The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think you opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

Ok, so we're getting a refund on spent SP soon, great. My question is about the optional respecs. Does that mean we can submit a ticket and get respecs at will and for the foreseeable future, or is it just for now?

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think you opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

First off, I would like to thank you and your team for the wonderful update and point out a few specific things that imo need to be changed...

1) Forum profile pics -- can these plz match our new in game avatar pics? hehe

2) Controls -- I know you said your tweaking these, thanks!! its fine when I'm not zoomed in, and then when zoomed in I can't turn and aim for **** because its soooo slow...

3) Gallente Assault -- Um, why does the gallente assault specialization skill give you 5% shield regeneration bonus when the proto suit only gives you one mid? -- It seems that all the assault suits are "shield 5% regeneration", and not even a suit that looks like armor tank still gives you shield regen bonus. Was this intentional???

4) Income vs cost of death --- On average I get 100-150k per round, that seems to be what I get at least. I die, life happens. Sometimes I die 5-10 times a match because as you said I'm a 4M sp playing against 9M SP characters. Anyway, I know basic fits are only 4k, but a single pro suit is still 60k + fits -- thats basically 1-2 deaths and your loosing money..

My question with #4 is mostly, is there going to be opportunity for more income for those of us who are not in planetary conquest battles? Yes, ican make money by using cheeper suits, I also die more because I don't have the durability.

What about reactivating skirmish 1.0. All the players I play with said it was fun back in closed beta. I came in to late in closed beta to play it. So what about bringing it back as another game mode.
There's ambush and ambush oms.
What about skirmish and skirmish 1.0

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

For example: Entry to these battles will be limited by total warpoints earned per character and will prevent older players from joining.

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

If you guys increase MD splash range a bit too, I love you all forever <3

I know the entire CPM appreciates the steps that CCP is taking to improve communication and transparency with the community.

For the health and future of the Dust 514, I hope that progress continues to be made moving forward.

So all the dropship pilots should be able to get into these battles, right?

I hope that the issue with the flux grenades is addressed soon. I'll be posting a thread about it but hands down the flux grenades have the worst hit detection of all the weapons.

No no domination is one point. Skirmish 1.0 had points but then opened up other parts of the map something like that. Not sure.

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

Yeah skirmish 1.0 was a 2 point battle ... one side defending with a static MCC ... the other side attacking with an MCC moving towards the defenders base. If the attackers destroyed the null cannons or hacked them, their MCC would reach the defenders base before it blew up and the map would move redzone into the next stage.

The second stage was 3 objectives inside one of the compounds, but I forget how it balanced the MCC damages, but as defenders you could win before the second stage started if you held the objectives, and as attackers you could blow them up and improve your MCCs hp retention for the second stage.

It was dynamic, which made it more interesting, not just static MCCs and a static map with a few bits dropping from the sky sometimes.

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Skill point progression:[/b] Based on your feedback we will be doing further adjustments to skill point requirements for specializations, which received a massive rework in Uprising along with the new node based visualization of the tech tree. Our plan is to address this by tweaking skill point requirements GÇô and in that process reimburse you with the skill points that youGÇÖve spent back to your unused skill pool. Additionally, we are planning an optional skill point respec of skill points to players via petitioning our game masters after this change occurs, in case some of you may not be completely satisfied with your original choices. We also believe that this will solve some dropsuit requirements that were changed in Uprising, giving you easier access to those items again. Details about changes to the skill point progress will be forthcoming when available, and weGÇÖll provide an updated spreadsheet in advance of that (the previous one provided) here.

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

Awesome guys, the %10 damage increase sounds great!


If you guys increase MD splash range a bit too, I love you all forever <3

(whipping the hamsters can only get so far and our hamsters are busily making fixes!).

100% agree with you! I literally couldn't agree more!
CCP LISTEN TO THIS GUY!
It may not seem it (although it should be obvious) but this guy is speaking on behalf of A LOT of the DUST 514 community!

