You greatly misunderstand the caldari if that's all you think there is to them. You're so wrong it isn't even funny.

What more is there to understand Mina they are an extremely nationalistic corporatocracy with militaristic tendencies. Japan, prior to the post WWII reconstruction era was a feudal dictatorship with zero independent capitalism on a major scale, a fact dictated by the Japanese cast system, which at the time placed merchants right above the untouchable classes that worked with tanning hides and waste disposal. The caldari are ruled by a governing group of corporations. There were no corporations in premodern Japan. The closest you are going to get were the Dutch traders who were only allowed in a single port city (Nagasaki) and were an extremely small influence on the coutnry as a whole due to the Shogunate's policies.

Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy are much more closely related to the portrayal of the Caldari since they were 1) capitalisitc facist states where the goverment was essentially run by a leader who was in bed with the corporate powers. 2) They were highly militaristic emphasizing exactly the same kinds of martial ideas espoused by the Caldari.

Additionally have you even looked at the Caldari character models in EvE? The are for the most part European, with very few features of Asiatic peoples.

The issue doesn't seem to be that I don't understand Japan or the Caldari, its that you have no clue what you are talking about. Your dime store understanding of Japanese history really isn't enough to make a cross cultural comparison with Bugs Bunny let alone a fictions society with the same depth of background as the Caldari.

Consider your self "historianed." <--its like being "lawyered but way less applicable to daily life and really only something actual historians can pull off.


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MINA Longstrike 992	Posted - 2014.07.09 23:45:00 - [1] - Quote When questioned about what the various empires would call their mercenaries months ago, I believe the community came up with the fact that in eve Minmatar naming schemes are done based off of norse mythology, Gallente after Greek, Caldari after animals/Japanese myth, and amarr after religious stuff / knightly orders. Basing it off the concept of 'immortals' in each stated thema, I'll toss these out. Level 10 Minmatar - Einherjiar Level 10 Gallente - Elysian or Hecatonchires Level 10 Caldari - Rasetsu (it's kind of migrated from indian culture, but they're ultra-violent deathfeeder type things, unbound by karmic cycle - we're looking at the Buddhist incarnation primarily) Level 10 Amarr - (I'm kind of stumped on this, I want to go with Empyrean, Archon, or Sefrim) The point I'd like to make is to separate them from military titles, Immortal mercenaries are creatures of practically mythic might - warriors without peer and we should fall somewhere outside of typical military foundations. We're called in when nothing else will do, when it would be suicide for anyone else to even try - and then we go and achieve the impossible. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 992	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:07:00 - [2] - Quote True Adamance wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: When questioned about what the various empires would call their mercenaries months ago, I believe the community came up with the fact that in eve Minmatar naming schemes are done based off of norse mythology, Gallente after Greek, Caldari after animals/Japanese myth, and amarr after religious stuff / knightly orders. Basing it off the concept of 'immortals' in each stated thema, I'll toss these out. Level 10 Minmatar - Einherjiar Level 10 Gallente - Elysian or Hecatonchires Level 10 Caldari - Rasetsu (it's kind of migrated from indian culture, but they're ultra-violent deathfeeder type things, unbound by karmic cycle - we're looking at the Buddhist incarnation primarily) Level 10 Amarr - (I'm kind of stumped on this, I want to go with Empyrean, Archon, or Sefrim) The point I'd like to make is to separate them from military titles, Immortal mercenaries are creatures of practically mythic might - warriors without peer and we should fall somewhere outside of typical military foundations. We're called in when nothing else will do, when it would be suicide for anyone else to even try - and then we go and achieve the impossible. You well know MINA that to call oneself a Sef would be tantamount to blasphemy. that's why I was a little stumped. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1001	Posted - 2014.07.10 21:08:00 - [3] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Alright, I've been at it again and here is my idea of how Republic rankings would go. If you can't guess it, it is heavily based off old viking titles. I) Svein Initiate II) Republic Thrall III) Drengr IV) Hersir V) Thegn VI) Sturaesman VII) Alfr VIII) Draugr IX) Einherjar X) Grand Jarl I don't really specialize in Matari at all, I just figured I'd give it a shot. I'd swap some of them, with Einherjiar taking 10th spot, Draugr being moved down a bit further and Grand Jarl being just below Einherjiar. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1004	Posted - 2014.07.11 00:45:00 - [4] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I'd swap some of them, with Einherjiar taking 10th spot, Draugr being moved down a bit further and Grand Jarl being just below Einherjiar. edit, just read your description of draugr, Jarl should be below that. Sounds like a plan. With this in mind: 1) Svein Initiate 2) Republic Thrall 3) Draugr 4) Drengr 5) Hersir 6) Thegn 7) Sturaesman 8) Alfr 9) Grand Jarl 10) Sanmatar Einherjar The Sanmatar part is optional, I just like Horned Wolf's ideas. EDIT: On the other hand, maybe thrall should be below Svein and Alfr should be after Draugr. That way the more 'official' titles remain close to the top of the chain of command. I'm not sure, I'm a bit lost on this one. 1)Initiate 2)Thrall 3)Drengr* 4)Alfr* 5)Hersir* 6)Sturaesman 7)Thegn 8)Jarl 9)Draugr 10)Einherjiar You start as 'mortal' and as you move up the ranks you move closer and closer to being a being of almost mythic significance to the republic, until you're a being whose 'life essence' is enough to reanimate the body again, and through the power of mimetic mutation from tribal retellings these wouldn't be the cursed dead, but more like the champions of kings sent to rest with them and protect them even in death (stealing a little bit from some of the Egyptian mummification ideas)... Then after that the next rank is literally the shining souls of republic heros, unbound by death, and worthy of standing at the side of whatever gods the republic might have, even in the face of the apocalypse. I couldn't really find direct translations of what the asterisk marked ones meant so I kind of threw them back in, in a random order. I'd really like to stay away from military rankings for all of the various races (aside from maybe in the lower tiers) and as you move up in ranking the various races treat you more like you're some sort of being of myth. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1004	Posted - 2014.07.11 01:28:00 - [5] - Quote So we'll move alfr up to just below draugr, and shuffle the others down appropriately. so it would look like 1)Initiate 2)Thrall 3)Drengr 4)Hersir 5)Sturaesman 6)Thegn 7)Jarl 8)Alfr 9)Draugr 10)Einherjiar With the possibility of Alfr being swapped out for another more appropriate word. Making the first 7 ranks 'mortals' although of high importance once they get to tier 5-7, and then the last 3 being things that are almost explicitly supernatural. I think this is a relatively good format to follow for all of the various races, though I'm still of the opinion that we should try to stay away from traditional military ranks like 'sergeant' or 'captain' as those are relatively uninspired - though I do like most of what you've suggested for the caldari. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1007	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:22:00 - [6] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Agreed. I'll give it a shot to produce an alternate Peacekeeper Hierarchy. 1) Shaatei (Lowest Ranking Member) 2) Ashigaru (Foot soldiers of Feudal Japan) 3) Shogun (Ancient Warlords 4) Daimyo (Landowning Noble) 5) R+ìj+½ (Highest Ranking in their group) 6) Kugy+ì (Most powerful men in a court) 7) Ry+½jin (Dragon Lord) 8) Baku (A dream eating beast. Also means 'strike' in Napanii.) 9) Rasetsu 10) Raij+½ (A thunder beast that falls to Earth in a ball of Lighting) I figure a majority of these words would have been reformatted by the Caldari as ancient Rataa loanwords and changed meaning slightly, just as 'loki' is synonymous with 'freedom' to the Minmatar. Out of everything here, I'd like to keep Raiju, considering how our mercenaries enter a warzone. Where it should rank is anyone's guess. In terms of not having a "greater good" I am going to have to challenge you on that one. Almost all of the Heth regime was centered on increasing productivity for the State at the cost of personal freedom. There are plenty of examples were the meritocratic ideal has been left on the wayside for the good of the Caldari as a whole. Oh no, I understand what you mean by greater good, I explained it poorly, I'd just like to state that it's about the greater good for the caldari. It's not about the greater good for the caldari + minmatar or Cal + Amarr. It's not really stuff that's done pro bono, it's done because our interests align. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1007	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:38:00 - [7] - Quote 1) Shaatei (Lowest Ranking Member) 2) Ashigaru (Foot soldiers of Feudal Japan) 3) Kirjuun (caldari word equivalent of 'comrade') 4) Shogun (Ancient Warlords 5) Daimyo (Landowning Noble) 6) R+ìj+½ (Highest Ranking in their group) 7) Kugy+ì (Most powerful men in a court) 8) Baku (A dream eating beast. Also means 'strike' in Napanii.) 9) Raij+½ (A thunder beast that falls to Earth in a ball of Lighting) 10) Rasetsu Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1011	Posted - 2014.07.11 03:01:00 - [8] - Quote ^bemusing but I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have passed the censors like that. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1012	Posted - 2014.07.11 10:08:00 - [9] - Quote I'd love title to be displayed on killfeed Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1013	Posted - 2014.07.11 14:53:00 - [10] - Quote It's not based off the play, it's based off of the figure of myth. A hundred handed Titan of incredible might and ferocity that fought against other titans in the name of freedom against tyrrany. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

MINA Longstrike 1013	Posted - 2014.07.12 17:38:00 - [11] - Quote Taskanoss wrote: A suggestion, that might be of use would be to have a rank symbol to match the title found in character information. That might be alright. Any ideas for gallente titles? Stuff like ekdromos or hoplite? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1013	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:40:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I don't really see the need to have a mythical name for the ranking. I don't see why they'd have to be so boringly uninspired as military stuff like 'sergeant', make them interesting. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1053	Posted - 2014.07.24 09:12:00 - [13] - Quote Bumping, trying to come up with a gallente list. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1055	Posted - 2014.07.24 23:26:00 - [14] - Quote Gallente titles. 1) Trophimoi 2) Ekdromoi 3) Homoioi (covered in spartiate link it means 'peers') 4) Sarissophoroi 5) Hoplite 6) Spartiate 7) Somatophylakes I was tempted to replace this with Hetairoi, but that's a bit of a later period thing. 8) Triplotemus 9) Gigas 10) Hekatonkheir More than willing to take suggestions on these, replace some of the name with other things etc, but I like the progression, you start as someone that is essentially adopted into the federation/military, then after a short time you progress to an equal, and eventually an elite, then a warrior of legend and eventually a being of primordial might. Gigas feels a little weak as a title, and I was tempted to use gigantes but it's noted in the article that they weren't necessary larger than other things, just infinitely more ferocious. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1063	Posted - 2014.07.26 22:29:00 - [15] - Quote Bamp Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1098	Posted - 2014.08.01 01:56:00 - [16] - Quote I am kind of working on amarr names with true adamance. What's your thoughts on the gallente ones posted kirk? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1098	Posted - 2014.08.01 05:21:00 - [17] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I am kind of working on amarr names with true adamance. What's your thoughts on the gallente ones posted kirk? Did you post Gallente ones? Sorry I'm on mobile so I may have missed it. On page 6. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1101	Posted - 2014.08.02 04:54:00 - [18] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Good suggestions guys ...but i would say that the Caldari recommendations are are leaning too far with the purely Japanese based titles. As noted several times by CCP they have some distance northern European tones. Off the top of my head I don't have a lot of good ideas but you could weave in some old Prussian military ranks such as: Jaeger (Huntsman, Light Infantry, Scout) Dragoner (actual rank and ties back to the Templis Dragonaurs to a degree) Hauptman / Rittemeister (Captain of Infantry or Cavalry) Oberst (Colonel) I thought the Japanese one was a little bit weak myself, but wasn't too sure on how to improve it, and I have a few ideas for the Amarr one but I'm not entirely sure how to name some of their ranks due to lack of command in the language I'd be working in. