DUST Search - A great build is horrible because of this one thing!!!!

G-SLicK wrote:

Deskalkulos Ildigan wrote:

Actually Heavies are supposed to win a 1v1 match (to my knowledge), it should be the case that multiple people have to band together to take one heavy down not the other way around.
Of course there are things like maneuverability that might allow a single person to outsmart bull. .. i mean, a heavy in 1v1. But if you have an open field and a heavy on one side and 2-4 not heavies on the other side (all with equal equipment levels), then the heavy should win by mowing the group down in a matter of seconds.
Thats the most enjoyable part about encountering heavies. Distracting them without getting yourself killed, so that another player can flank him from the side / behind and deal massive damage.

About AR themself:
I have seen people playing perfectly fine without AR's. There are too many different weapon types to say "This one and single type of weapon is THE ONE TYPE of weapon the whole game is centered around"

And to be slightly trolling at the end:
You want to play "every other game?" You are free to play CoD.

Edit:
*shivering at the thought that quick scoping is THE WAY to play sniper*

well if the heavies were intended to win every 1v1 then why dont we all just play heavies? that sounds like the best way to play this game right? im sorry but i dont think they were intended to 1v1 and 1v4 by themselve thats too easy


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Deskalkulos Ildigan CrimeWave Syndicate 115	Posted - 2012.12.20 09:23:00 - [1] - Quote Actually Heavies are supposed to win a 1v1 match (to my knowledge), it should be the case that multiple people have to band together to take one heavy down not the other way around. Of course there are things like maneuverability that might allow a single person to outsmart bull. .. i mean, a heavy in 1v1. But if you have an open field and a heavy on one side and 2-4 not heavies on the other side (all with equal equipment levels), then the heavy should win by mowing the group down in a matter of seconds. Thats the most enjoyable part about encountering heavies. Distracting them without getting yourself killed, so that another player can flank him from the side / behind and deal massive damage. About AR themself: I have seen people playing perfectly fine without AR's. There are too many different weapon types to say "This one and single type of weapon is THE ONE TYPE of weapon the whole game is centered around" And to be slightly trolling at the end: You want to play "every other game?" You are free to play CoD. Edit: shivering at the thought that quick scoping is THE WAY to play sniper
Deskalkulos Ildigan CrimeWave Syndicate 115	Posted - 2012.12.20 09:45:00 - [2] - Quote G-SLicK wrote: Deskalkulos Ildigan wrote: Actually Heavies are supposed to win a 1v1 match (to my knowledge), it should be the case that multiple people have to band together to take one heavy down not the other way around. Of course there are things like maneuverability that might allow a single person to outsmart bull. .. i mean, a heavy in 1v1. But if you have an open field and a heavy on one side and 2-4 not heavies on the other side (all with equal equipment levels), then the heavy should win by mowing the group down in a matter of seconds. Thats the most enjoyable part about encountering heavies. Distracting them without getting yourself killed, so that another player can flank him from the side / behind and deal massive damage. About AR themself: I have seen people playing perfectly fine without AR's. There are too many different weapon types to say "This one and single type of weapon is THE ONE TYPE of weapon the whole game is centered around" And to be slightly trolling at the end: You want to play "every other game?" You are free to play CoD. Edit: shivering at the thought that quick scoping is THE WAY to play sniper well if the heavies were intended to win every 1v1 then why dont we all just play heavies? that sounds like the best way to play this game right? im sorry but i dont think they were intended to 1v1 and 1v4 by themselve thats too easy Thats why i added maneuverability as a factor for "you might be winning 1 v 1 against a heavy. If you're a scout. And circle around him fast enough so that he won't catch you". What i meant to say is: If a heavy and 2-4 not heavies run straight at each other, the heavy will win. They are the powerhorse or tank if you so wish, and with their minigun, heavies are more than capable of decimating an average player (which i count myself as) in split seconds. It's not impossible to win 1v1 against heavies, it is just very unlikely. To be fair i have to mention that my K/D ratio is "poor" (~0.5), but i still end up being in the top 5 of my team quite regularly warpoint wise. Edit: Why not all play heavies? Heavies are easy targets, they are slow as hell, and they don't have the necessary slots to be of any use as a triage unit. This game is not solely centered around killing your opponent (well except for ambush, there it is all kill or get killed). Different suits offer different benefits. Scouts are good to drop uplinks, logistics are good to heal, repair and hack, Assaults are the jack of all trades, and Heavies are good at decimating groups of enemies / tanks singlehandedly. Good luck trying to run to the front to drop an uplink with a heavy. By the time you are at the position a scout will have sniped there for a minute, dropped uplinks, been killed, accidentally chosen the wrong spawnpoint and then run again to the hill.