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Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1956	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:11:00 - [61] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Lol are you trolling? Because my corp mate switched to k/b, his sensitivity is that of the generic mouse sensitivity we get on PC and he can strafe left and right without the momentum and as such I'll be switching to it at the end of the month. Are you serious? I don't understand how's much better you want it, sure ds3 has aa but to any experienced user of k/b and mouse this is a non factor in the advantage we get. If I'm wrong and your not just whining because your sht then this must be different for individual players because I see people saying how bad it is and others laughing at how easy it is, this must be a matter that differs between individuals, maybe its your hardware, this may sound patronising but are you sitting too far away from your ps3 lol, actually one thing iv not checked is that can you get wireless or is it wired only, never used a mouse on a console. Edit: people like myself who are way better with k/b and mouse by far that have switched to it and laughed at how easily they own ds3 users, I'm looking forward to it. Expect serious trolling if I don't encounter any problems and its just like and PC fps. Nah... the mouse is ****, everyone knows that, if you find the mouse easier is because you find the Emulation more familiar, because you normally use the DS3. But even then.... i'm a mouse user Vet, with the DS3 i can easily get 17 to 20 kills per match, with the mouse i hardly get pass 5 kills per match.... explain that one to me. Because i find that very confusing.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 191	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:13:00 - [62] - Quote I'm sorry, the fact that KB/M support is available for Dust is flat out ********. Why does the PS3 support KB/M? Did anyone ever think maybe that was because the PS3 has a web browser? Probably not. If the intent was for gameplay, why are RTS games almost non existent on the PS3? Trust me, i'd love to play StarCraft or something on my PS3, I was a PC gamer long before I was a console gamer. Petition all you want, KB/M users are and always will be the minority, and that's the way it should be. This is a stupid conversation, and the fact CCP included KB/M support to cater to Eve players (they didn't? Name any other PS3 shooter that supports KB/M ((really hope I don't eat my words on that lol)) is even stupider.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1956	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:17:00 - [63] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: I'm sorry, the fact that KB/M support is available for Dust is flat out ********. Why does the PS3 support KB/M? Did anyone ever think maybe that was because the PS3 has a web browser? Probably not. If the intent was for gameplay, why are RTS games almost non existent on the PS3? Trust me, i'd love to play StarCraft or something on my PS3, I was a PC gamer long before I was a console gamer. Petition all you want, KB/M users are and always will be the minority, and that's the way it should be. This is a stupid conversation, and the fact CCP included KB/M support to cater to Eve players (they didn't? Name any other PS3 shooter that supports KB/M ((really hope I don't eat my words on that lol)) is even stupider. Counter Strike GO supports mouse... there... eat you words. Also, mouse user are minority NOW, they weren't in Chromosome, it was 50/50 then.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 923	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:22:00 - [64] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: [quote=TechMechMeds]Lol are you trolling? Because my corp mate switched to k/b, his sensitivity is that of the generic mouse sensitivity we get on PC and he can strafe left and right without the momentum and as such I'll be switching to it at the end of the month. Are you serious? I don't understand how's much better you want it, sure ds3 has aa but to any experienced user of k/b and mouse this is a non factor in the advantage we get. If I'm wrong and your not just whining because your sht then this must be different for individual players because I see people saying how bad it is and others laughing at how easy it is, this must be a matter that differs between individuals, maybe its your hardware, this may sound patronising but are you sitting too far away from your ps3 lol, actually one thing iv not checked is that can you get wireless or is it wired only, never used a mouse on a console. Edit: people like myself who are way better with k/b and mouse by far that have switched to it and laughed at how easily they own ds3 users, I'm looking forward to it. Expect serious trolling if I don't encounter any problems and its just like and PC fps. Nah... the mouse is ****, everyone knows that, if you find the mouse easier is because you find the Emulation more familiar, because you normally use the DS3. But even then.... i'm a mouse user Vet, with the DS3 i can easily get 17 to 20 kills per match, with the mouse i hardly get pass 5 kills per match.... explain that one to me. Because i find that very confusing. [: I'm also far better with k/b and mouse and I can only go by what I'm observing but what you stated about people being good with an emulator, this makes sense to me and I'm debating if its worth switching now. Thank you.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 923	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:24:00 - [65] - Quote Lol fk knows what's has happened with that quote, hope you get the reply lol
