- New dropship physics model

I'd love to hear more about this.. is it more agile?

Vehicles now take continual armour damage once they catch on fire.

Added Black Ops HAV

New XL turret class equipped on MCC

Added splash damage to all blasters

New turret variations

You have nooo idea...

- Player created channels: Players can create private persistent chat channels and invite people to them.

voice chat ? can i invite eve players ?

So many new things to try.

Any word on mass driver explosion fixes? They seem solid once the bugs are worked out.

No fixes to Mass drivers makes Scifi a sad LogiBro.

if i may?

reducing the damage on breach ARs is perhaps not the right way to balance them. they already lose DPS over standard variants as is. a low DPS, low recoil, automatic weapon is a pretty standard piece of an fps. perhaps INSTEAD of further reducing the dps, they should have the hipfire acc returned to normal. i would say THAT is what makes them break the mold. they are better at range and due to hipfire ARGUABLY better up close. they "should" be better at range and worse up close?


also, i hate vehicle spam as much as the next guy, especially dropships. but flaming vehicles doesn't seem quite right if you intend for there to be 2 independent schools of tanking and repair? what is a shield tanker to do if he catches fire? don't get me wrong i feel that shield tanking has had the upside til now what with the fact that they recharge, and that a shield vehicle can get speed or damage out of his low slots, whereas an armor vehicle gets... a spawn? out of his highs. so if this is how you plan to balance them then... ok i guess, but it seems off.


i like the rest, or am at least curious to try. i'll miss being able to self rep with a repair kit but oh well.

Maybe I missed it but I saw nothing about REs being timed delayed instead of insta boom.

- Added the cortex screen to the remote explosive
- Cooldown between remote explosive throws has been extended

- Hacking now possible within a 360 radius

Aside from that, there is no reason a burning vehicle shouldn't take damage, that would be like if you lit your hand on fire and your skin didn't melt.

keep your reality out of my videogames -.-


from a BALANCE perspective, this hurts shield tankers worse than armor tankers. now i see shield tankers as ahead, so it might work out, but reality has no place here.

i mean hell, they could just REMOVE the flame animation from low armor vehicles if it bothers people that much?

It's bad for Armor Buffer tanks but considering the nature of this game's fast pace - I don't honestly think anyone uses Armor Buffer anyway. It's more of an Eve Online thing.

Acutally I think its a shield tank nerf.

also did anyone else have a jaw drop moment when they read "breach forge gun" ?

There you go.

=== Dropsuits & Modules ===
- Increased armor HP on all Armor Plate modules

=== Vehicles & Turrets ===
- Vehicles now take continual armour damage once they catch on fire.

=== Vehicles & Turrets ===
- Added Black Ops HAV

Maybe I missed it but I saw nothing about REs being timed delayed instead of insta boom.

I did, and let me tell you, boners were popped.

Didn't see anything about putting a cap on vehicular ammo

Update: the draw distance for infantry and vehicles have been increased, should now see up to 3 times as far

Just for Dropsuits?



This is VERY bad for Gallente...Unless the fire bug is fixed so a perfectly healthy tank don't burn , just because it's shield is gone (as is always the case for Gallente)
Considering all the other bugs and problems that could have been addressed, this is a puzzle.

- Skirmish Mode 2.0 -¿C New improvements made to the skirmish mode allowing more balanced combat

- Updated Plateaus megaterrain layout and integrated with the Galaxy seeding system

- Increased the optimal range for the HMG
- Reduced overheating speed for the HMG
- Burst and Assault HMGs

Screen shaking when getting shot at?

Looking forward to trying out the new features though.

It says dropsuits and modules, so I'm thinking modules = vehicles

They did the fire thing to respond to a complaint I had about my Eryx being in flames for 5 minutes yet in full shields. This way, apparently it would die after a while, fixing the illogical situation I was in. Just not in the way I had hoped. Hopefully they adjusted when things get into flames now as well, we shall see. Unless they changed things, armor reppers can stop flames.. but shield reppers cannot. In eve, you were in flames when you enter structure, but I don't see them adding structure if they don't this next update. Armor tanked pilots shouldn't worry about this as much as shield pilots do.

Screen shaking when getting shot at? OP invisible grenades that now track and follow the nearest target? Buffed the already annoying heavy class and made it easier to camp in your spawn with a sniper rifle? Sounds like the gunplay is going downhill.

Looking forward to trying out the new features though.

"Gun play" must go down hill, but I am missing the one about fixing spawns as well.

First!
Looking forward to shooting you all!

More collision damage, ya that all fine but make the little objects like lamp post not instant kill ships...

