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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.05.31 18:50:00 -
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Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
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dy5t0pia
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.31 18:53:00 -
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I vote PS4
Closed Beta Vet
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Void Echo
Helix Order
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Posted - 2015.05.31 18:56:00 -
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Ps4
Closed Beta Vet.
My Youtube.
"Until all are free"
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.05.31 18:57:00 -
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I wanted to buy a os4 but said No. I'll go for Xbox one and it better release for it too. If Dust relases and is great for PC then xbox one and ps4 deserve it. :D
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:00:00 -
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Ps4
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:02:00 -
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If they're simply going to port Dust 514 to the PS4/PC I'll be extremely disappointed. I'd rather Dust 514 in it's current iteration stay on the PS3.
I want legion to happen (on PC or PS4 I'm not to fussed). A move to a new platform is the perfect opportunity to rebuild the game from the ground up and finally fulfill CCP's original vision of what Dust 514 should have been. |
Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:04:00 -
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Pepper Spray 4
"Breakin, PS3's and PS4's can't mate. They're incompatible. Unlike Apache's and Cappuccino machines." - Cat wisdom
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Eros Adonai
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
405
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:09:00 -
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PS4
Director - Corrosive Synergy
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:16:00 -
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Another one of these? Yes, PS4 obviously
Shields, the silent killer.
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JAKE REDBLOOD
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:23:00 -
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Ps4 obviously
My YouTube Channel
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:25:00 -
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PS4
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:27:00 -
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Squagga wrote:Another one of these? Yes, PS4 obviously
Well it's obvious they won't talk to us about it so, I'll keep trying
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bathtubist
Destinys Immortals
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:28:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
I would do ps4/PC
Since I gotta pay for online services for playstation now Why the hell did they do that
"Remote Explosives throwing distance has been reduced" - CCp Rattati Re''s have been nerfed We always see you
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:32:00 -
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A PC port has been in progress for well over a year now.
We haven't heard **** about it, but it's what we've got.
The last time a dev said anything about PS4, they said they have no plans to port to a console, because PC is easier to develop on.
Aloha snackbar
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:34:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:I wanted to buy a os4 but said No. I'll go for Xbox one and it better release for it too. If Dust relases and is great for PC then xbox one and ps4 deserve it. :D
Xbox one is likely the last thing CCP would consider developing on. When they originally released Dust, they were looking at the Xbox 360, but microsoft would only do it if it was on their servers, which will never happen.
Aloha snackbar
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abdullah muzaffar
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
595
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:35:00 -
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PC, PSN is crap.
IJR took my soul. RIP 20/3/15 5:14
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olssam 62
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:35:00 -
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PS4
Chaîne Youtube - Dust 514 FR - olssam62
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
86
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:35:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
I agree with you, but if it was so easy they would have done it already.
I'll whip ya head boy
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:36:00 -
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I agree and personally would like to see Dust 514 on PS4, but.......
There's a lot of core code that needs to be fixed/euthanized before that makes any sense at all - porting a highly polished turd is self-destructive decision-making.
So what i want to know is not what platform we're moving to, but if the old problems that have ailed Dust from the beginning have been fixed in any extant in-house version of the game. Failing that, i'd like to know if there is any plan to fix them at all.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:06:00 -
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Cross platform! PS+XB on same server
!--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
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NoExsplosionsMgee
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
377
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:15:00 -
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PS4
PRAISE THE SUN!! \ |Gö¼|' /
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Ardos 130297
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:24:00 -
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PS4             
You do not win a war by making what is just...
You win it by making what is necessary...
Veteran Closed Beta
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:26:00 -
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PC, PS4 or Xbox one. I will buy any console for Dust 514.
Amarr Victor
Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
264
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:30:00 -
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PC. The only way to make dust a long life game.
I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.
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richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:34:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Cross platform! PS+XB on same server
if they managed to achieve that they'd never have to market the game all the bloggers would go nuts.
compilation of Patch/build notes
Check it out! :)
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:36:00 -
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Conversation I had with Rattati on twitter
CCP Rattati: I think it is pretty clear to everyone at CCP that a lot of players want a port to a new platform, and I do too
"Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime
Closed Beta Vet
Scout
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4lbert Wesker
Mithril Forge
E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:37:00 -
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PS4 next gen?
LOL! Come on guys,even now that PS4 hardware is old...
Console peasants...
Public skirmish = camping games,
Public domination = officer sniping games,
Public ambush = russian roulette
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
216
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:45:00 -
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anything but a PC port is fine by me. |
MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
1
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:46:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:PS4 next gen?
LOL! Come on guys,even now that PS4 hardware is old...
Console peasants...
It was old before it was even sold to the public
but its still a few dozen steps up from the ps3
hell, they could port it to the Wii U and still have more of that sweet, delicious RAM and processing power for new content |
Donald Duck 93
Prima Gallicus
0
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Posted - 2015.05.31 20:49:00 -
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PS4 plz ! Quack !
Quack Quack !
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Oskar GALLAKT
Prima Gallicus
5
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:07:00 -
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ps4 !
no limit, no fun.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:10:00 -
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I am sure this is what they are waiting on.
I can imagine some CCP meeting where one person says they should discuss plans with the comminity.
Then Rouge speaks up, "Sure, we've made promises we couldn't keep in the past, but if just a few more threads get started on the forums, that will be all the indication we need its completely safe to discuss things again. It will be proof that they are ready and will no longer exaggerate comments and have unreasonable expectations which they will berate us for not exceeding.
If only there was one brave merc willing to spam enough threads..."
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:16:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I am sure this is what they are waiting on.
I can imagine some CCP meeting where one person says they should discuss plans with the comminity.
Then Rouge speaks up, "Sure, we've made promises we couldn't keep in the past, but if just a few more threads get started on the forums, that will be all the indication we need its completely safe to discuss things again. It will be proof that they are ready and will no longer exaggerate comments and have unreasonable expectations which they will berate us for not exceeding.
If only there was one brave merc willing to spam enough threads..."
I don't mind being that guy
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:15:00 -
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OUYA! #1 Next gen console!
"I quickscoped a Dothraki Bloodrider in a 1v1" - xX69Jorah-Mormont69Xx
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Richard Gamerich-R
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:18:00 -
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PS4 and PC, but I would really like DUST 514 on PS4 because it takes the dust my PS4 (because no game interests me...). |
Knight SoIaire
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:19:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:PS4 next gen?
LOL! Come on guys,even now that PS4 hardware is old...
Console peasants...
Lol, gud one brother, high five! o/
#OUYAMasterRace
"I quickscoped a Dothraki Bloodrider in a 1v1" - xX69Jorah-Mormont69Xx
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Evan Gotabor
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:26:00 -
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PS4
Prima Gallicus diplomat
New Eden France, actualités Dust Eve et Valkyrie en français
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Riptalis
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
285
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:48:00 -
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Keep bumping for the Devs!
Port to PS4!
Python pilot, Logistics mk.0, Assault mk.0, Sentinel mk.0, Scout mk.0
Minmatar Loyalist
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NoExsplosionsMgee
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
377
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Posted - 2015.05.31 23:34:00 -
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Bump
PRAISE THE SUN!! \ |Gö¼|' /
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.06.01 00:11:00 -
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pc or ps4 heck why not both. i dont care anymore. Knowing that dust is alive and well growing on another more advanced platform is enough to put my mind at ease.
AE. PC 1.0.
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Raven Harkonen
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.06.01 01:12:00 -
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PS4... The relation in theses games between PC and CONSOLE must go on !!
Come on!! You won't play DUST and EVE in the same time on the same PC -_-'
~Un membre rond n'est pas fait pour un trou ovale!~
~A round member is not made for an oval hole!~
Marquis de Sade
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Clone D
Solo Zen
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Posted - 2015.06.01 01:23:00 -
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ps4 and pc as is. |
Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.06.01 02:55:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:Cross platform! PS+XB on same server if they managed to achieve that they'd never have to market the game all the bloggers would go nuts.
Word
!--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
New Eden's Heros
2
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Posted - 2015.06.01 02:58:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
I vote gamecube
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Templar II
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.06.01 03:02:00 -
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I agree with porting Dust 514 to PS4 like most of you do.
However there are problems, such as finding the funds to do it. Much of CCP's money goes to EVE: Online and CCP's shareholders. A PS4 port would be expensive and a lot of recoding would need to take place. With CCP's current funds for Dust 514 I do not think it would be possible. However there are two solutions
1) Donate money to CCP (In the form of Aurum/Packs)
or
2) Have CCP increase the percentage of funds given to Dust 514 and decrease the percentage of funds given to EVE: Online |
Yokal Bob
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.01 03:03:00 -
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Well whichever next gen console it comes out on, that will be the console ill buy. Hoping its the PS4 though.
Vote Dust for PS4
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Diablo Gamekeeper
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
No Context
330
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Posted - 2015.06.01 03:04:00 -
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If i could afford it, PS4
I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
510
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Posted - 2015.06.01 03:14:00 -
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sony will not allow a game with a revolutionary unique sandbox mmofps bcuz no one will play their ****** game called planetside 2 . |
thor424
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.01 03:16:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:If they're simply going to port Dust 514 to the PS4/PC I'll be extremely disappointed. I'd rather Dust 514 in it's current iteration stay on the PS3.
I want legion to happen (on PC or PS4 I'm not to fussed). A move to a new platform is the perfect opportunity to rebuild the game from the ground up and finally fulfill CCP's original vision of what Dust 514 should have been.
From what t understand Legion was going to be pretty different from Dust.
Thor's Emporium
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.06.01 03:20:00 -
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thor424 wrote:Indianna Pwns wrote:If they're simply going to port Dust 514 to the PS4/PC I'll be extremely disappointed. I'd rather Dust 514 in it's current iteration stay on the PS3.
I want legion to happen (on PC or PS4 I'm not to fussed). A move to a new platform is the perfect opportunity to rebuild the game from the ground up and finally fulfill CCP's original vision of what Dust 514 should have been. From what t understand Legion was going to be pretty different from Dust.
CCP wants to get it right this time: making PVE content first, so it doesn't end up as a lobby shooter, which Dust was never intended to be in the long run.
Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.06.01 03:22:00 -
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OP's logic:
"Because a PC port wasn't finished, CCP should pull out everything they invested in that for some reason and restart from scratch on a console they never worked on, because that will speed up the process somehow. That way it will definitely be released before the PS4 is outdated and we all start asking for a PS5 port"
Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
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Anirind Frifelt
DUST University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2015.06.01 03:24:00 -
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nintendo wii u |
Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5
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Posted - 2015.06.01 03:33:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:OP's logic:
"Because a PC port wasn't finished, CCP should pull out everything they invested in that for some reason and restart from scratch on a console they never worked on, because that will speed up the process somehow. That way it will definitely be released before the PS4 is outdated and we all start asking for a PS5 port"
Funny dust started on pc
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RA Drahcir
0uter.Heaven
479
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Posted - 2015.06.01 05:48:00 -
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my ps4 has collected enough dust, I already can play dust on it |
maybe deadcatz
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.01 07:15:00 -
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Ccp please port dust to the Nintendo DS. It has much power and Nintendo WiFi connection is very good. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.06.01 14:39:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:OP's logic:
"Because a PC port wasn't finished, CCP should pull out everything they invested in that for some reason and restart from scratch on a console they never worked on, because that will speed up the process somehow. That way it will definitely be released before the PS4 is outdated and we all start asking for a PS5 port" Funny dust started on pc
And looked much better on PC before they completely changed everything to only loosely resemble the original
Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
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Michael Epic
Horizons' Edge
No Context
941
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Posted - 2015.06.01 14:45:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:Conversation I had with Rattati on twitter
CCP Rattati: I think it is pretty clear to everyone at CCP that a lot of players want a port to a new platform, and I do too
Pics or it didn't happen.
Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn
3
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Posted - 2015.06.01 15:27:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:Conversation I had with Rattati on twitter
CCP Rattati: I think it is pretty clear to everyone at CCP that a lot of players want a port to a new platform, and I do too Pics or it didn't happen.
This and...PS4
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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g li2
Grupo de Asalto Chacal
Rise Of Legion.
834
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Posted - 2015.06.01 15:34:00 -
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I work in front of a PC. Logically I do not want to come home and play in another.
PS4
G.A.C.
CHACALES
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Riptalis
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
287
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Posted - 2015.06.01 19:58:00 -
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Bump
Python pilot, Logistics mk.0, Assault mk.0, Sentinel mk.0, Scout mk.0
Minmatar Loyalist
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.06.01 20:18:00 -
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PS4.
Microsoft is far too... intrusive with the server.
PC, well not all of us PS3 players can move to PC, nor are they ready to switch from cpntroller to keyboard.
Just hit PS4, get near PC performance, keep the guys from PS3, and pull some over from PC.
Intaki - Civire
Caldai State!
"Democracy is lies of freedom. Anarchy is it's truth."
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Posted - 2015.06.01 21:35:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
We aren't talking about it because it is a waste of time and bits.
First the game is running on Unreal Engine 3+. To move forward you would need Unreal Engine 4. It is a significantly better product and even though it was announced in 2005 it never made it to the PS3. The move to any different engine would require significant work. UE3 to UE4 alone has massive scripting differences, they are not compatible. So all the in game work is a rewrite.
The recent system change at CCP has allowed a simpler art asset pipe line. That doesn't mean that will easily translate everything in game to work on any other system. Better than the old system, yes. Easy, no.
Dust514 is profitable now. Because they cut the staff to the bone. CCP Rattati volunteered to take on this project and, even though we disagree 50% of the time, he has done a remarkable job. However, the staff available to him to do the port simply isn't there. Adding staff will make Dust514 back into a money losing project. And that would be the death of it.
So, give it up. Until CCP Rattati works out a magical solution (he might) or makes enough profit (he won't) to fund the port Dust is staying where it is.
And please don't mention MSFT again. They charge $40k to update a game. Yep, any release that touches the client software is yet another $40k hit and your profit just got a lot thinner. Plus, in the original effort MSFT wanted all purchased items to go through their store, not just AUR and packs. Their attitude changes on the perceived value of the game (think Minecraft before they bought it) and Dust doesn't have any real value.
We are scraping by, count your blessings.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5
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Posted - 2015.06.02 04:05:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3... We aren't talking about it because it is a waste of time and bits. First the game is running on Unreal Engine 3+. To move forward you would need Unreal Engine 4. It is a significantly better product and even though it was announced in 2005 it never made it to the PS3. The move to any different engine would require significant work. UE3 to UE4 alone has massive scripting differences, they are not compatible. So all the in game work is a rewrite. The recent system change at CCP has allowed a simpler art asset pipe line. That doesn't mean that will easily translate everything in game to work on any other system. Better than the old system, yes. Easy, no. Dust514 is profitable now. Because they cut the staff to the bone. CCP Rattati volunteered to take on this project and, even though we disagree 50% of the time, he has done a remarkable job. However, the staff available to him to do the port simply isn't there. Adding staff will make Dust514 back into a money losing project. And that would be the death of it. So, give it up. Until CCP Rattati works out a magical solution (he might) or makes enough profit (he won't) to fund the port Dust is staying where it is. And please don't mention MSFT again. They charge $40k to update a game. Yep, any release that touches the client software is yet another $40k hit and your profit just got a lot thinner. Plus, in the original effort MSFT wanted all purchased items to go through their store, not just AUR and packs. Their attitude changes on the perceived value of the game (think Minecraft before they bought it) and Dust doesn't have any real value. We are scraping by, count your blessings.
So keep us in the dark or wait till 90% of players have moved on ? I just want to know whether this game is still worth my time and money or just another mag repeat
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
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How about we wait for Legion instead?
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Adan Montano Pietsch wrote:How about we wait for Legion instead?
Can we have word about legion? Is it still going? Are they still gonna transfer our stuff? What's the plan? I can wait I just hate being left in the dark, what's the game plan..
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
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Not even kidding CCP: If you need help with the coding for a port, I am willing to help free of charge.
Thats how much I want this game going onto PS4.
BRB, looking for socks
PSN: tommygunboy2080
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ZED Regent
Acid Tech. 303
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Bumpin' to ps4.... (cuz my pc is crap....)
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Whenever I have asked "why isn't CCP even saying 'we are looking into it'?", it immediately does what this thread has done:
"PC Master Race!"
"No! PS4!"
"PC is more better because of EVE!"
"No Legion failed because of PC!"
It becomes a pissing contest to see who can yell "MY SIDE IS BETTER!" and the larger question of "why isn't CCP being more open with whether they intend DUST to continue past the PS3?" gets completely ignored. As to that question, there are a few possibilities:
1. They don't want to announce anything, even a "hmm, that might be a good idea", until they are locked in on what they are going to do.
2. They think any kind of transition is going to be seen as much of a failure as Rouge Wedding. "We said we were transitioning, they screamed at us." (Note, people actually screamed at how poorly this information was handled)
3. They are truly not sure if they want to continue with DUST. DUST on the PS3 is profitable; CCP could decide to just run out the clock on the PS3 and earn a little bit of money. Reinvesting into a game that has had super mixed reviews is risky.
4. The second they announce "we are thinking about transitioning", the forums will ignite into what system it should go to.
5. The second they announce "we are transitioning to X", everyone who does not have an X will immediately stop playing the game. I don't have a PS4 and don't intend to have one. If CCP announced "we are going to PS4", my interest in the game would likely evaporate. Same goes for people that are in the other boat labeled "I don't have a PC that could run it."
This is a super s*** situation we are in that only has one way of ending happily.
"We at CCP would like to announce that we have entered a deal with Sony. We are going to continue our business arrangement in regards to DUST 514. You are going to keep your character names, your Corporations, your faction standings, your SP, and a limited amount of items (we are still working on this but at the moment it is only aurum items, boosters, warbarge components, and skins/BPO's). Now that we have that out of the way...
DUST 514 is transitioning from the PS3 to the PS4 AND PC. You will be able to choose which system you wish to play and we are supporting Cross Platform Play. Finally, console players and PC players can hash out their differences by shooting each other with hot plasma!"
I hope the above announcement happens one day. I hope that they are working on the above right now, trying to make sure everything is in order before they drop that bombshell.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Heimdallr69
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3 Whenever I have asked "why isn't CCP even saying 'we are looking into it'?", it immediately does what this thread has done: "PC Master Race!" "No! PS4!" "PC is more better because of EVE!" "No Legion failed because of PC!" It becomes a pissing contest to see who can yell "MY SIDE IS BETTER!" and the larger question of "why isn't CCP being more open with whether they intend DUST to continue past the PS3?" gets completely ignored. As to that question, there are a few possibilities: 1. They don't want to announce anything, even a "hmm, that might be a good idea", until they are locked in on what they are going to do. 2. They think any kind of transition is going to be seen as much of a failure as Rouge Wedding. "We said we were transitioning, they screamed at us." (Note, people actually screamed at how poorly this information was handled) 3. They are truly not sure if they want to continue with DUST. DUST on the PS3 is profitable; CCP could decide to just run out the clock on the PS3 and earn a little bit of money. Reinvesting into a game that has had super mixed reviews is risky. 4. The second they announce "we are thinking about transitioning", the forums will ignite into what system it should go to. 5. The second they announce "we are transitioning to X", everyone who does not have an X will immediately stop playing the game. I don't have a PS4 and don't intend to have one. If CCP announced "we are going to PS4", my interest in the game would likely evaporate. Same goes for people that are in the other boat labeled "I don't have a PC that could run it." This is a super s*** situation we are in that only has one way of ending happily. "We at CCP would like to announce that we have entered a deal with Sony. We are going to continue our business arrangement in regards to DUST 514. You are going to keep your character names, your Corporations, your faction standings, your SP, and a limited amount of items (we are still working on this but at the moment it is only aurum items, boosters, warbarge components, and skins/BPO's). Now that we have that out of the way... DUST 514 is transitioning from the PS3 to the PS4 AND PC. You will be able to choose which system you wish to play and we are supporting Cross Platform Play. Finally, console players and PC players can hash out their differences by shooting each other with hot plasma!" I hope the above announcement happens one day. I hope that they are working on the above right now, trying to make sure everything is in order before they drop that bombshell.
I was thinking that too...I guess after 4+ years I'm sad that it could all end...this is the only game I've truly enjoyed hours upon hours And never got tired of it
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
A Nextgen Port will only be a temporary solution at best. These consoles are already 2 to 3 years old with their hardware already being 5 years or so old. And a nextGen Version would just hold the game back again. So please don't do it CCP. Bring it to PC and be done with it. A game which is changing as fast as Dust needs a platform that can keep up with these changes. And the only platform which can do this is the PC.
