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Jadd Hatchen
The Phoenix Federation
425
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:43:00 -
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Aythadis Smith wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Aythadis Smith wrote:I'd love to not have to fight selecting equipment greater then two. Single equipment is extremely hard with it near the side arm. Crysis used a similar selection system for the suit abilities, and I could chain them easily even while navigating through the environment. I think you just need more practice. Hit the middle mouse button, it selected the one next to it. 2 or 3 tries I can get it. Last build it was spot on. Maybe it is just me, but it feels harder.
Ok, since it was brought up here, I would like to make a challenge to all the devs that play this game.
YOU HEAR ME DEVS, THIS CHALLENGE IS FOR YOU!!!
1 - Create a logistics dropsuit that has at least 2+ equipment slots, but the more the better. 2 - Fill every equipment slot with something different. 3 - Enter a game. 4 - Ready equipment item #1. 5 - Ready equipment item #2. 6 - Repeat steps 4 and 5 over and over as fast as you can while running A STRAIGHT LINE at the same time!
Can't do it can you!
This is one of the most frustrating things about this stupid f*cking rotary menu interface bullsh*t that you guys keep fausting upon your players! Stop the abuse of Human to Machine Interface Design!
Seriously! you already have a button to swap between weapons in the interface, so why duplicate that sh*t on the rotary menu? So if you REMOVE the heavy, light, and sidearm weapons from the rotary menu, then you free up all that space! Similarly for the grenades carried. No need to have them on there as you have a button specifically allocated for them already! So all that's left to go onto the rotary EQUIPMENT menu is the EQUIPMENT! Since the most equipment someone might carry is like four items, this is easily put onto the menu as each item is at one full quarter of the rotary EQUIPMENT menu! So first item at 12 o'clock, second at 3 o'clock, third at 6 o'clock, and fourth at 9 o'clock.
DUN! Seriously freaking easy fix to an interface nightmare that has plagued this game since beta!
I hope someone out there in dev land really reads this. 8(
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2077
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:47:00 -
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Ulme Mees wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Haerr wrote:Why is this not fixed yet?
At the very least expose all relevant settings and options for mouse + keyboard so that we at least have a chance to configure it ourselves.
GIMX dude, get it. Got GIMX but it feels wierd to use, controls seems sluggish. Felt better with regular USB mouse and Keyboard. Any advice how to set GIMX up or what could I be doing wrong?
Ill pm you with Skype details so we can get in touch and chat. Did you calibrate your mouse?
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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VikingKong iBUN
Third Rock From The Sun
47
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:49:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:My shotgun can't hit ADADAD super strafers. Will try to get good. In the mean time, I'd say that's a pretty strong advantage. I have used KB/M and DS3 and can safely say that you do NOT strafe any faster using KB/M. You do turn faster with a mouse but that is the only difference in manoeuvrability, think of a new excuse please. |
VikingKong iBUN
Third Rock From The Sun
47
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:51:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:Aythadis Smith wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Aythadis Smith wrote:I'd love to not have to fight selecting equipment greater then two. Single equipment is extremely hard with it near the side arm. Crysis used a similar selection system for the suit abilities, and I could chain them easily even while navigating through the environment. I think you just need more practice. Hit the middle mouse button, it selected the one next to it. 2 or 3 tries I can get it. Last build it was spot on. Maybe it is just me, but it feels harder. Ok, since it was brought up here, I would like to make a challenge to all the devs that play this game. YOU HEAR ME DEVS, THIS CHALLENGE IS FOR YOU!!! 1 - Create a logistics dropsuit that has at least 2+ equipment slots, but the more the better. 2 - Fill every equipment slot with something different. 3 - Enter a game. 4 - Ready equipment item #1. 5 - Ready equipment item #2. 6 - Repeat steps 4 and 5 over and over as fast as you can while running A STRAIGHT LINE at the same time! Can't do it can you! This is one of the most frustrating things about this stupid f*cking rotary menu interface bullsh*t that you guys keep fausting upon your players! Stop the abuse of Human to Machine Interface Design! Seriously! you already have a button to swap between weapons in the interface, so why duplicate that sh*t on the rotary menu? So if you REMOVE the heavy, light, and sidearm weapons from the rotary menu, then you free up all that space! Similarly for the grenades carried. No need to have them on there as you have a button specifically allocated for them already! So all that's left to go onto the rotary EQUIPMENT menu is the EQUIPMENT! Since the most equipment someone might carry is like four items, this is easily put onto the menu as each item is at one full quarter of the rotary EQUIPMENT menu! So first item at 12 o'clock, second at 3 o'clock, third at 6 o'clock, and fourth at 9 o'clock. DUN! Seriously freaking easy fix to an interface nightmare that has plagued this game since beta! I hope someone out there in dev land really reads this. 8( I hope so too. |
Duke Noobiam
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:22:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:M McManus wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Time for me to have a rage at this
KBM is OP
You can't strafe/jump aim like rabbit on speed with controller.
