Please be sure to take a look at triage nano hivs to. It seems like they also affect how many points we can get in a certain amount of time with or without our rep tools out.

Thanks for such admirably patient posting. A reply to this thread is long overdue, but here goes.

First off, I think the concept behind having higher WP rewards from using more expensive gear (and thus putting more ISK at at risk) is great and in line with our philosophy. We have looked into ways of making the WP rewards for support roles scale with the level of equipment you are using, but unfortunately it has turned out not to doable without some further development effort on the WP rewards system itself. That said, it's something we definitely interested in doing. Having high level weaponry makes you better at earning WP, as your killing potential is improved. Having high level equipment make you better at earning WP would only make sense.

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WP in general are pointless outside of Public Contracts.

They mean nothing in FW and nothing in PC. Idea's here are great but only apply to a single and very small section of the game.

Still remember the day you made this thread XD
still completely agree and support everything here.

But

I do think that the issues presented in Hotfix Alpha and Bravo that have been/are being fixed are a lot more important to the overall game balance.

It's the forum posts like this that make me think I should create a section in my idex for Dust topics instead of just Legion.

Thanks for such admirably patient posting. A reply to this thread is long overdue, but here goes.

First off, I think the concept behind having higher WP rewards from using more expensive gear (and thus putting more ISK at at risk) is great and in line with our philosophy. We have looked into ways of making the WP rewards for support roles scale with the level of equipment you are using, but unfortunately it has turned out not to doable without some further development effort on the WP rewards system itself. That said, it's something we definitely interested in doing. Having high level weaponry makes you better at earning WP, as your killing potential is improved. Having high level equipment make you better at earning WP would only make sense.

Some historical musings about repair rewards specifically:

In Chromosome, the repair rewards were changed from the old cyclical system. We replaced that with two new rewards:

Guardian - 35 WP - You're actively repairing a player who kills a target
Triage - 25 WP - You repair someone who has taken damage within the last 60 seconds

The primary reason for switching from the old cyclical rewards to the above was exploitation -- with the old system, we saw players coming up with all sorts of cunning schemes for racking up record amounts of WP in record times. The new rewards are more difficult to exploit, as obtaining them requires interaction between the teams (and by interaction, I mean shooting the other team in the faceplate). As you would have to coordinate with players on both teams to exploit this (something that shouldn't be easy in e.g. instant battles), they should be more robust against exploitation. With the new rewards we also added a (tweakable) cooldown to how often you could earn rewards to have a fall back in case someone found a clever new way to game the system.

The new rewards are compatible with scaling based on the quality of equipment used and it's just a question of investing us finding some development time to make the WP reward system support it.

In the meantime, we'd love to hear your feedback on how the repair rewards are performing to make adjustments if necessary. Do you feel that the reward levels reasonable? Do you feel that reward experience you get consistent (i.e. do you get rewards when you expect to get them)?

o7 I-Shayz-I
We've been at this a long time haven't we

I agree with you that there are more pressing matters to attend to than these fixes, however I also think it's imperative this collection of issues not be forgotten or let slip off the radar until "hotfix zeta" or some such
Which is why I keep pressing for a CCP response, even one that says "we're definitely going to do this, just have X,Y,Z to accomplish first".

As to indexes, I'm a big fan of them of course it's your time to invest but I certainly think that a Dust index of as yet unaccomplished ideas or something like it would be quite worthwhile.

Cheers,
Cross

That is firmly on the list already, I am just looking at whether pro just gives naturally more WP in a tier progression, or if its based on actual WP healed (don't know how easy that is though).

I feel like I am not rewarded enough for slaying.

and yet another reason why the Assault suit is the worse suit