I use AR's primarily, and AR's are fine. Its not a bad thing that AR's are no longer unbeatable, its ok for other weapons to be as good. Just get use to it, and it will be eventually be just fine. I actually find AR's more fun now, and I have been doing much better than before.

I use AR's primarily, and AR's are fine. Its not a bad thing that AR's are no longer unbeatable, its ok for other weapons to be as good. Just get use to it, and it will be eventually be just fine. I actually find AR's more fun now, and I have been doing much better than before.

Actually Heavies are supposed to win a 1v1 match (to my knowledge), it should be the case that multiple people have to band together to take one heavy down not the other way around.
Of course there are things like maneuverability that might allow a single person to outsmart bull. .. i mean, a heavy in 1v1. But if you have an open field and a heavy on one side and 2-4 not heavies on the other side (all with equal equipment levels), then the heavy should win by mowing the group down in a matter of seconds.
Thats the most enjoyable part about encountering heavies. Distracting them without getting yourself killed, so that another player can flank him from the side / behind and deal massive damage.

About AR themself:
I have seen people playing perfectly fine without AR's. There are too many different weapon types to say "This one and single type of weapon is THE ONE TYPE of weapon the whole game is centered around"

And to be slightly trolling at the end:
You want to play "every other game?" You are free to play CoD.

Edit:
*shivering at the thought that quick scoping is THE WAY to play sniper*

to me ARs are not balanced at all did you not read the print where CCP said that recoil increased with the more damage you took? that was said a long time ago. Sure some of you think ARs are "balanced" but they only seem that way cuz they decreased the map sizes and made them more "COD" like. im fearing when they increase map sizes even more than the way they were b4, weapons like mass drivers and laser rifles and of course snipers will be the go to

I also doing better than before with AR (Exile AR). This make me wonder about raise of complains on AR.

I also don't agree with OP that we should have one weapon which is good in all situations. Each weapon should have their strengths and weakness. It looks so better when battlefield is filled with ARs, LRs, MDs, HMGs and shotguns. It's much better than ARs everywhere.

they were always beatable, Marton's laser rifles killed the crap out of me, Blondie's HMG wrecked me, Sleepy's snipers gave me a hard time. people just need to practice more

they were always beatable, Marton's laser rifles killed the crap out of me, Blondie's HMG wrecked me, Sleepy's snipers gave me a hard time. people just need to practice more

I read all the patch notes. I've used ARs from Replication as my 'MAIN' weapon. All the variants, etc... ARs are better and more balanced. The maps are actually bigger on some, and you can be outranged wielding an AR, so your map size issue is mute.

Snipers will always be a factor on large, flat maps... Mass Drivers are best if you have them in narrow corridors. In the open, dodging Mass Driver Charges is easy... haven't been killed by a Mass Driver this build yet while in the open. Conversly, if I hug walls and use cover, I haven't been sniped. Still wield my trusty AR, and still get Positive KDR... and can even hit at range... Just can't empty an entire clip on that one single point.

Tactical ARs were hit hardest by the recoil, I agree, but they now can't be abused by modded controllers. And still do a fair amount of damage. Now, hoever, the increase headshot modifier is your best friend with the tactical. Tap their head, they go down fast. Beofre you could triple tap they're leg and kill them with a tactical in a scarce few seconds.

no the maps are alot smaller im sorry, they shrunk every map to make the ARs work better with their nerf. and MDs are the new weapons of choice i just spec in my first few this morning and they are beast at killing any and everything including vehicles, you havnt seen them used by good players just wait

well if the heavies were intended to win every 1v1 then why dont we all just play heavies? that sounds like the best way to play this game right? im sorry but i dont think they were intended to 1v1 and 1v4 by themselve thats too easy

G-Slick,

My personal opinion is as follows and is by no means fact.

1.) Close Support is MY job along with all my Logi Brothers. The Heavy Dropsuit was designed to wade into a group of unfriendly players and deliver judgment upon them. An assault dropsuit should not be able to drop a Heavy at Mid-Range in a one vs. one fight unless there are some other gameplay aspects that weigh into the encounter (such as flanking, elevation, and fit.). It's my personal average that a Heavy should be able to get the drop on and take around 3 people if they are good. 4-5 if they have support. If a Heavy wades into a group of people looking at him and proceeds to walk into open ground he will not survive. He may get 2 kills but he won't get the third unless the enemies he's attacking can't aim for kitten.

2.) Laser Rifle's were good against everything at long range. Assault Rifles and Sniper Rifles were it's only competition but that's not what the nerf was about. Like i said in another post, the Assault Rifle was the easiest weapon to use with no recoil and ungodly accuracy. It's the Jack of all trades weapon but it bested everything it came up against save a rare few. And against those rare few, it was easy to turn the tables by entering the range at which they could not.

3.) Hill Snipers exist in every game, and if they don't move they get shot. That is still the case with every weapon and i STILL do it with my Assault rifle with the only difference being that i have to get closer now, and that may require me to go a bit out of my way. I once fired 3 Mass Driver payloads at a Hill Sniper in rapid succession and all three landed while he was trying to shoot at me, and they killed him before he had a chance to get up and move to a new location. Hill Snipers will pay for not moving one way or another. The range at which an Assault Rifle could hit a Sniper was insane. no other weapon could compare.

4.)They are not god weapons. They are difficult to aim, useless in some situations, have bullet travel time, and CAN GET YOU KILLED IF YOU KITTEN UP! Before, Mass Drivers had 4 shots to a clip in standard versions and it required ALL 4 shots to hit in order to kill somebody. A one on one fight with a Mass Driver user was over if they missed once and the only way to use them effectively was in large groups. The only thing the bigger clipsize did was make them more viable as a weapon when alone. It's hardly a God Weapon.

I agree Completely that CCP messed up on the AR nerf. They needed a kick, but with the current damage and way sights work it's all just a mess. It's my personal belief that:

-They decrease the damage on Basic Assault Rifles, while giving them more kick and giving less kick as you move up.

-They slightly increase Damage on Burst Rifles while slightly lowering Kick

-Don't think anyone cares about Breach Variants

-Remove Kick from Tactical Rifles, while giving them a slightly lower rate of fire.

Thoughts?

this ^^^
I have seen you play this build your good, very good.
and I'm sorry but yea TAR need recoil otherwise someone who has a fast index finger (Because its not like shooting a real SA rifle) can have a STD AR that does the damage of a ADV etc.

get used to the changes man

Another "my dust is no longer generic AR fest" thread? sure, go ahead. seems it is too hard to actually try to learn the game... or god forbid try different weapons or variants.

i have tried plenty of weapons man i have been playing this game longer than you have ARs were fine every build till now. When you people got into the game you thought it needed a nerf. and now im using MDs and burst u happy?

Just because someone could kill you with a different weapon does not mean that weapon was as good as the 1 you used, player skill plays a large part.
Go get a calculator, do do DPS stats, and damage per magazine stats with the AR and other weapons. I did the math for the mass driver compared to the AR, and the AR beat the mass driver by a lot, plus the mass driver takes more skill to use because of the arc; the MD magazine size buff was warranted.
Before the AR could encroach upon the laser rifle's long range niche because of its similar range, but now it takes skill for AR users need skill to pull off long range kills.

There is a reason why ARs were used so much before; they were good at close, medium, and long range (with sharpshooter skills). Its a good thing that they aren't so perfect anymore. Just because its an FPS doesn't mean it should be a generic AR-fest.

listen i agree ARs could use a small recoil but they didnt have to add, recoil, damage nerf, iron sights only all at the same time