DUST Search - Why are kb/m Users being ignored ?

Black SlaverX wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

Black SlaverX wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

Black SlaverX wrote:

Keyboard and mouse has cost dust more users in the first year than it will ever bring in over Dust lifetime. Any time someone who uses a console finds out that they will be playing against KB/M with their controller, they shy away. Dust is no different.

Except your full of ****.

DUST with Proper Mouse and Keyboard support... 15k player peaks. And EVE players actually excited about the game.

DUST with Terrible Mouse and Keyboard Support 4-5k player peaks. EVE players Want the DUST 514 project cancelled.

Your just another un-informed internet troll... Bet you scream "F*ing M?KB users!" everytime you die too.

Nope, you are just incredibly stupid.

Dust, first launch... 15k.

Dust after console players say f-ck playing with kb/m players.. 3k.

Eve players have always, always wanted dust canceled.

God you are dumb.

Yup extremely un informed and very ignorant you are.

Uprising Launch = Worst KB/M support in DUST's history... Check the mass exodus of players.... The console fanboys went no where...

The people with a nice PC and other gaming options that didn't need a free game on the console? Left. That playstation 3 was only a few hundred dollars... Alot of players own Mouses that are 150-200bux... Was an easy write off. Not for someone who lives on their playstation however...

I Have been playing EVE since 2003... We actually planned for DUST 514 and EVE players to play it When it was announced... In 3 different alliances I was apart of. EVERYONE was excited... You merely have to check that years fanfest results that led CCP to even make the game.

After terrible peripheral control in Uprising launch... Holding consistent Active EVE players playing DUST was near impossible.

You can see this With many of the EVE entities that have Sub corps for DUST. Their EVE players stopped playing DUST. PC players in General have stopped playing DUST. It's got a terrible control interface... Whos to blame them?

1.4 marked Aim assist... And that patch dropped players significantly even more... Its taken us 8 months to even recover that player base we lost from it....

Your just another forum troll that talks out of his ass.

You are so full of crap.

1) never, ever has the eve community been happy about dust. As soon as it was announced for PS3 exclusive, the entire community thumbed it's collective nose at it.

2) There was absolutely no player drop from 1.4.

3) Uprising was an absolute mess, nobody gives a **** about mouse/kb support except for a few faggots on the forums, like you. Hmm... I wonder why the same neckbeards who want an unfair KB/M advantage on a console are the same neckbeards on the forums?

I love how you try to twist it like even 1% of the playerbase gives a crap about mouse/kb. They don't. You know why they leave? Because asshats like you can't even think about joining a game without all of your girlfriends in protogear and stomping the hell out of the game. You are the cancer that is killing dust, well you and skotty.

You are just another tryhard who derives all of their own self-worth from how good they are at (oh I mean how much they can exploit) a video game. For shame.