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General John Ripper
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They should bring back legion.
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Immortal John Ripper
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They should bring back legion.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 10:09:00 -
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Dust ps4 legion PC... Then we get both players and cross platform play
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Damodred Matari
Heavy Support INC
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:sony will not allow a game with a revolutionary unique sandbox mmofps bcuz no one will play their ****** game called planetside 2 .
SOE a while back became daybreak games.
Invalid.
Shut fi yuh mout before mi bax yuh
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YUUKI TERUMI
0uter.Heaven
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Well, ps4/pc is obviously better because it would be more open source and more people could play it
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castba
Rogue Instincts
924
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Posted - 2015.06.02 12:22:00 -
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How about the next Nintendo machine?
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Clone D
Solo Zen
1
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ZED Regent
Acid Tech. 303
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Clone D wrote:You left out the keyword NAO from the title. If you don't put that in, then they won't do it right now.
doesn't work on my gf though... 
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thor424
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:A PC port has been in progress for well over a year now.
We haven't heard **** about it, but it's what we've got.
The last time a dev said anything about PS4, they said they have no plans to port to a console, because PC is easier to develop on.
When they announced it at FF 2014, they'd been working on it for at least 6 months. Enough to have a playable demo. That would be over 18 months ago and not a word.
If you believe Legion is still being worked on, well I'm not really sure what else to say without being mean.
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dust will not benefit much from just a port to next gen it needs a new name to receive a new game rating currently 4/10 if i am right which is terrible. legion would allow them to gain a greater score enticing new customers, the rating of the companies game will also dictate if Sony will want it to be represented by a game.
im all for the PS4 why port a game exclusive to the PS3 to a PC = Stupid
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REDBACK96USMC
NORTH K0REA
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I honestly do not get what the hold up is for this. The programming is very similar to PC these days and porting has been simplified by PS and Microsoft both. Now from PS3 to those, maybe not. But still, c'mon man!
If they were to stop developing this version and say all resources are going to a next gen development effort, I would probably be inclined to drop some cash while toughing out the rest of this versions life. |
Heimdallr69
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REDBACK96USMC wrote:I honestly do not get what the hold up is for this. The programming is very similar to PC these days and porting has been simplified by PS and Microsoft both. Now from PS3 to those, maybe not. But still, c'mon man!
If they were to stop developing this version and say all resources are going to a next gen development effort, I would probably be inclined to drop some cash while toughing out the rest of this versions life.
Yeah same here..
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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I'm ok with either PC or PS4.
However, for the sake of convenience, I would go with the PS4 because there are a lot of established PSN account holders here who can benefit from this while saving CCP the hassle of having to carry over PSN account information over to the PC.
PS: PlayStation Plus does not require paying money for online multiplayer if the game is free-to-play.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
RUST415
3
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I don't care which way they go -- PS4 or PC. I'd play the crap out of it.
As it is now, with a dwindling playerbase, it needs to move or it will die.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Sir Dukey wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3... I vote gamecube
Too modern. I hear the acorn atom has a decent cpu and amount of ram.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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4lbert Wesker
Mithril Forge
E-R-A
221
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:Not even kidding CCP: If you need help with the coding for a port, I am willing to help free of charge.
Thats how much I want this game going onto PS4.
No,no,no and no.I want to wait our "famous" scrubs with my keyboard and mouse.No more controllers,controlers are not for FPS games,anyone who says it is,he is a console peasant.Come on,i want to face those lolvets with my long year Battlefield/CS/CoD experience,and that's why you scrubs want it to be ported on that lousy,already outdated box full of ****. Scrubs are afraid getting rekt against professionals behind the mouse and keyboard.
Public skirmish = camping games,
Public domination = officer sniping games,
Public ambush = russian roulette
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thor424
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
340
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I don't care which way they go -- PS4 or PC. I'd play the crap out of it.
As it is now, with a dwindling playerbase, it needs to move or it will die.
And it would be too bad if it died, Dust is an awesome game.
They have to have a better idea of the player numbers than we do. I'm convinced the numbers are really, really low considering people logging in on alts for their labs. There's no telling how many of the logins you see are on for less than a few minutes.
I'm not able to play much at the moment, but last week was pretty bad. FW was busy, but I've heard that's dying down. I love what they are doing with Dust at the moment, but it seems they need to make an announcement soon or people are going to take it as a sign that it's going to die on the PS3.
I'm not sure how fun Dust is going to be if the numbers shrink much more.
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Mex-0
Corrosive Synergy
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PS2, maybe iPad
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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PC or at the very least, PS4. Dude I want to see this game on current gen!!
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 01:59:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:Not even kidding CCP: If you need help with the coding for a port, I am willing to help free of charge.
Thats how much I want this game going onto PS4. No,no,no and no.I want to wait our "famous" scrubs with my keyboard and mouse.No more controllers,controlers are not for FPS games,anyone who says it is,he is a console peasant.Come on,i want to face those lolvets with my long year Battlefield/CS/CoD experience,and that's why you scrubs want it to be ported on that lousy,already outdated box full of ****. Scrubs are afraid getting rekt against professionals behind the mouse and keyboard.
I r@pe most of you with a controller not to mention I've had a TFCC tear for the past year...had surgery a week ago....so yes wait for the kbm and when I heal the QQ will be amazing =ƒÿê
kbm= EZ mode
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Heimdallr69
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thor424 wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:I don't care which way they go -- PS4 or PC. I'd play the crap out of it.
As it is now, with a dwindling playerbase, it needs to move or it will die.
And it would be too bad if it died, Dust is an awesome game. They have to have a better idea of the player numbers than we do. I'm convinced the numbers are really, really low considering people logging in on alts for their labs. There's no telling how many of the logins you see are on for less than a few minutes. I'm not able to play much at the moment, but last week was pretty bad. FW was busy, but I've heard that's dying down. I love what they are doing with Dust at the moment, but it seems they need to make an announcement soon or people are going to take it as a sign that it's going to die on the PS3. I'm not sure how fun Dust is going to be if the numbers shrink much more.
No one wants to play PS3 anymore...especially when they have a ps4/vita/Xbox one/gaming PC
If it wasn't for dust I'd be on my other goodies 23/7. Hour a day for hentai
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Foehammerr
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.03 02:24:00 -
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I, along with the majority of people here, agree that next port should be PS4. If it wasn't for the fact that the ps3 runs on Linux based architecture and the PS4 is x86 based, the probably would have already happened. However since the PS4 is based on mid level pc specs, it would be technically possible to do a dual port in PS4 and pc. The only difference between the two would be if you're paying for a higher end pc, you'll get a shinier version and perhaps access to a DUST version of SISI which is the public test server.
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Jammer Jalapeno
Dox You.
Proficiency V.
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I'll jump on this bandwagon
PS4!!!!
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
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Even though this thread was obvious with the first post, I guess I'll continue the trend and say PS4.
Dust 514 was billed back in 2009 as being designed to bring console gamers into New Eden, and leaving them behind to try and appeal to PC gamers would be counter to everything the game stood for.
I don't think I'm too self-entitled to believe that we've earned our place in New Eden.
Indianna Pwns wrote:If they're simply going to port Dust 514 to the PS4/PC I'll be extremely disappointed. I'd rather Dust 514 in it's current iteration stay on the PS3.
I want legion to happen (on PC or PS4 I'm not to fussed). A move to a new platform is the perfect opportunity to rebuild the game from the ground up and finally fulfill CCP's original vision of what Dust 514 should have been.
Legion wasn't rebuilding the game from the ground up.
If you watch those FanFest uploads and listen to people who went to the Round Tables, EVE: Legion was the current game with a graphical coat of polish still running on the same buggy platform of Unreal Engine 3 piled under all the extra code they added on over time.
It was literally all the same problems we have right now swept under a pretty looking sheet with a different name on the box.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Even though this thread was obvious with the first post, I guess I'll continue the trend and say PS4. Dust 514 was billed back in 2009 as being designed to bring console gamers into New Eden, and leaving them behind to try and appeal to PC gamers would be counter to everything the game stood for. I don't think I'm too self-entitled to believe that we've earned our place in New Eden. Indianna Pwns wrote:If they're simply going to port Dust 514 to the PS4/PC I'll be extremely disappointed. I'd rather Dust 514 in it's current iteration stay on the PS3.
I want legion to happen (on PC or PS4 I'm not to fussed). A move to a new platform is the perfect opportunity to rebuild the game from the ground up and finally fulfill CCP's original vision of what Dust 514 should have been. Legion wasn't rebuilding the game from the ground up. If you watch those FanFest uploads and listen to people who went to the Round Tables, EVE: Legion was the current game with a graphical coat of polish still running on the same buggy platform of Unreal Engine 3 piled under all the extra code they added on over time. It was literally all the same problems we have right now swept under a pretty looking sheet with a different name on the box.
Seriosly??? WTF not cool, they need to work on the gun mechanics and movement mechanics as a priority not just make it pretty and say it's finished. I swear if Legion does happen, and bunny hopping matrix strafing is still a thing I'LL, I'LL...... I'll probably still play it . But seriously, not cool. I hope it's not subscription based either, or maybe if they do do that, then bust an ESO an make it free to play on consoles. That's if Legion ever happens and they decide to port it........
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.06.03 10:21:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Dust ps4 legion PC... Then we get both players and cross platform play
And a game which will have the same problems it has now in a few years like being dependent on Sony support to check patches. No. Cross platform play would hurt that game so much.
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.03 12:29:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Dust ps4 legion PC... Then we get both players and cross platform play And a game which will have the same problems it has now in a few years like being dependent on Sony support to check patches. No. Cross platform play would hurt that game so much.
Having discussed the issue with both PC and Console users, the control issue would also be nearly insurmountable.
Decelerated controls for mice like we have in Dust right now would be an instant turnoff for the PC community as much raw mouse input would be an instant turnoff for the Console community.
Add negative public opinion of aim-assist into the mix, and you'd have a game that would alienate most of the people you want to play it. As much as cross-play sounds like an easy fix, there's a reason no other shooter has it.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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PS4/Morpheus ... support VR, change the name use the same server side stuff. |
Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
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Crash Monster wrote:PS4/Morpheus ... support VR, change the name use the same server side stuff.
There's been posts about this before, but basically VR doesn't work for an FPS that isn't built to be slow-paced like Arma or Star Citizen.
With a game like Dust you'd rapidly get motion sickness because your body can't move that way and there's not enough physical frame of reference to offset that. In the case of EVE: Valkyrie, the cockpit of your figther provides an anchor point for your perspective in order to counter motion-sickness.
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:[quote=Crash Monster]With a game like Dust you'd rapidly get motion sickness because your body can't move that way and there's not enough physical frame of reference to offset that.
Put in a HUD (opacity and amount of detail configurable) and use the suit as you would a ship cockpit?
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Crash Monster wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:[quote=Crash Monster]With a game like Dust you'd rapidly get motion sickness because your body can't move that way and there's not enough physical frame of reference to offset that. Put in a HUD (opacity and amount of detail configurable) and use the suit as you would a ship cockpit?
I'm not sure that's enough. You need to understand that having your character going 6+ m/s in one direction and then switching back to the other direction almost without slowing down would rapidly have you feeling like you were going to vomit.
As well, the minimum price point of that tech is likely to be 150 USD. Putting the game behind a further paywall or just putting in support for a device that gives players with it the unfair advantage of looking in other directions while still keeping their aim forward is not a good way to bring in more customers.
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:I'm not sure that's enough. You need to understand that having your character going 6+ m/s in one direction and then switching back to the other direction almost without slowing down would rapidly have you feeling like you were going to vomit.
Hmm, the player with the strongest stomach wins?
Quote:As well, the minimum price point of that tech is likely to be 150 USD. Putting the game behind a further paywall or just putting in support for a device that gives players with it the unfair advantage of looking in other directions while still keeping their aim forward is not a good way to bring in more customers.
Good point. Not sure there are many new folks coming in on the PS3 now though. |
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Crash Monster wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:I'm not sure that's enough. You need to understand that having your character going 6+ m/s in one direction and then switching back to the other direction almost without slowing down would rapidly have you feeling like you were going to vomit. Hmm, the player with the strongest stomach wins? Quote:As well, the minimum price point of that tech is likely to be 150 USD. Putting the game behind a further paywall or just putting in support for a device that gives players with it the unfair advantage of looking in other directions while still keeping their aim forward is not a good way to bring in more customers. Good point. Not sure there are many new folks coming in on the PS3 now though.
Which is also true, and your suggestion was aimed in a good direction. Providing a fresh new experience is a good way to bring in new customers.
VR just isn't the best way to execute on that. HOWEVER, the sense of first-person immersion that the Valkyrie experience is designed around could easily be applied to Dust even without a VR headset.
As an example, here is a video of an FPS build from the recent Star Citizen asset leak.
As you can see, it does quite a good job of making you feel like you're inside the helmet. I think if CCP Shanghai cooperated with CCP Newcastle and swapped some ideas they could come up with a first-person interface that's as immersive as what I linked.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 17:52:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:I'm not sure that's enough. You need to understand that having your character going 6+ m/s in one direction and then switching back to the other direction almost without slowing down would rapidly have you feeling like you were going to vomit. Hmm, the player with the strongest stomach wins? Quote:As well, the minimum price point of that tech is likely to be 150 USD. Putting the game behind a further paywall or just putting in support for a device that gives players with it the unfair advantage of looking in other directions while still keeping their aim forward is not a good way to bring in more customers. Good point. Not sure there are many new folks coming in on the PS3 now though. Which is also true, and your suggestion was aimed in a good direction. Providing a fresh new experience is a good way to bring in new customers. VR just isn't the best way to execute on that. HOWEVER, the sense of first-person immersion that the Valkyrie experience is designed around could easily be applied to Dust even without a VR headset. As an example, here is a video of an FPS build from the recent Star Citizen asset leak. As you can see, it does quite a good job of making you feel like you're inside the helmet. I think if CCP Shanghai cooperated with CCP Newcastle and swapped some ideas they could come up with a first-person interface that's as immersive as what I linked.
That'd actually be pretty cool
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http://time.com/3676679/xbox-one-windows-10/
http://www.xbox.com/en-us/windows-10
It appears in the near future PC/Xbox one will have cross platform play
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PS4!!!!! |
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Posted - 2015.06.03 21:47:00 -
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Or what if we had Dust on PC then made it support controller play as well as kb/m. |
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Can't like this enough. My vote is for the PS4 but I'd settle for a pc or Xbox port. |
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Templar II wrote:Or what if we had Dust on PC then made it support controller play as well as kb/m.
Controller players would get dunked no matter what, unless you gave them enough aim-assist to compete at which point the mouse users would quit because of the "console aim-bot".
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
I'm not sure that's enough. You need to understand that having your character going 6+ m/s in one direction and then switching back to the other direction almost without slowing down would rapidly have you feeling like you were going to vomit.
As well, the minimum price point of that tech is likely to be 150 USD. Putting the game behind a further paywall or just putting in support for a device that gives players with it the unfair advantage of looking in other directions while still keeping their aim forward is not a good way to bring in more customers.
Plus there's the whole framerate issue
The VR equipment developers are pretty adamant about high framerates being necessary for comfort. Recommended minimum PC specs for the Oculus Rift: a several hundred dollar Nvidia GTX 970 or AMD Radeon 290 (not including the rest of the computer)
Meanwhile, the Morpheus gets to be powered by the PS4, with its constant struggle to ever get above a "cinematic" "IT WAS AN ARTISTIC CHOICE WE SWEAR" 30 frames per second in triple-A games
I've got a hard time believing anyone can pull off a multiplayer VR FPS on the PS4 at a framerate that won't give its users migraines without cutting so many corners that the kiddies who probably never owned a PS2 start bitching about "lol PS2 grafix" |
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If Dust is to truly become a game that never dies then it needs to be on a platform that can evolve with it, which is PC.
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^ this.... although i prefer ps4, but then again, can one have too many consoles?
edit: damm typos....
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ZED Regent wrote:^ this.... although i prefer ps4, but then again, can one have too many consoles? edit: damm typos....
We've been over this before. Microsoft turned CCP down on Dust apparently, and neither company will support a game that requires open cross-play with their competitor. That's just not good business.
Whatever platform Dust moves to, it will have to be ONLY that platform.
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Hello people of Dust 514.
From what I have heard CCP has already tried to push Sony to port Dust 514 to PS4 already. However Sony denied it under the grounds that it had "Too many bugs." So to port Dust 514 to PS4 it would have to be spotless in term of bugs, and with every new major update, there is always new bugs. Heck, there's new bugs from the updates that are supposed to fix the existing bugs.
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Hello people of Dust 514.
From what I have heard CCP has already tried to push Sony to port Dust 514 to PS4 already. However Sony denied it under the grounds that it had "Too many bugs." So to port Dust 514 to PS4 it would have to be spotless in term of bugs, and with every new major update, there is always new bugs. Heck, there's new bugs from the updates that are supposed to fix the existing bugs.
*Source: G0DS AM0NG MEN
Lmao
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Go ******* pc and put it on steam.
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Dust 514 is declining now, and when you go below peak 1000 active players its going to decline rapidly (Source: Any other game that declines below 1000 active).
I really hope CCP is going to present the Plan B soon.
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I vote PS4 |
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bathtubist wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3... I would do ps4/PC Since I gotta pay for online services for playstation now Why the hell did they do that
because the PS3 online was soooooooooooooooooo far behind the xbox 360 since they had a paid sub there was a lot more they could do |
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Heimdallr69 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Hello people of Dust 514.
From what I have heard CCP has already tried to push Sony to port Dust 514 to PS4 already. However Sony denied it under the grounds that it had "Too many bugs." So to port Dust 514 to PS4 it would have to be spotless in term of bugs, and with every new major update, there is always new bugs. Heck, there's new bugs from the updates that are supposed to fix the existing bugs.
*Source: G0DS AM0NG MEN Lmao
Obviously completely legitimate info.
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Hello people of Dust 514.
From what I have heard CCP has already tried to push Sony to port Dust 514 to PS4 already. However Sony denied it under the grounds that it had "Too many bugs." So to port Dust 514 to PS4 it would have to be spotless in term of bugs, and with every new major update, there is always new bugs. Heck, there's new bugs from the updates that are supposed to fix the existing bugs.
*Source: G0DS AM0NG MEN Lmao Obviously completely legitimate info.
totally legit, I saw it documentend in secrit word files! |
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PS4
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Spectral Clone wrote:Dust 514 is declining now, and when you go below peak 1000 active players its going to decline rapidly (Source: Any other game that declines below 1000 active).
I really hope CCP is going to present the Plan B soon. The CEO of CCP is in Shanghai right now. I wonder if that is a sign of some movement.
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Ripley Riley wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Dust 514 is declining now, and when you go below peak 1000 active players its going to decline rapidly (Source: Any other game that declines below 1000 active).
I really hope CCP is going to present the Plan B soon. The CEO of CCP is in Shanghai right now. I wonder if that is a sign of some movement.
I'm going to view it in a positive light, if nothing else it at least tells us that Hilmar knows where Shanghai is. Or at least which plane to catch to get there ;)
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PS4
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Hello people of Dust 514.
From what I have heard CCP has already tried to push Sony to port Dust 514 to PS4 already. However Sony denied it under the grounds that it had "Too many bugs." So to port Dust 514 to PS4 it would have to be spotless in term of bugs, and with every new major update, there is always new bugs. Heck, there's new bugs from the updates that are supposed to fix the existing bugs.
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BUGS 514 soon on PS4 ....
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Ripley Riley wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Dust 514 is declining now, and when you go below peak 1000 active players its going to decline rapidly (Source: Any other game that declines below 1000 active).
I really hope CCP is going to present the Plan B soon. The CEO of CCP is in Shanghai right now. I wonder if that is a sign of some movement.
I certainly hope that's a good sign.
It had certainly better not be leading to the announcement of Dust 514 exclusive to PC and a shutdown date for the PS3 version. Hopefully they learned from the last time they did that.
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Dust 514 is declining now, and when you go below peak 1000 active players its going to decline rapidly (Source: Any other game that declines below 1000 active).
I really hope CCP is going to present the Plan B soon. The CEO of CCP is in Shanghai right now. I wonder if that is a sign of some movement. I certainly hope that's a good sign. It had certainly better not be leading to the announcement of Dust 514 exclusive to PC and a shutdown date for the PS3 version. Hopefully they learned from the last time they did that.
