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DootDoot
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Posted - 2013.12.23 18:22:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:My shotgun can't hit ADADAD super strafers.
Will try to get good.
In the mean time, I'd say that's a pretty strong advantage.
How well do you hit Kalante? Soul? Regnyum .... Stutter stepping on a DS3 > Keyboard straffing... by FAR.. specially when one party is actually aiming for themselfs and one is barely even using their Aim input joystick.. and hitting more accurately with better Hit detection.
Straffing on a keyboard with Auto Aim is like... straffing in any other FPS for beginners... because you don't get to do sudden movements to shake peoples aiming ability, you make giant circles as your trying to break Aim assist's lock on you. Where someone stutter stepping and having perfect tracking and Hit detection are near impossible to hit with M/KB and a lot of it feels like praying for a bullet to land. |
DootDoot
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:39:00 -
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Not being able to use controls or the control interface of a game...
Is enoguh of a core mechanic Issue to make any player quit the title and never look at it again.
No matter how long they have played EVE and been with CCP.
Alot of people actually went out to buy a PS3 to play DUST 514 because of the Mouse and Keyboard Support DUST had in Chromosome.
Mouse and Keyboard right now is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad. |
DootDoot
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Posted - 2014.04.04 14:00:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:
Don't give a **** about you kb/m users honestly.
What you want is to be able to play just like you would on a computer, which would give you a huge and unfair advantage over DS3 users.
Frankly, I think ccp should remove kb/m support altogether and force everyone to learn how to play with a DS3, so we're all on equal terms.
How could it be like a computer ever? Please tell me?
We are talking about a DS3 emulation.... Meaning the Mouse is merely Emulating the Joystick... They are worlds apart.
It's interesting how little people know about Mouse and Keyboard on DUST 514... Yet have GIANT opinions... Like just delete the whole thing! its OP!!!! like my gawd? You serious?  |
DootDoot
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Posted - 2014.04.04 14:14:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I would use kb/m but I was like "This is a console game"
People use mouse and keyboard on Every Console game... they just go out and buy an emulator for 60 bux...
http://www.penguinunited.com/
There you go 60 bux and you can use a Mouse with DUST's aim assist....
When CCP Setup the Whole Loose assets each time you die they knew this... And Knew EVE players would go out and buy a 60 dollar pieces of hardware because that is a cheap game investment for a PC player.
Instead CCP built native KB/M support and tried to give a balanced representation to both inputs. So everyone was on a even playing field. And this showed by who was on the leaderboards... It wasn't full of KB/M players it was Gamepad users.
Now with the Way Hit detection and Aim assist work in DUST 514, People that go and buy that 60 dollar piece of hardware can kill you with EXACTLY the unfair advantage people are talking about... a Perfect DS3 emulation and Aim assist helping your mouse out.
There is an unbalance created with control peripherals merely By the assumption That a DS3 even needed Aim assist... Instead of DUST as a WHOLE NEEDING BETTER CONTROL MECHANICS... HIT DETECTION MECHANICS.... |
DootDoot
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Posted - 2014.04.04 14:33:00 -
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Hoover Damn wrote:KA24DERT wrote:What is it with this mind virus that "balance" between DS3 and KB/M is a desirable goal? Classically, in games that allow both controllers and KB/M, KB/M is by far the superior input option. They just don't want to be forced to use it to keep up.