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Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 705	Posted - 2014.01.05 08:43:00 - [1] - Quote we couldn't make raw input feel to well on 30 frames a second. And DUST doesnt have alot of chance to even get to 30 frames a second constant in 2014. It's not realistic, DS4 is nice? Unless Rouge has some magical EP powers(He gets some benefit of the doubt, what little faith i have in DUST falls with him)
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 717	Posted - 2014.01.05 19:13:00 - [2] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Bethhy wrote: we couldn't make raw input feel to well on 30 frames a second. And DUST doesnt have alot of chance to even get to 30 frames a second constant in 2014. It's not realistic, DS4 is nice? Unless Rouge has some magical EP powers(He gets some benefit of the doubt, what little faith i have in DUST falls with him) I've played a lot of games on underpowered PCs, sub 20 FPS sometimes. It's not optimal, but the mouse experience was much better than Dust. Framerate is a component of smooth input, but I don't think it's critical. Regardless at the 15 FPS most Planetary Conquests run at best... MKB isn't even worth using.. even after using it for 15 years. Try and run a shooter at that on a PC and see how fluid or consistent the interface is.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 825	Posted - 2014.01.15 06:07:00 - [3] - Quote CCP actually caring about core mechanics? like Aiming in a shooter? when they could spend time adding a cool new gun? hell no. The PS Move is equally as messed right now too... ONLY reason DS3 even seems alright is they have a giant band aid AA over it. even the blue shields are back like 1.0, but wait... oh yea hit detection was fixed? not really... well when I use the DS3 with AA its amazing I even hit when I'm off target and feel dirty for the kills that get handed to me. We sit here arguing about a scout having a side arm and validity of cloaking... but aiming in a shooter? this game has become a joke.. and there really isn't defending that point to any person that is passionate about FPS's. Welcome to CCP's AAA shooter.... Might aswell call it a MMORPG with gunlike elements. Because aiming in this game is a giant farce.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 862	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:20:00 - [4] - Quote Meh most of the KB/M users are planning their new years PC gaming machines and trying to put this rough chapter of DUST and their experiment with Console games behind them... Others are used to using disposable income on gaming and ahve already bought a PS4 and moved on to greener pastures. Only the fans of CCP, and possibly DUST are still around really.. its sad but actions sadly speak louder then words.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1673	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:12:00 - [5] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Keyboard and mouse has cost dust more users in the first year than it will ever bring in over Dust lifetime. Any time someone who uses a console finds out that they will be playing against KB/M with their controller, they shy away. Dust is no different. Except your full of ***. DUST with Proper Mouse and Keyboard support... 15k player peaks. And EVE players actually excited about the game. DUST with Terrible Mouse and Keyboard Support 4-5k player peaks. EVE players Want the DUST 514 project cancelled. Your just another un-informed internet troll... Bet you scream "Fing M?KB users!" everytime you die too.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1675	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:54:00 - [6] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Bethhy wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Keyboard and mouse has cost dust more users in the first year than it will ever bring in over Dust lifetime. Any time someone who uses a console finds out that they will be playing against KB/M with their controller, they shy away. Dust is no different. Except your full of ***. DUST with Proper Mouse and Keyboard support... 15k player peaks. And EVE players actually excited about the game. DUST with Terrible Mouse and Keyboard Support 4-5k player peaks. EVE players Want the DUST 514 project cancelled. Your just another un-informed internet troll... Bet you scream "Fing M?KB users!" everytime you die too. Nope, you are just incredibly stupid. Dust, first launch... 15k. Dust after console players say f-ck playing with kb/m players.. 3k. Eve players have always, always wanted dust canceled. God you are dumb. Yup extremely un informed and very ignorant you are. Uprising Launch = Worst KB/M support in DUST's history... Check the mass exodus of players.... The console fanboys went no where... The people with a nice PC and other gaming options that didn't need a free game on the console? Left. That playstation 3 was only a few hundred dollars... Alot of players own Mouses that are 150-200bux... Was an easy write off. Not for someone who lives on their playstation however... I Have been playing EVE for a since 2003... We actually planned for DUST 514 and EVE players to play it When it was announced... In 3 different alliances I was apart of. EVERYONE was excited... You merely have to check that years fanfest results that led CCP to even make the game. After terrible peripheral control in Uprising launch... Holding consistent Active EVE players playing DUST was near impossible. You can see this With many of the EVE entities that have Sub corps for DUST. Their EVE players stopped playing DUST. PC players in General have stopped playing DUST. It's got a terrible control interface... Whos to blame them? 1.4 marked Aim assist... And that patch dropped players significantly even more... Its taken us 8 months to even recover that player base we lost from it.... Your just another forum troll that talks out of his ass.