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are skillbooks we bought be getting refunded? It was mentioned in Merc Cast that we would get our ISKies for skills we bought so we could rebuy them. Clarification would be great. TY

Additionally, we will be offering to all players that purchased the Mercenary Pack or Aurum Packs before January 22nd an optional full character reset with Mercenary Pack or Aurum reimbursement. If you choose an optional character reset, all character attributes, skills, skill points, and wallet will be reset to zero, but the Mercenary Pack(s) (including applicable Aurum) and/or Aurum pack(s) will be added back to the account for re-use within Uprising.

FIRST

are skillbooks we bought be getting refunded? It was mentioned in Merc Cast that we would get our ISKies for skills we bought so we could rebuy them. Clarification would be great. TY

Are we seriously supposed to be able to read this.

Bahahaha. So glad they did this.

You need to open it with a spreadsheet viewer, such as Excel, in order to see it properly.

You need to open it with a spreadsheet viewer, such as Excel, in order to see it properly.

But read with excel option doesnt pop up like it does with the skill tree

But read with excel option doesnt pop up like it does with the skill tree

I know, they're in two different formats that web browsers handle differently.

The skill ranks on the database dump look incorrect. They don't match the the skill tree version. Can we get an update to that since it includes all skills? Thanks for the data!

Since i have 90day of boosters (active/passive) queued up will they remain still queued up and untouched?

Hmm, I'm not sure which is right. Sadly, I won't have the answers before Uprising due to it being the weekend.

You need to open it with a spreadsheet viewer, such as Excel, in order to see it properly.

Why don't I have the option to download this file? It keeps trying to open as a web app in .csv format but won't display anything but jibberish (yes I have excel installed). Is this fixable?

Right click and save file as. I don't know why web browsers try to open this file format, just because you can display it as plain text doesn't mean you should.

This is a comma seperated value file. It uses commas to delimit what should be in each cell, therefore when you download it you can open it with Excel (you should also ensure that Excel delimits only on commas, not spaces or any other character).

Why did you use 2 diff formats then?

Why don't I have the option to download this file? It keeps trying to open as a web app in .csv format but won't display anything but jibberish (yes I have excel installed). Is this fixable?

As such, the items in your Assets will be removed, and their ISK/AUR value at the time of the respec will be put back into your in-game wallet

Consider, for example, the duvolle and killswitch assault rifles. The former costs rougly 53k ISK, while the latter is 50 AUR, and they have similar stats except that the killswitch has lower skill requirements. Now suppose we consider them similar enough to do a conversion. We thus have 1 AUR = 1k ISK. Now, for $20, you can obtain 40,000 AUR. Converted, that means $20 = 40 mil ISK. In EVE you can purchase a PLEX and sell it on market to gain a bit over 500 mil. That means that there is a discrepancy in values of a factor of 10.

Probably a question whose answer is bleedingly obvious by now, but I want to be clear. Dev blog states:


But "time of the respec" is ambiguous, since the respec occurs during Uprising deployment, and presumably prices of some items will change too. So does this mean prices just before deployment, or just after?

I am guessing the answer is obviously that it means the prices before deployment, because later in the blog it says "CURRENT ISK value" and "current AUR value", but I'd like to be clear :)

Why don't I have the option to download this file? It keeps trying to open as a web app in .csv format but won't display anything but jibberish (yes I have excel installed). Is this fixable?

Does anyone know if you have to complete all the ranks in a previous skill to move on down the tree?

I'm assuming based on screen shots I have seen different skills paths have different requirements for forward movement.

Is it sad that the highlight of my week is a bunch of spreadsheets? When's EVE the tax editor coming out? :D

Respec FAQ:
Q: Will items that are no longer purchasable in the expansion persist such as the Sagaris or Surya?
A: These will be refunded to you at their current market price.

And what about items that will still exist in Uprising, such as the two dropships? Will those items' ISK values be paid to us if we have those dropships in our inventory?

As such, the items in your Assets will be removed, and their ISK/AUR value at the time of the respec will be put back into your in-game wallet. This allows you to immediately retrain skills and repurchase items to remake your fittings and go to battle.

