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10mg PLUMBUM
Academy Inferno
254
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:16:00 -
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Rapidae wrote:I thought the Merc Pack was supposted to reset when we went alpha ? I reckon the Aurum spend on dropssuits etc is going to be spend ? as i know, no, it will not. |
10mg PLUMBUM
Academy Inferno
254
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:19:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:Just had a look at the spreadsheet and I can't believe the decisions behind the ability to use different dropsuits.
Dropsuit Command should unlock:
Light
Medium
Heavy
THEN you specialise by race. As it stands after uprising you will see no diversity from match to match as players who want proto gear will only be able to spec into one suit.
Another problem with this is that the little guy gets the sharp end of the stick again. Players with 10mill + SP are going to have no problem getting into a proto suit and proto gear then stomping us as is the current situation. Balance as for now not working at all, i mean in one battle you can find proto players.
I have 11 mil so as for now, it's not interesting to play with "noobs". So ccp dont decide this problem. |
10mg PLUMBUM
Academy Inferno
254
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:22:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:GOTDUST wrote:CCP to only allow MERC PACK resets for prior purchases before Jan. What about all the 20k vouchers? I have a feeling there will be a LOT of pissed off players tomorrow. I don't think im willing to invest 2 more months just to unlock the one suit I use. FK THAT! 14mill sp. The 11mill sp I have now wont even unlock it. I guess we will know tomorrow. It was nice knowing you guys! You can't complain about both the lack of a reset for players who purchased merc packs after January and the high SP price of the new skills. If the SP is so high, then you wouldn't accept a reset anyway, and if the merc pack/Aur reset was so important to you, then you wouldn't be complaining about the couple months it's going to take just to get a few million more SP, because it would take a lot longer than that to get the 11 million you have now back after they reset it to 0. Also 11 million SP unlocks any suit easily if you go directly into it. I'm not sure where you're getting 14 million from.
Our corporation have man which have 15 million, Only yesterday checked, man played 24/7
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Rapidae
Sire 514 Silent Requiem
6
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:30:00 -
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10mg PLUMBUM wrote:Rapidae wrote:I thought the Merc Pack was supposted to reset when we went alpha ? I reckon the Aurum spend on dropssuits etc is going to be spend ? as i know, no, it will not.
Thats a shame then, with the suits i bought and the changes in skills for dropsuits half my spend aurum is useless now. CBA to skill in different races different sizes. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
1494
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:04:00 -
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Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision. |
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Torr Wrath
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
201
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:12:00 -
[96] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision.
It saves me the time of buying them all back :) |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
360
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:24:00 -
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lol |
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Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:25:00 -
[98] - Quote
LOL |
Zaria Min Deir
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:44:00 -
[99] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision. *facepalm* This really didn't occur to you until now? Really? The QQing about this will be epic... |
Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
5
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:47:00 -
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Wow. I can't believe you never even thought about that, being a possible exploit.
Good thing some of you are reading the forums |
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Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
19
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:58:00 -
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Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
136
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:32:00 -
[102] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision. What about for characters we don't use? Can I have it reset or will it be all three characters on that PSN?
I didn't buy multiple copies, but I dont use those characters and have 60,000-100,000 AUR tied up in them. I was looking forward to putting that to good use.
Seems like you guys could at least refund 1 copy of each BP per character.
I had big dreams of skilling up 3 characters, but realized I'd have to give up my wife and kids to do so. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
19
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:43:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision. What about for characters we don't use? Can I have it reset or will it be all three characters on that PSN? I didn't buy multiple copies, but I dont use those characters and have 60,000-100,000 AUR tied up in them. I was looking forward to putting that to good use. Seems like you guys could at least refund 1 copy of each BP per character. I had big dreams of skilling up 3 characters, but realized I'd have to give up my wife and kids to do so. So wait, you ARE going to skill up 3 characters? |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
54
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:46:00 -
[104] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision.
Yes, the post that follows may sound like qq'ing! But I must assure people that I am not.
I just have big concerns about the claim that "we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people". Dust 514 has been promised to not be pay to win. IF you say that millions of AUR gives "a hugely unfair advantage", then you are saying that Dust 514 is pay to win.
Some people in the world are wealthy enough to easily purchase millions of AUR. To get 1 mil AUR is $500, which is for no doubt a few lucky-in-life Dust 514/EVE players easy to give up. Are you saying that these people are given "a hugely unfair advantage"? More precisely, a "hugely unfair advantage" that you are not willing to give to poorer players who happened to take a (very minimal) risk on a potential to get some of this fortune themselves that they can't match with real world funds?