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1681	Posted - 2014.04.04 02:04:00 - [7] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Bethhy wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Bethhy wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Keyboard and mouse has cost dust more users in the first year than it will ever bring in over Dust lifetime. Any time someone who uses a console finds out that they will be playing against KB/M with their controller, they shy away. Dust is no different. Except your full of ***. DUST with Proper Mouse and Keyboard support... 15k player peaks. And EVE players actually excited about the game. DUST with Terrible Mouse and Keyboard Support 4-5k player peaks. EVE players Want the DUST 514 project cancelled. Your just another un-informed internet troll... Bet you scream "Fing M?KB users!" everytime you die too. Nope, you are just incredibly stupid. Dust, first launch... 15k. Dust after console players say f-ck playing with kb/m players.. 3k. Eve players have always, always wanted dust canceled. God you are dumb. Yup extremely un informed and very ignorant you are. Uprising Launch = Worst KB/M support in DUST's history... Check the mass exodus of players.... The console fanboys went no where... The people with a nice PC and other gaming options that didn't need a free game on the console? Left. That playstation 3 was only a few hundred dollars... Alot of players own Mouses that are 150-200bux... Was an easy write off. Not for someone who lives on their playstation however... I Have been playing EVE since 2003... We actually planned for DUST 514 and EVE players to play it When it was announced... In 3 different alliances I was apart of. EVERYONE was excited... You merely have to check that years fanfest results that led CCP to even make the game. After terrible peripheral control in Uprising launch... Holding consistent Active EVE players playing DUST was near impossible. You can see this With many of the EVE entities that have Sub corps for DUST. Their EVE players stopped playing DUST. PC players in General have stopped playing DUST. It's got a terrible control interface... Whos to blame them? 1.4 marked Aim assist... And that patch dropped players significantly even more... Its taken us 8 months to even recover that player base we lost from it.... Your just another forum troll that talks out of his ass. You are so full of crap. 1) never, ever has the eve community been happy about dust. As soon as it was announced for PS3 exclusive, the entire community thumbed it's collective nose at it. 2) There was absolutely no player drop from 1.4. 3) Uprising was an absolute mess, nobody gives a ** about mouse/kb support except for a few faggots on the forums, like you. Hmm... I wonder why the same neckbeards who want an unfair KB/M advantage on a console are the same neckbeards on the forums? I love how you try to twist it like even 1% of the playerbase gives a crap about mouse/kb. They don't. You know why they leave? Because asshats like you can't even think about joining a game without all of your girlfriends in protogear and stomping the hell out of the game. You are the cancer that is killing dust, well you and skotty. You are just another tryhard who derives all of their own self-worth from how good they are at (oh I mean how much they can exploit) a video game. For shame. Talking more without backing it up. Wait insults and bullshit claims is backing it up? 1) Yes DUST 514 got launched after how many successful fanfest's.. and numbers and polling because EVE players didn't care? Where do you Think CCP got their numbers from? The Console and PC gaming link No one cared about? No one was excited about? Didn't make DUST the talk of almost every game convention they attended? Where were you? Main Alliances like TEST, Goons, Pandemic Legion, etc didn't make corps in DUST? where a lot went out and bought a PS3 to play? There wasn't actual footage of the Old executive producer actually saying that? Where large number of people where buying Playstations Specifically for DUST 514? 2) http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust You can check the numbers you Moron. Claim all you like with more bullshit. August... To September number changes IS HUGE..... 3) [u]Uprising was a mess because little Punks like you Who didn't understand anything but have HUGE opinions... Then would cry about nerfing this and nerfing that, because EVERYTHING that killed you was OP and you where so good at CoD how come your just not instantly good at DUST. lawl Talk a lot of crap and just spout Internet Rhetoric to sound like you know what you are even talking about... Claim all you want that your some cool kid and everyone else better then you is a nerd and your hilarious.. You just sound butt hurt... Everyone that beats you is a tryhard? Meh if that makes you feel better about yourself? lol.... And no one cares about Mouse and Keyboard?... And really it's such a small amount of people in the world who would even use Mouse and keyboard right? There is like no one that uses it.... Like comon you can't be that Conceded?** Oh yea and now i cheat to beat you? Just pathetic dude But internet troll through and through.