DUST Search - Announcement:The Future of DUST 514

THE BUTTONPUSHER wrote:

Forlorn Destrier wrote:

THE BUTTONPUSHER wrote:

Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:

THE BUTTONPUSHER wrote:

I've only been on for 4 months, spent quite bit of money for Aurum. regardless if I used it to buy boosters, weapons etc... I was trying to level up to play this game to not even get a year out of it. I'm not going to lie I feel taken advantage of, there was no future, but hey took my money. I only have a PS3, That's just not right...

So, just to clarify things here, CCP knew they're closing up shop on PS3, but are still selling AUR?

Roll

I can spend the Aurum I have and have no future in the game going forward, sorry but what a waste of money and time for everyone, not just me. Everyone has opinions on this, this is mine, nobody has to like it.

Just a theory, what happens when a lot of people jump to PC because CCP's word has been so truthful Roll

, you get a year or so down the road and they shut down the PC side? Money invested in a gaming PC, EVE membership, etc...I see a lot of butt hurt in the future. I'll be playing my outdated consoles, plenty of games I've never play. lol

It sounds like your expectation is that the game is permanent. With very few exceptions, all online games are ended at some point. I suspect you will be unhappy with any online game you play, as they will all eventually end. Expecting otherwise is illogical.

You assumed wrong, I know games end, but usually they are forthcoming with info. Ive been reading online for months that it was still being supported. If they had been upfront instead saying a new release was coming, I would played with expectation of not to invest my time and hard earned cash into a game coming to a close. It's not called illogical, its called misleading. But I think you misunderstood me, I don't care the game is coming to an end per say, I'm not even mad, I just think it's a shotty way of handling this whole thing, bad communication, bad business practices.

These are my opinions, if you don't like it, no problem. But refrain from taking shots at me and move along. Blink

