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M McManus
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:24:00 -
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Wait !? I thought this topic was locked did petitions work and CCP actually unlocked it !? I've taken a break from the game and forums till CCP fixes this **** they call kb/m..  |

Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1801
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:24:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Kb/m lol, for those unable to use their thumbs well. Get guud ?
People like this are missing the point about a Keyboard and Mouse 3rd party Emulator in DUST 514.
No matter what Platform DUST 514 is hosted on.. It is part of the New Eden Galaxy.. And by extension EVE online. CCP knew people from EVE online would want to play DUST... and generally PC players would like to play DUST 514.
And for a PC player, or an EVE player... Going out and spending 60 bux on a Keyboard and Mouse Emulator isn't much expense at all.
The problem with this is if you take that 3rd party Emulator and Use it with a game like CoD or Battlefield or even DUST 514(Now).. You now have a mouse with Aim assist... What people in the PC world refer to as Aim Hacks. CCP knew this when developing DUST 514. They knew New Eden players would go out and buy a 60 dollar piece of hardware to take advantage of the situation and gain a natural advantage.
CCP then set out to offer native Keyboard and Mouse Support for DUST 514 and then Balanced it with the DS3, By many different limitations.. So if you went out and bought a 60 dollar piece of hardware it made no difference in your control input and gameplay then just plugging the USB's into the Playstation.
The way they have COMPLETELY unbalanced the peripherals has CREATED a natural advantage in DUST 514 for anyone that goes out and buys an 3rd party Emulator to Emulate the DS3's Aim assist and Hit detection.
Fixing controls for a game is a Core Mechanic.. It needs addressing for the benefit of DUST as a whole.. |

DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
275
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:48:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Kb/m lol, for those unable to use their thumbs well. Get guud ? People like this are missing the point about a Keyboard and Mouse 3rd party Emulator in DUST 514. No matter what Platform DUST 514 is hosted on.. It is part of the New Eden Galaxy.. And by extension EVE online. CCP knew people from EVE online would want to play DUST... and generally PC players would like to play DUST 514. And for a PC player, or an EVE player... Going out and spending 60 bux on a Keyboard and Mouse Emulator isn't much expense at all. The problem with this is if you take that 3rd party Emulator and Use it with a game like CoD or Battlefield or even DUST 514(Now).. You now have a mouse with Aim assist... What people in the PC world refer to as Aim Hacks. CCP knew this when developing DUST 514. They knew New Eden players would go out and buy a 60 dollar piece of hardware to take advantage of the situation and gain a natural advantage. CCP then set out to offer native Keyboard and Mouse Support for DUST 514 and then Balanced it with the DS3, By many different limitations.. So if you went out and bought a 60 dollar piece of hardware it made no difference in your control input and gameplay then just plugging the USB's into the Playstation. The way they have COMPLETELY unbalanced the peripherals has CREATED a natural advantage in DUST 514 for anyone that goes out and buys an 3rd party Emulator to Emulate the DS3's Aim assist and Hit detection. Fixing controls for a game is a Core Mechanic.. It needs addressing for the benefit of DUST as a whole.. I have tried explaining this to the KB/M haters in numerous threads & it gets ignored everytime. I just recently got a Logitech G502 to replace my broken RAT7. It performs much better than my RAT7, but still sucks compared to my 5 year old Tuact Aimon PS in Dust514. I will persevere, if only for the challenge & to practice. But I plan on getting a Vemon X for my jump to PS4 next year. |

Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2349
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:50:00 -
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$60 for a kb/m emulator?!
What a rip off.
I got mine from salvaged parts and $15.
xD
HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes.
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
931
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:27:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Kb/m lol, for those unable to use their thumbs well. Get guud ? People like this are missing the point about a Keyboard and Mouse 3rd party Emulator in DUST 514. No matter what Platform DUST 514 is hosted on.. It is part of the New Eden Galaxy.. And by extension EVE online. CCP knew people from EVE online would want to play DUST... and generally PC players would like to play DUST 514. And for a PC player, or an EVE player... Going out and spending 60 bux on a Keyboard and Mouse Emulator isn't much expense at all. The problem with this is if you take that 3rd party Emulator and Use it with a game like CoD or Battlefield or even DUST 514(Now).. You now have a mouse with Aim assist... What people in the PC world refer to as Aim Hacks. CCP knew this when developing DUST 514. They knew New Eden players would go out and buy a 60 dollar piece of hardware to take advantage of the situation and gain a natural advantage. CCP then set out to offer native Keyboard and Mouse Support for DUST 514 and then Balanced it with the DS3, By many different limitations.. So if you went out and bought a 60 dollar piece of hardware it made no difference in your control input and gameplay then just plugging the USB's into the Playstation. The way they have COMPLETELY unbalanced the peripherals has CREATED a natural advantage in DUST 514 for anyone that goes out and buys an 3rd party Emulator to Emulate the DS3's Aim assist and Hit detection. Fixing controls for a game is a Core Mechanic.. It needs addressing for the benefit of DUST as a whole..
QFT |

