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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.12 07:44:00 -
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I, too, would love some guidance from a DEV on what's on the horizon for kbm.
Again, I'd like to see separate sensitivity settings for hipfire and ads.
I'd also like to see custom keybinding.
But really, I just want to know some mods are coming.
I love Dust, but as a kbm user it's tough to be handicapped and simply not able to compete.
I recognize the need to balance DS3 and kbm, but think the pendulum has swung too far to the DS3 side of the equation.
Please help CCP. |
rpastry
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
64
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:35:00 -
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^^ |
Snaps Tremor
DUST University Ivy League
368
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:29:00 -
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Biggest, dumbest problem with mouse and keys right now is every single movement and stance arbitrarily screws with the sensitivity, making muscle memory an impossible goal. Crouching, running, strafing, aiming, coughing, and rubbing your eyes all come with their own bespoke modifiers to turn speed which is completely useless for a control method that relies on relative movement. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
904
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:39:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:Biggest, dumbest problem with mouse and keys right now is every single movement and stance arbitrarily screws with the sensitivity, making muscle memory an impossible goal. Crouching, running, strafing, aiming, coughing, and rubbing your eyes all come with their own bespoke modifiers to turn speed which is completely useless for a control method that relies on relative movement.
Yeah its why my muscle memory has been in such a dissaray over the 10 months ive been playing this game, also in other shooters all targets move & strafe at the same speed or at least they have the same speed in their class.
In dust with all the suit configurations, coupled to your own speed etc etc etc speed is not set, so more word for muscle memory to get it wrong.
With the faster TTK's we now have and being able to do Dragshots and quickscoped, headhits (just scope for the head a fraction of a second to land allot of headshots, let go of the scope and finish with bodyshots, then dragshot the next person), i can mostly take out my targets before i need to re-adjust my aim, so for me personally 1.6 works in my favor, by allot.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
652
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:05:00 -
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Damn people bumping this like crazy and still nothing.. hmmm, would kind of be nice to know if a fix is coming in 1.7 |
Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
25
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:26:00 -
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For all the adults playing DUST 514 with the stock PS3 controllers... You must have some of the smallest hands in existence! The reason I use the KBM is because the controllers are designed for little kids' hands! If CCP were to market adult sized controllers, then I would purchase and use one. But until then, I use KBM because I have larger hands.
Second, using a controller means only being able to press two button simultaneously at any given time. Really it does! Try pressing 3 different buttons at the same time on a controller... They all stop working! Whereas on a KBM you can press 3 or more keys at the same time and they still work and do what you want it to do!
I have to say that after the AA fix I'm getting owned in the "fast-draw" areas where I used to win. AA does seem to make the controllers way better than KBM. But more importantly, AA now screws with my KBM controls (occasionally causes my aim to go to random places), when it didn't before. Seriously, just have ONE setting in the options that switches between KBM and controller and also toggles the AA and the tooltips all at the same time. Not like 3 separate things in 3 places.
Please, please please God oh God PLEASE! Let the KBM be remapped! Right now you have "throw grenade" right next to "Push To Talk" on the KBM and both are in a spot that is freakishly difficult to use while playing. This causes me to "throw grenade" when I try to talk to teammates. I go to tell a squadmate to lookout behind him and instead throw a grenade at him? This is stupid!
The sensitivity keeps changing when zoomed in on things. I don't know what you did, but it's become more (not less) difficult to maintain a bead on a target. It's almost to the point of trying to "guess" when to fire to hit a target and no skill is involved anymore. Fix this please.
CCP this thread (while not yet at thread-naught proportions) is also one of the longest threads on here. That is for a reason. KBM controls need some attention please.
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
2294
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:00:00 -
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Bump for justice.
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
242
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:59:00 -
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Hey CCP are you seriously not responding to threads anymore or is there some kind of secret section of the forums I need to visit to see dev interaction. . ? |
Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
449
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:11:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:For all the adults playing DUST 514 with the stock PS3 controllers... You must have some of the smallest hands in existence! The reason I use the KBM is because the controllers are designed for little kids' hands! If CCP were to market adult sized controllers, then I would purchase and use one. But until then, I use KBM because I have larger hands.
Second, using a controller means only being able to press two button simultaneously at any given time. Really it does! Try pressing 3 different buttons at the same time on a controller... They all stop working! Whereas on a KBM you can press 3 or more keys at the same time and they still work and do what you want it to do!