Maybe they like to see their players support PC/next gen.. Last time I made a thread like this 90% were saying to keep on PS3 cuz they didn't feel like buying a ps4 or PC they'd rather let the game die..those players either moved on or have next gen now so the results are different this time around...they've done what they could with PS3 now it's time to see what possibilities next gen/PC holds for this game. PS3 was a good testing now time for the real deal
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Dust 514 is declining now, and when you go below peak 1000 active players its going to decline rapidly (Source: Any other game that declines below 1000 active).
I really hope CCP is going to present the Plan B soon. The CEO of CCP is in Shanghai right now. I wonder if that is a sign of some movement. I certainly hope that's a good sign. It had certainly better not be leading to the announcement of Dust 514 exclusive to PC and a shutdown date for the PS3 version. Hopefully they learned from the last time they did that. Maybe they like to see their players support PC/next gen.. Last time I made a thread like this 90% were saying to keep on PS3 cuz they didn't feel like buying a ps4 or PC they'd rather let the game die..those players either moved on or have next gen now so the results are different this time around...they've done what they could with PS3 now it's time to see what possibilities next gen/PC holds for this game. PS3 was a good testing now time for the real deal
I agree, but I personally oppose any move away from the PSN. Moving up to the new console has always been a reality of console gaming, and PS3 owners will do so when there is enough incentive for them.
Moving it completely off the PSN, or worse yet halting development on PSN to build a PC game with less freedom and no link to EVE Online is something I think many of us can agree would be a bad move.
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ZED Regent wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Hello people of Dust 514.
From what I have heard CCP has already tried to push Sony to port Dust 514 to PS4 already. However Sony denied it under the grounds that it had "Too many bugs." So to port Dust 514 to PS4 it would have to be spotless in term of bugs, and with every new major update, there is always new bugs. Heck, there's new bugs from the updates that are supposed to fix the existing bugs.
*Source: G0DS AM0NG MEN BUGS 514 soon on PS4 ....
You made me laugh bro.
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Isa Lucifer wrote:ZED Regent wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Hello people of Dust 514.
From what I have heard CCP has already tried to push Sony to port Dust 514 to PS4 already. However Sony denied it under the grounds that it had "Too many bugs." So to port Dust 514 to PS4 it would have to be spotless in term of bugs, and with every new major update, there is always new bugs. Heck, there's new bugs from the updates that are supposed to fix the existing bugs.
*Source: G0DS AM0NG MEN BUGS 514 soon on PS4 .... You made me laugh bro.
At least I could make vids =ƒÿë
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Isa Lucifer wrote:ZED Regent wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Hello people of Dust 514.
From what I have heard CCP has already tried to push Sony to port Dust 514 to PS4 already. However Sony denied it under the grounds that it had "Too many bugs." So to port Dust 514 to PS4 it would have to be spotless in term of bugs, and with every new major update, there is always new bugs. Heck, there's new bugs from the updates that are supposed to fix the existing bugs.
*Source: G0DS AM0NG MEN BUGS 514 soon on PS4 .... You made me laugh bro. At least I could make vids =ƒÿë
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Bump.
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Sega Megadrive NAO!!! Port NAO!! 16-bit glory!!!
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I REALLY want DUST 514 to succeed. DUST is truly unique. To see it die out before I can even get back on to play it one last time is really going to suck. CCP Take our suggestion and import DUST 514 to the PlayStation 4, I and many are making this petition for the fanbase to grow, and you're business will spread out. |
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"Soon" (TM) |
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I have ps4. I will buy xboxone for dust. I will not buy a pc tho. I hope they keep this a console game. |
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Let me say this, and I don't know if you all agree but....
I would happily pay for this game on ps4. And I don't care if it's the standard 50-60 or a subscription or what. |
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clown babee wrote:Let me say this, and I don't know if you all agree but....
I would happily pay for this game on ps4. And I don't care if it's the standard 50-60 or a subscription or what.
Same here, although if it was subscription I hope they would add a PLEX for Dust.
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Seems like a few of the Dust fans are programmers. Why not crowd source, create a public migration project, and get this ball rolling?
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Michael Epic wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:Conversation I had with Rattati on twitter
CCP Rattati: I think it is pretty clear to everyone at CCP that a lot of players want a port to a new platform, and I do too Pics or it didn't happen.
Pics of it did happeninging
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Draxus Prime wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:Conversation I had with Rattati on twitter
CCP Rattati: I think it is pretty clear to everyone at CCP that a lot of players want a port to a new platform, and I do too Pics or it didn't happen. Pics of it did happeninging
Yes, but that response was to a tweet that mentioned either PS4 or PC.
The focus needs to be on a platform upgrade that doesn't discard the current community.
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Ripley Riley wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Dust 514 is declining now, and when you go below peak 1000 active players its going to decline rapidly (Source: Any other game that declines below 1000 active).
I really hope CCP is going to present the Plan B soon. The CEO of CCP is in Shanghai right now. I wonder if that is a sign of some movement.
Maybe they got their **** together now, since according to my knowledge, CCP did not lay off 90% of the Shanghai office, the people working in CCP Shanghai except for the small team updating Dust 514 must be doing something on their payroll.
Where is CCP Rouge by the way?
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Spectral Clone wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Dust 514 is declining now, and when you go below peak 1000 active players its going to decline rapidly (Source: Any other game that declines below 1000 active).
I really hope CCP is going to present the Plan B soon. The CEO of CCP is in Shanghai right now. I wonder if that is a sign of some movement. Maybe they got their **** together now, since according to my knowledge, CCP did not lay off 90% of the Shanghai office, the people working in CCP Shanghai except for the small team updating Dust 514 must be doing something on their payroll. Where is CCP Rouge by the way?
A friend of mine pointed out that that mobile game they talked about at FanFest is being made there as well.
Probably want to keep a realistic outlook.
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New day, new bump....
Would be nice to see a blue tag on this thread....
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ZED Regent wrote:
New day, new bump....
Would be nice to see a blue tag on this thread....
Posting in this tread would be construed as confirmation of a platform migration, and that would inevitably devolve into backbiting between the people who want the game to stay on PSN and the people who want to move to PC-only.
You won't see any blue tags in any thread like this until CCP upper management has an ironclad plan set up for what happens next.
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*sigh*
You're absolutly right....
i wonder if they even figured out for themself wich way they're heading...
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Hump
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Honestly doing a pretty good job keeping this on the front page.
I'm kinda tempted to post something SUPER optimistic in scope but I figure everyone will just skip past it.
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PS4!!! I want to buy myself a nice father's day present. Dust on ps4 would be f#%king beautiful.
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:ZED Regent wrote:
New day, new bump....
Would be nice to see a blue tag on this thread....
Posting in this tread would be construed as confirmation of a platform migration, and that would inevitably devolve into backbiting between the people who want the game to stay on PSN and the people who want to move to PC-only. You won't see any blue tags in any thread like this until CCP upper management has an ironclad plan set up for what happens next.
All in all, serious question.
How easy would it be to port to the PS4? Am i correct in thinking it would be easier than xbox or pc?
Vote Dust for PS4
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Yokal Bob wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:ZED Regent wrote:
New day, new bump....
Would be nice to see a blue tag on this thread....
Posting in this tread would be construed as confirmation of a platform migration, and that would inevitably devolve into backbiting between the people who want the game to stay on PSN and the people who want to move to PC-only. You won't see any blue tags in any thread like this until CCP upper management has an ironclad plan set up for what happens next. All in all, serious question. How easy would it be to port to the PS4? Am i correct in thinking it would be easier than xbox or pc?
The PS4 runs on the same x86 architecture as PCs do, unlike the super-complex CELL the PS3 runs on.
The question is primarily market-based, I would imagine.
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote:Dust on ps4 would be f#%king beautiful.
Coupled with the PSN Servers it would be even more beautiful.
Then 'Scotty' and Tranquility can get married and have butt ugly kids.
if you can dodge a Wrench....you can dodge a Duvolle.
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:ZED Regent wrote:
New day, new bump....
Would be nice to see a blue tag on this thread....
Posting in this tread would be construed as confirmation of a platform migration, and that would inevitably devolve into backbiting between the people who want the game to stay on PSN and the people who want to move to PC-only. You won't see any blue tags in any thread like this until CCP upper management has an ironclad plan set up for what happens next. All in all, serious question. How easy would it be to port to the PS4? Am i correct in thinking it would be easier than xbox or pc? The PS4 runs on the same x86 architecture as PCs do, unlike the super-complex CELL the PS3 runs on. The question is primarily market-based, I would imagine.
Super-complex cell.... hehehehe.... even CCP can hardly figure it out....
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bump
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Portabumpella...
PS4, meow!
Saying what's on people's minds
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Beam me up, Scotty...
Oh, we're on top again?
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PS4 :) This game would absolutely dominate on the PS4 space atm. All these games coming out will be nice, but Dust has always been a game that can hold your attention, or at least let you come back after you're bored with your new one, and see what's up. I've made hundreds of friends from this game, and reconnecting a lot of the veterans on PS4 would be awesome.
Yes, Id pay for this game
Yes, I'd subscribe monthly
Yes, I'd buy a PC, but not both PC and PS4
"There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner
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501st Headstrong wrote:PS4 :) This game would absolutely dominate on the PS4 space atm. All these games coming out will be nice, but Dust has always been a game that can hold your attention, or at least let you come back after you're bored with your new one, and see what's up. I've made hundreds of friends from this game, and reconnecting a lot of the veterans on PS4 would be awesome.
Yes, Id pay for this game
Yes, I'd subscribe monthly
Yes, I'd buy a PC, but not both PC and PS4
Amen....
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ZED Regent wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:PS4 :) This game would absolutely dominate on the PS4 space atm. All these games coming out will be nice, but Dust has always been a game that can hold your attention, or at least let you come back after you're bored with your new one, and see what's up. I've made hundreds of friends from this game, and reconnecting a lot of the veterans on PS4 would be awesome.
Yes, Id pay for this game
Yes, I'd subscribe monthly
Yes, I'd buy a PC, but not both PC and PS4
Amen....
That's the primary reason I wouldn't want it to move to PC. I have a PC, and I could play it if I went there, but maybe half of all the cool people I've met playing this game would make that move as well.
I want to see this game succeed, but not at the cost of leaving so many people behind.
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To me there's also an emotional sense to this,
PS has always been about having fun ,while pc ... well... feels more like work.
and i've never been a real pc-gamer...
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Heimdallr69
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Sooo, bump
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Screw ps4, everything is 100x better on PC. The sooner dust is out of the plebby console market the better
"We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends
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501st Headstrong
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Screw ps4, everything is 100x better on PC. The sooner dust is out of the plebby console market the better
You're drunk lol
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501st Headstrong wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Screw ps4, everything is 100x better on PC. The sooner dust is out of the plebby console market the better You're drunk lol
myabe i am maybe i'm not, I still speak the truth
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501st Headstrong
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Jammeh McJam wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Screw ps4, everything is 100x better on PC. The sooner dust is out of the plebby console market the better You're drunk lol myabe i am maybe i'm not, I still speak the truth
Please then tell me why PC is better than console and which one you have. Literally write out the Pros because
PS4
Cost:400 USD
Specs- Round Mid-Level Gaming PC
Voice chat- Optimize Party Chat for CrossGame Speech
Games( Exclusives)- Uncharted, God of War, Bloodbourne, Killzone, others
Why PC is invalidated- PC titles like Planetside 2 are already making the leap to.consoles.
20 million people own PS4s, and don't need to log online to Steam Via internet to play some games (Does Steam have offline? Idk)
Why Dust should move to it- I know tens of people who broke their PS3s, and didn't get new ones. They are on PS4. Imagine if one day they go to the PSN store.and see Dust on it :)
Pc might have nicer graphics, but the frame rate ranges are absurd. Why do you want 210 FPS when they can and might lock it at 60? Yay, you can see shadows more defined than me PS4, big deal...
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501st Headstrong wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Screw ps4, everything is 100x better on PC. The sooner dust is out of the plebby console market the better You're drunk lol myabe i am maybe i'm not, I still speak the truth Please then tell me why PC is better than console and which one you have. Literally write out the Pros because PS4 Cost:400 USD Specs- Round Mid-Level Gaming PC Voice chat- Optimize Party Chat for CrossGame Speech Games( Exclusives)- Uncharted, God of War, Bloodbourne, Killzone, others Why PC is invalidated- PC titles like Planetside 2 are already making the leap to.consoles. 20 million people own PS4s, and don't need to log online to Steam Via internet to play some games (Does Steam have offline? Idk) Why Dust should move to it- I know tens of people who broke their PS3s, and didn't get new ones. They are on PS4. Imagine if one day they go to the PSN store.and see Dust on it :) Pc might have nicer graphics, but the frame rate ranges are absurd. Why do you want 210 FPS when they can and might lock it at 60? Yay, you can see shadows more defined than me PS4, big deal...
ok challenge accepted
- A mid level gaming PC (similar specs to ps4) can cost less than a ps4 if it is built and not bought premade.
- There are various different voice chat softwares available on PC such as skype and teamspeak, which is already widely used in eve. (even so dust has it's own in game voice chat so what's the point)
- PC has hundreds of thousands of exclusive games. Just because the exclusive game isn't a AAA game that everyone's heard of, doesn't mean it doesn't count :)
- Steam doesn't need an internet connection to start up games, just like you don't need to be logged in to PSN to play a single player game. However just like with everything else, an internet connection is needed for multiplayer games.
- Planetside 2 is one game that's been ported over to PS4, but even so that's about as relevant as minecraft being ported to xbox.
- If people broke their PS3s and got a PS4 instead of a PC, then it's their loss if they miss out on everything the PC has to offer.
- PC does have nicer graphics and this doesn't affect framerate. Most games have a setting to enable VSync. This finds the most stable framerate your system can handle and locks it there, which can vary depending on what graphics setting you have on the game.
- PCs can not just be used for games, but pretty much everything else from coding your own games to writing a shopping list.
- If dust was to be ported to PC, it would have access to the EVE playerbase who didn't buy a Ps3 for dust. In addition to this, it would have access to the FPS, MMO and RTS markets in PC gaming.
- Dust is a game that requires a large amount of time invested into it in order to 'get good'. This is something that PC gamers in particular have because of the 'hardcore' element of PC gaming, whereas consoles are good for quickly playing a game and then moving on to other things.
- And last but definately not least, PC master race :)
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Jammeh McJam wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Screw ps4, everything is 100x better on PC. The sooner dust is out of the plebby console market the better You're drunk lol myabe i am maybe i'm not, I still speak the truth Please then tell me why PC is better than console and which one you have. Literally write out the Pros because PS4 Cost:400 USD Specs- Round Mid-Level Gaming PC Voice chat- Optimize Party Chat for CrossGame Speech Games( Exclusives)- Uncharted, God of War, Bloodbourne, Killzone, others Why PC is invalidated- PC titles like Planetside 2 are already making the leap to.consoles. 20 million people own PS4s, and don't need to log online to Steam Via internet to play some games (Does Steam have offline? Idk) Why Dust should move to it- I know tens of people who broke their PS3s, and didn't get new ones. They are on PS4. Imagine if one day they go to the PSN store.and see Dust on it :) Pc might have nicer graphics, but the frame rate ranges are absurd. Why do you want 210 FPS when they can and might lock it at 60? Yay, you can see shadows more defined than me PS4, big deal... ok challenge accepted - A mid level gaming PC (similar specs to ps4) can cost less than a ps4 if it is built and not bought premade. - There are various different voice chat softwares available on PC such as skype and teamspeak, which is already widely used in eve. (even so dust has it's own in game voice chat so what's the point) - PC has hundreds of thousands of exclusive games. Just because the exclusive game isn't a AAA game that everyone's heard of, doesn't mean it doesn't count :) - Steam doesn't need an internet connection to start up games, just like you don't need to be logged in to PSN to play a single player game. However just like with everything else, an internet connection is needed for multiplayer games. - Planetside 2 is one game that's been ported over to PS4, but even so that's about as relevant as minecraft being ported to xbox. - If people broke their PS3s and got a PS4 instead of a PC, then it's their loss if they miss out on everything the PC has to offer. - PC does have nicer graphics and this doesn't affect framerate. Most games have a setting to enable VSync. This finds the most stable framerate your system can handle and locks it there, which can vary depending on what graphics setting you have on the game. - PCs can not just be used for games, but pretty much everything else from coding your own games to writing a shopping list. - If dust was to be ported to PC, it would have access to the EVE playerbase who didn't buy a Ps3 for dust. In addition to this, it would have access to the FPS, MMO and RTS markets in PC gaming. - Dust is a game that requires a large amount of time invested into it in order to 'get good'. This is something that PC gamers in particular have because of the 'hardcore' element of PC gaming, whereas consoles are good for quickly playing a game and then moving on to other things. - And last but definately not least, PC master race :)
Edit:
Almost forgot, in addition to the games that the PC has to offer, there can also be hundreds of mods for just single games, such as skyrim and various total war games. This adds a massive amount of content for free while the PS4 is left with the core game and maybe a few DLCs (which you can also get on PC)
Edit #2
that was a fail of an edit
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Not gonna lie I'm not building ****..and I'm sure most people are with me on that... But I'm not tight on money either so that plays a part in it..PC is a good choice but so is ps4 I'm not gonna say one is better for dust cuz in reality either one would be better and the whole console and PC war is pointless we are all gamers/p0rnstars so let's unite as one... Also I prefer Xbox over ps4 =ƒÿü To each their own...
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thor424
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I have a beast mode PC and a badass laptop, I'd love for Dust to come to the PC.
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Another thing I forgot, steam has sales all the time. It's the summer sales atm and most games have ririculous discounts (85% off on some games)
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Heimdallr69
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thor424 wrote:I have a beast mode PC and a badass laptop, I'd love for Dust to come to the PC.
But I want it to move to the PS4.
My laptop is a beast cost double my ps4/Xbox one combined
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Heimdallr69 wrote:thor424 wrote:I have a beast mode PC and a badass laptop, I'd love for Dust to come to the PC.
But I want it to move to the PS4. My laptop is a beast cost double my ps4/Xbox one combined
Laptops are generally more expensive than desktops because they can only be bought prebuilt and the hardware has to be much more compact. They're no better than consoles rly, the upgradability options are very limited
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And up you go.
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Heimdallr69
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My laptop may not be as good as your desktop but it's far more convenient and it's better than consoles
Like when I look up p0rn or anything else on the web browser I don't get the "not enough space" error that the ps4 gets Soo +1 laptop
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ZED Regent
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Heimdallr69 wrote:My laptop may not be as good as your desktop but it's far more convenient and it's better than consoles
Like when I look up p0rn or anything else on the web browser I don't get the "not enough space" error that the ps4 gets Soo +1 laptop
But on your laptop, it's maybe like on a 15" screen...
while my ps is connected at a 42" screen... imagine the size of those....
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But still...
i think dust also should atract the casual gamer, heck, even ccp states it somewhere that dust can be enjoyed by them...
and for casual gamers a console is imo far better then a pc, and i can't fit a 42" screen on my desk...
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You can connect a laptop and desktop to your TV...I do it all the time..yes my wanker is 1/3 of the size but through hdmi I can get a big wanker too
Sorry I'm really really bored atm
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501st Headstrong
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Hey Heim why do you prefer Xbox 1 over PS4?
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ZED Regent wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:My laptop may not be as good as your desktop but it's far more convenient and it's better than consoles
Like when I look up p0rn or anything else on the web browser I don't get the "not enough space" error that the ps4 gets Soo +1 laptop But on your laptop, it's maybe like on a 15" screen... while my ps is connected at a 42" screen... imagine the size of those....
and with a desktop, you can connect it to whatever screen you want...
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ZED Regent wrote:
But still...
i think dust also should atract the casual gamer, heck, even ccp states it somewhere that dust can be enjoyed by them...
and for casual gamers a console is imo far better then a pc, and i can't fit a 42" screen on my desk...
While I agree that this game should be open for casual gamers, I don't think they should be the priority for the playerbase
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Mobius Wyvern
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Jammeh McJam wrote:ZED Regent wrote:
But still...
i think dust also should atract the casual gamer, heck, even ccp states it somewhere that dust can be enjoyed by them...
and for casual gamers a console is imo far better then a pc, and i can't fit a 42" screen on my desk...
While I agree that this game should be open for casual gamers, I don't think they should be the priority for the playerbase
Agreed.
Do NOT make the mistake SOE made with Star Wars Galaxies.
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But we do need some extra cannonfodder....
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Jammeh McJam wrote:
- A mid level gaming PC (similar specs to ps4) can cost less than a ps4 if it is built and not bought premade.
I would like to see the "mid" range PC that performs like a ps4 in terms of gaming.