Really good, I think we have all the keys to wait for monday afternoon !!!

Q : Can you confirm that TVU purchased in the market AND activated will be refund if not consume completly ?
I mean, some of my mate bought a year or 2 of TVU, activated them all, are they gonna be refund ?


Thanks to all CCP's team for the awsome work, can't wait to see the result IG (as servers stability ;)) !!!

Mr Gloo Gloo

Currently active UVTs are removed from users and their AUR value refunded

I asked on IRC if AUR BPO gear would be refunded at the current marketprice as well.

The answer was that it will, so people will get millions of AUR for all of those BPO items they bought back when they were like 100 AUR each.

Are we seriously supposed to be able to read this.

We definitely need to know what skill level unlocks the next branch in the tree to make our plans.

what time and how long will the tranquility server be down ?

I asked on IRC if AUR BPO gear would be refunded at the current marketprice as well.

The answer was that it will, so people will get millions of AUR for all of those BPO items they bought back when they were like 100 AUR each.

Did you just make the skill tree for idiots?

Not impressed.

So you need level 5 of something to move to the next level? Are you kidding me? So I can't decide to customize my character with a little extra 3% of this and a extra 2% of that because I am to stupid to understand how to read a list? You just completely took the Eve out of this game if thats the direction you are going... I can't even think of words on how disappointed I am at this change. It's like you made everyone more generic and added training time. Here this is the "path" you take let me hold your hand to skill you to these weapons...

Additionally, we will be offering to all players that purchased the Mercenary Pack or Aurum Packs before January 22nd an optional full character reset with Mercenary Pack or Aurum reimbursement. If you choose an optional character reset, all character attributes, skills, skill points, and wallet will be reset to zero, but the Mercenary Pack(s) (including applicable Aurum) and/or Aurum pack(s) will be added back to the account for re-use within Uprising.

CCP Eterne, can you confirm that all instances of militia BPOs that a player owns will be refunded at current market prices? Because it would be very dissapointing if that was the case.

Making ISK from market opportunities that arise in Eve/Dust is all fine and good. But giving out AUR worth thousands of real life $$ to players just because they bought a stack of militia BPOs for the price of a single merc-pack in January definitely crosses a line.

I really hope CCP considered that when making their plans for refunding items. Imho, there is no point in refunding more than one BPO of each type, since a player can't use more than one anyway. All extra BPOs were bought clearly with the intent of never using them, so why refund them because of the skill change?

Imho, there is no point in refunding more than one BPO of each type, since a player can't use more than one anyway

CCP Eterne, can you confirm that all instances of militia BPOs that a player owns will be refunded at current market prices? Because it would be very dissapointing if that was the case.

Making ISK from market opportunities that arise in Eve/Dust is all fine and good. But giving out AUR worth thousands of real life $$ to players just because they bought a stack of militia BPOs for the price of a single merc-pack in January definitely crosses a line.

I really hope CCP considered that when making their plans for refunding items. Imho, there is no point in refunding more than one BPO of each type, since a player can't use more than one anyway. All extra BPOs were bought clearly with the intent of never using them, so why refund them because of the skill change?

You dont need lvl 5 to get the next skill in the tree, check the dev blog and it shows this, however we dont know how many points are needed in each item to unlock another in the tree

Q: What will happen to my Officer items after the Respec?
A: Existing officer items will be returned to your characterGÇÖs inventory after the Respec.

All ISK items will be cleared from Assets and their CURRENT ISK value added back to wallet
In addition to this, we also have a list of items (new and old) that you can expect to see in the Uprising update as well here

I don't think you should be refunded for dropships you received in salvage because you have no intention of using them. Just you though, everyone else is cool.

Yes. All consumed boosters stay consumed and unchanged :)

I am not happy about this. I have over 120 days of injected boosters (which I have not already gained any SP from) that will apparently not be refunded. Why on earth would I want 50% booster when you now have 100% boosters?. Yes I can buy the new Omega boosters and they will be added to the front of the queue, but this means that the 120 days worth of boosters already injected will NEVER be used!!!!!