Well I guess with respec just being one ticket away we are gonna see ALOT more Caldari Logi on the field....

I am new to multiplayer FPS', never played Battlefield or Call of Duty. Medal of Honor would be the closest and THAT was really fun.

As others have said, especially for newbies, this game really does suck. I have been playing for a week now, spent my $20 buying the merck pack, out of AUR (and can't buy more, even if I wanted to, but it is beta, so no biggie).

There are 3 ideas that I would like to suggest:
1) it doesn't cost you consumables if you die before firing a shot
2) Change auto-deploy so that it is soldier specific... if your primary weapon is assault you go to the front, medic, anti-armour, etc in the middle and drop snipers high and dry in the back.
3) Give new users a chance to survive with an armour bonus based on their kill/death ratio (or something!) so they can survive to build. The better they get, the faster it goes away.

My $0.02
funguy 2playwith

Do Militia LAVs really need a huge HP buff? They're free LAVs, after all. Spend a little SP and get into something better if you don't want to pop from AV grenades.

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

all i want to know is why all assault riffles have scopes on them in the viewer but why we dont have them on r automatic assault riffles ???Give us sights something to aim down this is a game of the future but yet reddot or acog scopes lack on r assault riffles give us r sights ccp

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

It should really be cut down to 4% per level. That way with 5 shield extenders it's 396, that's still a whole shield extender right there. 5% is a little too much...

5% is perfect

You're coming to the party about 4 months too late ...maybe someday theyll come back as addon accessories.

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

Any and all changes and info you have and are thinking to implement needs to be shared with the community.

I am sorry CCP but if you want your game to succeed we need total transparency on the changes you believe need to be made WELL before they go through.

I would not normally think that this would be the best way to approach balancing issues in the game but you have proven time and again that a lot of the changes you implement are to the detriment of the game.

There are many active forum warriors that would be more than happy to help crunch numbers and think out side the box on how certain changes will affect the game.

Please moving forward post what changes you are looking into making and why. Most are here to help and these people should be easily spotted.

The changes that you make half the time are to sweeping in nature and doesn't help in whittling away what the problem is for each situation.

Less hatchet and more scaple.

But more content and less nerfing.

Any and all changes and info you have and are thinking to implement needs to be shared with the community.

I am sorry CCP but if you want your game to succeed we need total transparency on the changes you believe need to be made WELL before they go through.

I would not normally think that this would be the best way to approach balancing issues in the game but you have proven time and again that a lot of the changes you implement are to the detriment of the game.

There are many active forum warriors that would be more than happy to help crunch numbers and think out side the box on how certain changes will affect the game.

Please moving forward post what changes you are looking into making and why. Most are here to help and these people should be easily spotted.

The changes that you make half the time are to sweeping in nature and doesn't help in whittling away what the problem is for each situation.

Less hatchet and more scaple.

But more content and less nerfing.

Matchmaking GÇô we are working to put live an update to matchmaking on 5/14 that gets new players to play together, and keeps the vets and their proto gear away. For example: Entry to these battles will be limited by total warpoints earned per character and will prevent older players from joining. New players will not be presented with the existing instant battle queues however they can join a squad with veteran players and be pulled into other battles.
Expect this change to hit TQ by next week and for more details from CCP Nullarbor you can go here.

I am a long time lurker here, but I think its about time I post something. I started playing EvE in 2011 when a friend told me about DUST 514. I fell in love with EvE and CCP, and my hopes for DUST grew as time went on. Dust entered beta, and I got in at an early stage for being an eve player. It was rough, but it was a beta. It has continually gotten better as time has gone on. When people make statements like this



I wonder if they realize that their OPINION is not FACT. I also wonder if they have ever made a video game or piece of interactive media. As a hobbyist indie developer who makes small art games and projects, I wonder if they have any idea how difficult making a game is. I also think sometimes console gamers/ gamers in general dont realize CCP develops games for the long term, they arent looking to release DUST 514 2, DUST 514 BLOPS, DUST 514 Future Warfare 3. It will always just be a steady and constant iteration on DUST till its refined and mature like EvE Online is now. I also think it is laugh-able to compare DUST to COD or BF3 as user Simon Gunn did. Those games just suck, you buy a new one every 6 months just to play with a few new weapons and kill streak mechanics. *guffaw* All that said, I cant wait for the future of DUST, things look better and play better with every update. If any dev team can pull off making DUST work, its going to be CCP.