You can do sh-ít with KBM that just can't be done with controller
If they do any improvements to the KBM it will be f++cking pointless to use controller.
.!. (-.-) .!. So why did controllers surpass kb/m in chromosome ? And after that KBM took over. Get over the "chromosome" and move forward. Why can't you ppl just pick up the dam controller that the game came with in the fist place? No so you go and buy some extra gear to get a advantage over others then you cry like a child that they are as good as you with that out of the box controller. ( Or I state competitive ) Al that money spent and no god mode, that can't be right can it? No STFU and pick up the controller. Most of us KBM people had our KBM sitting around in front of our PC's when we went out and got a PS3 to play Dust 514 on when they said they would have Native KBM support. A year later we still have Virtual Overlays, if they had said back then that they wouldnt use native KBM, i would not have bought a PS3 and would have stayed playing APB Reloaded on PC with my clan and kept rolling other so called KBM guys that play like they hold a DS3 on PC. But i got invested in Dust, so i am here to stay, i just want what had been promised to me. PS: There are about 7 other people in Dust that are on a competetive equal level with me, that i know use a DS3 and gone up against solo, teams that need 2 Tanks a couple of snipers and brickatnked slayers with logi support to keep me from tearing up their team of 6 are not considered to be equal even if they give me hard time.
So only the best 6-7 players with DS3 can perform as well as you with KBM yet you are here complaining that KBM needs to be improved...
KBM is still > DS3. Quit asking for god mode.
When the red river runs, take the dirt road.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2077
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:26:00 -
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Rei, solve the problem yourself by getting the GIMX already. CCP wont be able fix this until PS4/new game engine.
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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Duke Noobiam
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:35:00 -
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CCP have the stats and will take decisions accordingly. if they nerfed KB/M it's because their data was telling them it needed to happen.
Anecdotally, I've heard from a few players in the game that switching from DS3 to KB/M improved their KDR by a factor of 3 (on average). There's also a video on youtube where a scrub making his second video says he is trying KB/M for the first time and he is gushing about how much easier it is to aim and proceeds to get a KD/R well over 4 when in his previous video (using a DS3) it was something like .50 and the dude could not hit the side of a barn.
Anyway, as long as CCP is using empirical evidence (based on their data) to determine how to level the playing field I have no problem with their decisions.
When the red river runs, take the dirt road.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1006
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:41:00 -
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Duke Noobiam wrote:KBM is still > DS3. Quit asking for god mode.
Simple question: Do you actually use a KBM to play Dust?
If you believe the above, I will wager $1M ISK your answer is no.
Native KBM is nowhere near as good as DS3 in this game. Those are the facts. They are undisputed by those who have actualyl used and played with both.
Nobody is asking for "godmode". We are simply asking for controls that work and put us anywhere close to an even playing field with DS3 users. |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2077
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:45:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Duke Noobiam wrote:KBM is still > DS3. Quit asking for god mode.
Simple question: Do you actually use a KBM to play Dust? If you believe the above, I will wager $1M ISK your answer is no. Native KBM is nowhere near as good as DS3 in this game. Those are the facts. They are undisputed by those who have actualyl used and played with both. Nobody is asking for "godmode". We are simply asking for controls that work and put us anywhere close to an even playing field with DS3 users.
Framerate independent input is not possible in UE3.
Ccp have to revamp, not just the mouse input, but huge parts of the game engine to optimize framerate in order to make it work. Dont wait, use your money on GIMX hardware instead of paying CCP for boosters. Talk with your money.
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
73
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:53:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:
And after that KBM took over. Get over the "chromosome" and move forward.