The only way to use the booster I already have is to actually gain less SP for three months?????? Seriously, WTF???

CCP Eterne, can you confirm that all instances of militia BPOs that a player owns will be refunded at current market prices? Because it would be very dissapointing if that was the case.

It means the prices at the time of deployment. If we have changed any prices, those will be the prices used.

Making ISK from market opportunities that arise in Eve/Dust is all fine and good. But giving out AUR worth thousands of real life $$ to players just because they bought a stack of militia BPOs for the price of a single merc-pack in January definitely crosses a line.

Now I'm confused. I.e. the Balac's GAR-21 AR is an officer weapon and will be returned to our inventory. due to QA while the Dev Blog states that all ISK-items will be removed and the excel-sheet in the link clearly shows an ISK-value of 126.495 for the Balac.

So my question is: will officer weapons be purchaseable? Dev Blog and spread sheet say yes but QA says no.

It means the prices at the time of deployment. If we have changed any prices, those will be the prices used.

My personal policy is to never buy or inject more than a month's worth of anything when a game is in beta just to avoid these kinds of issues.

It means the prices at the time of deployment. If we have changed any prices, those will be the prices used.

After buying a booster, it cannot be traded, it cannot be sold, it can't be used for anything other than being injected. Much the same as the days remaining in the implant queue, they can't be traded or sold. There was absolutely no difference in keeping that time in one form vs another, other than convenience if I happened to forget to inject a new booster after the old one expired. Until now...

Now I am told that one form will be refunded and the other one will not. At least in eve it gives you a warning telling you that, once you inject a booster, it cannot be removed without destroying it.

No type of boosters will be refunded, not the ones in your assets and not the ones already injected (it's stated in the Dev blog). No reason to be upset, we all have to use up the boosters that we already bought.

With regards to the following, I cannot complain, since I purchased mine on the cheap. And this post is probably too quick since it is based on an assumption that BPO prices are going to be lowered in Uprising (that's my expectation). But here goes anyway. Some people have purchased, for example, blueprints for 19,800 AUR (or whatever it is), thinking along the lines "it's quite expensive, but I do use it a lot. I can afford maybe one bpo, so I'll make it the dropsuit".

Now suppose that the price is permanently lowered by half in Uprising, when not on sale. This person is refunded around 10k AUR. Now, post patch, this person finds that in CCP's pursuit of finding that sweet spot pricing, he's paid twice the real world money for the same item as others (or alternatively, they get two for the price of one). That is their reward for trusting the pricing structure, and supporting the game during beta. I don't imagine these people will be happy.

Of course, as I said, this is based on the assumption that prices go down. And again, I can't complain much, as I paid the cheap price. And I understand the reasoning. The customer agreed on a price with CCP, and received goods. CCP is now giving them a currency which allows them to get exactly that item back, or use the AUR for something different (added value!). And if any AUR prices go up, you can't reimburse them the pre-patch prices, because then they won't receive enough AUR to replace their goods. So post patch pricing makes the most sense from this perspective.

So I see the reasoning, and I can't complain, but I suspect some will be unhappy if I am right about a significant BPO price drop (and as a guess, I wouldn't be surprised if you divide BPO costs by 10!). It seems a bit rough for that crowd that purchased these expensive BPO's, and now finds that their reward for beta support is to have others given a cheaper price. But we shall see, after Monday, I suppose.

Edit: If this is something to worry about, I suppose the solution would have been to reimburse at pre-patch prices if they are higher, or post patch prices if those are higher. But perhaps that is rather generous, and I am not completely unbiased!

CCP Eterne, can you confirm that all instances of militia BPOs that a player owns will be refunded at current market prices? Because it would be very dissapointing if that was the case.

Making ISK from market opportunities that arise in Eve/Dust is all fine and good. But giving out AUR worth thousands of real life $$ to players just because they bought a stack of militia BPOs for the price of a single merc-pack in January definitely crosses a line.