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1801	Posted - 2014.04.19 13:24:00 - [8] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Kb/m lol, for those unable to use their thumbs well. Get guud ? People like this are missing the point about a Keyboard and Mouse 3rd party Emulator in DUST 514. No matter what Platform DUST 514 is hosted on.. It is part of the New Eden Galaxy.. And by extension EVE online. CCP knew people from EVE online would want to play DUST... and generally PC players would like to play DUST 514. And for a PC player, or an EVE player... Going out and spending 60 bux on a Keyboard and Mouse Emulator isn't much expense at all. The problem with this is if you take that 3rd party Emulator and Use it with a game like CoD or Battlefield or even DUST 514(Now).. You now have a mouse with Aim assist... What people in the PC world refer to as Aim Hacks. CCP knew this when developing DUST 514. They knew New Eden players would go out and buy a 60 dollar piece of hardware to take advantage of the situation and gain a natural advantage. CCP then set out to offer native Keyboard and Mouse Support for DUST 514 and then Balanced it with the DS3, By many different limitations.. So if you went out and bought a 60 dollar piece of hardware it made no difference in your control input and gameplay then just plugging the USB's into the Playstation. The way they have COMPLETELY unbalanced the peripherals has CREATED a natural advantage in DUST 514 for anyone that goes out and buys an 3rd party Emulator to Emulate the DS3's Aim assist and Hit detection. Fixing controls for a game is a Core Mechanic.. It needs addressing for the benefit of DUST as a whole..
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1838	Posted - 2014.04.25 18:16:00 - [9] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I laugh every time this thread gets bumped. Because the absolute pure lack of blue tag after so many pages just proves the title right every time it rises from the ashes. I enjoy some of these responses. Betthy for instance made such a long winded speech to say "give kb/M raw input because we are just buying workarounds that give us aim assist as well as a superior aiming method" Only the dust community produces such heavy loads of horse ****. Superior aiming method is kinda the only bullshit when talking about DUST. There are several installed inhibiting factors on mouse use in DUST 514 like there always has been... Starting with the fact that it isn't a "Mouse" Its a joystick emulation... so it's never been a true "Mouse" To have that superior control function Bullcrap you blame all your deaths on. Mouse in DUST 514 isn't a MOUSE.... It's a joystick emulation... Keyboard isn't some magical "A" and "D" button that the DS3 doesn't have... They merely emulate the control input off the DS3. Like always. The "Superior" Bullcrap is like claiming the Playstation Move is Superrior because you can pinpoint aim easier with a sniper rifle... You sound as ignorant and silly as a majority of people on this forum... Why don't you go make more threads about nerfing and buffing things... Pretty much all you care about instead of core game mechanics and actually making DUST better.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1838	Posted - 2014.04.25 18:24:00 - [10] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Bethhy wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I laugh every time this thread gets bumped. Because the absolute pure lack of blue tag after so many pages just proves the title right every time it rises from the ashes. I enjoy some of these responses. Betthy for instance made such a long winded speech to say "give kb/M raw input because we are just buying workarounds that give us aim assist as well as a superior aiming method" Only the dust community produces such heavy loads of horse **. Superior aiming method is kinda the only bullshit when talking about DUST. There are several installed inhibiting factors on mouse use in DUST 514 like there always has been... Starting with the fact that it isn't a "Mouse" Its a joystick emulation... so it's never been a true "Mouse" To have that superior control function Bullcrap you blame all your deaths on. Mouse in DUST 514 isn't a MOUSE.... It's a joystick emulation**... Keyboard isn't some magical "A" and "D" button that the DS3 doesn't have... They merely emulate the control input off the DS3. Like always. The "Superior" Bullcrap is like claiming the Playstation Move is Superrior because you can pinpoint aim easier with a sniper rifle... You sound as ignorant and silly as a majority of people on this forum... Why don't you go make more threads about nerfing and buffing things... Pretty much all you care about instead of core game mechanics and actually making DUST better. underlined the lie for you. it has never been stated that it is joystick emulation. If you plug in a mouse, you will also see that it isn't joystick emulation because there is absolutely no acceleration or deceleration with the mouse. Sure the sensitivity and some other factors are wonky, but it is infact using PRECISION not ACCELERATION. You would also without a doubt notice that direction keys (WASD) are indeed digital, not analog. This means they are either full-go or full-stop. Once again, not an emulation. It is the #1 reason why flying a dropship with mouse/kb is a pain. How about you stop making things up? Uhh? There are what 20 emulators? that get rid of acceleration.. What are you on about? There where several CCP posts in beta claiming that mouse support isn't raw input but an emulation... This is accepted fact amoungst almost everyone... Where have you been?