Why can't you ppl just pick up the dam controller that the game came with in the fist place?
No so you go and buy some extra gear to get a advantage over others then you cry like a child that they are as good as you with that out of the box controller. ( Or I state competitive ) Al that money spent and no god mode, that can't be right can it?
No STFU and pick up the controller.
Controllers are FOTM. When I look at the history of controllers, the NES, the SNES, the Sega Genesis, the DreamCast, the N64, the PS1, the PS2, the PS3, the Xbox Original, Xbox 360, Xbox One......as times change so does the controller.
The Keyboard/mouse has stayed intact for decades. I was playing Quake with my KBM while you were still a resident for your fathers loins.
I am able to operate at a higher level than you. Not only do I dont need an Aim Assist, but I am able to coordinate my arms, writs and fingers in synchronization and harmony. You can operate both your thumbs. Congratulations. Thats like comparing the effort it takes to drive a go kart versus an F1 racer.
The thing is, Dust are the ones that took it upon themselves to offer KBM support. We didnt just come here with controllers and impose ourselves. We were invited.
All we ask for is fair treatment. We are being deliberately held back and our controls are sluggish on purpose so that people like you can go around with your Aim Assist and feel like you are worth something.
So if you want equality, how about instead you demand that Aim Assist be removed? Cause if you are going to have the PS3 do the aiming for you, the least we could get is the right to be fully incharge of our own aiming.
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
549
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:18:00 -
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Duke Noobiam wrote:CCP have the stats and will take decisions accordingly. if they nerfed KB/M it's because their data was telling them it needed to happen.
Anecdotally, I've heard from a few players in the game that switching from DS3 to KB/M improved their KDR by a factor of 3 (on average). There's also a video on youtube where a scrub making his second video says he is trying KB/M for the first time and he is gushing about how much easier it is to aim and proceeds to get a KD/R well over 4 when in his previous video (using a DS3) it was something like .50 and the dude could not hit the side of a barn.
Anyway, as long as CCP is using empirical evidence (based on their data) to determine how to level the playing field I have no problem with their decisions.
There's more to making game design decisions than data.
No control scheme should be artificially buffed or nerfed above another control scheme. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
923
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:03:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:
The thing is, Dust are the ones that took it upon themselves to offer KBM support. We didnt just come here with controllers and impose ourselves. We were invited.
All we ask for is fair treatment. We are being deliberately held back and our controls are sluggish on purpose so that people like you can go around with your Aim Assist and feel like you are worth something.
So if you want equality, how about instead you demand that Aim Assist be removed? Cause if you are going to have the PS3 do the aiming for you, the least we could get is the right to be fully incharge of our own aiming.
QFT
I've been screaming this at the highest mountain top but yet hard core DS3 users will still claim KB/M needs nerfed... Even after CCP's 1.4 patch destroyed KB/M and made controller superior by leaps and bounds via Aim Assist..
This isn't an aim assist argument, im simply saying controller users seem satisfied now with the Aim Assist and its more then enough for the average scrub to compete with Kb/M.. If anyone doesn't believe that just look at chromosome, when the DS3 and aim assist were completely ****** but yet DS3 users were and still are top of the leader board...
To the Naysayers, there was no reason to nerf the KB/M from chromosome even if the nerf was or wasn't intentional by CCP something with Uprising and 1.4 completely screwed the kb/m, floaty in-accurate sensitivity and what feels like an anti-aim assist while in CQC..
This needs fixed soon... (Although it's already been 8months now not sure why im even still trying)... |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2804
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:07:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:
And after that KBM took over. Get over the "chromosome" and move forward.
Why can't you ppl just pick up the dam controller that the game came with in the fist place?
No so you go and buy some extra gear to get a advantage over others then you cry like a child that they are as good as you with that out of the box controller. ( Or I state competitive ) Al that money spent and no god mode, that can't be right can it?
No STFU and pick up the controller.