I really hope CCP considered that when making their plans for refunding items. Imho, there is no point in refunding more than one BPO of each type, since a player can't use more than one anyway. All extra BPOs were bought clearly with the intent of never using them, so why refund them because of the skill change?

I just did a quick calculation and for a Proto logi in current build in the Uprising build will need at least 13,991,400 sp now that is with proto hives/injector, proto rep tool, up to the dropsuit armor upgrades and dropsuit electronics and engineering lvl 5 and dropsuit Shield lvl 5 and 1 weapon of operation to lvl 5 (this assumes all skills before these final skills are also lvl 5) , 14,613,240 with explosives at lvl 5 without even touching the demolitions and grenadier skills

Sounds like plain pure envy.
Note that AUR is not real life cash. It is virtual currency bought with real life cash. Thru AUR and PLEX isk is also a virtual currency bought with real life cash.

Are you expecting prices to stay the same forever and ever?
It is natural that one year ago something costed more, now half of it. In a year it might be a quarter.

One could argue that the one who got it year ago has gotten to use it already for that time.

CCP to only allow MERC PACK resets for prior purchases before Jan. What about all the 20k vouchers?
I have a feeling there will be a LOT of pissed off players tomorrow.
I don't think im willing to invest 2 more months just to unlock the one suit I use. FK THAT! 14mill sp.
The 11mill sp I have now wont even unlock it.
I guess we will know tomorrow. It was nice knowing you guys!

And there is the difference that similar opportunities in EVE arise out of the actions of other players on the in-game market, triggered by the changes made to the game. In this case however, it is a direct intervention by CCP. And they would be generating millions of AUR out of thin air, as opposed to EVE where every plex you buy on the market was paid in cash by another player (not to mention that there is no ISK to AUR transfer in DUST yet).

I thought the Merc Pack was supposted to reset when we went alpha ? I reckon the Aurum spend on dropssuits etc is going to be spend ?

Just had a look at the spreadsheet and I can't believe the decisions behind the ability to use different dropsuits.

Dropsuit Command should unlock:

Light

Medium

Heavy

THEN you specialise by race. As it stands after uprising you will see no diversity from match to match as players who want proto gear will only be able to spec into one suit.

Another problem with this is that the little guy gets the sharp end of the stick again. Players with 10mill + SP are going to have no problem getting into a proto suit and proto gear then stomping us as is the current situation.

You can't complain about both the lack of a reset for players who purchased merc packs after January and the high SP price of the new skills. If the SP is so high, then you wouldn't accept a reset anyway, and if the merc pack/Aur reset was so important to you, then you wouldn't be complaining about the couple months it's going to take just to get a few million more SP, because it would take a lot longer than that to get the 11 million you have now back after they reset it to 0.

Also 11 million SP unlocks any suit easily if you go directly into it. I'm not sure where you're getting 14 million from.

as i know, no, it will not.

Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.

A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.

We hope everyone understands this decision.

Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.

A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.

We hope everyone understands this decision.

Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.

A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.

We hope everyone understands this decision.

What about for characters we don't use? Can I have it reset or will it be all three characters on that PSN?

I didn't buy multiple copies, but I dont use those characters and have 60,000-100,000 AUR tied up in them. I was looking forward to putting that to good use.

Seems like you guys could at least refund 1 copy of each BP per character.

I had big dreams of skilling up 3 characters, but realized I'd have to give up my wife and kids to do so.

Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.

A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.

We hope everyone understands this decision.

So wait, you ARE going to skill up 3 characters?

Yes, the post that follows may sound like qq'ing! But I must assure people that I am not.

I just have big concerns about the claim that "we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people". Dust 514 has been promised to not be pay to win. IF you say that millions of AUR gives "a hugely unfair advantage", then you are saying that Dust 514 is pay to win.

Some people in the world are wealthy enough to easily purchase millions of AUR. To get 1 mil AUR is $500, which is for no doubt a few lucky-in-life Dust 514/EVE players easy to give up. Are you saying that these people are given "a hugely unfair advantage"? More precisely, a "hugely unfair advantage" that you are not willing to give to poorer players who happened to take a (very minimal) risk on a potential to get some of this fortune themselves that they can't match with real world funds?

