DUST Search - Announcement:Uprising between now, 5/14 and beyond

reydient wrote:

CCP,

Thanks for making a great game, especially one that is free, and in depth, this game has levels and forces you to think and organize , utilize teamwork etc, its not your COD or BF and i am greatful, although this last week i have felt that it has been less DUST and more COD .

Q1.) I have some serious confusion about what a reimbursement is versus an optional respec. can you clarify ? Also, no pressure, but dates and notification of these changes would be super nice.

Statement ) The big appeal to this game was that from the beginning you could begin your path to which ever role from character creation ( logi , assult, supply , sniper , heavy ) , I am a logi / DS pilot .I decided to join Minmatar for the premade medic class. I see that my artificer suit has been taken from me. I see that my CPU and PG bonus have been been removed and now I am force to skill 2.1 million points into drop suits to have a logistics suits. Worse off, I joined a corporation as a PROTO logi and promised to be a good logi and now I nothing more than a glorified water body who never has the right tool. What is the reason behind these changes ? Why must i be stripped of my artificer suit?

Q2.) why do i need to get gallante vehicle command to level 5 before i can get a logistics drop ship? Would it not be better to allow we early access to ships but which each level increase the properties i.e 5% movement bonus on gallante ships. Ill be honest dropships and pilots do not get love. Ive been flying a Gallante DS for a while with militia gear and all my squads love me but at the end of the day I shouldn't have to tank 2.1 million points to get a dropship when its going to get knocked out of the air the same as a militia. However I LOVE THE

Q3.) if i need dropsuit levels to skill into vehicles can you bring back the CPU and PG bonus associated with that :-) makes flying better.

Statement.) I understand dust is a long term commitment like eve, so it does not bother me that i need to tank loads of SP into skills and that it may take months of grinding to achieve these skills. I want to say that i have access to less now than i did before. This is frustrating. Even with aurum i do not have access to as many items.

I would like a skill respec , but honestly if the skill points are going to remain this high it may not matter, Ill just put a passive booster once a month until christmas and go enjoy life and if people are still playing at this time I should be able to contend and fulfill my commitment as a logi