I can buy a PS4 for 350Gé¼ on amazon. the gpu is about as powerful as a 270x, thats atleast 150Gé¼, 180Gé¼ if you actually care about your PC and want a good one with better cooling solution. ~150 for CPU and cheap motherboard
and you are already at ~300Gé¼
you still need RAM, cooler, case and power supply. your will be at ~450Gé¼ all together. with compromises you could make it for 400Gé¼ but the PC will be ******, loud, get warm and have low ram which wont compare to a PS4 in terms of performance.
the PC will also never run at 120W under load like the PS4 does. 120W PS4 vs 350W PC, if you play 5 hours a day, thats 100Gé¼ extra per year on your electricity bill in middle EU.
and games will not run as well on your PC as dedicated PS4 games using the PS4 low level API which PS4 exclusive usually do. mantle and directx12 is childs play compared to the low level API that is offered by the PS4. all other games which do not use the low level API will be about equal though.
the PLUS the PC has, if you install a free Linux distro, you can use it for work though and that is the only PLUS the mid range PC can score over the PS4. in terms of gaming, ease of maintanence and comfort in relation to cost ps4 wins out every time againts mid range PC. |
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ZED Regent wrote:But we do need some extra cannonfodder....
yeah there's nothing like padding your stats with some casuals
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Jack McReady wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:
- A mid level gaming PC (similar specs to ps4) can cost less than a ps4 if it is built and not bought premade.
I would like to see the "mid" range PC that performs like a ps4 in terms of gaming. I can buy a PS4 for 350Gé¼ on amazon. the gpu is about as powerful as a 270x, thats atleast 150Gé¼, 180Gé¼ if you actually care about your PC and want a good one with better cooling solution. ~150 for CPU and cheap motherboard and you are already at ~300Gé¼ you still need RAM, cooler, case and power supply. your will be at ~450Gé¼ all together. with compromises you could make it for 400Gé¼ but the PC will be ******, loud, get warm and have low ram which wont compare to a PS4 in terms of performance. the PC will also never run at 120W under load like the PS4 does. 120W PS4 vs 350W PC, if you play 5 hours a day, thats 100Gé¼ extra per year on your electricity bill in middle EU. and games will not run as well on your PC as dedicated PS4 games using the PS4 low level API which PS4 exclusive usually do. mantle and directx12 is childs play compared to the low level API that is offered by the PS4. all other games which do not use the low level API will be about equal though. the PLUS the PC has, if you install a free Linux distro, you can use it for work though and that is the only PLUS the mid range PC can score over the PS4. in terms of gaming, ease of maintenance and comfort in relation to cost ps4 wins out every time againts mid range PC.
- A mid range CPU will cost around -ú100,
- a decent motherboard will cost no more than -ú30,
- a mid range GPU can cost anywhere between -ú30 to -ú100,
- a basic case can cost around -ú10
- 8gb of some of the best RAM the public can buy is at most -ú50
- a 600W PSU cost me -ú30, a mid range build won't need anything near 600W
- a 1TB HDD will cost around -ú50, much more storage than a console.
- a DVD drive will cost under -ú10
- a simple mouse and keyboard will cost around -ú5
a good mid range PC will cost at most -ú400, so admittedly it's more expensive than a ps4, however when you can do so much more with a PC in terms of customization as well as just generally being able to do more, it's definitely worth an extra -ú50.
Note:
I didn't include a monitor or an OS here because PCs can be plugged into a TV instead of a monitor and linux is always an option if you want to be a pleb (windows 7 recommended though)
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501st Headstrong wrote:Hey Heim why do you prefer Xbox 1 over PS4?
I haven't been a hardcore gamer since Imps left..as a result I spend more time with media than games and not to mention the Xbox one has more appealing games to me..halo master chief just added odst for free so that's 5 games for the price of 1, halo 5 is coming out and gears of war is being remade...but ps4 has killzone, killzone hasn't been that great since 2-3..."ps4 can run 1080p while X1 is only 920" honestly can't tell the difference and X1 has better frame rates unless ps4 upped their game? X1 receives a monthly update whereas ps4 gets to it whenever they feel like it.. But the most irritating thing is the Xbox runs the web browser great (a bit slower than ps4) but the damn ps4 always gets the "not enough memory" error while on the web, it's been that way since release and they're too stupid to fix it...oh ps4 runs way louder and hotter than X1, and yes I have both I only play ps4 for my vita's sake. Also I like the snap feature on X1
Tldr; I'm more of a media person these days, only excited for halo 5(Dlc will be free)/gears of war, ps4 runs loud/hot can't properly run a web browser. http://imgur.com/CyRAzjx
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Heimdallr69 wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Hey Heim why do you prefer Xbox 1 over PS4? I haven't been a hardcore gamer since Imps left..as a result I spend more time with media than games and not to mention the Xbox one has more appealing games to me..halo master chief just added odst for free so that's 5 games for the price of 1, halo 5 is coming out and gears of war is being remade...but ps4 has killzone, killzone hasn't been that great since 2-3..."ps4 can run 1080p while X1 is only 920" honestly can't tell the difference and X1 has better frame rates unless ps4 upped their game? X1 receives a monthly update whereas ps4 gets to it whenever they feel like it.. But the most irritating thing is the Xbox runs the web browser great (a bit slower than ps4) but the damn ps4 always gets the "not enough memory" error while on the web, it's been that way since release and they're too stupid to fix it...oh ps4 runs way louder and hotter than X1, and yes I have both I only play ps4 for my vita's sake. Also I like the snap feature on X1 Tldr; I'm more of a media person these days, only excited for halo 5(Dlc will be free)/gears of war, ps4 runs loud/hot can't properly run a web browser. http://imgur.com/CyRAzjx
You know what can run a web browser rly well?
a PC
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Hey Heim why do you prefer Xbox 1 over PS4? I haven't been a hardcore gamer since Imps left..as a result I spend more time with media than games and not to mention the Xbox one has more appealing games to me..halo master chief just added odst for free so that's 5 games for the price of 1, halo 5 is coming out and gears of war is being remade...but ps4 has killzone, killzone hasn't been that great since 2-3..."ps4 can run 1080p while X1 is only 920" honestly can't tell the difference and X1 has better frame rates unless ps4 upped their game? X1 receives a monthly update whereas ps4 gets to it whenever they feel like it.. But the most irritating thing is the Xbox runs the web browser great (a bit slower than ps4) but the damn ps4 always gets the "not enough memory" error while on the web, it's been that way since release and they're too stupid to fix it...oh ps4 runs way louder and hotter than X1, and yes I have both I only play ps4 for my vita's sake. Also I like the snap feature on X1 Tldr; I'm more of a media person these days, only excited for halo 5(Dlc will be free)/gears of war, ps4 runs loud/hot can't properly run a web browser. http://imgur.com/CyRAzjx You know what can run a web browser rly well? a PC
Once again I have one.. if PC gets halo/gears of war I'd return to PC gaming 100%
Looks at windows 10
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Jammeh I'm calling you orange boy for now on
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Grease Spillett
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Honestly revealing that information would kill aur purchases. Regardless of items being transferred. Which if they did transfer items would put us vets so far ahead of new guys that we would kill out the ports chance of success. They'll have to screw the vets. So why not do it and ask forgiveness after its done?
It's gonna be like the colts getting sold to Indianapolis they will cut and run.
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Grease Spillett wrote:Honestly revealing that information would kill aur purchases. Regardless of items being transferred. Which if they did transfer items would put us vets so far ahead of new guys that we would kill out the ports chance of success. They'll have to screw the vets. So why not do it and ask forgiveness after its done?
It's gonna be like the colts getting sold to Indianapolis they will cut and run.
I doubt everyone would instantly stop buying anything if the game was announced to have a future. That wouldn't make much sense.
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:Honestly revealing that information would kill aur purchases. Regardless of items being transferred. Which if they did transfer items would put us vets so far ahead of new guys that we would kill out the ports chance of success. They'll have to screw the vets. So why not do it and ask forgiveness after its done?
It's gonna be like the colts getting sold to Indianapolis they will cut and run. I doubt everyone would instantly stop buying anything if the game was announced to have a future. That wouldn't make much sense.
The smart player would.
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Grease Spillett wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:Honestly revealing that information would kill aur purchases. Regardless of items being transferred. Which if they did transfer items would put us vets so far ahead of new guys that we would kill out the ports chance of success. They'll have to screw the vets. So why not do it and ask forgiveness after its done?
It's gonna be like the colts getting sold to Indianapolis they will cut and run. I doubt everyone would instantly stop buying anything if the game was announced to have a future. That wouldn't make much sense. The smart player would.
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thor424 wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:Honestly revealing that information would kill aur purchases. Regardless of items being transferred. Which if they did transfer items would put us vets so far ahead of new guys that we would kill out the ports chance of success. They'll have to screw the vets. So why not do it and ask forgiveness after its done?
It's gonna be like the colts getting sold to Indianapolis they will cut and run. I doubt everyone would instantly stop buying anything if the game was announced to have a future. That wouldn't make much sense. The smart player would. CCP has stated multiple times that we will take our assets. If they choose not to honor that there is no need announcing anything.
Hence the silence ?
"If" they port, battleacademy will still exist and,
the more players start with dust, the more choice scotty has...
but well...... we all know scotty.... don't we....
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Bump
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We need a greenlight. That means big CCP will have to invest in our dedicated group now. To invest in something means you have to believe in the product the "buy in" we have has to be more than the aurum or the districts we hold... It has to be us all coming together create something the gaming industry has not seen before. We create the ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR the old guard promised with the community agreeing both on EvE and Dust with little to no development action. It can be done and there is things on my end that are in the works. Have patience and support it no matter how ya feel about me and I will have a finished product everyone will +1 on.
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Heimdallr69
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benandjerrys wrote:We need a greenlight. That means big CCP will have to invest in our dedicated group now. To invest in something means you have to believe in the product the "buy in" we have has to be more than the aurum or the districts we hold... It has to be us all coming together create something the gaming industry has not seen before. We create the ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR the old guard promised with the community agreeing both on EvE and Dust with little to no development action. It can be done and there is things on my end that are in the works. Have patience and support it no matter how ya feel about me and I will have a finished product everyone will +1 on.
Honestly I'd be a lot more dedicated to this game if I knew it was being ported..but now it's ehh I'm not wasting anymore money on the lousy ps3...it could be dead in a year or 2 or it could be ported..who knows
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Sir Petersen
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Does anyone know how much it costs to move the game from PS3 to PS4? What are we talking about?
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Heimdallr69
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Sir Petersen wrote:Does anyone know how much it costs to move the game from PS3 to PS4? What are we talking about?
Idk..if they still have the PC version they could just use that and start over..PC version was better anyways
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I would happily be part of a crowd fund that was exclusive to porting Dust. At this point, i don't care if it's PC or PS4. My PS3 is almost dead at this point from age.
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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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You have to look at the business case for a port. Ask yourself what CCP would expect from its investment.
DUST was supposed to introduce the vast horde of console players to New Eden and to add a new dimension to the EVE universe. The dream was to have DUST players interact with EVE players and to write the lore together.
Right off the bat CCP's bread and butter, the EVE players, were hostile to the idea of their money going to the development of a console game. CCP stuck it out and it seemed like it might actually work for a while. Unfortunately we soon found out that CCP had no experience on either the console or FPS developement. Additionally we found that the PS3 had too many limitations to ever break free of being a small player count lobby shooter.
In addition the basic architecture of EVE and an FPS are incompatable for meaningful realtime interaction. EVE runs on a single shard mainframe in a turn based manner. Each turn is one second for normal play which is fine for a third person game. When the load gets to be too high it goes into "time dialation" where each turn takes longer than one second to process. Having our time scales shift doesn't kill simple interaction like orbital strikes, but it would be a mess if CCP wanted to implement boarding.
So what has changed in three years? CCP has a skeleton crew for a staff. The EVE players are happy to see DUST die so it doesn't interfere with funding for their game and they won't have to share power in New Eden with "console kiddies" (their term, not mine). The PS4 is new, but does even it have the power to achieve the original vision of massive battles over a large map?
What is the point of porting DUST if it is going to remain a lobby shooter isolated from the rest of New Eden? Wasn't it supposed to be "One War"? Wasn't that the whole selling point? It was supposed to expand the universe of New Eden, not just add a disconnected lobby shooter.
So what would a PS4 port bring? It would bring those console players that were the original target, so that's a plus. But would it ever achieve the orginal vision?
How a PC port? It loses out on the huge console population and risks angering a significant portion of the current player base. On the other hand it provides the best opportunity to integrate DUST with the rest of New Eden.
What would it cost? Well, CCP would have to start pretty much from scratch with a new engine. They would have to staff a fairly large development team for a couple years before they had something playable. They would have to convince the EVE players that this was a good use of their money. A PC port would probably have a better chance with that crowd.
What are the risks? Those include failure to build a decent game due to lack of expertise and the current competition in the PC marketplace. CCP has already demonstrated a lack of FPS development skills with the current game. Then there is the competition. PS2 is a favorite of the massive battle crowd and it has a significant head start. Star Citizen, though still in Alpha, promises to be a true "One Universe" game with the same character piloting capitall ships, one man fighters, and fighting hand to hand all in first person. SC has the advantage of being designed from the ground up as a single universe, a huge fan base, a ton of money, a huge skilled development team, and a head start.
If you were CCP and looking at it from a fiscal perspective what would you decide?
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Skihids wrote:Star Citizen, though still in Alpha, promises to be a true "One Universe" game with the same character piloting capitall ships, one man fighters, and fighting hand to hand all in first person. The FPS module of Star Citizen has been placed on hold indefinitely...
https://www.polygon.com/2015/6/30/8871167/star-citizens-fps-module-delayed-indefinitely
Skihids wrote:If you were CCP and looking at it from a fiscal perspective what would you decide? PC would expand my audience and offer more flexibility with development. Get Dust 514 into a balanced, stable state to be ported then pull the trigger. There is still a place for a New Eden FPS.
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy
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If Dust moves to ps4... I'll get a ps4... But I will not be playing Dust... I won't waste my time playing a game that causes rage and depression when there is much more awesome games I could be playing(The Division. Ghost recon wildlands, the new ff, that game about robot dinosaurs with the female protagonist. Just to name a few on my list) |
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Louis, Horizon Zero Dawn.
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Golden Day
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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I'd prefer to port dust to Ps 4 due to the fact everyone will have the same thing and also because ps4 is awesome....
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Jammeh McJam
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Golden Day wrote:I'd prefer to port dust to Ps 4 due to the fact everyone will have the same thing and also because ps4 is awesome....
INB4 PC MASTER RACE CONSOLE BASHING
bit late
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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Ripley Riley wrote:Skihids wrote:Star Citizen, though still in Alpha, promises to be a true "One Universe" game with the same character piloting capitall ships, one man fighters, and fighting hand to hand all in first person. The FPS module of Star Citizen has been placed on hold indefinitely... https://www.polygon.com/2015/6/30/8871167/star-citizens-fps-module-delayed-indefinitelySkihids wrote:If you were CCP and looking at it from a fiscal perspective what would you decide? PC would expand my audience and offer more flexibility with development. Get Dust 514 into a balanced, stable state to be ported then pull the trigger. There is still a place for a New Eden FPS.
The "indefinite delay" doesn't mean "dead" like it might in another context. It simply means the development team isn't going to give a hard date for all the same reasons CCP avoids telling us until a build is through QA. Even if it turns out to be a four or five month delay it is still coming. I didn't claim Star Citizen was ready to launch, what I did say was that it has the architecture to be able to have first person ship piloting along with FPS for boarding fights. That's a HUGE thing that EVE doesn't have.
I've got 67M SP and a lot of time invested in DUST and I'd love to see a port. I would love to see it expand in scope where my favorite pastime of dropship piloting would actually mean something in terms of passenger transport and arial support. From a player perspective that is gold. Unfortunately CCP has to see a valid business case before they take action and I don't know if they can make one. |
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Sir Petersen wrote:Does anyone know how much it costs to move the game from PS3 to PS4? What are we talking about?
It depends on what they want to do with it.
The game has allegedly bad coding and the engine is a customized version of the unreal 3 engine and optimized(barely) for the Ps3 . Many of the original programmers are long gone and so with the knowledge and experience. It would be costly and time consuming to get many people up to speed I would think and then get it ported to a platform that is very different, and the developers might discover issues big or small when porting considering the situation. Also they would have to hire a bunch more people. It would probably cost a lot of money unless they outsource it. |
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
Dust x86 has to be a thing if this game is going to survive long term. It really would be nice to get some communication on it.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
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Skihids wrote:You have to look at the business case for a port. Ask yourself what CCP would expect from its investment.
DUST was supposed to introduce the vast horde of console players to New Eden and to add a new dimension to the EVE universe. The dream was to have DUST players interact with EVE players and to write the lore together.
Right off the bat CCP's bread and butter, the EVE players, were hostile to the idea of their money going to the development of a console game. CCP stuck it out and it seemed like it might actually work for a while. Unfortunately we soon found out that CCP had no experience on either the console or FPS developement. Additionally we found that the PS3 had too many limitations to ever break free of being a small player count lobby shooter.
In addition the basic architecture of EVE and an FPS are incompatable for meaningful realtime interaction. EVE runs on a single shard mainframe in a turn based manner. Each turn is one second for normal play which is fine for a third person game. When the load gets to be too high it goes into "time dialation" where each turn takes longer than one second to process. Having our time scales shift doesn't kill simple interaction like orbital strikes, but it would be a mess if CCP wanted to implement boarding.
So what has changed in three years? CCP has a skeleton crew for a staff. The EVE players are happy to see DUST die so it doesn't interfere with funding for their game and they won't have to share power in New Eden with "console kiddies" (their term, not mine). The PS4 is new, but does even it have the power to achieve the original vision of massive battles over a large map?
What is the point of porting DUST if it is going to remain a lobby shooter isolated from the rest of New Eden? Wasn't it supposed to be "One War"? Wasn't that the whole selling point? It was supposed to expand the universe of New Eden, not just add a disconnected lobby shooter.
So what would a PS4 port bring? It would bring those console players that were the original target, so that's a plus. But would it ever achieve the orginal vision?
How a PC port? It loses out on the huge console population and risks angering a significant portion of the current player base. On the other hand it provides the best opportunity to integrate DUST with the rest of New Eden.
What would it cost? Well, CCP would have to start pretty much from scratch with a new engine. They would have to staff a fairly large development team for a couple years before they had something playable. They would have to convince the EVE players that this was a good use of their money. A PC port would probably have a better chance with that crowd.
What are the risks? Those include failure to build a decent game due to lack of expertise and the current competition in the PC marketplace. CCP has already demonstrated a lack of FPS development skills with the current game. Then there is the competition. PS2 is a favorite of the massive battle crowd and it has a significant head start. Star Citizen, though still in Alpha, promises to be a true "One Universe" game with the same character piloting capitall ships, one man fighters, and fighting hand to hand all in first person. SC has the advantage of being designed from the ground up as a single universe, a huge fan base, a ton of money, a huge skilled development team, and a head start.
If you were CCP and looking at it from a fiscal perspective what would you decide?
I would be transparent with the playerbase. We aren't asking for a port this second. But we would like anything. How much does it cost to port to PS4 vs PC? I'm positive that if it was stated, people wpuld publicly start funding. Hell I'd pledge 100 bucks immediately. What are current roadblocks to such a goal? Lack of people? Then where the hell is the Legion team? Is Legion dead? Are you waiting for something to show that will impress? Has Sony been potentially receptive to a Dust port? Do Eve Players want an FPS, as in is there a market?
Planetside 2 as people have described to me is massive...but not deep or competitive. They may add something like PC, but being able to fit 300+ players on one screen is quite an achievement on the PS4. Headstart? Absolutely. However that gap id only widening. People's PS3s are dying legt and right, including mine as of yesterday, and I am very hardpressed to buy one just for Dust. Anything, even a reason as to why a port isnt a thought atm, be it balance issues or coding, is better than silence. 07
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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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It would be nice to know what CCP is thinking, but we do have some information. Project Legion has been silent since its introduction over a year ago. We would have seen something this last Fanfest if it were still being developed so we can infer that it's dead. Couple that with no sign of hiring the necessary skills and we can infer there are no plans to resurrect it. That eliminates a PC port.
We haven't seen signs of hiring the skills for a PS4 port either. The current DUST team is too small to both update the current game and perform the huge task of a rewrite on a new engine.
Then there is the silence.
That's the worst indicator.
Talk of a PC or PS4 port would provoke a portion of the player base, but it would energize the rest far more. Any hope for the future would be welcome even if it weren't for your favorite platform.
