+1

Also, new equipment selection wheel is not being enjoyed. I am not sure why the prior version needed to be changed, I don't recall ever hearing someone complain about it, but please bring it back.

All I got out of that was... Something about warpoints and you wanted to change it on the logi...

So you think the Logi is useless.
Here is an idea for your grammar -- First sentence always should contain the key idea of the topic...
Just be like " LOGI SUCKS IT NEEDS WORK" ... then you can express your feelings.

I think the logi should do a lot more too. Its really hard to give a list of things that I think it should do... Because WE haven't seen the entire game or what they are going to put in game.

Maybe the Logi should have a few controllable drones? That can see a field of distance and point things out automatically, or do lil kamakazis. Maybe the lil drones could be customizable ?
They make the Logi sound like an engineer but they still don't utilize them correctly or towards that fashion.

A engineer wouldn't be healing people, they would be capturing things... using tools that no one else uses.. Carrying lil mobile base towers that can deploy and make a radar or something. Not carry a lil SMG.

I don't know, its hard to say with not seeing what all they are wanting to put into game. So far all we know is that there is just 4 classes a pilot and commander...
More reason they should make the character model system, sandbox... So people could REALLY outfit their character to their own specification and a Commander would be an awarded thing.

"This faster cycle eliminates the need for use of more advanced algorithms to track damage/rep streams, mitigates the problem with War Points being awarded at the end of the Repair Tool cycle, and allows for easier scaling of War Point awards between Tools of differing Meta Levels."

A total overhaul of the system would be more development resource intensive so the solution proposed below attempts to avoid (what seem to be) the more resource intensive changes to the system in favor of (what seem to be) lighter tweaks, in hopes that I can help save CCP on the overhead.

Short version for Xiree:

PROBLEM:
You get points for a set time of healing, not the amount you heal.
Better healing gear means you heal more in a set amount of time.
Thus, they get healed faster and you get less points because you can't heal them as long.

POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS:
Make the point reward base on amount healed or % of amount healed. Bad solution, needs more programming.
Make the better healing gear give you points faster than the crappy gear. Can do it by arbitrarily telling it to (per cycle) or can make them do it faster (have shorter cycles).

PS: He said all this in his first post.

How about adding in overheating to the repair tool factor as well. Constant use on low end models should overheat.

To Xiree: Good for you not getting into a flaming war and actually asking for help/explanation. That is respectable

To Cross: A very good post. Well thought out. Too often do we only hear complaints and no suggestions. Here you have offered both. and I agree wholeheartedly.

Though I would change WP to SP or SP/WP (even though SP is still a mystery). But that is my take. There should be a change to repping and rezzing rewards to make it worth the risk and time one has to invest in to become an adequate support character.

I would like to see repairing yourself brought back as an option when you are not targeting anyone. Sure, take away the SP/WP gain - but it just makes me more of a threat on the battlefield - it is a small but worthwhile advantage for carrying that thing around.

I would like to see repairing yourself brought back as an option when you are not targeting anyone. Sure, take away the SP/WP gain - but it just makes me more of a threat on the battlefield - it is a small but worthwhile advantage for carrying that thing around.

That would be a nice additional perk, possibly free up a little CPU/PG when running a Tool because you wouldn't need to rely on a Repper Mod. More importantly it would allow for a bit more speed or tank to try and get to/survive those fire fights we get to throw ourselves into. EDIT: Quick thought here, what if that effect were tied to a higher level Meta variant of the Repair Tool? That could provide another incentive/benefit of actually training up the skills and using quality Tools.


Also a couple questions since I've got LogiBros here.

1) What would you think of differing droupsuit bonuses within each Meta level, say derived from racial variations? All other stats being equal but for example, getting something extra for armor rep from Amarr. Extra cycle speed, longer lasting hives, etc (what are some of your ideas)?

2) What is the current status of shield repairs? Is there even a mod/tool out for an infantry Logi to do that, and if so what are the WP/SP awards like (both amount and mechanic)?

Now if it's a bonus on later levels of the repair tool I can agree to that. That means you put some effort into getting to that point instead of just throwing on a militia BP and getting free healing, and that means mostly LogiBros will have this ability. Since we have weak hp levels we kinda need the self repair option, and if others want to put in the SP and ISK for high level repair tools then I'm cool with them having the ability to self repair too.

As for your questions:

1. Good idea, I like it. I would give each race's suit one effect and have one suit for each race in each tier, increasing the effect as you go up the tiers.

2. As far as I know there is no means for repairing shields, but I really wish that functionality would be added to repair tools. I think it's bullshit that it's not already. Even if they reduce the amount you get for healing shields, it would be a big help for us LogiBros and the people we look after on the battlefield.

And I have one to add. How about a bonus for using logistics equipment while in a Logisuit? You can easily run repair, supply, revive, and droplinks out of almost any suit. Being able to carry more logi items is helpful, but I think wearing the suit should increase the WP you get, or at least boost the effect of the logi items you use. We need some help keeping up with everyone else out there.