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 923	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:27:00 - [66] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Dunk Mujunk wrote: I'm sorry, the fact that KB/M support is available for Dust is flat out ********. Why does the PS3 support KB/M? Did anyone ever think maybe that was because the PS3 has a web browser? Probably not. If the intent was for gameplay, why are RTS games almost non existent on the PS3? Trust me, i'd love to play StarCraft or something on my PS3, I was a PC gamer long before I was a console gamer. Petition all you want, KB/M users are and always will be the minority, and that's the way it should be. This is a stupid conversation, and the fact CCP included KB/M support to cater to Eve players (they didn't? Name any other PS3 shooter that supports KB/M ((really hope I don't eat my words on that lol)) is even stupider. Counter Strike GO supports mouse... there... eat you words. Also, mouse user are minority NOW, they weren't in Chromosome, it was 50/50 then. With all due respect, that's when the mouse worked almost perfectly and people could turn as quick as what were used to on PC, that's the advantage I'm on about.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 192	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:27:00 - [67] - Quote lol, ok, lemme get some hot sauce. But yeah, that's one game. They may not have been the minority back then, but they are now. As they should be, cause this is PS3. I'm not trying to be an ass, but if I want to use a KB/M then I will hop on my PC and play something there. It's not that CCP is having trouble making the mouse as good as the DS3, it's that they are trying to keep the mouse from being better than the DS3. And a raw input mouse is far better for FPS than the DS3. With so many other problems to address, KB/M users should be waaaaaay at the bottom of the list. Or just say **** it and take Dust off PS3 and put it on PC like some people want. The stupid PS3 light gun (or whatever it is called) should be getting more attention than the KB/M. Just my opinions though.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 926	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:32:00 - [68] - Quote Maybe they put the emulator there to ween pure k/b and mouse users onto a controller because seriously you can't honestly say that if we had raw input we wouldn't ROFL stomp, the advantage would have me laughing my arse off watching ds3 users trying to turn lol and I don't think CCP could do something that stupid without a motive.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 192	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:46:00 - [69] - Quote Also, i'm sure there where just as many KB/M users in the beginning because most of the player base was from Eve and barely anyone else on the planet knew Dust existed. CCP has done a **** poor job of advertising this game, and I've only seen mention of it 2 times in GameInformer, once as 1 of many games in a list of coming online games (that was like at least a year ago), and 1 more time in an article bashing the game (which was also a long time ago now). The way I hear Eve players talk about Dust, they jumped in to try and get a leg up in Eve, didn't like Dust, and left. So I don't imagine there were many non Eve players in the beginning. If KB/M use had continued to grow and over taken the DS3, yea, go full on for the KB/M. But seeing as how the numbers have declined as Eve players left and non Eve players got into Dust, I really don't see any reason to either improve KB/M, or really even keep it.
bolsh lee MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 627	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:50:00 - [70] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Maybe they put the emulator there to ween pure k/b and mouse users onto a controller because seriously you can't honestly say that if we had raw input we wouldn't ROFL stomp, the advantage would have me laughing my arse off watching ds3 users trying to turn lol and I don't think CCP could do something that stupid without a motive. That's the theroy of why there is an emulation, but it hasn't stoped anything as far as turning speeds.. With a high DPS mouse you can spin four 360s by the time an analog does one but the higher the DPS mouse makes for more wildly innacurate hipfire and ADS.. All this ****** emulation has done is pushed true tryhards to go purchases an eagle eye or converter of sorts which then gives them twitch turning plus aim assist for those that think this emulation is "good" now imagine adding aim assist to it.. Like anything in life the more restrictions you create will only alienate a certain percentage of players hence pushing potential players/revenue away and forcing others to exploit a broken systems ....