The silence says that they don't have any plans to port. It makes sense to be silent if the alternative is to crush all hope for the future.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
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Can we get a CPM on this please????? Just to tell Rat that we woukd likecto start a discussion on it? Even him just saying, "Busy with balance, but asking Rouge" is something
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
976
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Ripley Riley wrote:Louis, Horizon Zero Dawn.
Thanks man, I was looking for the game on youtube yesterday, but forgot its name. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.07.14 10:49:00 -
[219] - Quote
Jammeh McJam wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:
- A mid level gaming PC (similar specs to ps4) can cost less than a ps4 if it is built and not bought premade.
I would like to see the "mid" range PC that performs like a ps4 in terms of gaming. I can buy a PS4 for 350Gé¼ on amazon. the gpu is about as powerful as a 270x, thats atleast 150Gé¼, 180Gé¼ if you actually care about your PC and want a good one with better cooling solution. ~150 for CPU and cheap motherboard and you are already at ~300Gé¼ you still need RAM, cooler, case and power supply. your will be at ~450Gé¼ all together. with compromises you could make it for 400Gé¼ but the PC will be ******, loud, get warm and have low ram which wont compare to a PS4 in terms of performance. the PC will also never run at 120W under load like the PS4 does. 120W PS4 vs 350W PC, if you play 5 hours a day, thats 100Gé¼ extra per year on your electricity bill in middle EU. and games will not run as well on your PC as dedicated PS4 games using the PS4 low level API which PS4 exclusive usually do. mantle and directx12 is childs play compared to the low level API that is offered by the PS4. all other games which do not use the low level API will be about equal though. the PLUS the PC has, if you install a free Linux distro, you can use it for work though and that is the only PLUS the mid range PC can score over the PS4. in terms of gaming, ease of maintenance and comfort in relation to cost ps4 wins out every time againts mid range PC. - A mid range CPU will cost around -ú100, - a decent motherboard will cost no more than -ú30, - a mid range GPU can cost anywhere between -ú30 to -ú100, - a basic case can cost around -ú10 - 8gb of some of the best RAM the public can buy is at most -ú50 - a 600W PSU cost me -ú30, a mid range build won't need anything near 600W - a 1TB HDD will cost around -ú50, much more storage than a console. - a DVD drive will cost under -ú10 - a simple mouse and keyboard will cost around -ú5 a good mid range PC will cost at most -ú400, so admittedly it's more expensive than a ps4, however when you can do so much more with a PC in terms of customization as well as just generally being able to do more, it's definitely worth an extra -ú50. Note: I didn't include a monitor or an OS here because PCs can be plugged into a TV instead of a monitor and linux is always an option if you want to be a pleb (windows 7 recommended though)
thx for repeating what I said.
again
PS4 can bought for 300-ú
your PC costs 100-ú more, has no blu ray player, bad cooling, low frequency ram with not optimal timings (8 GB of best ram does not cost 30-ú lol just shows how uninformed people are), ugly case with bad air flow and consumes 350W while gaming(2,5 times as much as a ps4). beside that, that is not even close to a ps4. and if you want to make it even remotely close to a ps4 you have to go for small form factor which will easily bump the costs by 100 or more.
as said, the only thing your mid range pc has over the PS4 is getting a free linux distro and use it office stuff. which you pay 100-ú more for.
note, I can do office stuff even on a smartphone with a bluetooth mouse and keyboard + connecting it via HDMI dock to a monitor if I want to, I do not need an extra PC for that. I can even use linux on my smartphone by running a VM. works like a charm. I do not need an extra ****** mid range fanblower pc for that stuff. |
Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
3
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The real draw of a PC over a PS4 is that you can spend a bit more and get several times the power, as well as connect any set of gaming peripherals you want: HOTAS, Track IR, Voice Attack, rudder pedals, button panels, multiple monitors, etc.
You are going to spend money on games so it makes sense to have a better experience for each rather than compromise on your platform.
Consoles are a great low cost machine for those unable or unwilling to build a PC. You could attempt to build a PC for PS4 prices, but then you ignore most of the reason to build which is to get a much better machine. |
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.14 12:06:00 -
[221] - Quote
Skihids wrote:Unfortunately CCP has to see a valid business case before they take action and I don't know if they can make one. Dust 514 is profitable for CCP. CPM1 Kevall can confirm that, it was something Hilmar was quite happy with at fanfest this year. Being profitable is itself a victory, but more importantly, it is profitable on a last gen, dying console. Imagine the profit Dust 514 could generate on current gen tech whose audience grows every month.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
393
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Posted - 2015.07.14 12:26:00 -
[222] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
We are all tired of talking about it.... We ant to be told its happening.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.07.14 12:51:00 -
[223] - Quote
Skihids wrote:The real draw of a PC over a PS4 is that you can spend a bit more and get several times the power, as well as connect any set of gaming peripherals you want: HOTAS, Track IR, Voice Attack, rudder pedals, button panels, multiple monitors, etc.
You are going to spend money on games so it makes sense to have a better experience for each rather than compromise on your platform.
Consoles are a great low cost machine for those unable or unwilling to build a PC. You could attempt to build a PC for PS4 prices, but then you ignore most of the reason to build which is to get a much better machine.
I use a warthog with pedals on ps4 with warthunder and have headtracking through camera. I use it on a nerdytec couchmaster infront of my huge TV and it works like charm. everything can be used on the ps4 as long as the developers allow it in their game.
point is, a mid range pc, while being to do more, does not compete with ps4. my smartphone can also do office stuff, image editing etc.. I can even run a VM with regular desktop OS on a smartphone and plug in a monitor plus connect mouse and keyboard. I can also run a VM on server in my local network and remote connect the phone to it using the servers superior hardware for video editing or even play games with almost no latency over local network. so if ps4 is obselete then a PC is too, cause my smartphone can already do everything a mid range PC is able to and even more if you take a local server into account.
beside that, a mid range PC that can compete with ps4 in terms of power still costs more and is a loud room heater under load. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.14 13:06:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Beside that, a mid range PC that can compete with PS4 in terms of power still costs more and is a loud room heater under load. I own a PC that boasts comparable or better specs than the PS4. It is absolutely not loud and doesn't make my room hot  So what the **** are you going on about?
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
17
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Posted - 2015.07.14 13:30:00 -
[225] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Beside that, a mid range PC that can compete with PS4 in terms of power still costs more and is a loud room heater under load. I own a PC that boasts comparable or better specs than the PS4. It is absolutely not loud and doesn't make my room hot So what the **** are you going on about?
Sssshhhh.
I'm trying to listen for my dead quiet machine next to my PS4.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
1
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:sony will not allow a game with a revolutionary unique sandbox mmofps bcuz no one will play their ****** game called planetside 2 .
Honestly both games are quite similar (i played dust here on ps3 and planetside still playing on pc).
And if i will choose between flat and mediocre and small lobby shooter or pretty good realtime shooter with huge maps, i will go for that second one.
I like dust, but after that years i basicaly stop believe CCP.
What i see in PL2 with all optimization and still more and more thingies i will propably stay with it.
I like lore behind dust, but after that years without proper progression (even when CCP stated how dust is moneymaker) i basicaly threw all trust away (and i spent big money in this game).
Right now im more in to PL2 and Survarium.
It was 40k plus, it was 30k plus not it is 20k plus and we will see in winter time.
I like dust but thanks to CCP it will be lost in time.
IF you will ask me what i will want for Ps3/4 i will tell you no dust, no legion ..I WANT MAG, THE ONE AND ONLY MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER GAME ON CONSOLES!!
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4lbert Wesker
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
316
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:19:00 -
[227] - Quote
True next gen is PC,not GayStation4/Shitbox.Get over it guys and face it....
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
976
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:26:00 -
[228] - Quote
Frankly, if it fixes the lag they can send it anywhere idc?!
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SELINA Silvermist
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:51:00 -
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:53:00 -
[230] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Beside that, a mid range PC that can compete with PS4 in terms of power still costs more and is a loud room heater under load. I own a PC that boasts comparable or better specs than the PS4. It is absolutely not loud and doesn't make my room hot So what the **** are you going on about?
you missed the point, as you usually do.
your PC costs how much? is most likely in a big tower. and still eats 350W under load.
I can get a PS4 for 350Gé¼ with 2 controllers and a game in a bundle on amazon.
beside that, my smartphone can do everything your PC can and even more with the help of virtualization and a server. your PC obviously is obsolete, bow down to smartphone master race. |
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:00:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:your PC costs how much? is most likely in a big tower. and still eats 350W under load. I can get a PS4 for 350Gé¼ with 2 controllers and a game in a bundle on amazon. it fits nicely in a small shelf and eats 120W maximum beside that, my smartphone can do everything your PC can and even more with the help of virtualization and a server. your PC obviously is obsolete, bow down to smartphone master race. You are too funny Jack. I enjoy reading your posts; it's like the Dust 514 equivalent to The Onion.
My PC was just shy of $500 (450Gé¼). I want to say $460, but it has been a while. I can upgrade it with a new GPU, more RAM, or more powerful CPU. If a new bit of cooling tech comes out I can upgrade it if I want to. If you want a new PS4 you will need to buy the newest model. Hell, a new PS4 with a SSD came out recently. Anyone who owns the old PS4 will need to upgrade: another $400 down the crapper.
As for power, I live in TN where power is 10.61 cents per kilowatthour. Some of the cheapest in the country thanks to the hydroelectric power we have here. I'm just fine with my PC's power consumption.
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
978
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:18:00 -
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When did the thread become a pc vs console thing... |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:19:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Jack McReady wrote:your PC costs how much? is most likely in a big tower. and still eats 350W under load. I can get a PS4 for 350Gé¼ with 2 controllers and a game in a bundle on amazon. it fits nicely in a small shelf and eats 120W maximum beside that, my smartphone can do everything your PC can and even more with the help of virtualization and a server. your PC obviously is obsolete, bow down to smartphone master race. You are too funny Jack. I enjoy reading your posts; it's like the Dust 514 equivalent to The Onion. My PC was just shy of $500 (450Gé¼). I want to say $460, but it has been a while. I can upgrade it with a new GPU, more RAM, or more powerful CPU. If a new bit of cooling tech comes out I can upgrade it if I want to. If you want a new PS4 you will need to buy the newest model. Hell, a new PS4 with a SSD came out recently. Anyone who owns the old PS4 will need to upgrade: another $400 down the crapper. As for power, I live in TN where power is 10.61 cents per kilowatthour. Some of the cheapest in the country thanks to the hydroelectric power we have here. I'm just fine with my PC's power consumption.
I am glad you are amused
anyway power consumption of a PC adds up here in Austria. playing several hours a day results in almost 100Gé¼ extra per year.
and btw you can exchange the harddrive of the PS4. it is as simple as plug and play, I have a 1 TB hybrid drive installed.
and the PS4 has something that PC does not have. a very optimized low level API but developers are generally to lazy to optimize their games and use it and only a few games run on it. the low level API is what makes the hardware shine. just look at the PS3 and uncharted, killzone or the last of us. those games look great running on hardware from 2005 due to the low level API. directx and mantle is child play in comparison. no PC with hardware from 2005 would be able to run such games that well. |
501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:26:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:When did the thread become a pc vs console thing...
It always will be because people want Dust to do well. The question is which will it do well best on? PS4, which is where a lot of old vets have gone and not many games could compete with Dust's uniqueness
Or PC: Highly upgradeable so it isn't heldback by console limitations, but has an extremely large competitive area of games?
At this point we shouldn't care. If Dust goes to PS4, it's better than PS3. If Dust goes to PC, it can ported later to PS4 or the PS5 or the Virtuaboy7 or whatever.
It just can't stay on the PS3. We can try and keep it here, but it's a bad idea, and not fair to this gem of a game.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:30:00 -
[235] - Quote
I say, port it to android for smartphones |
501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:34:00 -
[236] - Quote
Jack McReady wrote:I say, port it to android for smartphones
No lol. My Gameboy and Vita are lacking good gsmes atm. Besides why play gsmes on the BendPhone6?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:38:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:anyway power consumption of a PC adds up here in Austria. Playing several hours a day results in almost 100Gé¼ extra per year. That is rough. Power consumption of a console vs. PC would be more of a factor then. Point taken.
Jack McReady wrote:and btw you can exchange the harddrive of the PS4. it is as simple as plug and play, I have a 1 TB hybrid drive installed. Ah, but you bought the drive that came standard with the PS4 then had to purchase the 1TB hybrid drive separately, yes? How much did that add to the cost of the PS4?
I purchased the exact drive I wanted for my PC. I didn't have to upgrade it day 1 to a new drive.
Jack McReady wrote:and the PS4 has something that PC does not have. a very optimized low level API but developers are generally to lazy to optimize their games and use it and only a few games run on it. the low level API is what makes the hardware shine. just look at the PS3 and uncharted, killzone or the last of us. those games look great running on hardware from 2005 due to the low level API. directx and mantle is child play in comparison. no PC with hardware from 2005 would be able to run such games that well. This isn't my area of expertise. I am not a programmer and I don't pretend to know about API and such.
I know the games I have on my PC run well and look great. They maintain 60 FPS where consoles hit 30 - 35 FPS and do well to stay there.
I know it doesn't belch hot air like you describe and didn't cost my a fortune as some people would like to believe.
I can upgrade it's components when I want to with what brands I like (within compatibility restraints, of course).
Many of my PC games have huge modding communities to add in features and content when a game studio has stopped making DLC for them.
I can net massive amounts of PC games from digital distributors like Steam and GoG on the cheap.
I feel like I have gotten off track... All that to say I prefer PC gaming. I concede there are certain circumstances where consoles make sense (your power consumption issue is a new one to me and I won't forget it), but overall I feel PC gaming is a better, more consumer-friendly gaming platform.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:38:00 -
[238] - Quote
501st Headstrong wrote:Jack McReady wrote:I say, port it to android for smartphones No lol. My Gameboy and Vita are lacking good gsmes atm. Besides why play gsmes on the BendPhone6?
the better question is, why would you get a bendphone when you can get a shiny Z3 or Z3 compact |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:45:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:When did the thread become a pc vs console thing... Because that is the point of contention in the playerbase. We can all admit that Dust needs to get off the PS3 quick fast and in a hurry. We can all agree CCP needs to start talking to us. What we can't seem to agree upon is where Dust would perform better: PC or PS4.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:49:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Louis Domi wrote:When did the thread become a pc vs console thing... Because that is the point of contention in the playerbase. We can all admit that Dust needs to get off the PS3 quick fast and in a hurry. We can all agree CCP needs to start talking to us. What we can't seem to agree upon is where Dust would perform better: PC or PS4.
This. As well as are porting this current iteration pf Dust, then tweaking more on the new system? Or shoukd the game be more polished first..
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
6
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:49:00 -
[241] - Quote
501st Headstrong wrote:Jack McReady wrote:I say, port it to android for smartphones No lol. My Gameboy and Vita are lacking good gsmes atm. Besides why play gsmes on the BendPhone6?
If it went to ps4 then I could play it on my vita..and people who fail to realize dance dance will be far superior on PC due to kb/m..can't wait for that QQ lol
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:53:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:If it went to ps4 then I could play it on my vita..and people who fail to realize dance dance will be far superior on PC due to kb/m..can't wait for that QQ lol Mouse precision would offset A<->D strafing nonsense. Plus, after the most recent hit to strafe speeds, I don't see much wiggle-wiggle anymore.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:54:00 -
[243] - Quote
the move to console was simply a logical marketing decision. CCP does not want to divert the already aquired PC players, they wont get more money out of it. money the already existing PC customers spend into Dust is not spend on EVE. CCP wants to get new customers from a different market and as such I think this will not change.
I also think the legion announcment was just a farce. what they have presented is only a few ideas and them playing Dust 514 with higher res textures running on a high end rig since it can easily be ported cause its running on unreal engine.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:57:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Jack McReady wrote:I say, port it to android for smartphones No lol. My Gameboy and Vita are lacking good gsmes atm. Besides why play gsmes on the BendPhone6? If it went to ps4 then I could play it on my vita..and people who fail to realize dance dance will be far superior on PC due to kb/m..can't wait for that QQ lol
Lol and wasn't strafe just reduced also?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.14 16:10:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Remember dolphin diving from battlefield 2? if not, look it up on youtube. I remember it... but it involved flying around in a prone position... Dust doesn't have a prone position. We have crouch which drops your movement speed even more.
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Raven-747
WarRavens
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
104
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Posted - 2015.07.14 16:12:00 -
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Porting to ps4 will result in a huge loss of player base, so umm no.
You can complain all you want about lasers. Despite the nerfs it will rip you to shreds.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
6
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Posted - 2015.07.14 16:14:00 -
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Raven-747 wrote:Porting to ps4 will result in a huge loss of player base, so umm no.
Oh yeah like out of the 2k that play most don't already have a pe4...not like having a FTP game on ps4 would lead to new players or anything
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4lbert Wesker
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Raven-747 wrote:Porting to ps4 will result in a huge loss of player base, so umm no. Oh yeah like out of the 2k that play most don't already have a pe4...not like having a FTP game on ps4 would lead to new players or anything
I have PS3 but no ******* way i fill buy PS4.Consoles are **** expensive ****.You are afraid of CS/CoD/BF veterans?
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7 Djin
The Hundred Acre Hood
Rise Of Legion.
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Port it to next generation because there is not much they can change to improve this game without overhauling the entire engine. Honestly I'm a couple weeks away from just packing up my ps3 [ see everyone on ps4 ]
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.07.14 16:19:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Oh yeah like out of the 2k that play most don't already have a ps4...not like having a FTP game on ps4 would lead to new players or anything We don't know how many PS3 owners have a PS4, but let's go by the PS4 unit sales. In March PS4 unit sales hit 20.2 million units worldwide. I don't have any figures on the total units as of July. On Steam alone there are 125 active accounts... that was accurate as of February this year. Not certain how many are active as of July.
If EVERY SINGLE PS4 owner downloaded Dust 514 on their PS4 they wouldn't hit 17% of the Steam account total... think about that. Just by going PS4, CCP would be opting out of 104.8 million potential customers.
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Koch Rosenzweig
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
RUST415
329
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Posted - 2015.07.14 16:23:00 -
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PS2
Slap in your biotic ass.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
6
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Posted - 2015.07.14 16:24:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Raven-747 wrote:Porting to ps4 will result in a huge loss of player base, so umm no. Oh yeah like out of the 2k that play most don't already have a pe4...not like having a FTP game on ps4 would lead to new players or anything I have PS3 but no ******* way i fill buy PS4.Consoles are **** expensive ****.You are afraid of CS/CoD/BF veterans?
You realize I'm a vet of all those games right? I'll also say it one more time..I have a ps4/3/vita/Xbox one/gaming laptop..so no matter where it goes I'm good..I'm just telling how it is, consoles are better for competitive fps's
Sorry I don't feel like playing with modders, 100% accuracy mouses or easy stafe of a keyboard, I prefer competition
I'm sorry but PC is EZ mode
But if it does go to PC I won't complain, unlike you I htfu
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4lbert Wesker
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New Eden's Heros
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Why is it EZ mode?Because it's much easier to play with kb/m?
People don't realize that FPS games are not for controllers...
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Syeven Reed
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1
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/Signed
I don't play Dust anymore on PS3, but I would play it on PS4 all the freaking time. Now I'm out of the gambling simulator that is Destiny.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
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Syeven Reed wrote:/Signed
I don't play Dust anymore on PS3, but I would play it on PS4 all the freaking time. Now I'm out of the gambling simulator that is Destiny.
Oh my god REED!!!!!!!! 07 BROTHER IT'S BEEN TOO LONG :)
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.14 19:31:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Oh yeah like out of the 2k that play most don't already have a ps4...not like having a FTP game on ps4 would lead to new players or anything We don't know how many PS3 owners have a PS4, but let's go by the PS4 unit sales. In March PS4 unit sales hit 20.2 million units worldwide. I don't have any figures on the total units as of July. On Steam alone there are 125 active accounts... that was accurate as of February this year. Not certain how many are active as of July. If EVERY SINGLE PS4 owner downloaded Dust 514 on their PS4 they wouldn't hit 17% of the Steam account total... think about that. Just by going PS4, CCP would be opting out of 104.8 million potential customers.
I'll say it once I'll say it again where are the CPM?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.07.14 19:36:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:I'll say it once I'll say it again where are the CPM? Dude, they are so deep in the NDA they couldn't tell us anything.
HOWEVER
The fact that they are having CPM2 elections is a good sign...
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2015.07.14 20:21:00 -
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am I the only one that has a very strong feeling that dust IS being ported?
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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.07.14 20:37:00 -
[259] - Quote
My take is that CCP considers an EVE FPS to be a failed experiment.
