Its amazing how much the "get rid of KB/M" crowd resemble a bunch of racist tea party hicks bleating "they took our jobs"

Rejoice KB/M users CCP won't over look the rabid and obnoxious bleatings of these scumbags, they'll fix the mouse just to spite them.

Lol. You know, when someone tries to use age as a reference in these forums it usually to mask their own age.

Alright, so lets all get on the same page here. Beeeees, not trying to phase out KB/M users. Just don't want them having normal PC input (you know, cause we aren't on a PC). You say KB/M users don't want raw input?

Well apparently your buddy Paran Tadec disagrees with you.

Beeeees, it is not that I want no KB/M, it's that I don't think KB/M users would be satisfied with a control scheme until it was far superior to the DS3, not because KB/M users are @ssholes, but because there is an expected way a KB/M operates, and in my opinion this cannot be reached without putting the DS3 at a disadvantage, and seeing as how this is a PS3 game, that would not be a prudent move by CCP.

As for you Paran Tadec, I highly doubt CCP included KB/M support because they didn't put the game on PC. I would imagine it was due to the fact that almost nobody on the planet knew Dust was even coming, aside from Eve players, and they hoped to gain more players by including KB/M. I don't know what "kiddies" you are referring to, but maybe you need to switch corps if you don't like the age group of your current one. You can't hear the enemy, and if you are in squad or corp chat you can't hear randoms. I would also suggest actually reading the thread, since there are plenty of reasons for lack of KB/M support in the community beyond "dis iz consul". Also, i'm not sure if you are aware, but you spelled those 3 words wrong.

You liked Chromosome times better? That's to bad cause that time has passed. I would suggest injecting a bit more intelligence into your posts. You are a representative of the KB/M side of this debate, and you just made your side look that much stupider.

I don't know it seems like CCP has already given in to the masses because it was damn near perfect during Chromosome and like others have said there was nowhere near this amount of push back from DS3 users during chromosome and for some reason CCP handicapped the KB/M...

The real sad thing is the DS3 users complaining about kb/m throughout Uprising can be in no way legitimate complaints and for a DS3 user to complain about kb/m being OP in its current state or even vs raw input while DS3 users are running around with aim assist, that person has got to be the most scrub player out there...

You are correct about strafe speed (same).
But directional change is substantially different between DS3 and KB/M.
Don't be mad at me for pointing this out. Its a fact, dudebro.
What may be a miniscule difference at range is magnified up close.

Rerun your test up close, preferably in the Research Facility.
Make sure everyone's firing their guns (this summons the pellet phantom).
See how often that Shotgunner misses. While in his optimal (and only) range.
Spoiler: I don't have to run this test to know the outcome ... already have 100 times.

I don't know it seems like CCP has already given in to the masses because it was damn near perfect during Chromosome and like others have said there was nowhere near this amount of push back from DS3 users during chromosome and for some reason CCP handicapped the KB/M...

The real sad thing is the DS3 users complaining about kb/m throughout Uprising can be in no way legitimate complaints and for a DS3 user to complain about kb/m being OP in its current state or even vs raw input while DS3 users are running around with aim assist, that person has got to be the most scrub player out there...

Current KBM is fine, but only if you remove aim assist for DS3.

How exactly would raw input make KBM superior when DS3 has AIM ASSIST? No one has answered that yet, because they need their crutches. I use KBM because it is more comfortable for me to use when playing at a desk (ps3 next to pc).I can pickup a DS3 and get a higher KDR due to aim assist vs. KBM, but again, its not comfortable. All KBM users want is for there to be no DS3 emulation trash over the mouse, as I nearly quit the first day of uprising due to it.

Secondly, KBM support wasn't in the original closed beta, but came in several months later. CCP had promised support for it earlier because the game was originally slated for PC and consoles, but then became a PS3 exclusive.

Third, the kiddies I refer to are kids like Techmeds. And the misspelling is mocking him. I'm quite shocked you didn't get that.

So, from the discussion and my own meditation, here are the issues with KB/M right now.

- Mouse acceleration cannot be turned off or modified
- Trouble with mouse tracking, reason unknown, but may be related to:
- Trouble with sniping, fine input control appears to be ignored, there is a minimum amount of input required before your sights react, causing you to sweep across your targets.
- Unergonomic keybindings. X for grenades is terrible, makes you a sitting duck. We need the ability to change button functions for KB/M *AND* DS3
- Squad lead menus flakey, hard to set objective type.

Feel free to add to the list, I'll take it and post a new thread in the Feedback forum.

I am afraid CCP has done exactly what they wanted to do with the KB/M in dust, artificially limit a users ability to shoot with it, these fine aim issues are a deliberate result of their emulator, when they first brought this in they over did it and everyone noticed the anti-aim assist, they claimed it was a bug and they toned it down but any logical person can see they are being dishonest.

The problem could be easily fixed by taking the mouse controls back to chromosome, but they won't and they don't even have the balls to come out and say it, I'd call them liars but that would require them to actually address the subject, they won't, they will lie by omission and salve their conscience by telling themselves they are balancing their game.

Or its quite smart, look though the thread and look at the likes the rattle users get for saying re-tarded catch phrases like "console game go back to playing PC FPS"

Simple fact is they are pandering to the masses and blowing kisses at the minority, gunna be a rude shock when the rattle users wake up and realise their consoles are being turned into PCs and they will be facing off against uninhibited KB/M users in nearly every game that can support it.