I have to say that after the AA fix I'm getting owned in the "fast-draw" areas where I used to win. AA does seem to make the controllers way better than KBM. But more importantly, AA now screws with my KBM controls (occasionally causes my aim to go to random places), when it didn't before. Seriously, just have ONE setting in the options that switches between KBM and controller and also toggles the AA and the tooltips all at the same time. Not like 3 separate things in 3 places.
Please, please please God oh God PLEASE! Let the KBM be remapped! Right now you have "throw grenade" right next to "Push To Talk" on the KBM and both are in a spot that is freakishly difficult to use while playing. This causes me to "throw grenade" when I try to talk to teammates. I go to tell a squadmate to lookout behind him and instead throw a grenade at him? This is stupid!
The sensitivity keeps changing when zoomed in on things. I don't know what you did, but it's become more (not less) difficult to maintain a bead on a target. It's almost to the point of trying to "guess" when to fire to hit a target and no skill is involved anymore. Fix this please.
CCP this thread (while not yet at thread-naught proportions) is also one of the longest threads on here. That is for a reason. KBM controls need some attention please.
Get a DS4 -they are out now and work with PS3's though you have to be wired. |
IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
88
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:45:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Hey CCP are you seriously not responding to threads anymore or is there some kind of secret section of the forums I need to visit to see dev interaction. . ?
They respond to threads just not any with "KB/M" issues
I Support SP Rollover
Why is KB/M being ignored
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ZiwZih
Seraphim Initiative..
265
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:15:00 -
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Bump, as there is not much to add to discussion.
@Jadd you can throw granade at G beside X if that helps.
ZEN 514
Novi Eden na na+íem jeziku GÇö eveonline.rs
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
284
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:15:00 -
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Dont worry about it, CCP and CPM are more concerned about battle elephants then they are real issues ... |
Funkmaster Whale
Fatal Absolution
1212
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:24:00 -
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Bumping this thread in hopes CCP gives us some sort of Info in one of these fn threads.
Let me play you the song of my people!
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
287
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Posted - 2013.11.26 12:57:00 -
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Maybe we'll get a ninja fix and CCP just doesn't want to announce it becuase they know it will give the DS3 kids a reason to start yelling OP...
Fingers crossed |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.26 13:58:00 -
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Considering the number of threads on this, and the length of which they go on, I can surmise that there is a gag order in place on this subject. |
DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:15:00 -
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Buttercup Chipmint wrote:True balance will never be achieved between DS3 and KB/M so CCP has to at least get one correct. This being a console FPS on a PS3 he DS3 will always win do to the massive QQ CCP will get if they can not at least have the DS3 working 100%. I would get rid of KB/M support all together, if you want to play a FPS using a KB/M then go play a PC FPS. I have been using a mouse on console shooters for almost a decade now. IMO, in game support is far more balanced than me getting a XIM & taking advantage of DS3 aim assist with fully customizable controls. In game support will not stop us & never has. It's not perfect, but it's still better than a DS3 for me. |
Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
26
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:41:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Because this is a console game.
Sorry, maybe you forgot? There we go again ..... the PS3 supports KB/M, right ? So.... Dust 514 is a Console game that SUPPORTS KB/M ...... You know what... in tired of repeating the same thing over and over again... is like talking to Donkeys...actually, no.. I'm sure Donkeys are far more receptive ... Monkeys ... that is it. No, just you seem to not realize the simple fact that KB/M isn't built to be anywhere near fair to DS3. Theres a reason things like full 360's can be done with a flick of the wrist with a Mouse but not a controller. There's a reason NO other console game was ******** enough to think the KB/M wasn't going to be better in every way then DS3. Yet, you feel like it is too much for you to swap the KB/M with the one thing that EVERYBODY gets when they buy a PS3?
Its way easier to get kills with the controller but I still prefer keyboard because that's what I am used to using. I actually used a controller once someone made a comment a long time ago saying keyboard is god mode so I used a controller and racked up even more kills than when I used a mouse...amazing how that works isn't it? Funny thing is I use a shotgun, knife, and sniper rifle. Another little fact people whom never used a keyboard would know is part of the sensitivity was broken in the previous patch, it would be like you not being able to adjust your sensitivity at certain points. There are other "console" games that support keyboard and mouse, this isn't the only one. Its been around longer than you think if you don't believe it. But yeah keyboard users have so much of an advantage (sarcasm). I would love to hear some of the people that constantly complain about keyboards actually use one and see how it really is.
For the Principality of Zeon!