- Added UI functionality to enable Keyboard and Mouse
- Keyboard and Mouse options page

Two biggest things that made me smile excessively:

1. Ability to melee during a reload. THANK YOU CCP!!!

2. Ability to sprint from a crouching position. About time.

Everything mentioned above is just a small subset of what weGÇÖre adding to DUST 514 next week. All of these features are just the latest improvements to an awesome massively-multiplayer first-person shooter that will be free to play for every PlayStation 3 owner.

In addition, weGÇÖre launching a free companion app on the Vita, DUST 514: Neocom, to augment your gameplay experience and let you customize your fittings, train skills, use the market, browse the starmap, and much more, on the go anytime and anywhere.

CCP why "fix " the aim assist when we asked an option to remove it altogether?

Yall have been busy. I am looking forward to this weekend when I can try it out.

Read again, it's there.

=== Misc ===
- Players will receive items as Salvage at the end of a match
- The player's character will appear in a Merc Quarter that correctly reflects the race of the station the character is in
- Updated interactive consoles in all MQs. Players can now find consoles for Instant Battle and Leaderboards in the Mercenary Quarters
- Updated interactive consoles in the War Room. Players can now find consoles for Leaderboards and Battle Description in the War Room
- The lock on UI will now target the entity, not the pilot of the entity
- The lock on UI will now be displayed when player is locking on using the repair tool
- Increased bleed out time
- Fixed spawn bug that only used a single spawn location...

so we'll only be able to group up to 4 people before entering battle ?
It's already somethin but I hope this isnt final.
Also, squads are made of 6 mercs, why only 4 then ?

Still a little vague on what is actually happening to them. Hopefully there is more, just couldn't highlight everything in the post.

Already confirmed in so many threads it doesn't need to be said again.

Good.

You have nooo idea...

Yeah, because Forge Guns need an even more powerful variant.
Well, you wanted tank free battles, here they come.

I'm excited to see how these Swarm Launcher and Nanohive changes shake out. Keeping them on the field after the user's death and giving them finite capacity makes sense, but I really hope I can get 4-5 full Swarm reloads out of one. (That or the Proto Launcher should get a damage boost, because it can take a heck of a lot of salvos to take down a well fit tank.)

I didn't see a single thing in there about fixing hit detection or reducing RBS.

You have nooo idea...

I'm hopeful that the nano hives running out of nanites will make people think twice about destroying the resupply points. Otherwise it's going to be really tough to be AV against a DR specced tank with 16k+ ehp. Overall though, if things work out the way I'm reading this, I think we'll see much more balanced matches and a LOT more Logi suits.

Cortex screen ? Da fuq ? AFAIK cortex is usually inside your skull, so CCP you mind if we have this in english ?

To be truly and completely honest....handheld weapons should not be stronger than HAV weapons. The basic forge gun is practically as strong as the the strongest railgun AND CCP is only making forge guns stronger? I'm sorry, but the way updates are going having a vehicle will only "be there for looks". Why dont you try making vehicles actually worth the multiple million skill points and isk to acquire instead of just making new versions that will still not be effective? They all are still getting 1-3 shotted by anyone who looks at it funny.

This comes from a Sagaris user. I have every skill maxed that effects tanks and tank modules. I have the most effective possible build I could come up with for a defense based shield tank with about 50% damage reduction, somewhere around 6000 shields, a thoroughly needed shield booster, and the strongest railgun. This tank takes about 4 forge gun rounds on a good day.

I have stopped playing this game due to the saddening vehicles and I'm sure I'm not the first or the last. CCP, quit wasting your players' time and fix some real balance problems instead of adding aim assist and homing grenades.

If 4 rounds from a Forge Gun are taking you out, then either you're doing it wrong, or they're doing it very, very right.

Limitations of infantry with Forge Guns vs tanks with Railguns:
1. Infantry have far lower eHP, they're much easier to kill.
2. Infantry have limited ammo supply, vehicles have unlimited ammo.
3. Infantry move slower, tanks can evade them easily if they're paying attention.

Aside from that, how often do you see an infantry guy with a score of 30/2 at the end of the match? Rarely. How often do you see a guy in a Sagaris/Madrugar go 30/2? Frequently. Perhaps you simply need to find a different role on the battlefield.

Edit: Those were just the limitations that are a big deal and I could bring up off the top of my head, I'm sure the list could go on.

will be a wipe ?

black ops tanks.....

Congratulations beta players! you all now have a new reason to fear me!

Cortex screen ? Da fuq ? AFAIK cortex is usually inside your skull, so CCP you mind if we have this in english ?