KA24DERT Pure Innocence. EoN. 197	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:53:00 - [71] - Quote To get this thread back on topic: Part of the reason we're being ignored is that we are a minority, and there are other high priority things that are broken in Dust (I can understand that, but would appreciate timetables) But another reason is the DS3 whiners and KB/M haters that feel the absolute, burning, undesirable need to poop all over any thread having to do with KB/M. They come with the same tired dogma: "HURR DURR DIS IS A CONSOLE", while ignoring the fact that the PS3 can do whatever you program it to do. Hell, at one point Linux was a fully supported option. They come with the the same myths: "OMG KEYBOARD STRAFING IS OP", when no type of input can overcome the inertia of your character in the game when it comes to changing direction. They come with the same old hyperbole: "KEYBOARDS WILL ALWAYS WIN AGAINST DS3", when in reality the top Dust players are mostly DS3 users. And when asked why they don't switch to the KB/M Master Race and go 150 and 0: "LOL I'M NOT A TRY HARD I JUST WANT TO BE ON MY COUCH", when validating their silly hypothesis only takes $20 bucks at walmart to buy a KB/M combo. They come with the same crap every time, they can't be reasoned with, and they come in huge numbers, with no MODs to stop them from trolling. Start a thread about actual issues with the mouse, and the mouth breathers come full force. Again, If you guys want to trash talk, go start a thread about how KB/M should be removed from the game. This thread is about a feature that needs fixing.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2197	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:01:00 - [72] - Quote Wow, make a KBM thread and watch every drooling subhuman on the forums rant about how controllers are the only acceptable input device for consoles. Take a second to let what we're saying sink in. I can't make this more clear, morons; when KBM was at its absolute best DS3 still dominated. If you are mad at KBM users killing you you're bad. You should feel bad. How can there be any argument that KBM is vastly superior in the hands of any scrub when the leaderboards are dominated by DS3 users? Why do DS3 users feel so threatened by KBM when they have already proved they can outperform KBM?
Kazeno Rannaa BIG BAD W0LVES 293	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:05:00 - [73] - Quote M McManus wrote: All m/kb users who are unhappy with the current controls and sensitivity should let their voice be heard.. File a support ticket, create threads, raise hell till we get a response/acknowledgement from Devs.. The aim and control sticky in the feedback section has now been removed Even after multiple kb/m users expresed their concerns with the current mouse emulation vs DS3 aim assist there was never a response from a Dev.. Friends of mine who use kb/m and myself have posted support tickets and they refer us to post on the forums. . The small minority of vocal mouse users who make threads have half trolls and half users struggling with the following.. Wobbling ADS Inaccurate hip fire slides left and right Acceleration to slow on some mouse types Now before the DS3 users get on here and say htfu its a console use a controller gtfo tryhard etc When the DS3 was slow and ****** up in chromosome and pre 1.4 you guys were pissed and extremly vocal about it... Now put yourself in our shoes you're still unable to track tagets the controls have a mind of there own and you're constantly going up against other players that get aim assist and you have pre 1.4 controls. . Now I will say that I am a DS3 user. That is because I am on a console. Not a PC. It would make sense that a game made for consoles should focus on the control device that was designed for it. SInce the console was not designed with KB/M in mind in the first place, you may suffer the fact that the support for it may be lacking. You may also notice that the support for DS3 users may be superior. The reason for this is as described above and the fact that the general population is predominantly DS3 users. It is almost democratic to a point of standing populations. You may want to consider making a switch in your control device until they are able to devote the necessary resurces to fix the issue that you are observing. I a m sorry to here it, but in all honesty I feel there shouldn't be KB/M and DS3 together for the sake of maintaining a stable ground for the player base to operate from in competitive matches.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1754	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:06:00 - [74] - Quote Green Living wrote: Shotty GoBang wrote: My shotgun can't hit ADADAD super strafers. Will try to get good. In the mean time, I'd say that's a pretty strong advantage. Within the last week I have picked up the shotgun ( level 5 ) out of boredom with other weapons. I don't see how you do it, the hit detection is absolutely atrocious. I have used every other weapon in Uprising ( other than Plasma Cannon ) they all seem to be fine other than the poor shotgun. Some days the Shotgun is reliable (75% or higher hit detection), other times it is consistently inconsistent (50% or lower). Latency and environment tend to determine whether or not I hit what I'm shooting at. Indoor engagements are noticeably less reliable than outdoor. Strangely, an HMG going off nearby tends to slow down CQC framerate, which makes tracking more difficult. Making use of Shotgun Proficiency actual detracts from likelihood to hit; pausing a second or so between blasts tends to help alot. I know, I know. Tinfoil hat and tissues for me. But this wasn't the case in Chromosome.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1957	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:06:00 - [75] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Lol fk knows what's has happened with that quote, hope you get the reply lol Just about.... The point is... If i am a Mouse user vet.. and i mean 10+ years Vet, and i can get 17 to 20 kills easily with the DS3, but straggle to get more than 7 kills with the mouse... is something obviously wrong with this picture, don't you think ? It makes you wonder... a lot.....