Controllers are FOTM. When I look at the history of controllers, the NES, the SNES, the Sega Genesis, the DreamCast, the N64, the PS1, the PS2, the PS3, the Xbox Original, Xbox 360, Xbox One......as times change so does the controller. The Keyboard/mouse has stayed intact for decades. I was playing Quake with my KBM while you were still a resident for your fathers loins. I am able to operate at a higher level than you. Not only do I dont need an Aim Assist, but I am able to coordinate my arms, writs and fingers in synchronization and harmony. You can operate both your thumbs. Congratulations. Thats like comparing the effort it takes to drive a go kart versus an F1 racer. The thing is, Dust are the ones that took it upon themselves to offer KBM support. We didnt just come here with controllers and impose ourselves. We were invited. All we ask for is fair treatment. We are being deliberately held back and our controls are sluggish on purpose so that people like you can go around with your Aim Assist and feel like you are worth something. So if you want equality, how about instead you demand that Aim Assist be removed? Cause if you are going to have the PS3 do the aiming for you, the least we could get is the right to be fully incharge of our own aiming.
You know only the Nintendo systems tend to have a drastic redesign on their controllers between systems right I mean lets look at the PS controllers since thats the system we are on and youll see that for 20 YEARS (caps for emphasis) the controller has undergone very little change with the biggest being the addition of the analog sticks in the PS1 era
Also funny that you mention Quake since I remember Quake on the Dreamcast, that game offered raw input for the KBM you know and guess what happened, KBM ran rampant over controllers since mechanically for this genre its just inherently superior
Oh and the coordination comments you make are great, I mean lets take aiming with a mouse right, you get to use your entire arm to aim while the controller people get to use a little thumb stick with dead zones on it not to mention the face and shoulder buttons with the design of the controller meaning there are 8 buttons and two sticks I need to manipulate with just two fingers, two of my less dexterous ones in fact meaning I end up having to more button presses without getting to dedicate a digit to a single key for ease of use
Anyway if you didnt want to read all that which I suspect you wont so you can just scream some more that your power fantasy is crumbling around you because you died in a video game Ill just suggest that you seek some professional help for what is obviously an inferiority complex on your part and maybe a bit of a persecution complex as well
Sincerely a gamer with more than 2 decades on experience on both consoles and PC's who doesnt have his head up his ass and will readily admit the truth concerning advantages and disadvantages between control schemes
I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack!
In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
503
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:18:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Wall of text
Your argument is, and always will be invalid because DS3 has AutoAim.
TOLD514
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2804
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:25:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Wall of text
Your argument is, and always will be invalid because DS3 has AutoAim.
It has stickiness not literal auto aim and hell it has stickiness that doesnt even work right The day it was implemented I was thinking ok Ill try this out and see how it is but in typical CCP fashion it tries to stick to a target 40 meters behind who Im shooting at and after that it was turned off and stayed off And lets be real for a minute, how many players in any game do you know turn that stuff off because anything that might slightly interfere with aiming is a bad thing that should be prevented
Inb4 herp derp then kbm aiming stuff should be prevented KBM support should just be removed from the game for a myriad of reasons people already brought up and if some of the guys who use a kbm set up are as superior as they say and auto aiming swings things so much in the controllers favor then they should have no problem adapting and wrecking After all it is easier right?
I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack!
In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
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Jadd Hatchen
The Phoenix Federation
429
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:30:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:
And after that KBM took over. Get over the "chromosome" and move forward.
Why can't you ppl just pick up the dam controller that the game came with in the fist place?
No so you go and buy some extra gear to get a advantage over others then you cry like a child that they are as good as you with that out of the box controller. ( Or I state competitive ) Al that money spent and no god mode, that can't be right can it?
No STFU and pick up the controller.