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
293
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:51:00 -
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The real story of how ****** up kb/m is, thanks CCP I'm not holding my breath for 1.7.... |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2664
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:58:00 -
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M McManus wrote:All m/kb users who are unhappy with the current controls and sensitivity should let their voice be heard.. File a support ticket, create threads, raise hell till we get a response/acknowledgement from Devs..
- The aim and control sticky in the feedback section has now been removed
- Even after multiple kb/m users expresed their concerns with the current mouse emulation vs DS3 aim assist there was never a response from a Dev..
- Friends of mine who use kb/m and myself have posted support tickets and they refer us to post on the forums. .
- The small minority of vocal mouse users who make threads have half trolls and half users struggling with the following..
Wobbling ADS Inaccurate hip fire slides left and right Acceleration to slow on some mouse types
Now before the DS3 users get on here and say htfu its a console use a controller gtfo tryhard etc When the DS3 was slow and ****** up in chromosome and pre 1.4 you guys were pissed and extremly vocal about it... Now put yourself in our shoes you're still unable to track tagets the controls have a mind of there own and you're constantly going up against other players that get aim assist and you have pre 1.4 controls. .
Meh. This is a PS3 game, i dont really care for KBM EZ moders ,,,,
Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
303
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Posted - 2013.12.03 15:03:00 -
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While the blutags are out why don't we get one here ? |
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1261
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Posted - 2013.12.03 15:10:00 -
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M McManus wrote:While the blutags are out why don't we get one here ?
Because for them its all fixed or something like that....
Quote:Meh. This is a PS3 game, i dont really care for KBM EZ moders ,,,,
KBM scrubs are as much scrubs as are DS3 scrubs, there is very little diffrence...both cant aim a damn...
If KBM is easy mode, plug one in and instantly run 70/0's all evening, guess not eh ....
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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Blondie Roads
Introverts 4 Hire
30
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Posted - 2013.12.03 15:15:00 -
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I voted with my wallet and play time... CCP will not see anymore of either from me until they fix mouse controlls to Chromozone or better. I suggest you all do the same. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
945
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Posted - 2013.12.03 15:16:00 -
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because they're asking for an advantage over ds3 users. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
669
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:05:00 -
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low genius wrote:because they're asking for an advantage over ds3 users.
Oh yeah cool story please tell me how aim assist isn't a advantage against kb/m users ?
If you remember before aim assist you DS3 "pros" were QQing hard for that advantage. ... |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
669
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:09:00 -
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Blondie Roads wrote:I voted with my wallet and play time... CCP will not see anymore of either from me until they fix mouse controlls to Chromozone or better. I suggest you all do the same.
Ditto, and 1.7 will be what the 7th month CCP continues to give us no response ? If there is no fix as well my wallet is staying closed regardless of any promotion... |
IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
90
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:31:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Blondie Roads wrote:I voted with my wallet and play time... CCP will not see anymore of either from me until they fix mouse controlls to Chromozone or better. I suggest you all do the same. Ditto, and 1.7 will be what the 7th month CCP continues to give us no response ? If there is no fix as well my wallet is staying closed regardless of any promotion...
not spent anything on Dust in months either the potential of dust got me spending in the first place, also would keep me spending but the lack of response on any of the mouse threads has destroyed my confidence that CCP intend to fix this issue
without seeing a fix in 1.7 or atleast a response that they know this is an issue then im out, im fed up of playing with pad hate to use them
I Support SP Rollover
Why is KB/M being ignored
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Blondie Roads
Introverts 4 Hire
34
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:24:00 -
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Would be nice to know whether ccp is even considering looking at m/kb controlls. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
725
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:35:00 -
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Have to agree kb/m controlls are still **** I've submitted support ticket after support ticket and every time they respond like they don't know the problem exists... There have got to be CCP devs that play shooters with the kb/m and try this and think how inaccurate and unresponsive it is...
Funny thing is there are still players out there who think kb/m is the reason they get destroyed idk how man hate mails I've gotten saying I'm hacking because I use kb/m... News flash kb/m is garbage and I personally haven't used it since the release of uprising. . |
Lonegnr
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:50:00 -
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Some of the pages in this thread are pretty funny. On topic, all I know is that when I briefly (before I discovered you can't rebind keys) plugged in a mouse it suddenly started acting like a broken mechanical mouse, which is ridiculous compared to DS3's autoaim. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
140
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:55:00 -
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FWIW, and at the suggestion of some in this thread, I got a fragfx and retired my mouse and keyboard.
I'm fairly happy with it, and I haven't had a chance to try the 1.7 controls with my old mouse yet -- but from what I'm reading there's still work to be done with it. |
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