Because mouse input isn't raw. If it was, mouse users would dominate. Mouse users are basing their ideal input off of games with no restrictions. If the KB/M is to be left in, it should stay right around where it is now. If you want unrestricted mouse input, there are many games available on PC to cater to your needs. I would imagine from this point most new players joining Dust will be using DS3's, so in the interest of the health of Dust, it is better to lose the smaller amount of KB/M users than it is to lose the larger amount of DS3 users.

Not on a game forum you sad git lol.

You are a moron. CCP added KBM support because they refused to put it on PC (where real shooters belong) to weed out all the 12 yr old mouth breathers. Unfortunately CCP went with PS3, but atleast they had voice chat off by default so I didnt have to listen to you kiddies eat your mics.

KBM needs to be raw input. The only argument against it that you can manage to scrape up is that "dis iz consul" crap. We had great aiming before with KBM and DS3 in Chromosome, which was before many of you scrubs joined up here.

I'm calling you out as an alt because your as much of a troll petty **** as someone I had an altercation with yesterday and those kind of insignificant buggers are hard to come by.

Seriously parenn, you have to be a troll neckbeard to think grammar matters on a fking game forum, Get real squirt I'm on a tablet,, that's about a years pocket money to you.

This post is so blatantly trying to justify a big advantage, I'm calling you out as an alt because your as much of a troll petty **** as someone I had an altercation with yesterday and those kind of insignificant buggers are hard to come by.

They included KB/M because the game originally was supposed to go full multiplat, and they kept KB/M because nieche appeal is what they make their money from.

Lol. You know, when someone tries to use age as a reference in these forums it usually to mask their own age.

Alright, so lets all get on the same page here. Beeeees, not trying to phase out KB/M users. Just don't want them having normal PC input (you know, cause we aren't on a PC). You say KB/M users don't want raw input?

Well apparently your buddy Paran Tadec disagrees with you.

Beeeees, it is not that I want no KB/M, it's that I don't think KB/M users would be satisfied with a control scheme until it was far superior to the DS3, not because KB/M users are @ssholes, but because there is an expected way a KB/M operates, and in my opinion this cannot be reached without putting the DS3 at a disadvantage, and seeing as how this is a PS3 game, that would not be a prudent move by CCP.

As for you Paran Tadec, I highly doubt CCP included KB/M support because they didn't put the game on PC. I would imagine it was due to the fact that almost nobody on the planet knew Dust was even coming, aside from Eve players, and they hoped to gain more players by including KB/M. I don't know what "kiddies" you are referring to, but maybe you need to switch corps if you don't like the age group of your current one. You can't hear the enemy, and if you are in squad or corp chat you can't hear randoms. I would also suggest actually reading the thread, since there are plenty of reasons for lack of KB/M support in the community beyond "dis iz consul". Also, i'm not sure if you are aware, but you spelled those 3 words wrong.

You liked Chromosome times better? That's to bad cause that time has passed. I would suggest injecting a bit more intelligence into your posts. You are a representative of the KB/M side of this debate, and you just made your side look that much stupider.

Now before the DS3 users get on here and say htfu its a console use a controller gtfo tryhard etc

When the DS3 was slow and ****** up in chromosome and pre 1.4 you guys were pissed and extremly vocal about it...

Now put yourself in our shoes you're still unable to track tagets the controls have a mind of there own and you're constantly going up against other players that get aim assist and you have pre 1.4 controls. .

You liked Chromosome times better? That's to bad cause that time has passed. I would suggest injecting a bit more intelligence into your posts. You are a representative of the KB/M side of this debate, and you just made your side look that much stupider.

Beeeees, it is not that I want no KB/M, it's that I don't think KB/M users would be satisfied with a control scheme until it was far superior to the DS3, not because KB/M users are @ssholes, but because there is an expected way a KB/M operates, and in my opinion this cannot be reached without putting the DS3 at a disadvantage, and seeing as how this is a PS3 game, that would not be a prudent move by CCP.

Are you focken serious m8?
How long do you think this debate goes on?

Good for you to be calm about this only joining in the debate today. At about 6th mentally challenged individual sh!tting in MY cornflakes a day because they feel like jumping a bandwagon I start to lose my temper. Especially when I get baited for ad hominem and then called out for it by a twink.

Are you focken serious m8?
How long do you think this debate goes on?

Good for you to be calm about this only joining in the debate today. At about 6th mentally challenged individual sh!tting in MY cornflakes a day because they feel like jumping a bandwagon I start to lose my temper. Especially when I get baited for ad hominem and then called out for it by a twink.



In Chromo and now still top players are supposedly DS3 users, your point doesnt stand an inch.
The DS3 got aimbot level auto aim right now, so there IS a way of not putting DS3 at a disadvantage, it already exists.

So, now that all the grabass-ery is out of the way. Beeeees, in what way would you like to see the current KB/M setup changed? I'm not trolling, i'm seriously curious. The others in your camp seem a bit.......special........but I would like to know what exactly you are looking for from your KB/M.

There still seems to be a communication break down.

I am not saying KB/M is to powerful now.

I am saying expected KB/M performance would be more powerful than DS3.

I am saying on the Playstation 3 Home Video Game Console, with a large portion of the player base using the standard PS3 control device, or Dual Shock 3, giving the KB/M performance that would be expected from a normal PC FPS is a very bad idea.

I have also asked what changes you would make to the KB/M that would, in your eyes, be fair to both PS3 and KB/M, and I am still waiting for something other than anger.

EDIT: Disregard, I see your above post.

Current KBM is fine, but only if you remove aim assist for DS3.

Simple.
Positive and negative acceleration has to go. I dont need anything more, I want a 5 degree movement from my elbow to translate to roughly the same result every time I move my mouse.

I realize that speed caps were a must (before aimbot), but to make me turn slower the faster I move my mouse to the point I do not turn at all is grade A bullshit.

Currently, long range shooting can be a bit tricky with the DS3 (sniping is the best example). At long ranges the DS3s movement is not very fine at all, and lining up a head shot with said sniper rifle requires a trial and error of moving cross hairs far away from the targets head, then moving back towards the head, hoping that when you stop you land right on it, because moving the crosshair just an eight of a centimeter is nearly impossible with the DS3.

Lol Paran and Beeeees.

I personally would like AA to be removed, but at the end of the day, when I picture KB/M, I picture all the FPS games I've played on PC, and that is what scares me, and lessens my support of KB/M. If a happy medium could ever be found, I would have no problems.

We are depending on this balance to come from CCP though, and that should be the scariest part for both sides.

You talking about few Unreal mouse users...that have incredible reflexes and tactical awareness, with inhuman accuracy. That doesn't means that EVERY mouse user is like that. When i get in the Zone with the mouse, it looks like i using every single hack you can think of... but i have 10 years of experience, and a lot Pro Competitive gaming when i was younger. Just because some people can do that, doesn't means that everyone can do it too.