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Drake JOHN3244 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 119	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:39:00 - [361] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Drake JOHN3244 wrote: Should I sell my ps3 to buy a PC ? Dust 514 is the only game I played in the last 6 months Keep it until the servers shut down, and hope CCP has more information by then. That's what I would do in your situation. Ok You think you're good ? Face me in the battlefield !!!!!!!! :)) Port Dust 514
THE BUTTONPUSHER Grand Design Inc. 7	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:39:00 - [362] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: THE BUTTONPUSHER wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: THE BUTTONPUSHER wrote: I've only been on for 4 months, spent quite bit of money for Aurum. regardless if I used it to buy boosters, weapons etc... I was trying to level up to play this game to not even get a year out of it. I'm not going to lie I feel taken advantage of, there was no future, but hey took my money. I only have a PS3, That's just not right... So, just to clarify things here, CCP knew they're closing up shop on PS3, but are still selling AUR? I can spend the Aurum I have and have no future in the game going forward, sorry but what a waste of money and time for everyone, not just me. Everyone has opinions on this, this is mine, nobody has to like it. Just a theory, what happens when a lot of people jump to PC because CCP's word has been so truthful , you get a year or so down the road and they shut down the PC side? Money invested in a gaming PC, EVE membership, etc...I see a lot of butt hurt in the future. I'll be playing my outdated consoles, plenty of games I've never play. lol It sounds like your expectation is that the game is permanent. With very few exceptions, all online games are ended at some point. I suspect you will be unhappy with any online game you play, as they will all eventually end. Expecting otherwise is illogical. You assumed wrong, I know games end, but usually they are forthcoming with info. Ive been reading online for months that it was still being supported. If they had been upfront instead saying a new release was coming, I would played with expectation of not to invest my time and hard earned cash into a game coming to a close. It's not called illogical, its called misleading. But I think you misunderstood me, I don't care the game is coming to an end per say, I'm not even mad, I just think it's a shotty way of handling this whole thing, bad communication, bad business practices. These are my opinions, if you don't like it, no problem. But refrain from taking shots at me and move along.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:39:00 - [363] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Do you guys have a "working title" for this project? Seems like Dust 2.0 is being picked up by the community. "Dust PC" is the best the CPM has right now. CCP are taking their time finding the right fit Stop being derpy, Pokey gave us the name. EVE: PHOENIX. DUST: PHOENIX LEGION. Where do i sign up? ??
Kitten Azura Lunas Gonna Lune 1	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:40:00 - [364] - Quote Dammit CCP, another of the many promises you made to us broken. The only reason this one is redeemable is that you're potentially going to make another game...but **, it's on pc. Gonna lose all those console gamers you worked up in your ranks along the years...Wish dust lasted longer, wish there was a single player offline mode that we could continue, I wish for a lot more of a game that could've been the best game ever, if it didn't have all the tiny bugs, glitches, lag spikes, and **** unbalanced updates. But I guess that's what we've come to expect from each new update.. patches fixing the old bugs and adding in new ones. If you guys played your game as much as we do, you'd know why some, similar to me are just as heartbroken over this being shut down.. Dust514 couldn't last forever, as many games can't... But I wish it was longer.
Soto Gallente 712	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:40:00 - [365] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Do you guys have a "working title" for this project? Seems like Dust 2.0 is being picked up by the community. "Dust PC" is the best the CPM has right now. CCP are taking their time finding the right fit *cough phoenix cough Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Travis Stanush Booty Loops Inc. 618	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:40:00 - [366] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: ... Hey Darth, could you ask the devs to set some time aside for maybe a weekend to play a few matches with us? No I will not show you where they touched me!!!
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:43:00 - [367] - Quote THE BUTTONPUSHER wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: THE BUTTONPUSHER wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: THE BUTTONPUSHER wrote: I've only been on for 4 months, spent quite bit of money for Aurum. regardless if I used it to buy boosters, weapons etc... I was trying to level up to play this game to not even get a year out of it. I'm not going to lie I feel taken advantage of, there was no future, but hey took my money. I only have a PS3, That's just not right... So, just to clarify things here, CCP knew they're closing up shop on PS3, but are still selling AUR? I can spend the Aurum I have and have no future in the game going forward, sorry but what a waste of money and time for everyone, not just me. Everyone has opinions on this, this is mine, nobody has to like it. Just a theory, what happens when a lot of people jump to PC because CCP's word has been so truthful , you get a year or so down the road and they shut down the PC side? Money invested in a gaming PC, EVE membership, etc...I see a lot of butt hurt in the future. I'll be playing my outdated consoles, plenty of games I've never play. lol It sounds like your expectation is that the game is permanent. With very few exceptions, all online games are ended at some point. I suspect you will be unhappy with any online game you play, as they will all eventually end. Expecting otherwise is illogical. You assumed wrong, I know games end, but usually they are forthcoming with info. Ive been reading online for months that it was still being supported. If they had been upfront instead saying a new release was coming, I would played with expectation of not to invest my time and hard earned cash into a game coming to a close. It's not called illogical, its called misleading. But I think you misunderstood me, I don't care the game is coming to an end per say, I'm not even mad, I just think it's a shotty way of handling this whole thing, bad communication, bad business practices. These are my opinions, if you don't like it, no problem. But refrain from taking shots at me and move along. I don't have a problem with your opinion at all. It just didn't seem logical to me. If you are basing this on the idea that they have known a long time, just remember it's possible that they haven't know that long. It could have been, "if Q4 sales is not improved, we will close it down after the first of the year." This is very likely given my experiences in corporate America. Just food for thought. I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 277	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:43:00 - [368] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Do you guys have a "working title" for this project? Seems like Dust 2.0 is being picked up by the community. "Dust PC" is the best the CPM has right now. CCP are taking their time finding the right fit Dust: Phoenix please #KeepDustInThePS3
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:44:00 - [369] - Quote Ardos 130297 wrote: Hmmm... This how to say "F****" a second time ? Well, I think I just will stop totally the game... I hoped a lot for a port of Legion (or anything else like Dust but in better) on PS4. It's sad... It's actually quite good. As a PS4 version would've, sooner or later, encountered the same problems like Dust on PS3. I mean another Eve Shooter for a console which is already 3 years old? They are just not making the same mistake again. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Soto Gallente 712	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:44:00 - [370] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Do you guys have a "working title" for this project? Seems like Dust 2.0 is being picked up by the community. "Dust PC" is the best the CPM has right now. CCP are taking their time finding the right fit EVE: Phoenix please ftfy Ex-news reporter for The Scope