They went for the new blood on consoles only to have their current player base revolt and to discover that they didn't have the skill set to build an FPS. They did a great job with the depth of fitting customization and the true sense of loss when you died, but they were plagued with balance issues, never found a way to give vehicles their own role (distinct from slaying infantry) which forced them to balance against a single suit, struggled against memory limitations and great lag.
As much as I would love a port, either PS4 or PC, I don't see any motivation on CCP's part to make it happen.
If they went for the PS4 they would have to deal with the EVE player base who hates the idea of their subscriptions going to build a console game. It would cost a good deal of time and money to port as they would need to rewrite for a new engine. Once done what would they have? A low count lobby shooter that still doesn't deliver on the promise of "One Universe" and the baggage of a low rating.
Moving to PC negates the goal of gaining a new player base. It would likely cost the same but have a smaller player base. It would have the potential to become more than a lobby shooter, but it would require another significant investment. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.14 20:46:00 -
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Skihids wrote:My take is that CCP considers an EVE FPS to be a failed experiment. Nevermind that there is a direct quote from CCP Rouge, executive producer for CCP Shanghai, that he believes we deserve a New Eden FPS.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.07.14 20:56:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:am I the only one that has a very strong feeling that dust IS being ported?
No, tinfoil hat says they're working on an x86 build, because logic ans reason. With like 1 or 2 devs only though.
But since you cannot directly apply logic and reason to ccp, it could be anyone's guess.
Currently in recluse bitter-vet mode.
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4lbert Wesker
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
323
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Posted - 2015.07.14 21:39:00 -
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Look at all these console peasants hoping that one day Dust will be ported to PS4
Embrace limitless options that PC offers or perish like filthy peasant...Do you know how many ideas Bethesda had for Skyrim? You know how many those ideas are fell into the oblivion?You know why?
BECAUSE GAYSTATION/SHITBOX IS GODDAMN LIMITED!And for that,we can blame only you,filthy peasants lol....
WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.14 21:45:00 -
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Put this question and request in the CPM chamber. As some of you stated, even if CCP Rattati told the CPM of a plan, they could not report back to us because of NDA. i thus rephrased the question to:
Asking CCP Rattati to tell CCP Rouge that Dust 514 could use a port, and to bring back word on Project Legion
Good news: My PS3 now turns on without freezing 40% of the time only.
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2015.07.14 21:46:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Patrick57 wrote:am I the only one that has a very strong feeling that dust IS being ported? No, tinfoil hat says they're working on an x86 build, because logic ans reason. With like 1 or 2 devs only though.
I think they outsourced it to someone else
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2830239
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JIMvc2
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.07.14 21:48:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Put this question and request in the CPM chamber. As some of you stated, even if CCP Rattati told the CPM of a plan, they could not report back to us because of NDA. i thus rephrased the question to:
Asking CCP Rattati to tell CCP Rouge that Dust 514 could use a port, and to bring back word on Project Legion
Good news: My PS3 now turns on without freezing 40% of the time only.
I'm actually excited when Dust releases for PC. I can just imagine how gorgeous it will look. PC would be expanded beyond Molden CRAP.
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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.07.15 00:50:00 -
[266] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Skihids wrote:My take is that CCP considers an EVE FPS to be a failed experiment. Nevermind that there is a direct quote from CCP Rouge, executive producer for CCP Shanghai, that he believes we deserve a New Eden FPS.
We may "deserve it" and CCP would love to have one, that's still a far cry from "we will build one".
I believe Project Legion is the only path to real integration and realization of the original dream. All consoles have limitations that put walks up around the implementation of those dreams. A PC port would also have the backing of the EVE player base which is no small thing.
Yes it would give up on the vast horde of console only players, but then DUST could become what it was supposed to be all along. I don't want to see it forever constrained to a small count lobby shooter. I want yo see it reach for the stars. |
501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 01:03:00 -
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It is now 317 days since Legion was last spoken about... gg
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Golden Day
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.15 01:10:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:Look at all these console peasants hoping that one day Dust will be ported to PS4 Embrace limitless options that PC offers or perish like filthy peasant...Do you know how many ideas Bethesda had for Skyrim? You know how many those ideas are fell into the oblivion?You know why? BECAUSE GAYSTATION/SHITBOX IS GODDAMN LIMITED!And for that,we can blame only you,filthy peasants lol....
And you PC gamers wonder why we aren't so friendly to you.
Im just a glorified blueberry
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 01:21:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:Look at all these console peasants hoping that one day Dust will be ported to PS4 Embrace limitless options that PC offers or perish like filthy peasant...Do you know how many ideas Bethesda had for Skyrim? You know how many those ideas are fell into the oblivion?You know why? BECAUSE GAYSTATION/SHITBOX IS GODDAMN LIMITED!And for that,we can blame only you,filthy peasants lol.... And you PC gamers wonder why we aren't so friendly to you.
Now I think Wesker is just an instigatory person...
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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.07.15 05:47:00 -
[270] - Quote
Neither the PC nor console are outright superior in all ways. Each has its strengths and weaknesses.
The point to consider is how the goals of the game fit each platform. |
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 08:37:00 -
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If Dust ever came to PS4, I would probably never get off of it. It almost NEEDS to come to PS4.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 10:05:00 -
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Well let's see. Right here I'm going to compile a list of features that we want Dust for nextgen to have, and then we comparably compare PS4 and PC. If the PC is more expensive because the ideas more ambitious, obviously PC. But if the PS4 really is a midlevel PC, let's start with that
Dust 514 Nextgen:
Eve-Dust link with persistent events
Pve- Drone infestations, possibilities to go accept Assassination merc contracts that affect Eve
Suits-Pirate suits, post level 5 content
More vehicles- Dropships redesigned for reaching high ground defensive areas, Mtacs as more maneuverable infatry but far more armor, Tanks for destroying Mtacs and possibly even objectives if enough damage is done
Skirmish 1.0 returned
Return of Corp Battles
PC outside of Molden Heath
Updated framerate
Could take adavantage of a Vita app to check Dust fittings, mail, chatbwith corp mates
What else?
PS4- Has 8 Gigs of DDR5 Ram compared to what, 256 on the PS3? That is roughly 30 times the Ram, maybe more I don't know components at all
X86- Is said to.be easier to program for
Uses up less energy than a comparable PC
Honest question: Could a PS4 handle Dust? Please no.dumb PC Master race guys, what do you honestly think?
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.07.15 10:40:00 -
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Raven-747 wrote:Porting to ps4 will result in a huge loss of player base, so umm no.
you mean instant rise? many players moved on to ps4 and btw f2p gaming is running well on ps4 and ps4 has the highest market share of all consoles currently. in EU its 70-90% depending on the country.
anyway, dust made profits, didnt it? (atleast according to CCP). if they can make dust profitable on a dead console they can for sure make it profitable on a console with high market share and living community.
501st Headstrong wrote:It is now 317 days since Legion was last spoken about... gg
legion never was a real thing. legion is dust with a different name. they only presented some ideas and the already existing dust game with higher res textures on a high end machine since it can be easily ported cause its running on unreal engine.
if legion is going to happen, it will be just dust 514 with a few extras and different progression system, nothing else. |
Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 10:55:00 -
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For those rallying for Legion and or a port to PC in general, here's my issue with that possibility.
When you enter the PC market, you are immediately competing with literally every game ever made. Your game needs to be God tier levels of fun to maintain any level of success over a long period of time. I'm talking LOL, WOW, Minecraft, Star Craft levels of fun.
That or be a hardcore niche filler with little competition like EVE.
Legion however is just an FPS. That means it's competing with games like COD, Battlefield, Far Cry, Titanfall, Borderlands, ARMA, and Planetside. Super AAA titles that are always providing the highest level of real competitive and or fun gameplay.
And the accessibility and usability of all these games means that if someone doesn't like a particular game, it's just as easy to delete it as it was to download it and move on to any other game.
And on top of that, it's also much easier to look up ratings and reviews of games.
On PS3, to know how Dust was rated, you can either just go off the star rating the game has and say, "meh, nearly 4 stars, might as well try it," or you are forced to get off your console and go look up big name reviews.
However on PC, the reviews are right there, the thoughts on the game from everyone from Gamespot to Snip3rB0y99 on how well the game was made is sometimes available right from the same page as the download. Which means that when players bash on your game, these opinions are given much more weight on the overall success of the game as they are directly visible to everyone thinking of getting into it right from the start.
Legion/Dust would -NOT- survive on PC even anywhere nearly as well as it fared on console. With the limited number of games available to consoles, there comes a certain safety. Being one of the 15 shooters available on PS4 makes you automatically more dominant than being one of the 100s if not 1,000s of shooters available on PC.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 21:19:00 -
[275] - Quote
Daddrobit wrote:For those rallying for Legion and or a port to PC in general, here's my issue with that possibility.
When you enter the PC market, you are immediately competing with literally every game ever made. Your game needs to be God tier levels of fun to maintain any level of success over a long period of time. I'm talking LOL, WOW, Minecraft, Star Craft levels of fun.
That or be a hardcore niche filler with little competition like EVE.
Legion however is just an FPS. That means it's competing with games like COD, Battlefield, Far Cry, Titanfall, Borderlands, ARMA, and Planetside. Super AAA titles that are always providing the highest level of real competitive and or fun gameplay.
And the accessibility and usability of all these games means that if someone doesn't like a particular game, it's just as easy to delete it as it was to download it and move on to any other game.
And on top of that, it's also much easier to look up ratings and reviews of games.
On PS3, to know how Dust was rated, you can either just go off the star rating the game has and say, "meh, nearly 4 stars, might as well try it," or you are forced to get off your console and go look up big name reviews.
However on PC, the reviews are right there, the thoughts on the game from everyone from Gamespot to Snip3rB0y99 on how well the game was made is sometimes available right from the same page as the download. Which means that when players bash on your game, these opinions are given much more weight on the overall success of the game as they are directly visible to everyone thinking of getting into it right from the start.
Legion/Dust would -NOT- survive on PC even anywhere nearly as well as it fared on console. With the limited number of games available to consoles, there comes a certain safety. Being one of the 15 shooters available on PS4 makes you automatically more dominant than being one of the 100s if not 1,000s of shooters available on PC.
Also I have an extreme bone to pick with every review for Dust...You can trash this game ok? I'll listen to you, especially if you complain of lag or lack of suits or whatever....but DO. NOT. TRASH. THIS. GAME. AFTER PLAYING 1 Day of it. Dust requires months, if not years for its true points to shine, and I never approved of any review where people played for two days then reviewed. I don't like it, Dust is not that game.
Also fully agree with the quoted comment.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.16 18:14:00 -
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Still want
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
No Context
932
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Posted - 2015.07.16 18:30:00 -
[277] - Quote
I'm contributing to this thread
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm LLC
850
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Posted - 2015.07.16 18:54:00 -
[278] - Quote
All you haters saying that Xbox and PS will never happen..
If there is ENOUGH support and Microsoft waives it's ridiculous client update fees it can happen.
There is nothing "technical" baring it from happening only the lack of the right carrot and the right stick.
It's our job as the gamers to have both companies take their heads out of their assess and make it happen.
Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
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Union118
GamersForChrist
554
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:01:00 -
[279] - Quote
Pot Smoker 4
I mean Please Smoke 4....20... No wait... Whats the word im looking for?
Oh play station 20 4
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Patrick57
10
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:13:00 -
[280] - Quote
501st Headstrong wrote:Well let's see. Right here I'm going to compile a list of features that we want Dust for nextgen to have, and then we comparably compare PS4 and PC. If the PC is more expensive because the ideas more ambitious, obviously PC. But if the PS4 really is a midlevel PC, let's start with that
Dust 514 Nextgen:
Eve-Dust link with persistent events
Pve- Drone infestations, possibilities to go accept Assassination merc contracts that affect Eve
Suits-Pirate suits, post level 5 content
More vehicles- Dropships redesigned for reaching high ground defensive areas, Mtacs as more maneuverable infatry but far more armor, Tanks for destroying Mtacs and possibly even objectives if enough damage is done
Skirmish 1.0 returned
Return of Corp Battles
PC outside of Molden Heath
Updated framerate
Could take adavantage of a Vita app to check Dust fittings, mail, chatbwith corp mates
What else?
PS4- Has 8 Gigs of DDR5 Ram compared to what, 256 on the PS3? That is roughly 30 times the Ram, maybe more I don't know components at all
X86- Is said to.be easier to program for
Uses up less energy than a comparable PC
Honest question: Could a PS4 handle Dust? Please no.dumb PC Master race guys, what do you honestly think?
I think if there was a port it would just be dust copied and pasted as-is but made optimal for the ps4, and major updates with content would come later.
but I have no idea if it is even being ported:/
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:15:00 -
[281] - Quote
Patrick57 wrote:but I have no idea if it is even being ported:/ More than likely yes. CPM2 elections are a good indication that a port or something is in the works. PS4 or PC or N64? No one knows because CCP's policy is apparently to keep your customers in the dark.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:19:00 -
[282] - Quote
Unrelated: maybe if we keep this thread on the front page long enough CCP will cave?
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
410
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:27:00 -
[283] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Unrelated: maybe if we keep this thread on the front page long enough CCP will cave?
i more wonder if Dust can even be ported with how many developers have come and gone from this project. They probably don't understand all the scripts being used to properly translate and port them over. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:34:00 -
[284] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:I more wonder if Dust can even be ported with how many developers have come and gone from this project. They probably don't understand all the scripts being used to properly translate and port them over. Well, through the CPM and CCP we have learned the current Dust 514 code is hinky. Maybe it hasn't be thoroughly commented enough. The only partly that knows exactly what is wrong is CCP.
Regardless, CCP has been working on unfucking Dust's code for several patches now. It is possible to fix... providing you have a team with sufficient resources.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
410
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:45:00 -
[285] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:I more wonder if Dust can even be ported with how many developers have come and gone from this project. They probably don't understand all the scripts being used to properly translate and port them over. Well, through the CPM and CCP we have learned the current Dust 514 code is hinky. Maybe it hasn't be thoroughly commented enough. The only partly that knows exactly what is wrong is CCP. Regardless, CCP has been working on unfucking Dust's code for several patches now. It is possible to fix... providing you have a team with sufficient resources.
This is what my line of thinking has been:
Dust has been getting bigger updates, more quickly. Updates mostly include frame rate fixes and modifiers. It seems likely CCP is working on fixing the code, and while doing so, preparing a sort of port.
And there's probably where legion comes in, since i doubt they'll directly port it, they'll want a shiney new coat and a chance to grab new PS4 players without overwhelming them with PS3 vets who will obviously want there stuff ported over, as well.
likely, that's going to lead CCP running both Dust and Legion on different consoles in different areas of New Eden - if you got ported over to Legion you'll likely keep BPO's and AUR but no SP or ISK.
Dust will continue, with the option of taking BPO's and possible skins over to Legion whenever you decide to upgrade. Likely eventually Dust and Legion pub games or certain modes will link and we can play together, since most of our gear will likely be the same. Dust will continue until the PS3 servers shut down *Sony's been hinting they won't keep it up for many more years*
Dust as a direct port would be a real mistake, imo. with legion then can not only start from scratch on UE4, they'd have a huge opportunity with persistency in a F2P game on the PS4 right now. |
501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.17 02:01:00 -
[286] - Quote
It's a good line Cola. Here's hopin
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1
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Posted - 2015.07.17 02:39:00 -
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I'd say a Ps4 port is a definite possibility.
Way back when,the EULA was changed to make it where only an account that downloaded (licensed,agreed to the EULA) Dust can play it.
Which all Ps4s do.
Seriously,try to play a game a friend bought with your account on the same Ps4. You can't.
And more recently an addendum was added to mention streaming and giveaways,to prevent players trying to subvert the RMT rules already in place.
The only question now is when.
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Marko Helm
United Pwnage Service
0
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Posted - 2015.07.17 03:52:00 -
[288] - Quote
I vote for the Pony Slaystation 4. |
501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.17 13:39:00 -
[289] - Quote
Question: What you want a Dust rebuilt from the ground up or a Port of this one with stabler framerates that has more content added to it?
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Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
151
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Posted - 2015.07.17 17:03:00 -
[290] - Quote
501st Headstrong wrote:Question: What you want a Dust rebuilt from the ground up or a Port of this one with stabler framerates that has more content added to it?
A clean-room reimplementation would likely take more effort than CCP is willing to invest, while a port wouldn't be feasible with all the issues various CPM members have claimed exists in the code.
(Mind you, some of these CPMs have been proven to know absolutely nothing about software, or DUST, so not sure we should take their word on this) |
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.17 17:15:00 -
[291] - Quote
Exacly why I raise the question
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Jathniel
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.07.17 19:24:00 -
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Why don't you guys just boycott Dust until CCP says something? You don't have the numbers to rock the server with a Burn Jita-style event, but you guys can DO *something*.
It'll accomplish one or two of these things:
1. If they get defiant and shut down Dust, then that means they had no intention of releasing Dust on PC/PS4, and they were just milking your money anyway. No harm done, and you can move on.
2. You'll force their hand to actually say something, and an actual dialog can probably be opened (with the CPM) to decide how to proceed. Just maybe you can get that NDA lifted. Our CPM has been gimped for the longest time by it; being unable to share information with us, until CCP says it's okay.
I mean... I thought the CPM inquired about a PC/PS4 port, and reported that CCP said, 'we're not planning on it right now.' or something similar.
Are you guys just going to be pushovers and take that? You're just going to tolerate that kind of treatment from a company? lol
You guys are the customers... YOU have the power.
You can crush Dust out of existence, or you can use your leverage to goad CCP into doing what you want. Why do so many insist on defending the current course of inaction by saying things like, "CCP owes us nothing", as if when Dust was made it was some kind of "favor"? lmao
Dust was made to make money, off of YOU. Period.
If you're going to throw any money at the game at all, you need to show CCP, that you're not going to tolerate them sitting on their ass. If they want to keep making money, a future for Dust needs to be disclosed.
Do or Die.
A company will always do the bare minimum unless demanded otherwise (why do you think Wal Mart has all those aisles, but only 2 or 3 are ever actually open with huge lines?).
EDIT: @ All you guys saying 'PS4-only'. f*ck you. You are a part of the problem. |
Golden Day
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.17 19:46:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Why don't you guys just boycott Dust until CCP says something? You don't have the numbers to rock the server with a Burn Jita-style event, but you guys can DO *something*.
It'll accomplish one or two of these things:
1. If they get defiant and shut down Dust, then that means they had no intention of releasing Dust on PC/PS4, and they were just milking your money anyway. No harm done, and you can move on.
2. You'll force their hand to actually say something, and an actual dialog can probably be opened (with the CPM) to decide how to proceed. Just maybe you can get that NDA lifted. Our CPM has been gimped for the longest time by it; being unable to share information with us, until CCP says it's okay.
I mean... I thought the CPM inquired about a PC/PS4 port, and reported that CCP said, 'we're not planning on it right now.' or something similar.
Are you guys just going to be pushovers and take that? You're just going to tolerate that kind of treatment from a company? lol
You guys are the customers... YOU have the power.
You can crush Dust out of existence, or you can use your leverage to goad CCP into doing what you want. Why do so many insist on defending the current course of inaction by saying things like, "CCP owes us nothing", as if when Dust was made it was some kind of "favor"? lmao
Dust was made to make money, off of YOU. Period.
If you're going to throw any money at the game at all, you need to show CCP, that you're not going to tolerate them sitting on their ass. If they want to keep making money, a future for Dust needs to be disclosed.
Do or Die.
A company will always do the bare minimum unless demanded otherwise (why do you think Wal Mart has all those aisles, but only 2 or 3 are ever actually open with huge lines?).
EDIT: @ All you guys saying 'PS4-only'. f*ck you. You are a part of the problem.
**** you prick I'd rather play it on ps4
You can eat my **** fat ass chumpa lumpa
Im just a glorified blueberry
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
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Jathniel wrote:Why don't you guys just boycott Dust until CCP says something? You don't have the numbers to rock the server with a Burn Jita-style event, but you guys can DO *something*.
It'll accomplish one or two of these things:
1. If they get defiant and shut down Dust, then that means they had no intention of releasing Dust on PC/PS4, and they were just milking your money anyway. No harm done, and you can move on.
2. You'll force their hand to actually say something, and an actual dialog can probably be opened (with the CPM) to decide how to proceed. Just maybe you can get that NDA lifted. Our CPM has been gimped for the longest time by it; being unable to share information with us, until CCP says it's okay.
I mean... I thought the CPM inquired about a PC/PS4 port, and reported that CCP said, 'we're not planning on it right now.' or something similar.