Controllers are FOTM. When I look at the history of controllers, the NES, the SNES, the Sega Genesis, the DreamCast, the N64, the PS1, the PS2, the PS3, the Xbox Original, Xbox 360, Xbox One......as times change so does the controller. The Keyboard/mouse has stayed intact for decades. I was playing Quake with my KBM while you were still a resident for your fathers loins. I am able to operate at a higher level than you. Not only do I dont need an Aim Assist, but I am able to coordinate my arms, writs and fingers in synchronization and harmony. You can operate both your thumbs. Congratulations. Thats like comparing the effort it takes to drive a go kart versus an F1 racer. The thing is, Dust are the ones that took it upon themselves to offer KBM support. We didnt just come here with controllers and impose ourselves. We were invited. All we ask for is fair treatment. We are being deliberately held back and our controls are sluggish on purpose so that people like you can go around with your Aim Assist and feel like you are worth something. So if you want equality, how about instead you demand that Aim Assist be removed? Cause if you are going to have the PS3 do the aiming for you, the least we could get is the right to be fully incharge of our own aiming. You know only the Nintendo systems tend to have a drastic redesign on their controllers between systems right I mean lets look at the PS controllers since thats the system we are on and youll see that for 20 YEARS (caps for emphasis) the controller has undergone very little change with the biggest being the addition of the analog sticks in the PS1 era Also funny that you mention Quake since I remember Quake on the Dreamcast, that game offered raw input for the KBM you know and guess what happened, KBM ran rampant over controllers since mechanically for this genre its just inherently superior Oh and the coordination comments you make are great, I mean lets take aiming with a mouse right, you get to use your entire arm to aim while the controller people get to use a little thumb stick with dead zones on it not to mention the face and shoulder buttons with the design of the controller meaning there are 8 buttons and two sticks I need to manipulate with just two fingers, two of my less dexterous ones in fact meaning I end up having to more button presses without getting to dedicate a digit to a single key for ease of use Anyway if you didnt want to read all that which I suspect you wont so you can just scream some more that your power fantasy is crumbling around you because you died in a video game Ill just suggest that you seek some professional help for what is obviously an inferiority complex on your part and maybe a bit of a persecution complex as well Sincerely a gamer with more than 2 decades on experience on both consoles and PC's who doesnt have his head up his ass and will readily admit the truth concerning advantages and disadvantages between control schemes
You both are forgetting the biggest argument of them all...
What if I had a physical disability in my hands that prevented me from using my thumbs as needed to take full advantage of the DS3 controller design? So I'm forced to play on KBM only. Now what? I should suffer because I'm disabled? CCP promised me a game that would provide KBM capability. Ok, so it's sucks ass right now, but they did fulfill their promise. But if they don't fix it, it is just another example of them coming up with a good idea and never finishing it like they do with so many things in all their games.
On the other hand, let's say that I'm not physically handicapped, but I am an ADULT with ADULT sized hands. This means that the controllers (no matter which design you've mentioned above) are ALL made for CHILDREN'S HANDS! So they've built in a physical handicap for anyone who is fully grown. This is stupid on the game console designer's part but the solution is to allow for KBM. But then as before, they only implemented it and didn't fully implement it.
In the end, CCP just needs to finish supporting the options that they said they would. If they would just fix this one thing finally, then they could take it off their plate and concentrate more on the rest of the broken sh*t in this game.
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
503
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:33:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:if some of the guys who use a kbm set up are as superior as they say and auto aiming swings things so much in the controllers favor then they should have no problem adapting and wrecking After all it is easier right? What is muscle memory? What is preferred control scheme? What is promised and advertized product feature?
TOLD514
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alten hilt
DUST University Ivy League
137
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:49:00 -
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Yay! Resurrected thread!
I gave up on Dust initially because it did not have KB/M (because I suck with controller, and the game was generally very bad back in those early closed beta days)
Then someone in EVE told me they added Kb/M support and I came back. It was bad, but at least it wasn't as bad, so I stuck around for a while and eventually learned to accommodate the horrible Kb/M input.
Took a break for real life stuff and when I came back, Kb/M was completely broken. Spent days tweaking the settings on my mouse and PS3 and DUST to no avail. The following are some of my observations
--Step values are too large, small movements of the mouse equate to large, choppy movements on the screen --No 1:1 input --very low "top" sensitivity (for both DS3 and mouse) --reverse acceleration (wherin the faster you move the mouse past some arbitrary value, the slower the movement) --Mouse smoothing option is just a "reduce-my-sensitivity-to-ridiculously-low-levels option" --no customizable controls (who in their right mind would assign the equipment wheel to caps lock and the player screen to tab?) --constant input camera for dropships and lavs (at least let me toggle this off so I'm not constantly fighting the camera just to look around)
Kb/M brought me to DUST, but in the end, it might just drive me away. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1008
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:30:00 -
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Let me make it simple...
On a PC, on most FPS games, I have a kdr in the 5+ range using MKB.
In Dust, I have a kdr of 1.6 using MKB.
So either the FPS players are better on this game than on a PC, or there's an issue with MKB support.
It's clearly the latter.
And when every single person in my position says the same thing, it's beyond any reasonable doubt that there's an issue with MKB support.