I honestly don't mind the decision in general. I, like others, took the risk. If it pays off, I will be happy and gloat. If it doesn't, I've lost little. But the justification given here has very worrying implications.

I choose no reset

I keep my SP and ISK and everything else, im so happy

Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.

A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.

We hope everyone understands this decision.

Yes, the post that follows may sound like qq'ing! But I must assure people that I am not.

I just have big concerns about the claim that "we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people". Dust 514 has been promised to not be pay to win. IF you say that millions of AUR gives "a hugely unfair advantage", then you are saying that Dust 514 is pay to win.

Some people in the world are wealthy enough to easily purchase millions of AUR. To get 1 mil AUR is $500, which is for no doubt a few lucky-in-life Dust 514/EVE players easy to give up. Are you saying that these people are given "a hugely unfair advantage"? More precisely, a "hugely unfair advantage" that you are not willing to give to poorer players who happened to take a (very minimal) risk on a potential to get some of this fortune themselves that they can't match with real world funds?

I honestly don't mind the decision in general. I, like others, took the risk. If it pays off, I will be happy and gloat. If it doesn't, I've lost little. But the justification given here has very worrying implications.

Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.

A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.

We hope everyone understands this decision.

The "hugely unfair advantage" comes from this:

If you wanted to take advantage of the market and buy up BPOs before market prices went up, then good on you. However with the Aurum refund, many of these people would be getting millions of Aurum back (and yes, I mean millions).

Where as people who didn't do that or just bought what they intended to use, they would be getting back what they need to replace. Which I believe is what CCP intended.

Anyways, to boil it down, it would be if you and I purchased a merc pack. Only I get 19 million Aurum while you get only 40,000 Aurum.

Not really a pay to win scenario but rather a unbalanced reward for something that was meant to replace.

Hello CCP this may have been over looked during your inspection of the new skill tree and skill books but heres a few things that have been over looked;

Vehicle modules: Shield boosters and extrenders need the DROPSUIT UPGRADES, DROPSUIT SHILD EXTENDERS. As this is for vehicles I don't see the reason why we would need INFANTRY things for vehicles. This is also for vehicle SHIELD BOOSTERS.

Stairs; I and a few members have noticed that while running up stairs you glitch into them or you are unable to jump unless this is made like this.

If these are not suppose to be here then can you please fix it ASAP for this is kinda unfair to tank drivers in my corp who have infantry going tank lol

I had hoped you'd leave "all" of my BPOs alone :P

and of course my specialty and pack items.

but good to know that at least my militia BPOs will still be there.

o/
Bill

I've completely messed up in my respec. Will there be another respec before launch or is there something that can be done besides to just dealing with it?

Still glad you'll have to spend 6 million SP to use your BPO suits? Unless your lucky enough that the race you chose was one of the same for your BPO?

I'm so glad you didn't have to push a few buttons to buy them again.

+1 here. I didn't do my homework, since I was out of town during the reset. I immediately skilled up for meta 4 suit and a light weapon. Poof! There went 5M SP and I couldn't set up my formerly maxed tanking skills. Oops. If you see a merc in a fancy suit that dies after two good hits, that be me... Back to grinding. I'd like to see a skill reset on launch. Call it a trial period for the new skill tree...

+1 here. I didn't do my homework, since I was out of town during the reset. I immediately skilled up for meta 4 suit and a light weapon. Poof! There went 5M SP and I couldn't set up my formerly maxed tanking skills. Oops. If you see a merc in a fancy suit that dies after two good hits, that be me... Back to grinding. I'd like to see a skill reset on launch. Call it a trial period for the new skill tree...

I bought what I intended to use

Why the hostility man?, it doesn't make a fuckin bit of difference what I wanted anyway, CCP was going to do what they were going to do regardless, so if you wanna ***** or cry about it, do it to them, not me FFS.