Yet again prove it? Because in this thread there is more then a couple different instances that completely prove that statement wrong in the context of the Console and M/KB support on games. |
DootDoot
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Posted - 2014.04.04 14:59:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:So you are a lying peice of crap, and let me show you why. 1)The eve online forums and scrapheap/failheap challenge have always shown disdain for dust. This is indisputable. The community was cautiously optimistic only until they heard "PS3 exclusive" and then they **** the bed. 2) Eve-offline Shows the beginning of a large decline starting at the very beginning of august, 1.4 was deployed until September. Actually 1.4 removed the turn caps for the mouse (something you little babies cried for forever), added sensitivity adjustments, and improved mouse smoothing. 3) Uprising was a mess because all of you ******** Mouse/KB users and PC dorks kept complaining about this game not being a PC shooter. God, you are breathing out of your mouth now aren't you? Just STFU, stop lying, and deal with the fact that nobody gives one bit of a **** about mouse and keyboard. Well, nobody that matters anyway. Look at you, trying so hard to prove to someone/anyone that your some type of victim. Listen, you suck, that is just how it is. You are absolutely horrible, and you need every single advantage you can try to get your hands on to compete. I understand, neckbeards often act this way, but just calm the hell down there missy. Mouse KB support should be the very last thing they worry about, about the same time they worry about move support.
Looks like we have a resident Thread troll. LOL  
There are tons of examples from other people then bethy posting to the opposite of you. And I can see the numbers myself and they spiked back after the patch for the first two weeks then died off.
We spent Uprising 1.0,1.1,1.2,1.3,1.4,1.5,1.6,1.7 and now 1.8 Nerfing and buffing every weapon in the game.Because of crybabies who think people who beat them are cheaters and tryhards. Mass driver was strong, weak, strong, weak now strong.. Assault rifles everyone of them have been buffed and nerfed 5 times or more. Laser rifle, scrambler pistol, HMG, forge, swarms, AV grenades.. You name it...
People like you are exactly why DUST has been in self destructive mode. Just Giant opinions based on no fact crying about the wrong issue. Everyone that knows any better WANTS better controls in general for DUST 514, EVERYONE that knows any better WANTS better hit detection for DUST.
And everyone that knows any better knows you can't just buff the DS3 and Everything will be fine... Because people just go pay 60 bux http://www.penguinunited.com/ And they have Mouse and Keyboard like ANY game on the console Only with DUST's Aim assist.
Oh and everyone get's to pay for their losses with a true imbalanced control peripheral interface because of ignorance like this piece of work. Who is full of bull-honky.
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DootDoot
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:28:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:M McManus wrote:All m/kb users who are unhappy with the current controls and sensitivity should let their voice be heard.. File a support ticket, create threads, raise hell till we get a response/acknowledgement from Devs..
- The aim and control sticky in the feedback section has now been removed
- Even after multiple kb/m users expresed their concerns with the current mouse emulation vs DS3 aim assist there was never a response from a Dev..
- Friends of mine who use kb/m and myself have posted support tickets and they refer us to post on the forums. .
- The small minority of vocal mouse users who make threads have half trolls and half users struggling with the following..
Wobbling ADS
Inaccurate hip fire slides left and right
Acceleration to slow on some mouse types
Now before the DS3 users get on here and say htfu its a console use a controller gtfo tryhard etc When the DS3 was slow and ****** up in chromosome and pre 1.4 you guys were pissed and extremly vocal about it... Now put yourself in our shoes you're still unable to track tagets the controls have a mind of there own and you're constantly going up against other players that get aim assist and you have pre 1.4 controls. . Don't give a **** about you kb/m users honestly. What you want is to be able to play just like you would on a computer, which would give you a huge and unfair advantage over DS3 users. Frankly, I think ccp should remove kb/m support altogether and force everyone to learn how to play with a DS3, so we're all on equal terms. I have linear mouse input with my GIMX adapter. Ready to push your **** back in any day. I can see why you'd need that. Seeing as you suck at using a DS3. Scrub...
Well the scrubs sucked at using a DS3... Obviously... That's why they needed Aim assist? Seems the Gamepad users where doing just fine before.
How does it feel to be chest beating about a device that a playstation helps you aim with? Does it make you feel good when DUST corrects your aim for you so you can actually hit them? Then you get to stroke your little epeener and feel better?
Next thing you'll brag about your Auto Aim in GTA and how much better your are at it compared to other people with it. Like listen to yourself... Is this what you want as a game player? To have your hand held and nothing be made hard or challenging? So that you can chest beat and claim your better then someone?
Pathetic. |
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