Are you guys just going to be pushovers and take that? You're just going to tolerate that kind of treatment from a company? lol
You guys are the customers... YOU have the power.
You can crush Dust out of existence, or you can use your leverage to goad CCP into doing what you want. Why do so many insist on defending the current course of inaction by saying things like, "CCP owes us nothing", as if when Dust was made it was some kind of "favor"? lmao
Dust was made to make money, off of YOU. Period.
If you're going to throw any money at the game at all, you need to show CCP, that you're not going to tolerate them sitting on their ass. If they want to keep making money, a future for Dust needs to be disclosed.
Do or Die.
A company will always do the bare minimum unless demanded otherwise (why do you think Wal Mart has all those aisles, but only 2 or 3 are ever actually open with huge lines?).
EDIT: @ All you guys saying 'PS4-only'. f*ck you. You are a part of the problem.
Well what you say makes sense...but I don't want to risk it. Dust, for it's cracks and faults that I read thread after thread...it still makes me want to play it. Batman is now boring after two weeks, I'm on the forums more than I play it now. CCP Rattati no doubt has asked for more resources to Dust, but CCP either quietly gave it to him, or they said no. That is not his fault. If we stop funding Dust, how will further resources for a port be found? Not from Eve, the one thing mostly keeping CCP afloat. Do or die won't make CCP say, "Holy sh!t, better make those players happy, it will make the stockbrokers say the company is losing money, cut the game. And then all us players will be left we a sea of mediorce shooters while the one gsme that we loved/hated becomes but a fond memory.
I don't want that. We are making progress under Rattati and his unnamed crew (Bless all of you if a god(s) exist) and I will continuing funding them. By not paying, you can just as easily make Dust more of a chore than make it as a bargaining chip.
The real question to your theory depends on how much does Dust mean to CCP? Without a substantial Eve link, not much.
I'm thankful for a chance to play with people I now call friends, and yes, the experience is still muddy, but it is actively being worked on. CCP could have killed Dust with Legion, just never hired Rattati to the project, and killed the servers.
We have a second chance, and I WILL hold out until these servers shut off because I have seen a Dust without hope, nd against all odds this game has clawed back fron that. Is it banging and thriving? Hell no...
But I'm not going to be the reason it croaks.
"There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner
*The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven *
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7 Djin
The Hundred Acre Hood
Rise Of Legion.
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Patrick57 wrote:am I the only one that has a very strong feeling that dust IS being ported? No, tinfoil hat says they're working on an x86 build, because logic ans reason. With like 1 or 2 devs only though. But since you cannot directly apply logic and reason to ccp, it could be anyone's guess.
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
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Jathniel wrote:Why don't you guys just boycott Dust until CCP says something? You don't have the numbers to rock the server with a Burn Jita-style event, but you guys can DO *something*.
It'll accomplish one or two of these things:
1. If they get defiant and shut down Dust, then that means they had no intention of releasing Dust on PC/PS4, and they were just milking your money anyway. No harm done, and you can move on.
2. You'll force their hand to actually say something, and an actual dialog can probably be opened (with the CPM) to decide how to proceed. Just maybe you can get that NDA lifted. Our CPM has been gimped for the longest time by it; being unable to share information with us, until CCP says it's okay.
I mean... I thought the CPM inquired about a PC/PS4 port, and reported that CCP said, 'we're not planning on it right now.' or something similar.
Are you guys just going to be pushovers and take that? You're just going to tolerate that kind of treatment from a company? lol
You guys are the customers... YOU have the power.
You can crush Dust out of existence, or you can use your leverage to goad CCP into doing what you want. Why do so many insist on defending the current course of inaction by saying things like, "CCP owes us nothing", as if when Dust was made it was some kind of "favor"? lmao
Dust was made to make money, off of YOU. Period.
If you're going to throw any money at the game at all, you need to show CCP, that you're not going to tolerate them sitting on their ass. If they want to keep making money, a future for Dust needs to be disclosed.
Do or Die.
A company will always do the bare minimum unless demanded otherwise (why do you think Wal Mart has all those aisles, but only 2 or 3 are ever actually open with huge lines?).
EDIT: @ All you guys saying 'PS4-only'. f*ck you. You are a part of the problem.
Yayy rebellion,how original.
As to the Ps4 only part...
If it were PC/Ps4...
The PC version wouldn't be updated as frequently as it could be.
Or the Ps4 version would be several updates behind.
All which would create an insane hassle,since there is supposed to be only 1 world/server it's supposed to run in.
If it were in it's own "realm" then it wouldn't be connected to Eve,and would just be another f2p fps that happens to have a back story.
So 100% Ps4 or 100% PC or 0% quality.
I'm for Ps4 myself,seeing as it started on Ps3.
PC players will still have Eve,let's not get greedy now shall we?
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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^This too haha
Bump
"There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner
*The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven *
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.21 14:59:00 -
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I am all for PS4 porting.
I think one thing CCP REALLY needs to take into consideration how much publicity they would get for the game by porting to next gen consoles. Currently, there are only a few people who have YouTube channels dedicated to gameplay, but imagine live streaming! They want more players? This is how they can achieve that + making the community happy.
Especially being a F2P FPS, the more people who tried it out eons ago and haven't looked back since can now look at it in a new light by watching gameplay.
Personally I see the marketing/publicity benefits of a next gen port.
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.21 15:03:00 -
[299] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:I am all for PS4 porting.
I think one thing CCP REALLY needs to take into consideration how much publicity they would get for the game by porting to next gen consoles. Currently, there are only a few people who have YouTube channels dedicated to gameplay, but imagine live streaming! They want more players? This is how they can achieve that + making the community happy. You aren't wrong, but this could also be done with a PC port.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
36
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Posted - 2015.07.21 15:17:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:I am all for PS4 porting.
I think one thing CCP REALLY needs to take into consideration how much publicity they would get for the game by porting to next gen consoles. Currently, there are only a few people who have YouTube channels dedicated to gameplay, but imagine live streaming! They want more players? This is how they can achieve that + making the community happy. You aren't wrong, but this could also be done with a PC port.
It absolutely could, however I personally wouldn't want to have to run two games at once on my PC (ie: EVE and Dust.) for risk of overclocking while I'm trying to do other things as well. Plus it would be hard to concentrate on playing both at the same time without dual monitors.
I mean they COULD release for PC and next gen consoles, but I imagine the community would want it to be cross platform which may be trying to expend CCP's personnel a little too much. Besides, how many of the console players have PCs or a PC capable of running Dust without overheating?
IMO it would be better to just keep it to console so as not to lose too much of the current player base. PLUS considering many people traded in their PS3's for PS4's anyway, it would make sense to stick with Sony.
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
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Doug Garcia
THE REBEL FEDERATION
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Posted - 2015.07.21 15:34:00 -
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I will be pretty pissed, if DUST ports to PC. I've spent hundreds of dollars on the game, and not to mention the hours too. I still want to play DUST some more. Rattati, if you have the game ported to PS4, I'll keep funding the game, lmao. But seriously... please port to PS4 and not PC. You PC gamers already have EVE, so, back off. |
7th Son 7
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
1
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Doug Garcia wrote:I will be pretty pissed, if DUST ports to PC. I've spent hundreds of dollars on the game, and not to mention the hours too. I still want to play DUST some more. Rattati, if you have the game ported to PS4, I'll keep funding the game, lmao. But seriously... please port to PS4 and not PC. You PC gamers already have EVE, so, back off.
^ This guy knows what's up
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.21 16:49:00 -
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Doug Garcia wrote:I'll keep funding the game If they port it to PC they will have 125,000,000 potential Steam customers to help fund Dust 514. Not saying they don't value your business, but consider the number of potential downloads Dust could have on something like Steam.
Doug Garcia wrote:You PC gamers already have EVE, so, back off. Not every PC player has Eve Online. Why does Eve Online existing prevent us from having a New Eden FPS?
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Victor889
WarRavens
RUST415
286
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:14:00 -
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It's got to be PC.
Imagine LvLCap and the like playing it, the competitive scene, the infinite ceiling of ever increasing PC components and the huge amount of exposure it would get worldwide.
Or you could put it on PS4 and get maybe a year or two down the line and have to make a freaking PS5 version - PC makes sense, consoles should be an afterthought. |
Doug Garcia
THE REBEL FEDERATION
2
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:26:00 -
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Because DUST, in a sense, (and in my opinion) is OUR share of CCP's game. DUST was intended for a console, and so it came out on a console. Don't go ruining it for those of us who have gaming consoles, by suggesting a port to PC. And CCP can still get their money's worth on PS4. Since DUST is ALREADY on PS3, why not move it to PS4. Another thing to keep in mind, is that when you're actually on DUST, in your chats, you see more Dust bunnies, then you do EVE pilots. So... there are more players on PSN playing the game already. And it would be easier for me to purchase a new PS console, than it would be to buy a PC, (which we all know, the current percentage of DUST players won't actually do). I kinda want to lean on my opinion, which is the fact that it would be easier for those of you who already have PC's, that y'all would want DUST to port to PC. That, to me, is SELFISH. And in the eyes of those of us who game on PS consoles, would agree with me on this. In other words, go find another game to play, or stick to EVE, because DUST is ours ;) |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:43:00 -
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Doug Garcia wrote:Because DUST, in a sense, (and in my opinion) is OUR share of CCP's game. DUST was intended for a console, and so it came out on a console. Don't go ruining it for those of us who have gaming consoles, by suggesting a port to PC. This is speculation. We could also say that Dust 514 (PS3) was an experiment. It was CCP testing the FPS market on consoles. Neither of our statements prove anything.
Doug Garcia wrote:And CCP can still get their money's worth on PS4. Since DUST is ALREADY on PS3, why not move it to PS4. Well, let's begin with the fact that the last sales numbers for PS4 put it at 20 million units sold. Assuming every single PS4 owner downloaded Dust 514 (which is unlikely) they still wouldn't hit 20% of the active accounts on Steam. As a business, those are significant numbers.
Doug Garcia wrote:Another thing to keep in mind, is that when you're actually on DUST, in your chats, you see more Dust bunnies, then you do EVE pilots. So... there are more players on PSN playing the game already. You know that Eve players only show up in Local chat if they talk, right? Also, sometimes Dust mercs are located in low security space which is not heavily populated right now. Try looking at high sec or null. The number of Eve pilots dwarves the number of Dust mercenaries.
Doug Garcia wrote:And it would be easier for me to purchase a new PS console, than it would be to buy a PC, (which we all know, the current percentage of DUST players won't actually do). I think you would be surprised at how many players already own a mid-range PC capable of running 2015 games. It's a fallacy that in 2015 you have to make the decision on either being a console gamer or PC gamer; mid-range PCs are now as affordable as a console and usually meet or surpass console specs.
Hell, even if Dust gets ported to PC I will still buy a PS4 soon (probably Christmas) for some PS4 exclusives.
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Can I request a physical copy of Dust?
Physical > Digital
CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division
My soul, your beats!
Enemy to many; equal to none.
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Doug Garcia
THE REBEL FEDERATION
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Posted - 2015.07.21 18:00:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Doug Garcia wrote:Because DUST, in a sense, (and in my opinion) is OUR share of CCP's game. DUST was intended for a console, and so it came out on a console. Don't go ruining it for those of us who have gaming consoles, by suggesting a port to PC. This is speculation. We could also say that Dust 514 (PS3) was an experiment. It was CCP testing the FPS market on consoles. Neither of our statements prove anything. Doug Garcia wrote:And CCP can still get their money's worth on PS4. Since DUST is ALREADY on PS3, why not move it to PS4. Well, let's begin with the fact that the last sales numbers for PS4 put it at 20 million units sold. Assuming every single PS4 owner downloaded Dust 514 (which is unlikely) they still wouldn't hit 20% of the active accounts on Steam. As a business, those are significant numbers. Doug Garcia wrote:Another thing to keep in mind, is that when you're actually on DUST, in your chats, you see more Dust bunnies, then you do EVE pilots. So... there are more players on PSN playing the game already. You know that Eve players only show up in Local chat if they talk, right? Also, sometimes Dust mercs are located in low security space which is not heavily populated right now. Try looking at high sec or null. The number of Eve pilots dwarves the number of Dust mercenaries. Doug Garcia wrote:And it would be easier for me to purchase a new PS console, than it would be to buy a PC, (which we all know, the current percentage of DUST players won't actually do). I think you would be surprised at how many players already own a mid-range PC capable of running 2015 games. It's a fallacy that in 2015 you have to make the decision on either being a console gamer or PC gamer; mid-range PCs are now as affordable as a console and usually meet or surpass console specs. Hell, even if Dust gets ported to PC I will still buy a PS4 soon (probably Christmas) for some PS4 exclusives.
You play a hard bargain. And you brought out great points. But in my position, you have to understand that, I'mean not the kind of guy who plays more than 3 games at any one time. I like taking my time and really go through with each individual game. Another reason why I'mean stubborn as far as keeping DUST to PS, is of course, the money that's been put in the game. And 2nd to that, the hours (like, I seriously went crazy for DUST... and somewhat anorexic). It just wouldn't be fair. For the love of all that is Amarr, PLEASE port to PS4. I don't want to spend my life savings on Battlefront or Destiny.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.21 18:07:00 -
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Doug Garcia wrote:You play a hard bargain. And you brought out great points. But in my position, you have to understand that, I'mean not the kind of guy who plays more than 3 games at any one time. I like taking my time and really go through with each individual game. Another reason why I'mean stubborn as far as keeping DUST to PS, is of course, the money that's been put in the game. And 2nd to that, the hours (like, I seriously went crazy for DUST... and somewhat anorexic). It just wouldn't be fair. For the love of all that is Amarr, PLEASE port to PS4. I don't want to spend my life savings on Battlefront or Destiny. I understand where you are coming from though. It's not that I am unsympathetic, please know that.
To clarify my official stance on the port issue: I believe that porting to PC is Dust's greatest chance at survive HOWEVER after we have a successful PC port I could absolutely get onboard a PS4 cross-over (similar to what Planetside 2 has done). PS4 is a clean, powerful machine (for a console ) and Dust could do well on it.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:21:00 -
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Ripley, if you became CPM, I take it you would inquire about a port?
"There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner
*The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven *
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Golden Day
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
2
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[311] - Quote
All aboard Dust 514 PC train choo chooo choo =ƒÜä
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:24:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Ripley, if you became CPM, I take it you would inquire about a port? Yes. I consider it a requirement to keep Dust alive. After a successful PC port I will continue to pursue a PS4 port unless CCP flat out tells me to shut the hell up.
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
240
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Posted - 2015.07.25 00:22:00 -
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Still nothing? |
DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Ripple, I honestly think that Steam and, therefor, PC would be the worst choice for many many reasons.
There are many things I really don't understand of Steam:
- Why does Steam have 8-9 millions players "online" while only 2-3 millions are playing games?
- Steam's grand total of players is made mostly by DOTA2 and Counter Strike players, At peak hours they take up more than half the total number of players alone. Also, both of them are regularly played daily and updated. The other most played games are either masterpieces like GTAV, Borderlands, The Witcher or Strategy / Manageria / Survival games.
- A "much better" FPS like Planetside 2 on Steam only have 2800 players average, which is actually the same number as our old PS3's Dust 514, with all its flaws, all its bugs, all its overall "oldness" and its decaying community.
And I'm not considering the fact that CCP should expand their pool of players and shouldn't do self-competition to Eve Online.
Of course, PC offers expandibility and the development is stable for years, possibly reaching much better visuals, but that's it. Games like No Man's Sky, Elite etc on Console are doing (or will do) just fine, simply because nowaday's consoles can handle the immensity of their Universe while old-gen couldn't (technically old-gen could, but with too many compromises). Hell, even Star Citizen could have seen a development on PS4 if Sony ever accepted to give him free reign concerning pretty much anything.
Then, the same old PC-Console arguments I'm not going to repeat (hackers, ease to use bla bla bla). I'm conscious that developing on PC would give a bit more freedom on many things and that the game might have a bettertechnical aspect, but this is just my opinion, if Dust ports to PS4 I will play it gladly, if not I'm probably not going to deal with it.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
12
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Posted - 2015.08.26 18:39:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:- Why does Steam have 8-9 millions players "online" while only 2-3 millions are playing games? For the same reason you can be logged into PSN, but not playing a game.
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:- Steam's grand total of players is made mostly by DOTA2 and Counter Strike players, At peak hours they take up more than half the total number of players alone. Also, both of them are regularly played daily and updated. The other most played games are either masterpieces like GTAV, Borderlands, The Witcher or Strategy / Manageria / Survival games. I'm not sure what your point here is. Yes, many Steam players play DOTA, CS:GO, Civ V, etc. Warframe is also very popular, though not a PC exclusive.
This may come as a huge shock to many people, but it is possible to play more than one game For example, I play Warframe, Dust 514, Pillars of Eternity, Pokemon Y, Civilization: Beyond Earth, and PSone-era games on PS Vita. I enjoy all of them at my own pace when it suits me.
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:- A "much better" FPS like Planetside 2 on Steam only have 2800 players average, which is actually the same number as our old PS3's Dust 514, with all its flaws, all its bugs, all its overall "oldness" and its decaying community.
And I'm not considering the fact that CCP should expand their pool of players and shouldn't do self-competition to Eve Online. Planetside 2 is a different style FPS. More twitch; faster TTK, more emphasis on reaction times and muscle memory. It has captured its audience in F2P future-tech shooter market. Dust can capture a different set of players... or some of the PS2 guys, who knows.
As for the "self-competition to Eve Online" remark: have you considered the possibility that CCP wants this? Oh no! You quit Dust 514 to play Eve Online! Oh no! You quit Eve Online to play Dust 514. Either way, they make money.
Also, see my previous comment about the ability to play more than one game...
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Of course, PC offers expandibility and the development is stable for years, possibly reaching much better visuals, but that's it. Games like No Man's Sky, Elite etc on Console are doing (or will do) just fine, simply because nowaday consoles can handle the immensity of their Universe while old-gen couldn't (technically old-gen could, but with too many compromises). Hell, even Star Citizen could have seen a development on PS4 if Sony ever accepted to give Chris Roberts free reign concerning pretty much anything. LOL 30FPS is "doing just fine". C'mon now...
Speaking of Chris Roberts, GÇ£Star Citizen IS a PC game,GÇ¥ Roberts writes . GÇ£It will NEVER be dumbed down for a lesser platform. We will NOT limit the input options or supported peripherals to the lowest common denominator. We will NOT pass on features and technology just because they will only run on some hardware configurations.GÇ¥
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:That said, the need to move on another platform, is way more important than "which platform". We are in agreement here. PS4 isn't a bad console. I would play Dust on it (once I get one). I would play Dust on PC too. The point is that we get Dust off the PS3.
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
356
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Posted - 2015.08.26 20:23:00 -
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They need to bring steam to Xbox and playstation tbh.. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
12
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Posted - 2015.08.26 20:27:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:They need to bring steam to Xbox and playstation tbh.. And they need to bring PSN and XB Live to PC! No srsly
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
356
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Posted - 2015.08.26 20:28:00 -
[319] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:They need to bring steam to Xbox and playstation tbh.. And they need to bring PSN and XB Live to PC! No srsly
Xbl is on pc |
Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
5
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And so the serpent eats itself at last.
CPM mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
12
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Posted - 2015.08.26 20:30:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Xbl is on pc Touche. Nintendo eShop then.
The point being made that these markets are for their respective systems. Steam caters to PC, like GoG.
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endezeichen grimm
Brothers Grimm 666
20
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Posted - 2015.08.26 20:34:00 -
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PS4 or nothing.
If they move it to PC, I am quitting.
Games belong on a console, dedicated for games. PS4 is the best for that.
Simplify the graphics and make the game run smooth!
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
1
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Considering what CCP Rouge said at Fanfest 2014, I think it's unlikely they won't release on PC. |
endezeichen grimm
Brothers Grimm 666
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Varoth Drac wrote:Considering what CCP Rouge said at Fanfest 2014, I think it's unlikely they won't release on PC.
So do you mean that they will move it to PC?
That would be the worst thing for this game. Playstation or nothing.
Simplify the graphics and make the game run smooth!
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Posted - 2015.08.26 20:53:00 -
[325] - Quote
If it goes ps4 then I'd have a reason to go back to ps4 otherwise I'll stick with my xbone and PC...honestly Idc where it goes aslong as its next gen or PC..I love dust but it has no future on ps3
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Archer Killian
A13 SHIELD
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Posted - 2015.08.27 21:56:00 -
[326] - Quote
I always looked at the future of Dust like this...
