whats wrong with you and your corp? who are you? we are the beta testers of this game, we were told to talk about what we did and didnt like so WE could make this game better. gtfo of here you new comer

If you want to be that specific, then why is this in general discussion instead of feedback, i have been here for a few builds now. I am not a newcomer, i dislike that ccp holds newcomers hands by making the game easier for them to survive in, but still. When they touch my forge guns everyone celebrates when the nerf wasn't really needed. But when they touch the AR, people get mad.

Why?

And i read like 5 pages of the thread and realised it was pretty much repeating from there on.

i dont know what all the fuss is about. I can still go 26-1 on skirmish with a assault rifle. I know how to control the recoil on AR's and im not going to tell you how i do it. But one thing i can say its experience from COD games and some observations that ive made to counter the recoil. Its not that hard if you figure it out but oh well fully auto spray and pray scrubs.

26 kills in skirmish wow you're good. if I don't drop 40-50 kills in skirmish i'm playing badly. I'd probably wreck you on COD.

lol not my fault when my team is actually capable and get kills aswell. But i bet i would have way more WP in a match then you do. Im not just doing kills, i provide my team with ammo and im even a good medic and revive people who are in my range and i get points for hacking aswell. And dont be silly lag compensation would benefit your dialup on COD. And you guys aint that good i still remember how easy it is to melt you guys with a laser. You have the reaction time of a turtle pal.

lol not my fault when my team is actually capable and get kills aswell. But i bet i would have way more WP in a match then you do. Im not just doing kills, i provide my team with ammo and im even a good medic and revive people who are in my range and i get points for hacking aswell. And dont be silly lag compensation would benefit your dialup on COD. And you guys aint that good i still remember how easy it is to melt you guys with a laser. You have the reaction time of a turtle pal.

Its not a nerf, its called Balance. Somthing that was actually needed with AR's

lol not my fault when my team is actually capable and get kills aswell. But i bet i would have way more WP in a match then you do. Im not just doing kills, i provide my team with ammo and im even a good medic and revive people who are in my range and i get points for hacking aswell. And dont be silly lag compensation would benefit your dialup on COD. And you guys aint that good i still remember how easy it is to melt you guys with a laser. You have the reaction time of a turtle pal.

If find it ironic, that is the topic doesn't deal with your precious tank or vehicles, your are 100% against against anything for altering and listening to feedback; yet when your specialization is brought up, you hardheartedly agree with it no matter how bad of an imbalance it is.

Part of being a beta test is giving UNBIASED feedback, which you seem incapable of doing. Its a lets make vehicles stronger and not nerf them to you; or lets make anything that doesnt deal with my vehicles less effective.

This topic isn't simply about the AR anymore; but contains several "problems" that has spawned since Chromo went live.

1). Loss of AR scope: you even said it don't make you better, so there is no harm in having it back. The main reason many want it back is so you can see who you are aiming at, at a distance; as well as knowing if someone is in your effective range (as ever other gun in the game has this feature easily noticeable ingame but the AR now). You (dark cloud), even said this isn't game breaking, thusly shouldn't have needed to be removed as it doesn't alter how the weapon handles, it just allows it to be used as it should, at MEDIUM range with effectiveness.

2). Damage centralization: by making basic/militia weapons have more damage and reducing damage of adv/proto; it brings things closer together, which is a BAD thing. Now that the exile is about on part w/ the duvolle, there isn't a reason to skill into AR's to use the duvolle, or if already have, to even run in for cost reasons. This doing also for the pistol, smgs, etc. Why run a proto smg, when w/ weaponry lv5, the toxin does the same amount of damage? Do you think putting 610k SP for an extra 2 points is really worthwhile? The damage centralization, has reduced the need for better gear, making SP all but useless into guns, unless you want the passive bonuses they 'give".

This also brings to light the still bad spawning in ambush; as it allows spawns to determine fights more then before. IF you're running proto gear, and get spawned infront of a guy in basic w/ an exile; b/c of damage centralization he has a MUCH better chance of killing you, and you are less likely to be able to turn on him and counter w/ a gun that is better (and should be for SP required to get it). This takes away from player ability, and allows randomness to have more of an affect on gameplay scenarios.

