A lot of AR users managed not to notice that every other weapon's Prototype versions had their damage values reduced, and think their high-tier ARs have been given a damage nerf when they've just seen the same change as everything else in the entire game.

and if YOU haven't noticed; we have been saying it was an AR nerf b/c the topic at hand was AR's; but we do know the nerf was across board as i've been saying in LOTS of topics now. The new damage scheme no longer makes proto weapons as effective and as worthwhile as they were before; as the same abillities can be achieved by basic/adv gear

I'm actually finding the AR 'nerf' so much better...

They still have the range, the damage, and rate of fire capabilities, they just handle differently with the recoil. So you only burst fire, not unload full clips, or (as you said) fire the TAR -faster- thatn the ordinary AR... which was not it's intended purpose, and was easily exploitable by people who did use the modded controllers.

ARs are now balanced. And tbh, as an AR user myself, they feel sooo much better and more badass.

A lot of AR users managed not to notice that every other weapon's Prototype versions had their damage values reduced, and think their high-tier ARs have been given a damage nerf when they've just seen the same change as everything else in the entire game.

"optional scopes" and "weapon customization" don't work for games that already have so many variables that alter weapon performance. CCP should keep things simple and offer the camera sights we already have along with ironsights.

This game already offers enough customization we don't need more. Rather than adding customization CCP should focus on increasing the player count.

They are "focusing on player count" by making us ALL play with iron sights....you guys sound like a bunch of sissys complaining sbout the iron sights BUT YOU'RE SO GOOD RIGHT....FPS GODS RIGHT?Then why does it phase you at all....cuz yer fkn exploit mod controller using bitches...Dont try to act like yer some fuking self rightous expert on FPS shooter games you fkn hack....WHHAAAA MY CREO WHAAA MY TAC WHHA IRON SIGHTS....fuckin grow up you winey *****.....What game doesnt have muzzle rise these days for a gun that does more damage or slowere ROF....WOW this is fking hilarious.....dont see you guys talking all the **** about a 25 million dollar corp match now do I? scrub

They are "focusing on player count" by making us ALL play with iron sights....you guys sound like a bunch of sissys complaining sbout the iron sights BUT YOU'RE SO GOOD RIGHT....FPS GODS RIGHT?Then why does it phase you at all....cuz yer fkn exploit mod controller using bitches...Dont try to act like yer some fuking self rightous expert on FPS shooter games you fkn hack....WHHAAAA MY CREO WHAAA MY TAC WHHA IRON SIGHTS....fuckin grow up you winey *****.....What game doesnt have muzzle rise these days for a gun that does more damage or slowere ROF....WOW this is fking hilarious.....dont see you guys talking all the **** about a 25 million dollar corp match now do I? scrub

Lol umad?

Lol umad?

Lol, most of you should be seriously embarrassed by this thread.

Nonfactor forum trash posting incompetent troll responses.

Where's CCP's thoughts on all this and there reasonings - we can say whatever we like and it could be true or supported by biased opinions, it really doesn't matter if CCP had a plan all along for what they've done and we don't understand it.

and I had no idea about AR proto nerf.

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I got one more thing to say before i leave this QQ whine ***** fest thread..
if you WERE so bad ass with the TACS before and you didnt use modded controlers and they have scopes now...... then ....
whats the problem?

STFU,HTFU AND ADAPT OR DIE

Lol, most of you should be seriously embarrassed by this thread.

Nonfactor forum trash posting incompetent troll responses.

Mid level (at best) players talking themselves up and raging at Imperfects indirectly for reasons that have nothing to do with AR.

Having played with and against G-slick he is a way better player than most anyone in this thread.

Take Away Message - You're bad and you should practice more at both forum and this videogame.

Keep posting.

Lol you should be seriously embarrassed by this thread.

Nonfactor forum/Imperfect trash posting incompetent troll responses.

Mediocre (at best) player talking himself up and raging at others indirectly for reasons that have nothing to do with AR.

Having played with and against G-slick he is a somewhat better player than most anyone in this thread, although using Proto all the time does help.

Take Away Message - You're bad and you should practice more at both forum and this videogame.

Please stop posting.

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No, I FTFY. You idiots are trolling your own thread and then perpetuating the trolling by continuing to respond to the trolls, and being blatantly hypocritical in the process of bitching about the trolls. And at least the trolling from others is funny.

You're just whining about the AR. It's perfectly fine and rebalanced with the other weapons now. Before, it was just put dot on target, wait for target to die, since the thing had no recoil at all. Not that it really matters much, since this is a beta.

So quit whining about having to use skill with an AR now.

I'm a Mid level (at best) players talking themselves up and raging at Imperfects indirectly for reasons that have nothing to do with AR.

Lol, do you even play this game?

You have 18 likes and live in an NPC corp...

No, I FTFY. You idiots are trolling your own thread and then perpetuating the trolling by continuing to respond to the trolls, and being blatantly hypocritical in the process of bitching about the trolls. And at least the trolling from others is funny.

You're just whining about the AR. It's perfectly fine and rebalanced with the other weapons now. Before, it was just put dot on target, wait for target to die, since the thing had no recoil at all. Not that it really matters much, since this is a beta.

So quit whining about having to use skill with an AR now.

Lol, do you even play this game?

You have 18 likes and live in an NPC corp...

Case in point. Thanks for helping others understand what I was saying.

Given you said

"""Seems someone is a bit mad. I did just beat an imperfect in a match for K/D, was only barely edged out for WP, and I pretty much only use militia equivalent gear most of the time unlike you guys whom I see in full proto. Does that make you even madder?"""

Forum scrub comedy gold.

right there, u just confirmed what we are saying. Having the camera wouldn't make a difference, it just allowed for clear viewing. There IS recoil now, so its no longer just told the trigger down; that is all we have been trying to say.

LOL I said that, so what? I'm not being hypocritical about my intentions or what I meant by it. I'm a casual player and I can still at least do as well as your members.

Confirming.

Serious tip -

Walk the actual walk night after night. We'll notice. Don't post about it.