A forge gun (a weap 1/5th in size and should be reflective amount of damage) starts at 2k and peaks easily at 2.5k - more than a fully loaded out tank. And their bullets frequently become invisible. And the shooter is harder to find. And they shoot faster than a railgun. So should a single person be able to easily take out 3 people in 6-8 seconds? Less time than it takes for a tank to start moving and go 4-5 yards? I think not. Sniper rifles with all speed head-shots aren't even this efficient unless they're only hitting militia dropsuits. So I'd understand if this was only with mitia tanks. But it's not.

A proto assault Forge starts at 1.5k. If you max out Weapon skill and Forge Proficiency that would put you at 2100. If you stack 3 complex damage mods you could get it up to 2.55k, but i can't imagine you'll have room for much survivability or a decent side arm, which mean's you might as well lay down and die when anyone in an assault or scout suit see's you. I fought a Sag yesterday in ambush that ate 5 of my forge rounds without his repper up, i had to fire 2 more before that to bait him into activating it so i could wait out the timer and kill him so 7 rounds total, and the only reason he died was because he did a crappy job of getting his tank behind cover. I pumped near half my total ammo into it, and if i didn't know wtf i was doing could have used a lot more and probably still not killed him. Tanks are fine, AV weaponry is fine, both do their jobs well.

Edit: Also don't takn rail guns have a much more significant splash damage? I don't have a tank fit so i don't know numbers off the top of my head, but misses with a tank rail seem to hurt a lot.

Edit: Also don't takn rail guns have a much more significant splash damage? I don't have a tank fit so i don't know numbers off the top of my head, but misses with a tank rail seem to hurt a lot.

You have nooo idea...

- Player created channels: Players can create private persistent chat channels and invite people to them.

- Localization solution implemented (French, Italian, German, Spanish is supported in addition to English.)

- Vehicle pops and bounces when the driver enters the pause menu whilst on sloped terrain

And one more thing, what about using weapons/equips inside the dropship? When a ship's on fire, and someone inside the ship has a tool, shouldn't they be able to use it? I'd say the same with heavies, but then I pictured a dropship with 4 forge guns....which the only thing I can think of to compensate for that is to have the weight affect mobility....

Maybe why I'm taking so much damage is something bugging on me then? If so *tears*....

Also, all but one (the best) railgun have 150 splash damage, the best one has 350 - so unless the player maxed out all those turret skills, their railguns won't do much splash damage. So missing definitely hurts alot until you're as accurate as me

My best guess is you're just getting hit by multiple forge guns most of the time. Ever since we got that first free 1mil SP pretty much everyone has an AV fit with a swarm or a forge and as soon as a tank shows up everyone takes them out. With the way registering shield/armor damage often seems to have a delay if they are attacking close enough together it could seem like one attack.

Where does it say that in the patches notes? because i aint found it

I just hope they fix the gun game by then.

black ops tanks.....

Congratulations beta players! you all now have a new reason to fear me!

so we'll only be able to group up to 4 people before entering battle ?
It's already somethin but I hope this isnt final.

Also, squads are made of 6 mercs, why only 4 then ?

so we'll only be able to group up to 4 people before entering battle ?
It's already somethin but I hope this isnt final.

Also, squads are made of 6 mercs, why only 4 then ?

When will this patch deploy? Thanks.

Black Ops tanks?

Hm....will they have even a shorter draw distance limit than the current "stealth" drop ships?

:(

black ops tanks.....

Congratulations beta players! you all now have a new reason to fear me!

I hope we can change our faction after the whipe. I want to go to Gallante from Amarr. My friend is there and my son is there on Eve.

I know and it's possible, but a small handheld weapon should be at least somewhat weaker than fully loaded out, heavily armored vehicles. Should be: Railgun>Forge Gun. Ya know, seeing as how Blaster>AR and Rocket Pods>Swarms?

No love for move controller? No fix to adjust deadzone? please tell me you just forgot to include it in patch notes!!!

Thank you for the update CCP. So it now feels like were chatting to the marketing side of the company and not the developers. we need to get this game as far away from BATTLEFIELD 2142 as possible and guess what its getting closer by the patch.. whats next Mech Suits? Seriously CCP listen to your playerbase and stop going off on a random direction. The ideas here are nice BUT THEY HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE in other games and it doesnt work.

Look at your feedback next time CCP. Its the players that make the Game not the other way around.

Acutally I think its a shield tank nerf.

Yep, I hope they fis bunny hopping, strafing and hipfire spraying

- Nanohives now replenish grenades and explosives as well

maybe to leave room for random noobs? :) agreed that it doesn't make sense to me, either.