TL;DR Your OPINIONS aren't FACTS. Keep up the hard work CCP.

If I was a game developer trying to find out what are the issues of my game, I would only find the fine lining of this post has. Everything else about entire post overall is worthless though.

The reason why I am disagreeing with the post for the most part is the fact that the 'fun' part is generally a very very hard goal to hit for any and every game. That majority of the time FUN is an opinion.

Lets look at a few other games.

Imagine a game where all you do in the game is order something, it takes some resources and now you have to wait anywhere from a few hours to a couple of days before it gets done. The object that gets done nearly nothing special other than what every other building does but generate resources, maybe it has different art or assets but nothing more.

Doesn't sound fun right?

This is what we call a time gate game, they're typically common on face book these days an now mobile devices games such as Farmville and Tiny Monsters.

While many of us here may not find that fun there are quire a few people that do and pays tonns of money to skip the time gate portion of the game.

While we're not here to talk about other games and more about first person shooters the reason why the opinion of fun is just an opinion is that not every game tailors to everyone. There are those who would like Counter Strike over ARMA, Ghost Recon 1 over 2. Call of Duty over Halo. Portal over Half Life 2. Mirror's Edge over Battlefield. The list goes on an on on why each game can or cannot be considered fun at all. This is a very ambiguous goal to find, and make whole and its own.

What is far more feasible to find however, is the cause of the misery index in the game. Things that are appalling, frustrating, making every kill a tooth or hair pulling experience. These can, not only be found easily, but fixed easily in an MMO environment, had dust 514 been a single player one shot game, it would have failed horridly with this build.

So goals we need to achieve that may help satisfy your needs

Making the game less about fighting the controls and more about fighting the enemy.

Making the game less about fighting the numbers and more planning against the enemy.

Making the game less about fighting bugs and more about making that awesome kill shot that by all accounts should have NEVER happened.

Making the game less about whining about its short falls and more about talking on how awesome it really is.

This is going to take time, hair pulling testing and adjustment and tuning, it can't be done over night either by a studio that has never made a shooter in its life before. Despite having ex Dice and ex Zipper developers dust 514's is far more ambiguous of a project and you can only do so much tweaking of the core at a time and you have to see the results of everything it has on the multiple layers of things that wraps around the core such as balance, flavor, theme, gear, environment and the sorts.

No matter the Skills Respec, for i will petition this. And thanks for the opportunity.

But how about CCP's Promise on the refunding of Merc Packs after beta is gone. CCP and it's customers had an agreement and is CCP going to stick with it ? If So, yay.

If not I'd like to hear CCP's alternative for purchased Aurum Items, Like dropsuits which we might or might not be able to use, or due to the variety of skills not wanting to use.

This is my main concern which keeps me from the game. I hope CCP has an answer.

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

please let us know when it going to happen about Skills Respec , i want to be ready and not miss out on it, 24 hours window will be good for most of us because of the time zone around the world , please let us know when

many thanks

Just like the respec, there is an optional full character reset (Your SP and assets disappear as if you deleted and remade the character) and all your aurum/merc pack stuff will be refunded, as well as any other 'reward' stuff earned up until the time you got your reset.

If you want this reset, just send a mail to [email protected] and tell them your psn and character name, etc.

I didn't actually write this guys, I just posted it and get to soak up the likes.