Beld Errmon
1609
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:11:00 -
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Lock the thread, unlock the thread, but post in it... unthinkable, theres far to many vapid threads to respond to, perhaps a tired old meme hasn't been spoken, KB/M users have been waiting for months they can wait a bit longer.
Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
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Blondie Roads
Introverts 4 Hire
49
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Posted - 2014.04.24 22:06:00 -
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I will keep waiting... And when they finnally bring back chromozone m/kb controlls, I shall return and smite all the ney saying thumb jockeys. |

RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
593
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Posted - 2014.04.25 10:58:00 -
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Blondie Roads wrote:I will keep waiting... And when they finnally bring back chromozone m/kb controlls, I shall return and smite all the ney saying thumb jockeys. As will I. |

ROMULUS H3X
research lab
129
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Posted - 2014.04.25 11:13:00 -
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M McManus wrote:All m/kb users who are unhappy with the current controls and sensitivity should let their voice be heard.. File a support ticket, create threads, raise hell till we get a response/acknowledgement from Devs..
- The aim and control sticky in the feedback section has now been removed
- Even after multiple kb/m users expresed their concerns with the current mouse emulation vs DS3 aim assist there was never a response from a Dev..
- Friends of mine who use kb/m and myself have posted support tickets and they refer us to post on the forums. .
- The small minority of vocal mouse users who make threads have half trolls and half users struggling with the following..
Wobbling ADS Inaccurate hip fire slides left and right Acceleration to slow on some mouse types
Now before the DS3 users get on here and say htfu its a console use a controller gtfo tryhard etc When the DS3 was slow and ****** up in chromosome and pre 1.4 you guys were pissed and extremly vocal about it... Now put yourself in our shoes you're still unable to track tagets the controls have a mind of there own and you're constantly going up against other players that get aim assist and you have pre 1.4 controls. .
I don't feel any problems with kb/m, I don't see what you are crying about here.... the KB/m controls have a much higher sensitivity than the DS3
Are you using that Aim-Assist scrub mechanic? Because that could be what's ******* with your shots if you are using a mouse... I turned that crap off.
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED
YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN
-Romulus H3X
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
933
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Posted - 2014.04.25 11:56:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:M McManus wrote:All m/kb users who are unhappy with the current controls and sensitivity should let their voice be heard.. File a support ticket, create threads, raise hell till we get a response/acknowledgement from Devs..
- The aim and control sticky in the feedback section has now been removed
- Even after multiple kb/m users expresed their concerns with the current mouse emulation vs DS3 aim assist there was never a response from a Dev..
- Friends of mine who use kb/m and myself have posted support tickets and they refer us to post on the forums. .
- The small minority of vocal mouse users who make threads have half trolls and half users struggling with the following..
Wobbling ADS Inaccurate hip fire slides left and right Acceleration to slow on some mouse types
Now before the DS3 users get on here and say htfu its a console use a controller gtfo tryhard etc When the DS3 was slow and ****** up in chromosome and pre 1.4 you guys were pissed and extremly vocal about it... Now put yourself in our shoes you're still unable to track tagets the controls have a mind of there own and you're constantly going up against other players that get aim assist and you have pre 1.4 controls. . I don't feel any problems with kb/m, I don't see what you are crying about here.... the KB/m controls have a much higher sensitivity than the DS3 Are you using that Aim-Assist scrub mechanic? Because that could be what's ******* with your shots if you are using a mouse... I turned that crap off.
Not to speak for OP but this thread is filled with people having issues with kb/m if you feel nothings wrong with it then you're either a casual player or bad.... ? To not realize how unresponsive and floaty the mouse is, one would have to be extremely disconnected from what kb/m should be.. Or they're content with their performance and/or have adapted to this awful emulation put on by CCP...
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
3642
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:01:00 -
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I laugh every time this thread gets bumped.
Because the absolute pure lack of blue tag after so many pages just proves the title right every time it rises from the ashes. |

Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
804
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:12:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I laugh every time this thread gets bumped.
Because the absolute pure lack of blue tag after so many pages just proves the title right every time it rises from the ashes.
I enjoy some of these responses.
Betthy for instance made such a long winded speech to say "give kb/M raw input because we are just buying workarounds that give us aim assist as well as a superior aiming method"
Only the dust community produces such heavy loads of horse ****. |

Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1838
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:16:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I laugh every time this thread gets bumped.
Because the absolute pure lack of blue tag after so many pages just proves the title right every time it rises from the ashes. I enjoy some of these responses. Betthy for instance made such a long winded speech to say "give kb/M raw input because we are just buying workarounds that give us aim assist as well as a superior aiming method" Only the dust community produces such heavy loads of horse ****.
Superior aiming method is kinda the only bullshit when talking about DUST. There are several installed inhibiting factors on mouse use in DUST 514 like there always has been... Starting with the fact that it isn't a "Mouse" Its a joystick emulation... so it's never been a true "Mouse" To have that superior control function Bullcrap you blame all your deaths on.
Mouse in DUST 514 isn't a MOUSE.... It's a joystick emulation... Keyboard isn't some magical "A" and "D" button that the DS3 doesn't have... They merely emulate the control input off the DS3. Like always.
The "Superior" Bullcrap is like claiming the Playstation Move is Superrior because you can pinpoint aim easier with a sniper rifle...
You sound as ignorant and silly as a majority of people on this forum... Why don't you go make more threads about nerfing and buffing things... Pretty much all you care about instead of core game mechanics and actually making DUST better.
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Black SlaverX
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
171
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:21:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I laugh every time this thread gets bumped.
Because the absolute pure lack of blue tag after so many pages just proves the title right every time it rises from the ashes. I enjoy some of these responses. Betthy for instance made such a long winded speech to say "give kb/M raw input because we are just buying workarounds that give us aim assist as well as a superior aiming method" Only the dust community produces such heavy loads of horse ****. Superior aiming method is kinda the only bullshit when talking about DUST. There are several installed inhibiting factors on mouse use in DUST 514 like there always has been... Starting with the fact that it isn't a "Mouse" Its a joystick emulation... so it's never been a true "Mouse" To have that superior control function Bullcrap you blame all your deaths on. Mouse in DUST 514 isn't a MOUSE.... It's a joystick emulation... Keyboard isn't some magical "A" and "D" button that the DS3 doesn't have... They merely emulate the control input off the DS3. Like always. The "Superior" Bullcrap is like claiming the Playstation Move is Superrior because you can pinpoint aim easier with a sniper rifle... You sound as ignorant and silly as a majority of people on this forum... Why don't you go make more threads about nerfing and buffing things... Pretty much all you care about instead of core game mechanics and actually making DUST better. underlined the lie for you.
it has never been stated that it is joystick emulation. If you plug in a mouse, you will also see that it isn't joystick emulation because there is absolutely no acceleration or deceleration with the mouse. Sure the sensitivity and some other factors are wonky, but it is infact using PRECISION not ACCELERATION.
You would also without a doubt notice that direction keys (WASD) are indeed digital, not analog. This means they are either full-go or full-stop. Once again, not an emulation. It is the #1 reason why flying a dropship with mouse/kb is a pain.
How about you stop making things up?
Watch your back because I might be there.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1838
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:24:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:Bethhy wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I laugh every time this thread gets bumped.
Because the absolute pure lack of blue tag after so many pages just proves the title right every time it rises from the ashes. I enjoy some of these responses. Betthy for instance made such a long winded speech to say "give kb/M raw input because we are just buying workarounds that give us aim assist as well as a superior aiming method" Only the dust community produces such heavy loads of horse ****. Superior aiming method is kinda the only bullshit when talking about DUST. There are several installed inhibiting factors on mouse use in DUST 514 like there always has been... Starting with the fact that it isn't a "Mouse" Its a joystick emulation... so it's never been a true "Mouse" To have that superior control function Bullcrap you blame all your deaths on. Mouse in DUST 514 isn't a MOUSE.... It's a joystick emulation... Keyboard isn't some magical "A" and "D" button that the DS3 doesn't have... They merely emulate the control input off the DS3. Like always. The "Superior" Bullcrap is like claiming the Playstation Move is Superrior because you can pinpoint aim easier with a sniper rifle... You sound as ignorant and silly as a majority of people on this forum... Why don't you go make more threads about nerfing and buffing things... Pretty much all you care about instead of core game mechanics and actually making DUST better. underlined the lie for you. it has never been stated that it is joystick emulation. If you plug in a mouse, you will also see that it isn't joystick emulation because there is absolutely no acceleration or deceleration with the mouse. Sure the sensitivity and some other factors are wonky, but it is infact using PRECISION not ACCELERATION. You would also without a doubt notice that direction keys (WASD) are indeed digital, not analog. This means they are either full-go or full-stop. Once again, not an emulation. It is the #1 reason why flying a dropship with mouse/kb is a pain. How about you stop making things up?
Uhh? There are what 20 emulators? that get rid of acceleration.. What are you on about?
There where several CCP posts in beta claiming that mouse support isn't raw input but an emulation...
This is accepted fact amoungst almost everyone...
Where have you been? |