3). Map reduction. With some maps being reduced in size, it causes centralized fighting, mostly CQB situations. This has turned the game into longer duration CoD battles of hipfire. The need for accuracy of ADS has been drastically reducled; leading the way to more MD usage. Ideally smg's should excel here but dont, b/t of lack of damage across the board (could be helped by flipping OP/Prof skilling)

All in all, this isn't a full "complaint" on AR's, but a more broad topic, that by changing one or two features; affects the entire gameplay spectrum

You're a parameter player. You hide on the outskirts of the map with a laser. Set up a corpbattle I was in the pen during the tournament and never got the pleasure of collecting the sweet tears of SI.

Dude i run tanks barely this build and ive stopped to complain about it. Now about the following things:

1.) you can tell if you are in range by looking on the radar on the top left corner. Another way is when you aim at somebody the game tells you the efficency rating. When that doesnt even show up you are totally out of range

2.) The damage has beeing closed up because lower skilled players should have a chance in killing you. This game is mainly a FPS and with that it had to be balanced. Just think about the players who can barely run standard stuff. They just keep getting punished by players with high end gear with no chance. This results in frustration. And if somebody gets frustrated they might drop the game and never come back. Which is in CCP's eyes a loss of potential money

3.) Personally i enjoy the closer maps. Its called ambush (TDM) and every 1 was annoyed that most of the players sit on a mountain with a sniper rifle. And i like fast paced matches. And if you have problems with the spawns use a drop uplink like i do. 2 gauged uplinks and the whole team can spawn on them. (yes i can confirm it that uplinks are fixed now)


its called playing smart. Do you think i go close quarters with a weapon that is not effective on that range? If you believe that then you have a serious issue with your mind. And why should i set up a corp battle? Do you really need your friends to do any good? And you probs didnt got involved in the corp matches simply because you would have dragged the imperfect team down.

beating sha kharn aint something to brag. This here is his first FPS game on the PS3 cause he is mainly a Eve guy. Well if you kindly ask him he eventually accept it. Well you deffo sound like one of those sore COD kids who demand allways a 1vs1.

1). Loss of AR scope: you even said it don't make you better, so there is no harm in having it back. The main reason many want it back is so you can see who you are aiming at, at a distance; as well as knowing if someone is in your effective range (as ever other gun in the game has this feature easily noticeable ingame but the AR now). You (dark cloud), even said this isn't game breaking, thusly shouldn't have needed to be removed as it doesn't alter how the weapon handles, it just allows it to be used as it should, at MEDIUM range with effectiveness

Well that's the sad part because sha kharn is like your best player. *facedesks*

Hmm i bet you never played against Edrot. And since when does a CEO has to be the best player in the corp?

Doesn't have to be, but he is, which is sad.

Doesn't have to be, but he is, which is sad.

There's 3 guys from SI in front of you on the leaderboard - U got nothing to brag about #17...

I finally get to see AR users whine. Hows it feel to be on the end of the nerf stick? I'm so happy I could cry.

Actually Sha is the best player on this beta, he is always on top of the leaderboard every build thats may sounds normal for vets FPS player but the fact dust 514 is his first FPS makes him even better than them whom have long experience with FPS games.

Am not into drama and childish fights but i feel bad for those who down-talk Sha without knowing him, he is a good person and definitely a great leader don't forgot this is only a game, in real life your nothing special or better than the next guy.

@Ulath there are many decent SI players but most of them are not playing the beta or having other characters testing different stuff, SI is about having fun with friends we don't like dramas thats why you don't see us posting and boasting around.

lol @ COD's kids mentality
"I am better person than you because i can kill you 1000 time with my virtual rifle"

Oh snap, total kills doesn't matter. It's all about W/L, oh wait I'm number 1 at that! Who would of guess. I love seeing all these terrible kidz think that total kills matter, doesn't matter if you can't win a game.