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G-SLicK wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

G-SLicK wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

I use AR's primarily, and AR's are fine. Its not a bad thing that AR's are no longer unbeatable, its ok for other weapons to be as good. Just get use to it, and it will be eventually be just fine. I actually find AR's more fun now, and I have been doing much better than before.

they were always beatable, Marton's laser rifles killed the crap out of me, Blondie's HMG wrecked me, Sleepy's snipers gave me a hard time. people just need to practice more

Just because someone could kill you with a different weapon does not mean that weapon was as good as the 1 you used, player skill plays a large part.
Go get a calculator, do do DPS stats, and damage per magazine stats with the AR and other weapons. I did the math for the mass driver compared to the AR, and the AR beat the mass driver by a lot, plus the mass driver takes more skill to use because of the arc; the MD magazine size buff was warranted.
Before the AR could encroach upon the laser rifle's long range niche because of its similar range, but now it takes skill for AR users need skill to pull off long range kills.

There is a reason why ARs were used so much before; they were good at close, medium, and long range (with sharpshooter skills). Its a good thing that they aren't so perfect anymore. Just because its an FPS doesn't mean it should be a generic AR-fest.

you people dont seem to realize that MDs will kill any AR now, they do way more damage, they have range similar to a sniper, they are easier to use than ARs. i mean every time i hit you with splash your aim gets knocked off center. ARs did need a recoil but not nerf to be worst than all the other weapons


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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.20 09:19:00 - [1] - Quote I use AR's primarily, and AR's are fine. Its not a bad thing that AR's are no longer unbeatable, its ok for other weapons to be as good. Just get use to it, and it will be eventually be just fine. I actually find AR's more fun now, and I have been doing much better than before.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.20 09:36:00 - [2] - Quote G-SLicK wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I use AR's primarily, and AR's are fine. Its not a bad thing that AR's are no longer unbeatable, its ok for other weapons to be as good. Just get use to it, and it will be eventually be just fine. I actually find AR's more fun now, and I have been doing much better than before. they were always beatable, Marton's laser rifles killed the crap out of me, Blondie's HMG wrecked me, Sleepy's snipers gave me a hard time. people just need to practice more Just because someone could kill you with a different weapon does not mean that weapon was as good as the 1 you used, player skill plays a large part. Go get a calculator, do do DPS stats, and damage per magazine stats with the AR and other weapons. I did the math for the mass driver compared to the AR, and the AR beat the mass driver by a lot, plus the mass driver takes more skill to use because of the arc; the MD magazine size buff was warranted. Before the AR could encroach upon the laser rifle's long range niche because of its similar range, but now it takes skill for AR users need skill to pull off long range kills. There is a reason why ARs were used so much before; they were good at close, medium, and long range (with sharpshooter skills). Its a good thing that they aren't so perfect anymore. Just because its an FPS doesn't mean it should be a generic AR-fest.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.20 09:48:00 - [3] - Quote I was a strong believer that MDs needed bigger magazines, but I think the recoil impact effect when being hit should be removed; its not needed, and annoying.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.20 09:52:00 - [4] - Quote gameplay/balance before realism. Mass driver doesn't need this extra advantage.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.20 10:02:00 - [5] - Quote G-SLicK wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: G-SLicK wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I use AR's primarily, and AR's are fine. Its not a bad thing that AR's are no longer unbeatable, its ok for other weapons to be as good. Just get use to it, and it will be eventually be just fine. I actually find AR's more fun now, and I have been doing much better than before. they were always beatable, Marton's laser rifles killed the crap out of me, Blondie's HMG wrecked me, Sleepy's snipers gave me a hard time. people just need to practice more Just because someone could kill you with a different weapon does not mean that weapon was as good as the 1 you used, player skill plays a large part. Go get a calculator, do do DPS stats, and damage per magazine stats with the AR and other weapons. I did the math for the mass driver compared to the AR, and the AR beat the mass driver by a lot, plus the mass driver takes more skill to use because of the arc; the MD magazine size buff was warranted. Before the AR could encroach upon the laser rifle's long range niche because of its similar range, but now it takes skill for AR users need skill to pull off long range kills. There is a reason why ARs were used so much before; they were good at close, medium, and long range (with sharpshooter skills). Its a good thing that they aren't so perfect anymore. Just because its an FPS doesn't mean it should be a generic AR-fest. you people dont seem to realize that MDs will kill any AR now, they do way more damage, they have range similar to a sniper, they are easier to use than ARs. i mean every time i hit you with splash your aim gets knocked off center. ARs did need a recoil but not nerf to be worst than all the other weapons You're really overdoing the hyperbole. Do you know how much damage a AR can do from just 1 full second of firing? Standard basic AR does 387.5 damage per second. You're seriously saying using a weapon whose shots travel in an arc that you must predict where it will land is actually easier than just bullets instantly hitting where you point your gun? You're seriously saying ARs are worse than any other weapon? Even the nova knife which is basically an inferior closer range shotgun that you have to charge? You seriously just compared the range of a mass driver to a sniper rifle.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.20 10:21:00 - [6] - Quote Do you know the chances of actually hitting anyone with a mass driver at that range? You have to predict where the arc will end, and account for moving targets, the mass driver rounds are really slow. A STANDARD basic AR (not advanced or prototype), that's right, a STANDARD AR can do 387.5 damage in ONE SECOND. That is more menacing than a prototype MD doing 350. 200+ round damage from an MD is not impressive compared to that, especially considering the extra difficulty of actually landing a direct hit. Keep in mind there is a MUCH higher chance of landing a direct hit then with an AR then with an MD since AR shots just go where you point.