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 270	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:10:00 - [76] - Quote The devs have ignored mouse users for months, and have ruined key portions of their game with their blatantly ignorant 'additions' and 'tweaks' since Uprising. I left the game after the first 'overhaul' of the mouse when it was easy to tell they are keeping us behind an emulator. I refuse to play Dust 514 with current input states. Anyone who thinks mouse aiming is good in this game needs to go play a REAL mouse aiming game. I love the idea behind dust, but CCP Shanghai has proven they don't have a clue how to do this game right.
bolsh lee MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 628	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:14:00 - [77] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Wow, make a KBM thread and watch every drooling subhuman on the forums rant about how controllers are the only acceptable input device for consoles. Take a second to let what we're saying sink in. I can't make this more clear, morons; when KBM was at its absolute best DS3 still dominated. If you are mad at KBM users killing you you're bad. You should feel bad. How can there be any argument that KBM is vastly superior in the hands of any scrub when the leaderboards are dominated by DS3 users? Why do DS3 users feel so threatened by KBM when they have already proved they can outperform KBM? QFT And why does CCP feel the need to restrict kb/m when DS3 runs those boards .. usually CCP bases decisions on data this seems like a purely spontaneous and semi apathetic move.. Especially considering from the beginning of Dusts development they had promised NATIVE kb/m support, ok sure its native to the game but I can't call it kb/m..
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 296	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:22:00 - [78] - Quote Kazeno Rannaa wrote: Hurr CONSOLE Seriously, what do you care how and where I press my buttons? What next, you come to my house and check if I am using an -¦merrican adapter, cos european standart is not the way console is supposed to be powered? Are you people insane?
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1755	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:28:00 - [79] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Shotty GoBang wrote: My shotgun can't hit ADADAD super strafers. Will try to get good. In the mean time, I'd say that's a pretty strong advantage. You are lying. This is a lie. I tested strafing direction changes in all classes of suits with DS3 and Keyboard. There is NO difference in keyboard vs ds3 strafing speed, and there is NO difference time it takes to switch strafe directions. Go test it yourself before you perpetuate a myth. You are correct about strafe speed (same). But directional change is substantially different between DS3 and KB/M. Don't be mad at me for pointing this out. Its a fact, dudebro. What may be a miniscule difference at range is magnified up close. Rerun your test up close, preferably in the Research Facility. Make sure everyone's firing their guns (this summons the pellet phantom). See how often that Shotgunner misses. While in his optimal (and only) range.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 193	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:43:00 - [80] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: How can there be any argument that KBM is vastly superior in the hands of any scrub when the leaderboards are dominated by DS3 users? Why do DS3 users feel so threatened by KBM when they have already proved they can outperform KBM? Because mouse input isn't raw. If it was, mouse users would dominate. Mouse users are basing their ideal input off of games with no restrictions. If the KB/M is to be left in, it should stay right around where it is now. If you want unrestricted mouse input, there are many games available on PC to cater to your needs. I would imagine from this point most new players joining Dust will be using DS3's, so in the interest of the health of Dust, it is better to lose the smaller amount of KB/M users than it is to lose the larger amount of DS3 users.

Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 297	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:56:00 - [81] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Because mouse input isn't raw. If it was, mouse users would dominate. Mouse users are basing their ideal input off of games with no restrictions. If the KB/M is to be left in, it should stay right around where it is now. If you want unrestricted mouse input, there are many games available on PC to cater to your needs. I would imagine from this point most new players joining Dust will be using DS3's, so in the interest of the health of Dust, it is better to lose the smaller amount of KB/M users than it is to lose the larger amount of DS3 users. So for the interest of the health of the community, this which shall be put to death by fire! Arent you a fast one to sacrifice? I love how every single argument in the "debate" was self-proclaimed representation of the majority.