Am I the only person who thinks this will be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure it doesn't take much imagination to find ways of making this as annoying as the RE spamming we all love to hate.

All good, very good in fact...... except KB&M.

There is no need to see if this beta will show imbalance between duel shocks and mouse. There WILL be imbalance.

Keep them separate from day one and never should the two meet.

Achtung Soldaten!

=== Environment & Maps ===
- Updated Plateaus megaterrain layout and integrated with the Galaxy seeding system
- Lots of new environmental attributes and socketable components

Thank you for the update CCP. So it now feels like were chatting to the marketing side of the company and not the developers. we need to get this game as far away from BATTLEFIELD 2142 as possible and guess what its getting closer by the patch.. whats next Mech Suits? Seriously CCP listen to your playerbase and stop going off on a random direction. The ideas here are nice BUT THEY HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE in other games and it doesnt work.

DS3, Move, and KB/M. They will all be in the game, and you will not change that. I suggest you just get used to it.

GREAT
- blaster splash
- amped logistics, repair, hacking, and other support
- grouping, squads, collaboration
- added screens, views, info...
- salvage
- armor plate hp+
- sprinting, crouching, reload, melee mechanics
- bleedout and medics

NOT SO GREAT
- Hmg over-powering
- burning vehicles - nerfs shield tank, armor rep weak already
- homing grenades?!

WHAT ABOUT
- pilot drop suits
- awards, achievements, etc from character window
- corp battles

It says dropsuits and modules, so I'm thinking modules = vehicles

They did the fire thing to respond to a complaint I had about my Eryx being in flames for 5 minutes yet in full shields. This way, apparently it would die after a while, fixing the illogical situation I was in. Just not in the way I had hoped. Hopefully they adjusted when things get into flames now as well, we shall see. Unless they changed things, armor reppers can stop flames.. but shield reppers cannot. In eve, you were in flames when you enter structure, but I don't see them adding structure if they don't this next update. Armor tanked pilots shouldn't worry about this as much as shield pilots do.

not to impose or be ungrateful but um..... how about u include some female characters with that update to be fair....just saying

Silly 5 Quote max (x2)

i agree, for energy weapons, but otherwise, why not make the tank driver strategize? got into the last part of a match yesterday where a tank gunner was sitting at the red line with over 70 kills because he was spamming the spawn point. if the tank driver had to find a vehicle nanohive or a supply depot every once in a while, this would help break things up enough that you could at least get a 3 second ....



well, there goes any chance to hitting a dropship with a forge gun, unless it's hovering....

Would be nice.... I figured this would be one of the first things they did.

not to impose or be ungrateful but um..... how about u include some female characters with that update to be fair....just saying

Capacitors=vehicle ammo + energy

thats silly.

at most I think they'd put in female vocals.. unless you're gallentian ( who love to be politically correct )

Gender explanation

Whats the point of using custom clones?

- The repair tool cannot be used to repair yourself, only other players

You have nooo idea...

You have nooo idea...

are we getting a name reset also? would rather use my psn gamer tag

As far as the HMG one is concerned, the HMG is currently a joke. Even the Boundless one only makes you an easy target at medium range unless you have the overheat skill fully trained, and your slow movement speed will still have you dying to CreoDron Breach rifles left and right. The reason we see so many heavies with assault rifles right now is due to that being the only anti-infantry weapon that they can actually be of any use with.

Wow, cool stuff...


Cept'


I'm omw to Eurpoe for 5 weeks.....nice timeing guys :P


oh! Anyone in Stuttgart want to lend me a big screen and ps3??

What's amusing is that I've never had any aim assist at all. It literally seems to have a different magnitude for every individual user.

Is there a threshold for the aim assist or does it pull your aim to the nearest target?

Unfortunately, my skill points, consumables, and currency were not restored after the latest patch.

Not really sure, honestly. I can now tell the difference when I turn it on or off, but while its on it seems to perform gently, just giving you a little drift toward the target as you move the sticks rather than dragging your aim around.

Why do I never see anyone ask about when we can expect more optimization of the game its self i.e. framerate, netcode. graphics and the like. Maybe I am missing it somewhere?

Many of these will come when the servers are run by Sisi, more again on TQ. Add to the fact that CCP is still working on basic functionality right at the moment. Icing come a bit down the road.

We are already ON singularity bro, TQ is next within the next few days

or not : /

hurry up the new build already... pleeaase :(

WTB new mechanics....and a more stable build...

I can wait for the build, I just want patch notes! I need to know what's IN the new build