As for the respec, I believe it's a one-time only thing that you can submit a petition about. I'm sure we'll have further details exactly what it is before the 14th.

If the Weaponry skill is being refunded, then why not dropsuit command? there are 5 levels of it and there is no passive bonus either. Going beyond level 3 is unnecessary so why have levels 4 and 5? Seems like a relatively unneeded skill to me.

Weapons now fixed

an AR chewing through almost 1k hp on a heavy in under 2 secs or so from 67+ meters away is fixed?

So there is going to be another respec right?

where do u petition 4 this respec ? as i'd definitely be interested in one

Exaggerated much?

I'm not that good at the game, but I've played loads. That makes me think the matchmaking process as outlined here will pit me against people much better than me. I'm fine with that, but not sure that's what you want to achieve. I wouldn't mind that because *most* of my team will be as good as *most* of those on the other team, so no pub-stomping. It will be even enough. But why not take an average of WP versus matches played instead of straight WP? And / or factor SP into the equation too? There's a more accurate way of balancing this I think.

There's also what sounds like a good idea someone mentioned for matching up based on suit - e.g. proto matched with proto, standard matched with standard. Match on the combined meta level of the fit. Restrict choice when spawning to the level you were matched on. That might be fun too.

I'd also like to be able to choose whether the games I am put into have matchmaking applied - something like a setting that says "Apply matchmaking algorithms to lobby selection".

Some thoughts at least.

an AR chewing through almost 1k hp on a heavy in under 2 secs or so from 67+ meters away is fixed?

In the support section

None at all actually

Just ask most heavies who aren't in proto suits yet...

and yes what you say is very likely

Transparancy and communication = +1

"Logistics not being able to see revive icon at all times" thanks for adressing this issue, but sadly it wasn't the only issue with reviving: most of the time reviving just doesn't work. Can you atleast include that CCP is aware of this or working on it? Now it seems like you guys fixed the problem.

Where do we petition for the optional respec? I would definitely lke a respec if at all possible.

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives..

We also appreciate that many of you desire communication from us that is even more transparent and timely when it comes to upcoming changes. In this regard, we are taking steps to make communications with you better. Chief among them is working with the CPM (Council of Planetary Management, the player council involved with DUST 514 development and the voice of you, the users), and generally increasing both the quantity and quality of communication. We are working hard to achieve this while continuing to keep things moving along in the development trenches. It can be tough at times, because we want to spend more time with you, learning from you, while working hard to bring you more of what you want in-game as quick as we can GÇô please know, even if we go silent for a little bit, we are listening, but, that said, we are going to work extra hard to jump in and talk with you no matter what.

The biggest problem that you face is that DUST 514 is not FUN.

While I know there are problems with specific game functions (hit detection primarily), all of these problems pale in comparison to the fact that Dust 514 is just not fun. The core of the core game, shooting space people, just isn't fun, killing an enemy doesn't leave me satisfied, it just leaves me with a feeling of "wow, that sure was annoying". Taking points on the map isn't fun, it's just annoying. Wow I sure am glad I just fought that guy for 3 minutes hitting mostly air, just so one of his pals can spawn in and kill me with an invisible militia grenade. CCP this is the real danger you have with Dust 514, no matter how deeply integrated it is into EVE and how much winning and losing battles means to the EVE universe, no one will continue to play this game if one dude shooting another dude is not FUN.

Other than desperately needing to make DUST 514 FUN in terms of shooting a space merc in the face, another important core piece of an FPS that makes it FUN is the use of strategy. When there are tiered objectives within a match not only do you have to out-gun your opponent, but you also have to out-think your opponent, it is very satisfying to out strategize your opponent and use teamwork to accomplish objectives.

With the current POS game mode in DUST 514 all people do is run around in a big circle and chase each other like kids playing with water guns. There is no strategy involved, the points that are held are meaningless and hold absolutely no strategic value. It is FUN when you have to understand what your opponent is thinking and see what they are trying to accomplish and react to match conditions in real-time. None of these elements are present in "Skirmish POS", some did exist in Skirmish 1.0.