I honestly don't mind the decision in general. I, like others, took the risk. If it pays off, I will be happy and gloat. If it doesn't, I've lost little. But the justification given here has very worrying implications. |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
137
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:53:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision. What about for characters we don't use? Can I have it reset or will it be all three characters on that PSN? I didn't buy multiple copies, but I dont use those characters and have 60,000-100,000 AUR tied up in them. I was looking forward to putting that to good use. Seems like you guys could at least refund 1 copy of each BP per character. I had big dreams of skilling up 3 characters, but realized I'd have to give up my wife and kids to do so. So wait, you ARE going to skill up 3 characters? Lol, no. My wife would leave me if I played this game any more that I already do. I've been wondering why the pool boy is around so much as it is. |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
137
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:57:00 -
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Winsaucerer wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision. Yes, the post that follows may sound like qq'ing! But I must assure people that I am not. I just have big concerns about the claim that "we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people". Dust 514 has been promised to not be pay to win. IF you say that millions of AUR gives "a hugely unfair advantage", then you are saying that Dust 514 is pay to win. Some people in the world are wealthy enough to easily purchase millions of AUR. To get 1 mil AUR is $500, which is for no doubt a few lucky-in-life Dust 514/EVE players easy to give up. Are you saying that these people are given "a hugely unfair advantage"? More precisely, a "hugely unfair advantage" that you are not willing to give to poorer players who happened to take a (very minimal) risk on a potential to get some of this fortune themselves that they can't match with real world funds? I honestly don't mind the decision in general. I, like others, took the risk. If it pays off, I will be happy and gloat. If it doesn't, I've lost little. But the justification given here has very worrying implications.
I agree, it's another case of them not thinking something through. I don't think paying customers should be the ones that suffer. They get all excited when they see New Eden drama play out, but when they are the ones that get "Eve'd" they just change the rules. It's bush league IMO.
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
501
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Posted - 2013.05.06 14:30:00 -
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Sweet. Better late than never, i sez. |
Osmant Asasi
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:09:00 -
[108] - Quote
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Quote:Additionally, we will be offering to all players that purchased the Mercenary Pack or Aurum Packs before January 22nd an optional full character reset with Mercenary Pack or Aurum reimbursement. If you choose an optional character reset, all character attributes, skills, skill points, and wallet will be reset to zero, but the Mercenary Pack(s) (including applicable Aurum) and/or Aurum pack(s) will be added back to the account for re-use within Uprising. Bahahaha. So glad they did this. I choose no reset I keep my SP and ISK and everything else, im so happy
What would be the advantage of the reset? |
bcs1a
ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse
15
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:17:00 -
[109] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision.
I had hoped you'd leave "all" of my BPOs alone :P
and of course my specialty and pack items.
but good to know that at least my militia BPOs will still be there.
o/ Bill
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Ares Atticus
New Eden Protection Agency Ironworks Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:33:00 -
[110] - Quote
Here is a nice in detail pdf on the skill guide for your downloading pleasure.
http://www.justbeamit.com/xpbud |
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Rapidae
Sire 514 Silent Requiem
6
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:28:00 -
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So here i am having 5 mill + skill points given back. There where i used to have the possibility to yse both my Raven and Sever Dropsuits I know have to invest over more than half of my skillpoints to actually acces one of them. For they require atleast lvl V in racial!
I haven't even started to use my skills in anything other at this moment and i used to have assault Spec 3 as well as some decent vehicular skills.
So what will happen with the dropsuits spend in aurum (20k+) which i will not be able to use for a damn long time!
I feel a bit kicked in the balls here |
Ran Karnal
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:43:00 -
[112] - Quote
As for the official release, I suppose we won't have another SP refund/respec for the 5.14? |
Commander Dizzle
Closed For Business
1
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:53:00 -
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I've completely messed up in my respec. Will there be another respec before launch or is there something that can be done besides to just dealing with it? |
Kram Ennett
R.I.f.t Orion Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:36:00 -
[114] - Quote
So now I'm stuck with my Sever BPO that I have to invest serious SP into when the whole reason I got it in the first place was not needing to invest many SP into a decent logi suit. Awesome. |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
167
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:37:00 -
[115] - Quote
Winsaucerer wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision. Yes, the post that follows may sound like qq'ing! But I must assure people that I am not. I just have big concerns about the claim that "we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people". Dust 514 has been promised to not be pay to win. IF you say that millions of AUR gives "a hugely unfair advantage", then you are saying that Dust 514 is pay to win. Some people in the world are wealthy enough to easily purchase millions of AUR. To get 1 mil AUR is $500, which is for no doubt a few lucky-in-life Dust 514/EVE players easy to give up. Are you saying that these people are given "a hugely unfair advantage"? More precisely, a "hugely unfair advantage" that you are not willing to give to poorer players who happened to take a (very minimal) risk on a potential to get some of this fortune themselves that they can't match with real world funds? I honestly don't mind the decision in general. I, like others, took the risk. If it pays off, I will be happy and gloat. If it doesn't, I've lost little. But the justification given here has very worrying implications. The "hugely unfair advantage" comes from this:
If you wanted to take advantage of the market and buy up BPOs before market prices went up, then good on you. However with the Aurum refund, many of these people would be getting millions of Aurum back (and yes, I mean millions).