scisco Teebag Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 32	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:44:00 - [371] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: HOLD ON GOD DAM MINTUTE before you devs do anything else WHAT THE ** DOES 514 ***** MEAN!!!!! BUMP How should we end the game as a community?
Ankbar Latrommi Roghnaigh Do Scrios 235	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:45:00 - [372] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Ankbar Latrommi wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: It sounds like your expectation is that the game is permanent. With very few exceptions, all online games are ended at some point. I suspect you will be unhappy with any online game you play, as they will all eventually end. Expecting otherwise is illogical. Eve: Online -- over a decade and still trucking. And on the same hardware. Um, not the same hardware at all. I've played for years and have had to upgrade my computer several times to continue. Also, Eve is the exception, not the rule. I meant the server. And sure they just upgraded, but all of Tranquility makes the move, Eve:O and Eve:D. Looking at mmorpg.com's list, sorted by release date and only looking at 'majorish' titles.... (in quotation marks--most mmos don't ever get close to WoW's size.) Ultima Online EverQuest Dark Ages Asheron's Call Kingdom of Drakkar Anarchy Online (this entry enters the millennium) Shattered Galaxy Dark Age of Camelot Planetside (Eve:Online goes here) Second Life MU Online FF XI Runescape Lineage 2 Ryzom Vendetta Online EverQuest 2 World of Warcraft Guild Wars D&D Online Rise I stopped the list at 2007. So I'm not including the very long list of notable games which have lasted longer than E:Dust....including Hello Kitty Online. I don't think his expectations were too unreasonable. Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:47:00 - [373] - Quote Chuckles Brown wrote: The saddest part is the CPM knew about this 3 weeks ago. Why not just tell the people right away, as they had the right to know. It's not like we were given much notice anyway. Were you afraid of losing your voluntary spot on on a sham council, on a game that has a definite expiration date? Sad, that all of you were puppets until the end. Only 3 weeks ago? I'll just link the definition of a Non-Disclosure Agreement for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:50:00 - [374] - Quote Handy guide for everyone to help the DUST 514 => Planetside 2 transition: Scout => Infiltrator Logistics => Engineer Assault => Medic Heavy => Heavy Assault Nothing => Light Assault MTAC => Max CCP Explained
THE BUTTONPUSHER Grand Design Inc. 9	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:52:00 - [375] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: [quote=THE BUTTONPUSHER]I've only been on for 4 months, spent quite bit of money for Aurum. regardless if I used it to buy boosters, weapons etc... I was trying to level up to play this game to not even get a year out of it. I'm not going to lie I feel taken advantage of, there was no future, but hey took my money. I only have a PS3, That's just not right.. I work in corporate America myself, good corporations give timely notice among other details. I'm no spring chicken, my days go back to Atari 2600. lol
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:54:00 - [376] - Quote SLADE8U wrote: DARTH CARBON, please stop posting after drinking the CCP kool-aid! You are going to make me vomit with your company man assumptions and knowledge. The cool-aid tastes pretty crap when you don't have a PC and never really played a KB/M shooter... Wipe the bile off your face and think about how we're all in this boat together before trying to poke holes in it. Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Thor Odinson42 Th3.Immortals Shadow of Dust 7	Posted - 2016.02.03 20:59:00 - [377] - Quote I guess the revenue dropped below a certain threshold to finally announce the future. It's hard for me to be nice. But good luck CCP. You certainly had me under your spell for quite a long time. Hopefully all the money I spent on Eve and Dust ends up making some other gamers happy in the future. The way this has been handled going back to the Rouge Wedding and then the from the ashes, "no really Dust has a future BS" that swindled more money out of me virtually guarantees that you'll never get a dime out of me. If there are no other games to play in the future and CCP has become the Coke of gaming, I guess I'll break down. Until then you can go **** into the wind.
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:00:00 - [378] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: How did the CPM not lynch whoever told them Warlords 1.3 was a lie on the stop? We weren't exactly happy. You should have seen Zaria's face To tell you the truth though, Rattati was pretty damn disappointed as well. Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
smellslikekevinbacon Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 6	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:00:00 - [379] - Quote Glad to hear about the new project is in the works. I really hope it gets a ps4 port. But if not I guess I'll check it out on pc. I had an amazing experience during my time with dust. I will miss the madness. Thanks for the fun everyone! Smell yuh somewhere in New eden scrubs. #EBFU Only the dead have seen the end of war. Become eternal. Fight forever!
RedBleach LeSanglant Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 910	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:01:00 - [380] - Quote THANK YOU CCP for the news and an update on what was going on behind the silence. Thank you for working with the CPM to announce this change in plans. Thank you for working on a port! Burning DUST to the ground! A proper cremation, and from the skeletal remains and Ashes will rise the PHOENIX! A new, evolving, and Better EVE FPS! Sooooo excited! I will be looking forward to even more announcements and some Vet perks. I love that this will live on in a way. WELL DONE CCP. Sticking with the game, and the community, and seeing that there is potential in this idea. Thank you for the announcement. And WHATEVER comes, thank you for speaking; even though there may be some dis-gruntled/enfranchised voices. The Logi Code. Quiet Ally to CPM2