I don't want "godmode", I just want to be able to do simple things, like pull out the right piece of equipment, or track enemies strafing.
Now, I've HTFU, and I've adapted -- I play more of a coordinator and squad lead rather than on the front lines slaying -- but I really shouldn't have to.
I've tried the Eagle Eye, I've tried the Frag FX, the only thing I've not tried is a GIMX (it might be next).
As was said above, KBM brought me to Dust, but it might just drive me away. |
DootDoot
Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION
331
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:39:00 -
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Not being able to use controls or the control interface of a game...
Is enoguh of a core mechanic Issue to make any player quit the title and never look at it again.
No matter how long they have played EVE and been with CCP.
Alot of people actually went out to buy a PS3 to play DUST 514 because of the Mouse and Keyboard Support DUST had in Chromosome.
Mouse and Keyboard right now is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad. |
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Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
293
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:41:00 -
[381] - Quote
... because no-one likes them.
Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
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Black SlaverX
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:45:00 -
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Keyboard and mouse has cost dust more users in the first year than it will ever bring in over Dust lifetime. Any time someone who uses a console finds out that they will be playing against KB/M with their controller, they shy away. Dust is no different.
Watch your back because I might be there.
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Michael-J-Fox Richards
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
166
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:46:00 -
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keyboards and mouses are gay, they shouldnt even be on here, they are lucky to get what they got, ungrateful is what they is
i fought in WW2, viet nam and in near future wars involving robots all in one lifetime just like MGS and COD characters!
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Jebus McKing
329
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:01:00 -
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M/KB > DS3??! ... loooooooool
I gave up on M/KB after they gave DS3 aim assist. Now I' m mowing down people with DS3 + AA like a scrub because it is **** easy and I don't care enough for this game anymore.
@JebusMcKing // TIERICIDE, just do it, CCP.
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
549
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:08:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:keyboards and mouses are gay, they shouldnt even be on here, they are lucky to get what they got, ungrateful is what they is
How are they gay? And how is being gay bad?
Thanks for your valuable input either way, in response I can say that the future of this game is cross platform, and the probability of a PC port will be very high once the PS4 port comes. And what will you do then? Tell the PC users to get a dualshock?
We're grateful for the feature, as it lets us experience the game in a way we're comfortable/proficient with, but we'd like the issues to get fixed. And some of the changes we're proposing regarding custom mapping, configurable acceleration curves, and disabling input delay will also greatly benefit the dual-shock.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1673
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:12:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:Keyboard and mouse has cost dust more users in the first year than it will ever bring in over Dust lifetime. Any time someone who uses a console finds out that they will be playing against KB/M with their controller, they shy away. Dust is no different.
Except your full of ****.
DUST with Proper Mouse and Keyboard support... 15k player peaks. And EVE players actually excited about the game.
DUST with Terrible Mouse and Keyboard Support 4-5k player peaks. EVE players Want the DUST 514 project cancelled.
Your just another un-informed internet troll... Bet you scream "F*ing M?KB users!" everytime you die too.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:31:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:keyboards and mouses are gay, they shouldnt even be on here, they are lucky to get what they got, ungrateful is what they is Not nice.
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Black SlaverX
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:45:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Black SlaverX wrote:Keyboard and mouse has cost dust more users in the first year than it will ever bring in over Dust lifetime. Any time someone who uses a console finds out that they will be playing against KB/M with their controller, they shy away. Dust is no different. Except your full of ****. DUST with Proper Mouse and Keyboard support... 15k player peaks. And EVE players actually excited about the game. DUST with Terrible Mouse and Keyboard Support 4-5k player peaks. EVE players Want the DUST 514 project cancelled. Your just another un-informed internet troll... Bet you scream "F*ing M?KB users!" everytime you die too.
Nope, you are just incredibly stupid.
Dust, first launch... 15k.
Dust after console players say f-ck playing with kb/m players.. 3k.
Eve players have always, always wanted dust canceled.
God you are dumb.