Where as people who didn't do that or just bought what they intended to use, they would be getting back what they need to replace. Which I believe is what CCP intended.
Anyways, to boil it down, it would be if you and I purchased a merc pack. Only I get 19 million Aurum while you get only 40,000 Aurum.
Not really a pay to win scenario but rather a unbalanced reward for something that was meant to replace. |
Stexn byd
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
13
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:46:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision. So along with not living up to the refund promise in the merc packs of getting all items and AUR back on release... your saying that it really is pay to win and I spent over $200 dollars supporting a game under false pretense? Yeah IDK if I can reach the dagger in my back from here.... |
Stexn byd
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
13
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:48:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Winsaucerer wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, a brief update. We will not be refunding any Militia BPOs, but rather returning them to your inventory.
A number of you brought up the very real possibility that people would get millions of AUR refunded because at one point they were selling for much less and after further consideration, we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people.
We hope everyone understands this decision. Yes, the post that follows may sound like qq'ing! But I must assure people that I am not. I just have big concerns about the claim that "we realized this would give a hugely unfair advantage to these people". Dust 514 has been promised to not be pay to win. IF you say that millions of AUR gives "a hugely unfair advantage", then you are saying that Dust 514 is pay to win. Some people in the world are wealthy enough to easily purchase millions of AUR. To get 1 mil AUR is $500, which is for no doubt a few lucky-in-life Dust 514/EVE players easy to give up. Are you saying that these people are given "a hugely unfair advantage"? More precisely, a "hugely unfair advantage" that you are not willing to give to poorer players who happened to take a (very minimal) risk on a potential to get some of this fortune themselves that they can't match with real world funds? I honestly don't mind the decision in general. I, like others, took the risk. If it pays off, I will be happy and gloat. If it doesn't, I've lost little. But the justification given here has very worrying implications. The "hugely unfair advantage" comes from this: If you wanted to take advantage of the market and buy up BPOs before market prices went up, then good on you. However with the Aurum refund, many of these people would be getting millions of Aurum back (and yes, I mean millions). Where as people who didn't do that or just bought what they intended to use, they would be getting back what they need to replace. Which I believe is what CCP intended. Anyways, to boil it down, it would be if you and I purchased a merc pack. Only I get 19 million Aurum while you get only 40,000 Aurum. Not really a pay to win scenario but rather a unbalanced reward for something that was meant to replace. Um... logic loss. You were supposed to get back what you put into it, if we bought millions of AUR and had it in the account then that would be stripped in your twisted definition of "fairness" which I believe would be wrong as well.
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machine3
Comunidad PlayStation ES
0
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:28:00 -
[118] - Quote
I love Uprising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is very work team CCP *.* |
Rapidae
Sire 514 Silent Requiem
6
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:41:00 -
[119] - Quote
I share the opinion of the posters above me. We were promised to get the stuff back when all got to alpha. I invested my share in merc packs. And especially witht he skill changes I cannont use 2 out of 3 of the 20k Aurum dropsuits i bought.
I do hope CCP will take the aurum items back and replace them with the spend aurum. For as far as i am already frustrated that i can only do half the things i used to with this skill change. Im sure as hell if they already start not living up to their promised before alpha iom sure as hell not going to invest any more time in this let alone the money i was eager to put in it.
so let ccp come up with an official comment. |
DUST TAKE OVER
Silver Talon Corporation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:56:00 -
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Hello CCP this may have been over looked during your inspection of the new skill tree and skill books but heres a few things that have been over looked;
Vehicle modules: Shield boosters and extrenders need the DROPSUIT UPGRADES, DROPSUIT SHILD EXTENDERS. As this is for vehicles I don't see the reason why we would need INFANTRY things for vehicles. This is also for vehicle SHIELD BOOSTERS.
Stairs; I and a few members have noticed that while running up stairs you glitch into them or you are unable to jump unless this is made like this.
If these are not suppose to be here then can you please fix it ASAP for this is kinda unfair to tank drivers in my corp who have infantry going tank lol
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