Ankbar Latrommi Roghnaigh Do Scrios 236	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:05:00 - [381] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I guess the revenue dropped below a certain threshold to finally announce the future. Wasn't Q4 2015 their first positive quarter? (After reducing to 2 developers, of course.) Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
IONA GUNN HUMOROUS HEADSTONES INC 5	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:05:00 - [382] - Quote We may have bitched a lot CCP, but it came from the heart and passion we had for the game. We just wanted to help make it perfect. Thank you for the good run. My chats today are filled with sadness.
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 4	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:06:00 - [383] - Quote Yes ! Great job guys ! Make that new game from scratch and make sure the SP and ISK is not transfered over. I am so happy right now. Thank you CCP. Thank you. Form is temporary, class is permanent.
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:08:00 - [384] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I guess the revenue dropped below a certain threshold to finally announce the future. Wasn't Q4 2015 their first positive quarter? (After reducing to 2 developers, of course.) Possibly, but perhaps they didn't reach their goal? I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:08:00 - [385] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: Now I saw that you made some statement to tiered rewards, but more clarification in the area of ISK and boosters would be welcomed by the group. Clarification is coming, hopefully at fanfest. Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:12:00 - [386] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Will the new game be free? Definitely not a question I can answer, unfortunately. The marketing team(blech) is still figuring that out, I'd imagine. Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Ardos 130297 Prima Gallicus 144	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:13:00 - [387] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ardos 130297 wrote: Hmmm... This how to say "F****" a second time ? Well, I think I just will stop totally the game... I hoped a lot for a port of Legion (or anything else like Dust but in better) on PS4. It's sad... It's actually quite good. As a PS4 version would've, sooner or later, encountered the same problems like Dust on PS3. I mean another Eve Shooter for a console which is already 3 years old? They are just not making the same mistake again. I think it can be a very good game on PC, but, the 1st aim at the beginning was to regroup 2 different community of 2 different platform (PC & console). Now, this is broken. And now, I don't know if the "new" dust on PC can succeed. I mean, there is a lot of games on PC, and Planetside 2 do very well is job. I hope for us they will have more player (more than just Eve players) but it will be difficult :/ If I can, I will take a good PC when I begin my job in the army, but I will not have a lot of time. Maybe if some players of Prima migrate on PC to play. I will do the same. If not... Or no envy to begin the experience, just stop and say goodbye. Wait & see again... :( You do not win a war by making what is just... You win it by making what is necessary... Veteran Closed Beta
Ankbar Latrommi Roghnaigh Do Scrios 236	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:14:00 - [388] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: Will the new game be free? Definitely not a question I can answer, unfortunately. The marketing team(blech) is still figuring that out, I'd imagine. It's not your job to answer that. Or any of these other questions that aren't directed to CPM. Are you their community managers now? Where's CCP, after dropping this news? Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
Chuckles Brown 355	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:14:00 - [389] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Morcom Kaese wrote: I have one question for the CPM: what happens to you and it now? Have their been any thought and discussions of continuing the institution forward into the new game and the new paradigm? If not, start some! I think having the CPM institution continue onto the new game to give feedback, etc. would be brilliant. Well, I can't really say for sure, because I don't really know for sure! It is unfortunate that we came in during the transition period, but we have also gotten to impact the development of this new project on the ground floor, and that's pretty cool. Going forward, I think CCP understands the importance of community interaction, and I can only hope that means the survival of the CPM as an institution, one way or the other. If Legion was just around the corner, then perhaps the lolCPM would still have meaning. CPM has less meaning than ever, the game has less meaning, the community has less meaning... When will you people realize that CCP has only 1 title to their credit... because they don't know how to build games. They know how to sell; mostly the sale of bullsh!tting people into thinking they care. CPM was invented to curb community out-cry from massive in-game EvE protesting. It's yet another cost-less front CCP uses to make it look like they care when all they want is to suck revenue out of players without providing a decent service in return. CPM is useless and has never been needed, especially in a community this small. The fact that they decided to shut off the servers in just 12 weeks of notice tells that this decision was made much longer ago. All the 'feedback' you can CCP means nothing, as they make all the final decisions. Legion(or whatever project they are working on) is years away from being released, by that time us Dust Bunnies will not care anymore, and CCP can add another failed title to their resume. Just imagine how many projects they started that never even left the drawing board that failed. If CCP had been in the domain of any other country besides Iceland, they'd been out of business and bankrupt by now. So, with CCP not having credibility. CPM certainly has 0. Get over yourselves. As ALL CPMs just wanted the title for selfish gain anyway. At least you could have told us 3 weeks ago when you found out that 3 years of playing, and spending money was for nothing... What's the worst that could happen, lose?
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 21:14:00 - [390] - Quote Travis Stanush wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: ... Hey Darth, could you ask the devs to set some time aside for maybe a weekend to play a few matches with us? I can and I will, but it is now safe to publicly say that everyone at Shanghai is working on making this new project great, and therefore the chances of having a Dev Day are probably slim. I do agree that it would be fitting, and would be a great way to show their community support. Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi



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