Keep up the info CCP. Could you please add some notifications or a quick news post on Dust itself. I have noticed a lot of people left in the dark and it would also help the atmosphere and make people feel part of the beta community. Word of mouth is one thing, but they don't often here it when they are in a squad all day.


Keep up the transparency CCP,and please post it on Dust itself or via a notification, letting us know about known issues helps us work around the problem.

Dear players,


Skill point progression: Based on your feedback we will be doing further adjustments to skill point requirements......


Our plan is to address this by tweaking skill point requirements GÇô and in that process reimburse you with the skill points that youGÇÖve spent back to your unused skill pool. Additionally, we are planning an optional skill point respec of skill points to players via petitioning our game masters after this change occurs, in case some of you may not be completely satisfied with your original choices. We also believe that this will solve some dropsuit requirements that were changed in Uprising, giving you easier access to those items again. Details about changes to the skill point progress will be forthcoming when available, and weGÇÖll provide an updated spreadsheet in advance of that (the previous one provided) here.

As we bring Beta to a close on 5/14, we have all hands on deck to keep pushing updates and responding to your feedback. We sincerely thank you very much!

Reading this posting it can be read in different ways.

Does it mean the SP reimbursed is only the pasts they are going to tweak, or are they going to do a full reimburse with optional petition later for players who have made some catastrophic error.

Personally, as we know they simply just got it wrong surely it would be easier if they just gave it all back to all players given the amount of people who've argued over new system since it inception.

H.D

The updates to this are going out right now as I type this. You can analyze details of this using this spreadsheet here we provided from what launched May 6th with Uprising deployment, to this new one we are providing right now with all the updates here.

About the respec, I think that making it optional is a bad idea, for two reasons:


* First, not everyone will know they have that option:

- Most people don't come to the forums, so they can't learn about the optional respec from reading them.

- A lot of people are not in corps, so they won't learn about the optional respec from corpmates.

- Some people don't even read their mails or the chats, so they won't learn about the optional respec from those either.


But all those players may have wasted sp due to wrong descriptions on items and skills in the game, and deserve the possibility to respec their sp if they do so desire.



* Second, it is making things more complicated than they should be. Why waste the time of both the players and the GMs? Players will have to go through the hassle of making a petition, and the GMs will waste a lot of time processing hundreds of such petitions.



Keep it simple and give everyone a full respec.

Do Militia LAVs really need a huge HP buff? They're free LAVs, after all. Spend a little SP and get into something better if you don't want to pop from AV grenades.

I just dont understand how you're suppose to be updating a game and make it worste. Never seen that before through all my gaming years. I mean seriously as big and slow as a heavy is you give him no range. This is just ridiculous and whoever thought of this idea needs help. Everyone should just go assault with the devoulle and we should just call it call of duty 514. Now I have to wait for a respect keep losing isk and aur trying to run a proto heavy while getting at least 10 deaths a game because some proto assault laughs at me right out my range and kills me. Or some scout barely avoids my kill by running away and im way too slow to catch him. Makes no sense

I have to agree. "Keep it simple stupid"

So... Do we Submit a Help Ticket to Get the Optional Respec? on the 14th ??? i'm not sure where to petition Game Masters..

About the respec, I think that making it optional is a bad idea, for two reasons:


* First, not everyone will know they have that option:

- Most people don't come to the forums, so they can't learn about the optional respec from reading them.

- A lot of people are not in corps, so they won't learn about the optional respec from corpmates.

- Some people don't even read their mails or the chats, so they won't learn about the optional respec from those either.


But all those players may have wasted sp due to wrong descriptions on items and skills in the game, and deserve the possibility to respec their sp if they do so desire.



* Second, it is making things more complicated than they should be. Why waste the time of both the players and the GMs? Players will have to go through the hassle of making a petition, and the GMs will waste a lot of time processing hundreds of such petitions.