Q: For those electing a character reset for the Mercenary Pack, would additional items outside the mercenary pack would be reissued? Such as Beta Rewards and Tournament Prizes.
A: Extraordinary items such as from events and beta rewards will persist after Uprising.

yes please ccp, another reset

PLEASE!!! The suits skill set-up confused me, and I spent over 3 mil on the gallente medium, wanting the race bonus. However, I didn't know that you had to level up the basic dropsuit skill before getting the assault/logistics suits. PLEASE REALLOCATE AGAIN. I don't want to spend 8 weeks of my life getting that sp back.

And also, a guide to how the dropsuit skill tree works would have been helpful.

Yeah that guide is coming out mid April 2013. With it perhaps you wouldn't have made that mistake. Either way its your fault and you are just going to suck it up and grind on.

shhh the module is fine its also give u more heal when u dont feel using tank and want to be infantry for fun! if u ask them to chnage for 2 different skills u still need to add skill pint for vehicle module away

So vehicle skills req infantry skills and you think this is broke.... then why train into it then and demand a skill reset? You could have waited a bit to see if CCP would fix this issue or find out its what they intended. It would not have been hard to run around in milita gear for a bit (including your tanks and drop ships) while this issue was addressed.

Ya but you can read the pre-req to a skill before you train into it, including the ones you can not access until said skills are trained.

Yes, by your definition of "Logic" we should also train Light -> Medium -> Heavy Dropsuit in order to go into Specialization, & in order to be a Logi you would first have to have Dropship @ 5.... Might I advise against you ever procreating???

he definitely should not be hasin kids nynja could set the human race back a few centuries.

Because it doesn't make any sense that people are defending the actions of CCP in this case. It really doesn't.

I bought those BPOs so that in certain situations I could be versatile to my team. At the beginning of matches I could use a scout suit to run up and hack points. I never really used the raven suit, but I did buy it (on two characters). The sever suit I can't use because I chose to go Caldari and the sever is minmitar.

The REASON for the respec was to keep people from having gear that they can't use because of the more specific skilling that the racial variants brought with it.

It's simple. I'm hostile because there are a ton of people that are defending the actions of CCP when it is blatantly obvious that it .

regardless you should have refunded, there is no way i need all these blueprints now. you just kept my money is all

Is there already any information when we will be able to do the merc pack respec?

There seems to be lots of unhappy people, as usual after a patch.

However, if we go into Commercial Release (think about what that means CCP) with pre-existing players holding onto 3-10m SP, it will not look at all good for the new players. As far as I am aware this has never happened, there is always a full reset of Beta testers at release.

Please don't make the mistake of peeving off potential new players. Turning up on the first day and being stomped by a blob of reds with Prototype gear would only be hilarious to a complete loser (on the red side).

Beta testers knew what they were getting when signing up, including a full reset at launch. Pandering to a noisy and selfish minority is not a great way to start. Its a great way to finish though.

You sir I am afraid, are a moron. Anyone who owns a PS3 has had access to this game since open beta when all of us whom were playing the closed beta's skills were reset to 0. Your argument would only be reasonable if you also made the attempt to then say that once ever X months we all be reset to 0 as there may be new players playing with us that will not be equal to us who had played during those X months.

CCP may be calling 5/14/13 their "release date", but this game was released several months ago.

the merc pack reset is not a respec, it is a reset. = your character with 0.0 sp. Not what I imagine you want. Please push for a skill reset this 14th. Don't stop until it happens.

Please push for a skill reset this 14th. Don't stop until it happens.

This is thebest advice! EVE players say CCP is responsive to their customers, so this should be our request. There are a few reset threads on the forum. Find the larger threads and add your comments there.

Hopefully CCP will take it onboard. If not, the each player will decide wether to carry on depending on how bad his/her situation is. But by the sounds of it, many people are not happy.

AFK your way until you hit 20m :)

How does one do the Mercenary Pack respec & what exactly happens? Also can I keep my SP AND reset my character? I would like to change from Gallente(My MAIN reason fro these questions)...

It already took place...