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mrunknown2u2 Ill Omens EoN. 3	Posted - 2013.05.13 10:10:00 - [151] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: About the respec, I think that making it optional is a bad idea, for two reasons: * First, not everyone will know they have that option: - Most people don't come to the forums, so they can't learn about the optional respec from reading them. - A lot of people are not in corps, so they won't learn about the optional respec from corpmates. - Some people don't even read their mails or the chats, so they won't learn about the optional respec from those either. But all those players may have wasted sp due to wrong descriptions on items and skills in the game, and deserve the possibility to respec their sp if they do so desire. * Second, it is making things more complicated than they should be. Why waste the time of both the players and the GMs? Players will have to go through the hassle of making a petition, and the GMs will waste a lot of time processing hundreds of such petitions. Keep it simple and give everyone a full respec. I have to agree. "Keep it simple stupid"
WhoIsThat1 aka Guyver D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 14:26:00 - [152] - Quote Eltra Ardell wrote: Do Militia LAVs really need a huge HP buff? They're free LAVs, after all. Spend a little SP and get into something better if you don't want to pop from AV grenades. Yeah. An HP buff to Militia LAVs is really not necessary.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 14:34:00 - [153] - Quote What abouth that "Stucks" on glitched stairs, legdes, hills or in jump, when you basicaly stuck in structure. What about speed of throw when i want use grenades, my grandmother throwing things faster that "super-uber" clone in dust. What about invisible walls, when trying to throw nade from corner cover and its just bump back from invisible wall. BTW that boost for clowncars are just ridiclous, they were fine, i recomend if you want that, boost speed od AA load with swarm damage.
NewOldMan KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.05.13 14:50:00 - [154] - Quote Thanks for the post, the most important thing to me in the thread is the fact that they will be reworking the skill tree. Chromosome to me was great. All you needed to do was make things fall in line to a skill tree more. Now it takes far too long to skill into some things, like logistics suits. The whole concept behind basic frame suits is fine, if they weren't carbon copies of their specialized counterparts in most cases (logis get screwed) Just go back to chromosome in that regard it was nice to be able to be drop 49k SP and get into a type one suit, instead of 1.8 million, the end game of this game is owning all of the planets, not just being a full proto bear
Grenadez Rollack A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 9	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:08:00 - [155] - Quote I just dont understand how you're suppose to be updating a game and make it worste. Never seen that before through all my gaming years. I mean seriously as big and slow as a heavy is you give him no range. This is just ridiculous and whoever thought of this idea needs help. Everyone should just go assault with the devoulle and we should just call it call of duty 514. Now I have to wait for a respect keep losing isk and aur trying to run a proto heavy while getting at least 10 deaths a game because some proto assault laughs at me right out my range and kills me. Or some scout barely avoids my kill by running away and im way too slow to catch him. Makes no sense
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:17:00 - [156] - Quote Grenadez Rollack wrote: I just dont understand how you're suppose to be updating a game and make it worste. Never seen that before through all my gaming years. I mean seriously as big and slow as a heavy is you give him no range. This is just ridiculous and whoever thought of this idea needs help. Everyone should just go assault with the devoulle and we should just call it call of duty 514. Now I have to wait for a respect keep losing isk and aur trying to run a proto heavy while getting at least 10 deaths a game because some proto assault laughs at me right out my range and kills me. Or some scout barely avoids my kill by running away and im way too slow to catch him. Makes no sense Its easy big amount of stuff withou trying basic mechanics. There is still many wierd glitches and mechanics, they just implementing more stuff without fixing the old ones and tbh nerfing is not the way.
Dallas All Star killa clones 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:19:00 - [157] - Quote thank you.. I am a hmg guy & I didn't like that you guys toned down the hmgs & the rifle can still hit & kill me from so far away but with the new up dates I hope the game is great.. love playing 514
major parts Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 12	Posted - 2013.05.13 16:47:00 - [158] - Quote mrunknown2u2 wrote: Flyingconejo wrote: About the respec, I think that making it optional is a bad idea, for two reasons: * First, not everyone will know they have that option: - Most people don't come to the forums, so they can't learn about the optional respec from reading them. - A lot of people are not in corps, so they won't learn about the optional respec from corpmates. - Some people don't even read their mails or the chats, so they won't learn about the optional respec from those either. But all those players may have wasted sp due to wrong descriptions on items and skills in the game, and deserve the possibility to respec their sp if they do so desire. * Second, it is making things more complicated than they should be. Why waste the time of both the players and the GMs? Players will have to go through the hassle of making a petition, and the GMs will waste a lot of time processing hundreds of such petitions. Keep it simple and give everyone a full respec. I have to agree. "Keep it simple stupid" More of This!! I want to try and overcome shotgun issues tonight by spending huge SP!! Don't trust the idea of trusting someone with my 'petition request' before blowing all my SP!!!!
major parts Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 12	Posted - 2013.05.13 16:49:00 - [159] - Quote LT apparition wrote: So... Do we Submit a Help Ticket to Get the Optional Respec? on the 14th ??? i'm not sure where to petition Game Masters.. why not give it to everyone? or give option at startup? Petition approach is a nightmare!
Arkadious CloneVer2 RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 16:51:00 - [160] - Quote How do I petition for a respec for after the skill point adjustment mentitioned