8213 Grade No.2 507	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:01:00 - [82] - Quote You know, when PS1 and N64 consoles cae out back in the day, it was finally a console that could support long time PC games. Such as DOOM, Quake, etc. Games like Need for Speed were built exclusively for Consoles. So the debate started, can we have cross platform games? The answer, was of course. You can have Need for Speed on PC, you can Have DOOM on your N64. Then the debate came up for DOOM to be able to use KB&M on the Nintendo 64. Back then, Nintendo simply said they weren't going to bother making something that third party controllers could used on, they already had enough lose in business from that. Then, the next generation consoles had something amazing, they could do what PC people had been doing for a decade prior, and that was online play. Enter Call of Duty multiplayer, and Counterstrike... It was determined by every video game publication ever made that KB&M was superior. For 2 very simple, yet large, reasons. 1. Ergonomics- You used more muscle and precision using the KB&M. You're entire forearm has better movement and control than one of your thumbs or fingers. Your point on the screen could line up with your mind's eye better with KB&M. A good example of this is, try to draw 5 circles with a mouse using a paint program. different sizes. Now, try to do it with the a analog stick. That's why Kontrol Freaks, those analog extenders, work better, because they increase your movement range & to better be like a mouse. A mouse is said to be the equivalent of 20 Kontrol Freak add-ons. And why top gamers in the world of FPS use what is called the "Claw" grip on there controller.(look up what that is) 2. Speed control- A controller is set at a specific speed for movement. You can adjust the sensitivity, but its finite. You set it to 10, you move it left, it will go 10 speed every time. With a mouse, you can control how fast you move the mouse, and how far you move it. You can also change direction camera better (because in actualality, in FPS, you're moving the camera, not the character... kind of like rotating the Earth to suit your POV. Think how racing games have the car in the middle of the screen at all times) by pressing keys, than moving the analog stick. The list as to why KB&M and superior has been noted. Sure, there are few exceptions on a game-by-game basis. But KB&M is better. A mouse is a better tool. This why you are reading this forum using a mouse to scroll with, and not a controller. So, consoles made games for controllers and PCs for KB&M. Consoles got aim assist to compensate for the lack of precision KB&M has so games wouldn't be total clusterf*cks. So, when you try to mix them, like DUST has... it creates a problem. So, should KB&M be a viable platform on DUST 514? Sure, if you get rid of controllers too. The reason KB&M can even be used on a PS3 is because of the browser (again, a mouse being better to work with than an analog stick). And, because of the USB port being a more efficient design for manufacturing and devices. You can't have KB&M and Controller on the same platform and expect them to be equal, 100% impossible.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 931	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:02:00 - [83] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Lol fk knows what's has happened with that quote, hope you get the reply lol Just about.... The point is... If i am a Mouse user vet.. and i mean 10+ years Vet, and i can get 17 to 20 kills easily with the DS3, but straggle to get more than 7 kills with the mouse... is something obviously wrong with this picture, don't you think ? It makes you wonder... a lot..... Nah I agree emulators of anything are always sht but raw input would seriously be god mode, ds3 users aim assist wouldn't even come close, I'd never have to worry about sneaky buggers again because within a split second I'd have turned and be shooting them in the face. Raw input would be pure beast mode for experienced players and you know it lol I'm not saying it shouldn't be put in the game, I'd just switch over night, the problem is that it would inevitably get nerfed, that's probably why CCP don't even acknowledge the demand for raw input because its pretty obvious lol.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 194	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:03:00 - [84] - Quote Well, if a sacrifice will gain the favor of god/gods, yeah, kill it quick. And yeah, DS3 is the majority. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. You may want to remove the quotations from around debate on your post. I've been fairly level headed in my posts on this thread, as have many KB/M users. I'd like to continue the debate, but it seems you are the one who wants to have a "debate". As far as i'm concerned you want nothing but raw input. If that's not the case please enlighten me in a civilized manner.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 340	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:04:00 - [85] - Quote Buttercup Chipmint wrote: True balance will never be achieved between DS3 and KB/M so CCP has to at least get one correct. This being a console FPS on a PS3 he DS3 will always win do to the massive QQ CCP will get if they can not at least have the DS3 working 100%. I would get rid of KB/M support all together, if you want to play a FPS using a KB/M then go play a PC FPS. I agree. This is a console game everyone with a ps3 has a controller not everyone has a kb / mouse set up. The only part ccp should spend any effort on is the controller. I would even say ccp should save themselves some headaches and officially drop all support for kb / mouse control then if keyboard users have issues they can figure it out themselves.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 931	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:04:00 - [86] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Dunk Mujunk wrote: Because mouse input isn't raw. If it was, mouse users would dominate. Mouse users are basing their ideal input off of games with no restrictions. If the KB/M is to be left in, it should stay right around where it is now. If you want unrestricted mouse input, there are many games available on PC to cater to your needs. I would imagine from this point most new players joining Dust will be using DS3's, so in the interest of the health of Dust, it is better to lose the smaller amount of KB/M users than it is to lose the larger amount of DS3 users. So for the interest of the health of the community, this which shall be put to death by fire! Arent you a fast one to sacrifice? I love how every single argument in the "debate" was self-proclaimed representation of the majority. Sadly though, like it or not, he's right.