No you can't keep your SP and make another character. CCP doesn't likes you HTFU

Watch how you speak to me 'Lady' - I'm not one of your 'kid' friends ok? -.-

You go girl, way to stand up for yourself +1 like to you

How does one do the Mercenary Pack respec & what exactly happens? Also can I keep my SP AND reset my character? I would like to change from Gallente(My MAIN reason fro these questions)...

The Respec already happened, though we are asking CCP for another one.
The RESET is an option given to those who bough the mercenary pack before January. You will have an option to erase your character, get your mercenary pack Aur, items, a booster from the pack and start fresh. 0sp. More details will be coming soon from CCP.

My biggest concern: CCP gives us a respec, and then we never see another heavy.

Fix heavies first, and the caldari Logi, AND the skill tree, THEN give us the respec.

I'm looking around and browsing this thread and others to see what is changing of the skill tree progression or whatever and not finding anything, can someone give me the link or tell me exactly whats changing?


thank you very much

they are reducing some SP requirements for the race specific suits i believe. if you are specced into any skills that they are reducing requirements for you will be refunded the difference. Also vehicle skill descriptions will be corrected. Once these skill changes happen they will also begin the optional SP respecs, and full resets for those who have requested them. Check the announcements forum for full details. Don't worry so much about it, you'll know in the patch notes when you first log on whether they've done it yet or not.

Also you could always just check back here. There are bound to be 354354254 amount of people who wil complain as soon as any changes are made. ^_^

Hi all, Just wondering I heard in chats that we would get a choice to re-spec our Skills/Isk (another reset) this week if we ask them too ? But I need a ticket (as was mentioned above) How do I do that.??
And hopefully I get the other 30k of AUR they didn't replace and my 30 day booster too.. lol
Any help would be appreciated :)
Thanks Weppan..

i send help ticket , hopefully they got it

I actually think I might quit playing this game, if they don't follow through with the skill respec.........

You want someone to beg you to stay?

You and all your kind are worthless wastes of space, wastes of oxygen... stop stealing my oxygen, your brain isn't outputting enough power for how much you take in... your obsolete like a brick sized cell phone

I month, hell a week is way too long to wait for a skill point refund. There is no reason to wait for the new skill tree because it has nothing to do with mislabeled skills. They can refund SP for the mislabeled ones now, and the new skill tree will be dealt with later, which will affect all players.

For CCP to say they are waiting for the new skill tree is simply irresponsible and disrespectful to the players.

CCP has totally screwed over faction warfare for the lifespan of this game because they did not refund SP for mislabeled (and wrong prereq) skills BEFORE planetary conquest started. PC has already started and a lot of players where forced to have a disadvantage because of CCP's massive error. This means whoever controls whatever districts at the end of the day may not be the ones who SHOULD have controlled them.

This screw up at the start will forever affect the future of PC. It costs a whole lot more to attack a district than to defend one... think about that for a minute and consider how different the results could have been if the skill tree wasn't backasswards...

Epic Fail.... should be CCP's subtitle.

If a new skill tree is on its way then it makes sense for ccp to hold out on the skill respec. The reason is cause after that change, I'm sure even more people, us included, will want anouther repec. I can be patient for a bit longer.

Any news yet on how much longer we need to wait to enjoy the game again if we screwed up with our first respec? I tried so hard to spend every point correctly, I even spent my alts skills and played a bit on them before spending the sp on my main, from playing on my alts I noticed heavies were over nerfed, that was my role of choice, but noticing the nerf I went with the assault rifle, and this gun is no fun to me at all, I went from averaging 20+ kills a match to being lucky if I go 12/10, its a totally alien style of play to my barbarian smash style, and I knew that when I picked it, really didnt want it, but as it was stronger than the HMG at that time, I thought I could make it work, but huge mistake, espescially with you guys working on hmg dmg now, and I for one need that respec to be able to enjoy myself again, and Im sure its not just me, so please CCP dont make us wait too long

You do not sound smart making comments like that... obiously to anyone with even half a brain you sound like a fool trying desprately to be tough. Well your not tough, your just another fool.