BullsON Parade
YourCorp NameHere
41
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:32:00 -
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Sad, still no blue post, but to be honest, gd doesn't get much love from Blue.  |

M McManus
512
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:11:00 -
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In-áDust, a member of the kb/m community-áhas a name, his-áname-áis Project Legion! |

Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
3840
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:14:00 -
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Dark humor at its darkest.
Too soon, man. |

Beld Errmon
1628
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:15:00 -
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to all the console kiddies that slapped us with the stupid line "its a console game go back to your PC" well we are and you aren't suck a fat one enjoy your dead game.
Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
935
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:19:00 -
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LoL +1 for fight club reference!
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
581
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:20:00 -
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At his point I would be squealing with glee, and giggling at the silly anti-KB/M whiners who didn't see a PC port coming.
Problem is, this isn't a PC port of Dust, this is a new project.
A new project that has no guarantee of our existing characters being ported over to it.
This isn't what anyone wanted. |

Haerr
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
528
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:44:00 -
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M McManus wrote:In-áDust, a member of the kb/m community-áhas a name, his-áname-áis Project Legion!
+1
I <3 Legion
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J3f3r20n Gh057
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
138
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:55:00 -
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I'm glad they are making it... I sold my ps3 some months ago, and now i can play "Dust" again. \o/ |

McFurious
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
732
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:01:00 -
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Just woke up... Am I dreaming?
Dust is going to PC?
I'll be able to play it with a mouse that actually works?
No more snotty console twats telling me to STFU and use a controller?
Is this really happening?
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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Haerr
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
531
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:12:00 -
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It's all true.
Maybe we should console the console players by telling them that they might be able to use controllers? 
I <3 Legion
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McFurious
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
734
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:24:00 -
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Haerr wrote:It's all true. Maybe we should console the console players by telling them that they might be able to use controllers? 
**** that. Then they'll ***** and moan about wanting AA.
Instead I say: THIS IS PC NOT CONSOLE USE A MOUSE HAHAHAHAHA
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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Haerr
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
531
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:28:00 -
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McFurious wrote:Haerr wrote:It's all true. Maybe we should console the console players by telling them that they might be able to use controllers?  **** that. Then they'll ***** and moan about wanting AA. Instead I say: THIS IS PC NOT CONSOLE USE A MOUSE HAHAHAHAHA
  
I <3 Legion
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Blondie Roads
Introverts 4 Hire
53
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:46:00 -
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I take back my request for m/kb for dust. I will leave this game to the snot nosed teeny boppers to play. Enjoy your console game kids.     
Now... That out of the way.... Console kiddies >>>>> That way to CoD
 Real gamers >>>>>>>> This way to Legion
Lol Its a good day. |

Son Down
SamsClub
102
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Posted - 2014.05.02 21:59:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:to all the console kiddies that slapped us with the stupid line "its a console game go back to your PC" well we are and you aren't suck a fat one enjoy your dead game.
This should be sticky in GD, with twice the size of normal font. So good.......soooooo f'ing good. |

M McManus
514
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Posted - 2014.05.03 14:18:00 -
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J3f3r20n Gh057 wrote:I'm glad they are making it... I sold my ps3 some months ago, and now i can play "Dust" again. \o/
Just sold mine today, project legion here we come! |
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