Paran Tadec Ancient Exiles 1493	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:10:00 - [87] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Lol are you trolling? Because my corp mate switched to k/b, his sensitivity is that of the generic mouse sensitivity we get on PC and he can strafe left and right without the momentum and as such I'll be switching to it at the end of the month. Are you serious? I don't understand how's much better you want it, sure ds3 has aa but to any experienced user of k/b and mouse this is a non factor in the advantage we get. If I'm wrong and your not just whining because your sht then this must be different for individual players because I see people saying how bad it is and others laughing at how easy it is, this must be a matter that differs between individuals, maybe its your hardware, this may sound patronising but are you sitting too far away from your ps3 lol, actually one thing iv not checked is that can you get wireless or is it wired only, never used a mouse on a console. You used the wrong "you're" You're dead to me. Don't give me that rubbish, its a game forum, not a business interaction. You're kidding, right? Proper grammar is always important.
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 298	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:11:00 - [88] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Well, if a sacrifice will gain the favor of god/gods, yeah, kill it quick. And yeah, DS3 is the majority. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. You may want to remove the quotations from around debate on your post. I've been fairly level headed in my posts on this thread, as have many KB/M users. I'd like to continue the debate, but it seems you are the one who wants to have a "debate". As far as i'm concerned you want nothing but raw input. If that's not the case please enlighten me in a civilized manner. Raw input? God forbid, that would imply no deadzone and shaking all over the place. A non-sh!tty control scheme is what I want. And you seem to mistake this thread for "Should KB/M Users be phased out?". If you want a civil discussion about phasing out players, have it in there.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 932	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:16:00 - [89] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Lol are you trolling? Because my corp mate switched to k/b, his sensitivity is that of the generic mouse sensitivity we get on PC and he can strafe left and right without the momentum and as such I'll be switching to it at the end of the month. Are you serious? I don't understand how's much better you want it, sure ds3 has aa but to any experienced user of k/b and mouse this is a non factor in the advantage we get. If I'm wrong and your not just whining because your sht then this must be different for individual players because I see people saying how bad it is and others laughing at how easy it is, this must be a matter that differs between individuals, maybe its your hardware, this may sound patronising but are you sitting too far away from your ps3 lol, actually one thing iv not checked is that can you get wireless or is it wired only, never used a mouse on a console. You used the wrong "you're" You're dead to me. Don't give me that rubbish, its a game forum, not a business interaction. You're kidding, right? Proper grammar is always important. Not on a game forum you sad git lol.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 933	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:19:00 - [90] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Dunk Mujunk wrote: Well, if a sacrifice will gain the favor of god/gods, yeah, kill it quick. And yeah, DS3 is the majority. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. You may want to remove the quotations from around debate on your post. I've been fairly level headed in my posts on this thread, as have many KB/M users. I'd like to continue the debate, but it seems you are the one who wants to have a "debate". As far as i'm concerned you want nothing but raw input. If that's not the case please enlighten me in a civilized manner. Raw input? God forbid, that would imply no deadzone and shaking all over the place. A non-sh!tty control scheme is what I want. And you seem to mistake this thread for "Should KB/M Users be phased out?". If you want a civil discussion about phasing out players, have it in there. This thread is in general discussions. If it was in feedback requests you could use the 'I'm asking CCP not you so stfu' line, but not here.



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