SAMPSON YOLO Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 17:38:00 - [161] - Quote A little off topic. I lost my basic militia sentinel (the one with the forge) when the last reset come about.. so now i have no basic militia fit to speak of.. Any chance those of us who chose our specific race and class to get the aforementioned drop suit, might be able to get some compensation?! i.e a 'Skinweave' heavy suit ?!
BL4CKST4R WarRavens Orion Empire 48	Posted - 2013.05.13 18:01:00 - [162] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: About the respec, I think that making it optional is a bad idea, for two reasons: * First, not everyone will know they have that option: - Most people don't come to the forums, so they can't learn about the optional respec from reading them. - A lot of people are not in corps, so they won't learn about the optional respec from corpmates. - Some people don't even read their mails or the chats, so they won't learn about the optional respec from those either. But all those players may have wasted sp due to wrong descriptions on items and skills in the game, and deserve the possibility to respec their sp if they do so desire. * Second, it is making things more complicated than they should be. Why waste the time of both the players and the GMs? Players will have to go through the hassle of making a petition, and the GMs will waste a lot of time processing hundreds of such petitions. Keep it simple and give everyone a full respec. tell your friends :)
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2013.05.13 18:47:00 - [163] - Quote I have. Nonetheless, since I can't tell everyone, I still think that everybody getting a respec without needing to petition for it, would be faster, easier and prevent future problems for CCP.
reydient The Vanguardians Orion Empire 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 19:19:00 - [164] - Quote CCP, I feel that the goal of playing dust has been lost due to the new skill tree. 1.) this new tree makes being a logi extremely difficult to achieve 2.) majority of the logi suits I've seen on the battle field are bing used for assult purpose ... I've even had buddies say " I tanked into logistics because I get more high and low slots for armour and shield tanking . This makes me vomit because then they use a proto AR to gun me down. If your going to be a logi heal don't kill. 3.) becuse of the skills nobody cares about taking over the next turf. I am not asking you to give me everything fast but it would nice to feel I can contribute to planetary conquest with more than my water bottle and towel that took me 2.1 million sp to get
WR3CK HAVOC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 22	Posted - 2013.05.13 19:47:00 - [165] - Quote can we respec our race too now that it affects your starter fits?
machine3 Comunidad PlayStation ES 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:00:00 - [166] - Quote Niceee Niceee!!!! Ready for 14-¬ :D
CSM Kaeden Thule D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:09:00 - [167] - Quote For the love of god please give us another respec!
Sjem'Tolk Mercenaries On Duty 2	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:10:00 - [168] - Quote reydient wrote: CCP, Thanks for making a great game, especially one that is free, and in depth, this game has levels and forces you to think and organize , utilize teamwork etc, its not your COD or BF and i am greatful, although this last week i have felt that it has been less DUST and more COD . Q1.) I have some serious confusion about what a reimbursement is versus an optional respec. can you clarify ? Also, no pressure, but dates and notification of these changes would be super nice. Statement ) The big appeal to this game was that from the beginning you could begin your path to which ever role from character creation ( logi , assult, supply , sniper , heavy ) , I am a logi / DS pilot .I decided to join Minmatar for the premade medic class. I see that my artificer suit has been taken from me. I see that my CPU and PG bonus have been been removed and now I am force to skill 2.1 million points into drop suits to have a logistics suits. Worse off, I joined a corporation as a PROTO logi and promised to be a good logi and now I nothing more than a glorified water body who never has the right tool. What is the reason behind these changes ? Why must i be stripped of my artificer suit? Q2.) why do i need to get gallante vehicle command to level 5 before i can get a logistics drop ship? Would it not be better to allow we early access to ships but which each level increase the properties i.e 5% movement bonus on gallante ships. Ill be honest dropships and pilots do not get love. Ive been flying a Gallante DS for a while with militia gear and all my squads love me but at the end of the day I shouldn't have to tank 2.1 million points to get a dropship when its going to get knocked out of the air the same as a militia. However I LOVE THE Q3.) if i need dropsuit levels to skill into vehicles can you bring back the CPU and PG bonus associated with that :-) makes flying better. Statement.) I understand dust is a long term commitment like eve, so it does not bother me that i need to tank loads of SP into skills and that it may take months of grinding to achieve these skills. I want to say that i have access to less now than i did before. This is frustrating. Even with aurum i do not have access to as many items. I would like a skill respec , but honestly if the skill points are going to remain this high it may not matter, Ill just put a passive booster once a month until christmas and go enjoy life and if people are still playing at this time I should be able to contend and fulfill my commitment as a logi I agree with much here, as I have spent that and more $ for becoming a Sniper, yet now I am no longer really worth much to my team. I used to be able to have my scout suit carry a nanohive and a droplink, and if you look at the majority of suits now, I can carry a single infantry item. You have not made any reall good changes for someone trying to become a sniper, so I feel that all my SP was wasted. The game was fun and I looked forward to playing every chance, now it has become less fun, and feel that the money I spent was a waste for the short 2 months that I have been playing. I do hope you do some real considerations for dropsuits. One other point, I spent some SP and money to try out your Active Scanner, and it really sucks. How about giving a sniper the ability to add an active scanner to his scope (and possibly give us a choice of scope for our SR's) rather than making every SR have the lousy scopes that they currently have.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 23:33:00 - [169] - Quote SAMPSON YOLO wrote: A little off topic. I lost my basic militia sentinel (the one with the forge) when the last reset come about.. so now i have no basic militia fit to speak of.. Any chance those of us who chose our specific race and class to get the aforementioned drop suit, might be able to get some compensation?! i.e a 'Skinweave' heavy suit ?! Boyo u was compensated for all special stuff by ISK and everything was respected back. You basicaly dont lost anythingie, you just must start again. All ISK and SPs were resended back :)
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 44	Posted - 2013.05.13 23:34:00 - [170] - Quote Ok, they REALLY need to tell us how to respec. Else, they made us miss our chance. I really need it, and they're going to give an answer too late and I (Prolly everyone else that wants a respec) will be sad. :(

Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 23:43:00 - [171] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: Ok, they REALLY need to tell us how to respec. Else, they make us miss our chance. I really need it, and they're going to give an answer too late and I (Prolly everyone else that wants a respec) will be sad. :( Send them message, they should answer you :)
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 44	Posted - 2013.05.14 00:03:00 - [172] - Quote Uh... How? xD
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 0	Posted - 2013.05.14 00:07:00 - [173] - Quote WR3CK HAVOC wrote: can we respec our race too now that it affects your starter fits? i think no, but try to send them message, or start like me from scratch (Mag comrade :D )
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 0	Posted - 2013.05.14 00:08:00 - [174] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: Uh... How? xD to CCP eterne :)
JDEZ09 Dark Side Alliance 1	Posted - 2013.05.14 00:11:00 - [175] - Quote Everything is going okay on my end so far. This is coming from your standard proto assault grunt that puts in work (kills) for the win. I notice that the lighter I am, the better &faster I aim. This makes sense, keeps armor tankers from hitting me. Now I do happen to be an Amarr assault, didn't favor going for the complete shield reliance like the caldari. Which brings me to my request. Blueprint suits are a great investment in DUST 514, I purchased a lot of them in the last build to test the waters of different dropsuits. What I would like to know is it you gentlemen at CCP are planning on blueprint suits for each race. An Amarr blueprint equivalent for the assault would be cool because I am dedicating all of my SP into Amarr all the way. It would seem a bit non productive to have to spec into another race just to benefit from the cheap suit builds that blueprints provide. Say my dropship pilot requests for a gunner and I'm about to spawn in. I wouldn't want to have to always use my perishables for support roles like that, so blueprints for each race sounds pretty fair. It also gives yall the chance to use another cool and unique color scheme for these new suits. I think that the community would agree.
HeyScotty JesusMan Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.05.14 00:46:00 - [176] - Quote Sign me up for the respec.
Verdia DeMosays Shooting Red Crosses 0	Posted - 2013.05.14 00:52:00 - [177] - Quote I tend to agree with some of the previous posters, that the respec has been rather harsh on Logistics. With the 3.2 mil SP that I have on Verdia, I was able to spec into the support skills necessary to operate this playstyle, but unable to advance my logistics suit skills past a basic area. With needing weaponry, assault rifles ( something worth shooting, imo), dropsuit upgrades, electronics, nanocircuitry, upinks, and obviously remote repair, there was a choice to be made. I could get that, and be an effective force on the battlefield, or get level 5 on logi suits and be largely ineffective. I would really like to see some of the prerequisites for dropsuits reduced to make them a bit more accessible, since they are almost prohibitively expensive to get into, compared to before the last talent reset. In the previous build I had skill level 4 logistics suits, and was almost into 5, with more skills in side abilities than I have now. so... TL;DR: I would love a talent reset for 5/14, and a reduction in SP requirements for advanced suits. My reasons are above = P
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 0	Posted - 2013.05.14 01:08:00 - [178] - Quote HeyScotty JesusMan wrote: Sign me up for the respec. Send them message boyo :)
PADDEhatpigen BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 9	Posted - 2013.05.14 01:39:00 - [179] - Quote I know a few players that would really like a respec. did any one get try to get a respec ? did any one get a respec ? who do we contact and how ? when can we expect it ?
Rough Galaxy S.e.V.e.N. Gentlemen's Agreement 0	Posted - 2013.05.14 01:41:00 - [180] - Quote I see that there is some information on the opening screen when you start dust that mentions an optional respec. But as per usual no information about how it will actually be implemented has been provided. CCP we need solid info on how this respec is acquired or you need to make it a mandatory respec for everyone. Stop beating around the bush and just give us the info we need.



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