Watch your back because I might be there.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1675
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:54:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:Bethhy wrote:Black SlaverX wrote:Keyboard and mouse has cost dust more users in the first year than it will ever bring in over Dust lifetime. Any time someone who uses a console finds out that they will be playing against KB/M with their controller, they shy away. Dust is no different. Except your full of ****. DUST with Proper Mouse and Keyboard support... 15k player peaks. And EVE players actually excited about the game. DUST with Terrible Mouse and Keyboard Support 4-5k player peaks. EVE players Want the DUST 514 project cancelled. Your just another un-informed internet troll... Bet you scream "F*ing M?KB users!" everytime you die too. Nope, you are just incredibly stupid. Dust, first launch... 15k. Dust after console players say f-ck playing with kb/m players.. 3k. Eve players have always, always wanted dust canceled. God you are dumb.
Yup extremely un informed and very ignorant you are.
Uprising Launch = Worst KB/M support in DUST's history... Check the mass exodus of players.... The console fanboys went no where...
The people with a nice PC and other gaming options that didn't need a free game on the console? Left. That playstation 3 was only a few hundred dollars... Alot of players own Mouses that are 150-200bux... Was an easy write off. Not for someone who lives on their playstation however...
I Have been playing EVE for a since 2003... We actually planned for DUST 514 and EVE players to play it When it was announced... In 3 different alliances I was apart of. EVERYONE was excited... You merely have to check that years fanfest results that led CCP to even make the game.
After terrible peripheral control in Uprising launch... Holding consistent Active EVE players playing DUST was near impossible.
You can see this With many of the EVE entities that have Sub corps for DUST. Their EVE players stopped playing DUST. PC players in General have stopped playing DUST. It's got a terrible control interface... Whos to blame them?
1.4 marked Aim assist... And that patch dropped players significantly even more... Its taken us 8 months to even recover that player base we lost from it....
Your just another forum troll that talks out of his ass.
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Black SlaverX
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:12:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Black SlaverX wrote:Bethhy wrote:Black SlaverX wrote:Keyboard and mouse has cost dust more users in the first year than it will ever bring in over Dust lifetime. Any time someone who uses a console finds out that they will be playing against KB/M with their controller, they shy away. Dust is no different. Except your full of ****. DUST with Proper Mouse and Keyboard support... 15k player peaks. And EVE players actually excited about the game. DUST with Terrible Mouse and Keyboard Support 4-5k player peaks. EVE players Want the DUST 514 project cancelled. Your just another un-informed internet troll... Bet you scream "F*ing M?KB users!" everytime you die too. Nope, you are just incredibly stupid. Dust, first launch... 15k. Dust after console players say f-ck playing with kb/m players.. 3k. Eve players have always, always wanted dust canceled. God you are dumb. Yup extremely un informed and very ignorant you are. Uprising Launch = Worst KB/M support in DUST's history... Check the mass exodus of players.... The console fanboys went no where... The people with a nice PC and other gaming options that didn't need a free game on the console? Left. That playstation 3 was only a few hundred dollars... Alot of players own Mouses that are 150-200bux... Was an easy write off. Not for someone who lives on their playstation however... I Have been playing EVE since 2003... We actually planned for DUST 514 and EVE players to play it When it was announced... In 3 different alliances I was apart of. EVERYONE was excited... You merely have to check that years fanfest results that led CCP to even make the game. After terrible peripheral control in Uprising launch... Holding consistent Active EVE players playing DUST was near impossible. You can see this With many of the EVE entities that have Sub corps for DUST. Their EVE players stopped playing DUST. PC players in General have stopped playing DUST. It's got a terrible control interface... Whos to blame them? 1.4 marked Aim assist... And that patch dropped players significantly even more... Its taken us 8 months to even recover that player base we lost from it.... Your just another forum troll that talks out of his ass.
You are so full of crap.
1) never, ever has the eve community been happy about dust. As soon as it was announced for PS3 exclusive, they entire community thumbed it's collective nose at it.
2) There was absolutely no player drop from 1.4.
3) Uprising was an absolute mess, nobody gives a **** about mouse/kb support except for a few faggots on the forums, like you. Hmm... I wonder why they same neckbeards who want an unfair KB/M advantage on a console are the same neckbeards on the forums?
I love how you try to twist it like even 1% of the playerbase gives a crap about mouse/kb. They don't. You know why they leave? Because asshats like you can't even think about joining a game without all of your girlfriends in protogear and stomping the hell out of the game. You are the cancer that is killing dust, well you and skotty.
You are just another tryhard who derives all of their own self-worth from how good they are at (oh I mean how much they can exploit) a video game. For shame.
Watch your back because I might be there.
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