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1101	Posted - 2014.08.02 18:59:00 - [19] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: I'm tracking MINA. Heck the Tengu is a Japenese deamon. I was just trying to mix in some of the different names that match the lore. I'm pretty sure I read in an article here Hilmar described the Caldari to an interviewer in the terms "...a mix of Japanese corporations, Finnish machinists, and German military". He didn't say "**" but it seemed implied it was WWII era Vermacht. The ** youth aspect of the caldari is largely due to the tube children after the decimation of caldari prime. Ethnically the caldari are American, German/Russian, and Japanese. Socially they draw the most from Japanese and American corporate cultures (where in japan your boss can tell you to take three weeks off to go and find a woman and get married and that there's office mixers between your place and this other company), and to a lesser extent they draw from other things. Sgt Kirk wrote: wordswordswords I highly suggest you check out the links that I provided with caldari ship names, because in there you can also view all the other faction ship names as well (not just the ones that eve pilots use, but the ones the various empire navies themselves use). For the most part, the names suggested thus far fit the tone and theme of each race very well. Liking or Disliking them is totally up to you, but I'd suggest that if you don't like what people have suggested, make your own suggestions - don't let others decide for you. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1101	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:21:00 - [20] - Quote I did read what you had to say, and I disagreed with most of it. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

MINA Longstrike 1102	Posted - 2014.08.02 21:29:00 - [21] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I see the caldari as the imperialistic era of Japan if that helps :\| No way. The caldari are hyper-capitalists with a side of facism. Think Ron Paul's wet dream (Libertarianism for the non-americans). I think names based upon something from Mussolini era Italy or Franco era Spain would be more fitting. You greatly misunderstand the caldari if that's all you think there is to them. You're so wrong it isn't even funny. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1102	Posted - 2014.08.02 22:24:00 - [22] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I see the caldari as the imperialistic era of Japan if that helps :\| No way. The caldari are hyper-capitalists with a side of facism. Think Ron Paul's wet dream (Libertarianism for the non-americans). I think names based upon something from Mussolini era Italy or Franco era Spain would be more fitting. You greatly misunderstand the caldari if that's all you think there is to them. You're so wrong it isn't even funny. What more is there to understand Mina they are an extremely nationalistic corporatocracy with militaristic tendencies. Japan, prior to the post WWII reconstruction era was a feudal dictatorship with zero independent capitalism on a major scale, a fact dictated by the Japanese cast system, which at the time placed merchants right above the untouchable classes that worked with tanning hides and waste disposal. The caldari are ruled by a governing group of corporations. There were no corporations in premodern Japan. The closest you are going to get were the Dutch traders who were only allowed in a single port city (Nagasaki) and were an extremely small influence on the coutnry as a whole due to the Shogunate's policies. Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy are much more closely related to the portrayal of the Caldari since they were 1) capitalisitc facist states where the goverment was essentially run by a leader who was in bed with the corporate powers. 2) They were highly militaristic emphasizing exactly the same kinds of martial ideas espoused by the Caldari. Additionally have you even looked at the Caldari character models in EvE? The are for the most part European, with very few features of Asiatic peoples. The issue doesn't seem to be that I don't understand Japan or the Caldari, its that you have no clue what you are talking about. Your dime store understanding of Japanese history really isn't enough to make a cross cultural comparison with Bugs Bunny let alone a fictions society with the same depth of background as the Caldari. Consider your self "historianed." <--its like being "lawyered but way less applicable to daily life and really only something actual historians can pull off. It's ironic to make the claim that I have no clue what I'm talking about when you clearly know so little about caldari lore, maybe go read about the state on the wiki for a few hours and you'd have some level of understanding. Dime store understanding indeed. I don't have more time to actually properly dismiss this right now, but I'll see about getting around to it. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.04 00:49:00 - [23] - Quote Just looking at ship names, they seem to be named after a lot of popes, or martyrs, vague military names (with religious association), or after Abrahamic spirits. So to start an Amarr list 1) Turay (means 'private') 2) Templar (Go to title for amarrian immortal mercs) 3) Seren (means 'tyrant' or 'lord', also used as 'captain') 4) Atabeg (title of hereditary nobility) 5) Palatine (High level court title, heavily associated with military) 6) Malik (it means 'king', but we could use it as a refluffed word for 'holder') 7) Aluf (Hebrew word meaning 'Champion', also used as a title for 'general') 8) Kokbiel (Enochian angel, 'Ruler of Planets') - can be replaced for a more appropriate word. 9) Erel (rank of judiac angel, means 'valiant/courageous') 10) Hashmal (rank of judiac angel, means 'shining/glowing') Well, that gets us started. It's not nearly as strong of a list as I would like due to my lack of familiarity with the language in question, felt a bit like I was playing mix and match. Also I really, really wanted to stay away from existing religious titles, and stuff like 'inquisitor / knight errant / justicar / paladin' etc as I find those overused to the point of being stale, Amarr already has tons of ships named like that for its eve pilots. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.04 07:11:00 - [24] - Quote Update: also replaced min rank 8 (alfr) with Vaettr which means 'wight' (which fits the theme), and comes from 'vita' and also means 'to be'. Also, while I understand why you'd want to use "Aegaeon" Galm, that's a title of a specific hekatonkheir and I'd like to keep the titles non-specific so as to individualize anyone who actually hits gallente rank 10 as yet another specific hundred-handed warrior who fought against tyranny for causes that were good and just. Rattati wanted to get the individual suits named, Maybe the commando could be a cottus (striker/furious) and the sentinel could be a briareus (vigorous) Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.04 09:12:00 - [25] - Quote It isn't being named after your corp. It's being named after the same mythological figure you chose to name your corp after as well. Coincidences happen. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.04 17:08:00 - [26] - Quote And yet I point you to galm fae's post about language. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.05 03:51:00 - [27] - Quote Evicer wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: It isn't being named after your corp. It's being named after the same mythological figure you chose to name your corp after as well. Coincidences happen. So you expect EVE players AKA the people that call us "Dust Bunnies" to call us by these deified titles ? When did eve or its players ever enter the picture? Oh right, you're an eve player who jumped right on that entitlement bandwagon and now you spend a great deal of time whining and complaining about dust and 'wasted sub money' and god knows whatever else perceived slight you've managed to get into your head. As I and others said to you the other day when you were gloating about the name hecatonchires, you're the only person I've ever met who is dumb enough to try and take credit for something they have no involvement in. You aren't the origin of greek mythology nor are you responsible for the names of the greek titans and you're about as 'cool' the kids who name themselves 'naruto' and ride on the coattails of someone elses work by trying to stand in the shadow of whatever glory it might have had. Of course you might already know this if you were actually capable of having or recognizing an original thought Evicer. Why don't you go back to being terrible and irrelevant at eve Evicer. Loving all the lossmails you have on Armaeus Hellbrecht. I mean I understand it's hard to recognize thought, care and research put into things like names and you'd love to have it dumbed down to the boring, generic and incredibly overused ranking systems of call of duty which were made easily digestable for people just like you. Because how dare a dust player ever have a nicer sounding title than what you could get in eve! I mean "dust bunnies" don't even do anything for eve players. In summary, all I have to say, Is go be irrelevant and terrible elsewhere, Maybe go try to lose another failfit abaddon in lowsec. Oh and if you weren't so terrible to interact with, you might actually be able to guess who my alts are without donning a tinfoil hat and sounding like an idiot. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.05 06:35:00 - [28] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: TL;DR Lists in other languages mean nothing to the vast majority of the playerbase and therefore should not be used to rank FW participants. FW ranks should be in English and loosely based upon the respective race's core background. Dust players with other languages set as the game's main language should get similar primary language preference. Cool opinion bud. It's nice to see you step away from being overwhelmingly condescending for a minute, to simply being mildly condescending. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1105	Posted - 2014.08.05 08:13:00 - [29] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: TL;DR Lists in other languages mean nothing to the vast majority of the playerbase and therefore should not be used to rank FW participants. FW ranks should be in English and loosely based upon the respective race's core background. Dust players with other languages set as the game's main language should get similar primary language preference. Cool opinion bud. It's nice to see you step away from being overwhelmingly condescending and insulting for a minute, to simply being mildly condescending. You aren't the only source of feedback that the names have been presented to, the vast majority have reacted very positively towards it especially when given a side by side comparison and a little bit more explanation. You're entitled to your opinion, but it isn't an objective fact. I knew you would be hurt and react in accorance with that feeling but you really need to take a step back and do some really deep thinking about what your proposing and how it will be accepted by the entire community not just the 10 or so people actively participating in this thread. Also, while you may have taken my tone to be condescending that really is you reading too much into it. I was actually trying to be respectful of your work and opinion while at the same time pointing out a major issue. It is sad that you reacted exactly as I thought you might. I hoped for more. I have little inclination to believe you're not being 'condescending' when you enter a discussion flinging insults and attacks on the character of others ('dime store understanding'). Things like that flavor whole conversations. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1108	Posted - 2014.08.06 23:26:00 - [30] - Quote FYI, I never made the claim that I was kevall longstride to Galm, I don't know where he got that idea aside from the similarity of our character names. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

MINA Longstrike 1114	Posted - 2014.08.17 22:58:00 - [31] - Quote Evicer wrote: Were not talking about me were talking about the game.About names for FW ranks. You need to get back on the subject at hand and give some citation in game as to why we would have name of deities for FW ranks. No, we are talking about you, because you refuse to discuss things in good nature, you're doing whatever you can to drag things off topic and spout ad hominem about people. As far as 'giving citation', it has been explained repeatedly and in great detail why those names were chosen, you choosing not to take the time to understand another position doesn't mean it has no merit and it certainly doesn't mean it should be explained again. Conversation was good up until you and a few others jumped in here and then it went from "Here's my idea and why I think it has merit" and someone else going "Okay, let me iterate on that or come up with something else" to "DEFEND YOUR IDEA BECAUSE THIS IS THE WORST PIECE OF ** I'VE EVER HEARD FROM THE DUMBEST PERSON I'VE EVER SEEN". One is good natured, the other seeks only to antagonize or ridicule. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1117	Posted - 2014.08.19 04:07:00 - [32] - Quote No Kirk, that was side b. please re-read what you quoted. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1117	Posted - 2014.08.19 04:48:00 - [33] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: No Kirk, that was side b. please re-read what you quoted. If it was pretty obvious I meant side B and was a typo why would you bother to post a correction. Looks at Evicer's Red Herring comment ohh it all makes since. No I genuinely thought you meant side a. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1117	Posted - 2014.08.19 04:50:00 - [34] - Quote Evicer wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Once again Immortal Soldiers =/= Mercenary . If you want to pretend that you're a 'general' in your own corp, or that you were a 'seargeant' named 'kirk' before becoming an immortal mercenary that's all well and good, but it doesn't apply nor should it apply to factional titles because there is [b]no responsibility associated with them.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum Now on to you ...if you want to pretend your a Witch hammer deity/Angel than call your toon that and back off Kirk for putting Seargent in his. You have no ground to stand on. If you want to RP you're descended from Seraphim have your corp give you a Title. SO were listening please tell us why you think Angel names should be associated with The imperial Guard Oh and btw you spelt it wrong . Lovely continued ad hominem evicer. Please keep on attacking the characteristics of people rather than their arguments and wonder why no one cares what you think. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.