Keep it simple and give everyone a full respec.

CCP,

Thanks for making a great game, especially one that is free, and in depth, this game has levels and forces you to think and organize , utilize teamwork etc, its not your COD or BF and i am greatful, although this last week i have felt that it has been less DUST and more COD .

Q1.) I have some serious confusion about what a reimbursement is versus an optional respec. can you clarify ? Also, no pressure, but dates and notification of these changes would be super nice.

Statement ) The big appeal to this game was that from the beginning you could begin your path to which ever role from character creation ( logi , assult, supply , sniper , heavy ) , I am a logi / DS pilot .I decided to join Minmatar for the premade medic class. I see that my artificer suit has been taken from me. I see that my CPU and PG bonus have been been removed and now I am force to skill 2.1 million points into drop suits to have a logistics suits. Worse off, I joined a corporation as a PROTO logi and promised to be a good logi and now I nothing more than a glorified water body who never has the right tool. What is the reason behind these changes ? Why must i be stripped of my artificer suit?

Q2.) why do i need to get gallante vehicle command to level 5 before i can get a logistics drop ship? Would it not be better to allow we early access to ships but which each level increase the properties i.e 5% movement bonus on gallante ships. Ill be honest dropships and pilots do not get love. Ive been flying a Gallante DS for a while with militia gear and all my squads love me but at the end of the day I shouldn't have to tank 2.1 million points to get a dropship when its going to get knocked out of the air the same as a militia. However I LOVE THE

Q3.) if i need dropsuit levels to skill into vehicles can you bring back the CPU and PG bonus associated with that :-) makes flying better.

Statement.) I understand dust is a long term commitment like eve, so it does not bother me that i need to tank loads of SP into skills and that it may take months of grinding to achieve these skills. I want to say that i have access to less now than i did before. This is frustrating. Even with aurum i do not have access to as many items.

I would like a skill respec , but honestly if the skill points are going to remain this high it may not matter, Ill just put a passive booster once a month until christmas and go enjoy life and if people are still playing at this time I should be able to contend and fulfill my commitment as a logi

A little off topic. I lost my basic militia sentinel (the one with the forge) when the last reset come about.. so now i have no basic militia fit to speak of.. Any chance those of us who chose our specific race and class to get the aforementioned drop suit, might be able to get some compensation?! i.e a 'Skinweave' heavy suit ?!

Ok, they REALLY need to tell us how to respec. Else, they make us miss our chance. I really need it, and they're going to give an answer too late and I (Prolly everyone else that wants a respec) will be sad. :(

can we respec our race too now that it affects your starter fits?

Uh... How? xD

Sign me up for the respec.

a return on overvalued sp upgrading but can we have another option on full player respec!! this is the heart of the matter

Additionally, we are planning an optional skill point respec of skill points to players via petitioning our game masters after this change occurs, in case some of you may not be completely satisfied with your original choices

The updates to this are going out right now as I type this. You can analyze details of this using this spreadsheet here we provided from what launched May 6th with Uprising deployment, to this new one we are providing right now with all the updates here.

Posted at 14.05.2013 12:54 by GM Koshka
Hello,

Thank you for your response.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience that this may be causing you.

As for a specific date to when respec will take place and will be available for players, we have no information that we can pass on yet, however it will be soon, within this month.

As we mentioned before, please keep an eye on our forum for further updates on this matter:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=898

Please note that we will now close this petition to free up the slot for you, but should you have any other issue please do not hesitate to petition us again.

Regards,
GM Koshka
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | Dust 514

lol yeah I dumped like 1.5 mil into Logicars last night cus I thought the respec was a guarantee....no new suit for me for a bit =(

I want a respec

Oh and to everyone who thinks heavies are OP suck it man thats the entire point of a heavy is to be the center of attention able to destroy almost anything or anyone

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