Dust is part of the EvE universe.
EvE is a long running popular game.
So Infantry Eve, (Dust) will continue in some form anyway and if that means porting to pc or next gen or upgrading to Legion then I guess that will happen when it happens.
So I just never worry about it.
and we're all going to get ps4s eventually anyway...
"The best enemy is the one that shoots at you all game... and misses!"
Dedicated Commando:- All races
CEO of E-VAC
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RabbitGang
13 COILS
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:08:00 -
[327] - Quote
I'm humpin'.... I'm bumpin'....
WOT?
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Grease Spillett
OSG Planetary Operations
949
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:11:00 -
[328] - Quote
I honestly haven't bought a ps4 because i'm scared that I'll lose out 400 bucks on getting a ps4 that I'll never play if dust goes to PC.
Somebody call for an exterminator?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0bJCvSFeA
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ZED Regent
RabbitGang
13 COILS
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:13:00 -
[329] - Quote
Grease Spillett wrote:I honestly haven't bought a ps4 because i'm scared that I'll lose out 400 bucks on getting a ps4 that I'll never play if dust goes to PC.
How about StarWars Battlefront?
WOT?
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
6
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:17:00 -
[330] - Quote
Preferably ps4 for dust but pc would also be good.
I am GJRs Renfield.
You heard it here first, I told you so.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
429
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:19:00 -
[331] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Squagga wrote:Another one of these? Yes, PS4 obviously Well it's obvious they won't talk to us about it so, I'll keep trying
The silence does tend to rile us up a bit. |
Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:23:00 -
[332] - Quote
http://nosygamer.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/is-legion-dead.html
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JEDI LORD HOTH
12
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:38:00 -
[333] - Quote
Hell No!
I don't want this bush league BUGS514 on the PS4.
The PS4 should only be for triple AAA games.
Talking about a port when you'll still have all the BUGS, ridiculous.
daddy mack a make ya JUMP...JUMP...
Myo's make ya wanna JUMP...JUMP...
Cris X Cross with an MD JUMP...JUMP...
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm LLC
880
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:41:00 -
[334] - Quote
XBone!! All the way.. Microsoft has grown up enough they will let it happen! Stop selling yourselves short.
Caldari Suit Videos Love Caldari - Since 6/29/2012
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Jammeh McJam
XxAMBUSH FTWxX
369
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:59:00 -
[335] - Quote
ZED Regent wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:I honestly haven't bought a ps4 because i'm scared that I'll lose out 400 bucks on getting a ps4 that I'll never play if dust goes to PC. How about StarWars Battlefront?
You mean Battlefield with lasers?
Steam name - Jammeh McJam
PC master race
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Posted - 2015.09.30 22:41:00 -
[336] - Quote
The thread lives! But its creator is banned
#ps4/xbone, cross platform |
ZED Regent
RabbitGang
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462
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Posted - 2015.10.01 03:47:00 -
[337] - Quote
Jammeh McJam wrote:ZED Regent wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:I honestly haven't bought a ps4 because i'm scared that I'll lose out 400 bucks on getting a ps4 that I'll never play if dust goes to PC. How about StarWars Battlefront? You mean Battlefield with lasers?
I like lasers...
I like Star Wars...
WOT?
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ZED Regent
RabbitGang
13 COILS
462
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Posted - 2015.10.01 03:48:00 -
[338] - Quote
Sir Petersen wrote:http://nosygamer.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/is-legion-dead.html
Now it's WoW Legion...
WOT?
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Posted - 2015.10.03 16:07:00 -
[339] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
So this was made 4 months ago and even with all the support a port has CCP still doesn't comment..proof they have no intentions of a port anytime soon..ps5 and xbox69 will be out by the time a port comes |
4lbert Wesker
Standby Retaliation
520
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Posted - 2015.10.03 16:16:00 -
[340] - Quote
endezeichen grimm wrote:PS4 or nothing.
If they move it to PC, I am quitting.
Games belong on a console, dedicated for games. PS4 is the best for that.
we have a hardcore console peasant over here...
WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
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Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
292
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Posted - 2015.10.03 16:26:00 -
[341] - Quote
NextDark Knight wrote:Microsoft has grown up enough they will let it happen! Stop selling yourselves short. Yeah! Windows all the way!
Ripley Riley is on safari until Oct 9th. I will represent him until he returns.
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Posted - 2015.10.03 16:33:00 -
[342] - Quote
Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:Microsoft has grown up enough they will let it happen! Stop selling yourselves short. Yeah! Windows all the way!
Get that Xbox/PC crossplay
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF
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Posted - 2015.10.10 21:10:00 -
[343] - Quote
Bump
Looking at you Rat man
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF
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ZED Regent
RabbitGang
13 COILS
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Posted - 2015.10.11 08:35:00 -
[344] - Quote
Bump...
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port Dust 514
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.10.11 12:59:00 -
[345] - Quote
its almost too late for a port now. there are already some established f2p titles on ps4 (plus others coming) and if CCP waits too long they will miss the opportunity. |
501st Synergy
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2015.10.11 13:03:00 -
[346] - Quote
Id still play Dust over any F2P titles. |
DEATH THE KlD
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Posted - 2015.10.11 15:11:00 -
[347] - Quote
501st Synergy wrote:Id still play Dust over any F2P titles.
A lot of people would
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.10.11 15:31:00 -
[348] - Quote
4lbert Wesker wrote:PS4 next gen?
LOL! Come on guys,even now that PS4 hardware is old...
Console peasants...
It's still on par with or better than the average gaming PC...
Keyword here is average.
All the people crying about Fallout 4s minimum specs is my evidence of such. The minimum specs are about where PS4 and Xbone are at, and tons of people are bitching about it. Really puts the whole"consoles are holding back multiplatform games" bull crap into perspective.
Home at Last <3
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DEATH THE KlD
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Posted - 2015.10.11 20:19:00 -
[349] - Quote
Fizzer XCIV wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:PS4 next gen?
LOL! Come on guys,even now that PS4 hardware is old...
Console peasants... It's still on par with or better than the average gaming PC... Keyword here is average. All the people crying about Fallout 4s minimum specs is my evidence of such. The minimum specs are about where PS4 and Xbone are at, and tons of people are bitching about it. Really puts the whole"consoles are holding back multiplatform games" bull crap into perspective.
Tbh I'm not buying a desktop...a steam machine perhaps but idk how they are so I doubt it..already have Xbox one and ps4..$1300 gaming laptop but I doubt I'd play dust on it..
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.10.11 20:22:00 -
[350] - Quote
If dust will be ported to pc, im out.
Basicaly i will not buy pc for Dust 2.0 aka Legion.
Port to ps4 i really dont know, they cannot port it they need to re-do whole game since Ps3 and ps4 are different consoles.
Ergo
Right now i will be here and lator i dont know
"Caller of the Monolith"
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
2
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Posted - 2015.10.12 13:48:00 -
[351] - Quote
Bump. Keep these things on the front page guys!!!!
#ProjectPortDust514
#PortDust514
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Starlight Burner
Titans of Phoenix
Damage LLC
544
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Posted - 2015.10.12 14:42:00 -
[352] - Quote
abdullah muzaffar wrote:PC, PSN is crap.
CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation
Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today!
Thank you for DUST
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Posted - 2015.10.12 20:17:00 -
[353] - Quote
Bump
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.10.13 03:25:00 -
[354] - Quote
Hump
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
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Russel Mendoza
Klandatu
250
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Posted - 2015.10.13 04:17:00 -
[355] - Quote
Bump. Definitely agree. Keep this in the front page!!!!!
I'm the biggest Dustard in the universe!!!
Summoning technique "Gorgon no jutsu"
Vehicle request accepted.
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501st Synergy
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2015.10.13 04:18:00 -
[356] - Quote
Slump:) |
SOGZ PANDA
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
141
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Posted - 2015.10.13 06:53:00 -
[357] - Quote
501st Synergy wrote:Slump:)
Stump
dust is life...
... uncertain, and usually pretty dissapointing.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
4
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Posted - 2015.10.13 08:25:00 -
[358] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
Why haven't I bumped this before....agree with all except the Xbox port
"Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit"
Check RND out here
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.10.13 08:52:00 -
[359] - Quote
Evergreen topic is evergreen. I'm personally having a break from Dust, but if it would port on next gen I know I would be playing and throwing money at my screen.
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
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501st Synergy
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2015.10.15 16:42:00 -
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^^^^Come on CCP. Give me a greater reason to turn on my PS4 |
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Thor Odinson42
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2015.10.15 16:49:00 -
[361] - Quote
Jack McReady wrote:its almost too late for a port now. there are already some established f2p titles on ps4 (plus others coming) and if CCP waits too long they will miss the opportunity.
I think you discount the number of players who gave up on Dust due to lack of a future.
Announcing a port would boost our numbers on the PS3 instantly and it would increase the amount of money players would be willing to spend.
CCP hasn't scratched the surface of what this game could be. On better hardware and increased resources I'd put this game up against any shooter out there. With all it's blemishes it's still the best shooter I've ever played. We are reaching a point where the game critically needs more players and some excitement if they want to continue to receive revenue from the game.
If they make the announcement now, there would be money coming in to help cover the costs. We've showed incredible resiliency as a playerbase, but they are asking a lot from us given the circumstances.
"Lonewolfing is hard because everyone is lonewolfing."
-Captain Obvious
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Thor Odinson42
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2015.10.15 16:56:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Evergreen topic is evergreen. I'm personally having a break from Dust, but if it would port on next gen I know I would be playing and throwing money at my screen.
You and a lot of people.
It's really crazy that a business as big as CCP isn't able to see the benefit of making an announcement. If they aren't able to make the port happen the game dies anyway. There's literally no downside to making the announcement.
The excuse the CCP fanbois give is that past promises have burned them. But it's one thing to promise a feature and it doesn't happen. But that only matters in a game that people believe has a future. A port is the future, this isn't even remotely debatable as the PS3 has an expiration date that is approaching.
I logical person cannot honestly come up with a valid reason for staying silent IF the intent is to port the game. If there is no intent to port the game there is every reason to stay silent. I'd argue that knowing this and continuing to act as though the game has a future is a bigger slap in the face by CCP than making an announcement but not delivering.
"Lonewolfing is hard because everyone is lonewolfing."
-Captain Obvious
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DEATH THE KlD
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Posted - 2015.10.21 15:58:00 -
[363] - Quote
Didn't realize you guys were still bumping .__. My stuffs bugged
Bump
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
12
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:02:00 -
[364] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:There's literally no downside to making the announcement. Inb4 Iron Wolf Sabre comes in here with that tired, useless "They don't want to over promise then under deliver!" line.
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:03:00 -
[365] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:its almost too late for a port now. there are already some established f2p titles on ps4 (plus others coming) and if CCP waits too long they will miss the opportunity. I think you discount the number of players who gave up on Dust due to lack of a future. Announcing a port would boost our numbers on the PS3 instantly and it would increase the amount of money players would be willing to spend. CCP hasn't scratched the surface of what this game could be. On better hardware and increased resources I'd put this game up against any shooter out there. With all it's blemishes it's still the best shooter I've ever played. We are reaching a point where the game critically needs more players and some excitement if they want to continue to receive revenue from the game. If they make the announcement now, there would be money coming in to help cover the costs. We've showed incredible resiliency as a playerbase, but they are asking a lot from us given the circumstances.
Another question is:
"Do CCP want to make another version of Dust from scratch since new engines/system with better server infrastructure?"
If so:
"Will be that game F2P, or proper AAA title for one cost, or monthly based one?"
"Completion by direct action"
Forge syndicalist of Corrosive Synergy
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DEATH THE KlD
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:47:00 -
[366] - Quote
postapo wastelander wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:its almost too late for a port now. there are already some established f2p titles on ps4 (plus others coming) and if CCP waits too long they will miss the opportunity. I think you discount the number of players who gave up on Dust due to lack of a future. Announcing a port would boost our numbers on the PS3 instantly and it would increase the amount of money players would be willing to spend. CCP hasn't scratched the surface of what this game could be. On better hardware and increased resources I'd put this game up against any shooter out there. With all it's blemishes it's still the best shooter I've ever played. We are reaching a point where the game critically needs more players and some excitement if they want to continue to receive revenue from the game. If they make the announcement now, there would be money coming in to help cover the costs. We've showed incredible resiliency as a playerbase, but they are asking a lot from us given the circumstances. Another question is: "Do CCP want to make another version of Dust from scratch since new engines/system with better server infrastructure?" If so: "Will be that game F2P, or proper AAA title for one cost, or monthly based one?"
honestly I wouldn't mind paying for dust if it's on next gen/PC..dust delivers everything I love it just has a lot of bugs and I can put up with them but the PS3? No thanks
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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Unholy HateGore
highland marines
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:49:00 -
[367] - Quote
PS4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
John Demonsbane
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.21 17:04:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Evergreen topic is evergreen. I'm personally having a break from Dust, but if it would port on next gen I know I would be playing and throwing money at my screen. You and a lot of people. It's really crazy that a business as big as CCP isn't able to see the benefit of making an announcement. If they aren't able to make the port happen the game dies anyway. There's literally no downside to making the announcement. The excuse the CCP fanbois give is that past promises have burned them. But it's one thing to promise a feature and it doesn't happen. But that only matters in a game that people believe has a future. A port is the future, this isn't even remotely debatable as the PS3 has an expiration date that is approaching. I logical person cannot honestly come up with a valid reason for staying silent IF the intent is to port the game. If there is no intent to port the game there is every reason to stay silent. I'd argue that knowing this and continuing to act as though the game has a future is a bigger slap in the face by CCP than making an announcement but not delivering.
Don't kid yourselves, people. Odinson's logic is correct in that there is absolutely no reason to keep a port secret. The money they could expect to haul in following such an announcement is such that even CCP is not foolish enough to keep quiet.
Therefore the only logical conclusion is that there is no port. Get off the sinking ship while there is still time.
(The godfather of tactical logisticsGäó)
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ZED Regent
RabbitGang
13 COILS
538
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Posted - 2015.10.23 04:54:00 -
[369] - Quote
Can I bump it?
-Yes you can!-
(A Tribe called Quest)
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port Dust 514...
Hangovers for everybody!
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ZED Regent
RabbitGang
13 COILS
556
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Posted - 2015.10.29 11:26:00 -
[370] - Quote
Are they still aware?
Hopefully they hire somebody that will speak to us about Dust's future...
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port Dust 514...
Hangovers for everybody!
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.10.29 12:33:00 -
[371] - Quote
Jack McReady wrote:its almost too late for a port now. there are already some established f2p titles on ps4 (plus others coming) and if CCP waits too long they will miss the opportunity.
OK, I'm just about convinced that CCP isn't really interested in this topic anymore because they're not investing in a port. Not a single reasonable, informative response to any of the threads about this, can only mean they aren't going to be porting it, or they'd say something.
So that means this game is dead and if so, I'd be better off (so would everyone else) to spend my time playing one of these new f2p games on the PS4. Are any of them anything like Dust? Or are they simplistic, poor imitations? |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
12
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Posted - 2015.10.29 13:31:00 -
[372] - Quote
Keep the faith, fellow Porticians.
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
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Posted - 2015.10.29 13:48:00 -
[373] - Quote
Alena Asakura wrote:Jack McReady wrote:its almost too late for a port now. there are already some established f2p titles on ps4 (plus others coming) and if CCP waits too long they will miss the opportunity. OK, I'm just about convinced that CCP isn't really interested in this topic anymore because they're not investing in a port. Not a single reasonable, informative response to any of the threads about this, can only mean they aren't going to be porting it, or they'd say something. So that means this game is dead and if so, I'd be better off (so would everyone else) to spend my time playing one of these new f2p games on the PS4. Are any of them anything like Dust? Or are they simplistic, poor imitations?
I'm playing halo 5 now..I love dust but a game with no future is dead
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.10.29 16:26:00 -
[374] - Quote
ZED Regent wrote:
Are they still aware?
Hopefully they hire somebody that will speak to us about Dust's future...
I really don't see whats wrong with coming out and telling us what's up right now, unless it's really really disappointing news. But even if it is really bad news they're just delaying the inevitable.
Time since Legion News
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ZED Regent
RabbitGang
13 COILS
578
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Posted - 2015.11.05 15:59:00 -
[375] - Quote
And now.... for something completely different....
BUMP!
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port Dust 514...
Hangovers for everybody!
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.11.05 19:27:00 -
[376] - Quote
Hmmm guess I should bump
Time since Legion News
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Posted - 2015.11.07 18:16:00 -
[377] - Quote
#bump all port threads
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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Imperfect - Bastards
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Posted - 2015.11.08 15:36:00 -
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If they port to PC I wonder how powerful of a PC you'd need?
I've wanted it on ps4 more than anything but lately I've been leanin towards PC..sure the ps4 is good but the options for PC are limitless...either one would be great though
#revive legion/port dust
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
995
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Posted - 2015.11.08 15:53:00 -
[379] - Quote
It's ps4 or death.
We had a pc port once.... It didn't go over well.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.08 16:14:00 -
[380] - Quote
Devadander wrote:It's ps4 or death.
We had a pc port once.... It didn't go over well.
Pc>PS4
"we had a PC port once" wut??
Pretty sure eve legion is on a shelf somewhere in a hard drive waiting to be shown at ff15 with more burning trees
Im just a glorified blueberry
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
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Posted - 2015.11.08 16:24:00 -
[381] - Quote
Golden Day wrote:Devadander wrote:It's ps4 or death.
We had a pc port once.... It didn't go over well. Pc>PS4 "we had a PC port once" wut?? Pretty sure eve legion is on a shelf somewhere in a hard drive waiting to be shown at ff15 with more burning trees
Go to Windows 10..maybe get some cross platform play going on..then port to ps4 then we have players from PC/Xbox/ps4
No idea what Microsoft plans on doing with Xbox Windows 10 but it could be beneficial to dust if you can get cross platform play due to Windows 10
I wouldn't mind it being on ps4 but I'd rather they go Windows first since that's what CCP is good at..then they can tweak it and put it on ps4 as well..
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
92
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Evergreen topic is evergreen. I'm personally having a break from Dust, but if it would port on next gen I know I would be playing and throwing money at my screen. You and a lot of people. It's really crazy that a business as big as CCP isn't able to see the benefit of making an announcement. If they aren't able to make the port happen the game dies anyway. There's literally no downside to making the announcement. The excuse the CCP fanbois give is that past promises have burned them. But it's one thing to promise a feature and it doesn't happen. But that only matters in a game that people believe has a future. A port is the future, this isn't even remotely debatable as the PS3 has an expiration date that is approaching. I logical person cannot honestly come up with a valid reason for staying silent IF the intent is to port the game. If there is no intent to port the game there is every reason to stay silent. I'd argue that knowing this and continuing to act as though the game has a future is a bigger slap in the face by CCP than making an announcement but not delivering.
This is exactly what I've been saying myself. The answer to this point from CCP is always that they will not discuss it as a matter of policy, but that to me is ridiculous, when it clearly is jeopardising the game. |
DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
730
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Posted - 2015.11.08 17:10:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Evergreen topic is evergreen. I'm personally having a break from Dust, but if it would port on next gen I know I would be playing and throwing money at my screen. You and a lot of people. It's really crazy that a business as big as CCP isn't able to see the benefit of making an announcement. If they aren't able to make the port happen the game dies anyway. There's literally no downside to making the announcement. The excuse the CCP fanbois give is that past promises have burned them. But it's one thing to promise a feature and it doesn't happen. But that only matters in a game that people believe has a future. A port is the future, this isn't even remotely debatable as the PS3 has an expiration date that is approaching. I logical person cannot honestly come up with a valid reason for staying silent IF the intent is to port the game. If there is no intent to port the game there is every reason to stay silent. I'd argue that knowing this and continuing to act as though the game has a future is a bigger slap in the face by CCP than making an announcement but not delivering. This is exactly what I've been saying myself. The answer to this point from CCP is always that they will not discuss it as a matter of policy, but that to me is ridiculous, when it clearly is jeopardising the game.
I stopped playing cuz as it stands it has no future so why waste my time?
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
92
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Posted - 2015.11.08 17:32:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:I stopped playing cuz as it stands it has no future so why waste my time?
I thought about that myself. Then I realised I've only just gotten into the game, I might as well play it for what I can get out of it for as long as it's around. But unless and until they tell me that it will be ported AND everything I've invested in it will be ported with it, I'm not spending another cent on it. They may be just milking it for what they can get out of it until it dies, but they're not going to do that with me. |
Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.08 17:35:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Golden Day wrote:Devadander wrote:It's ps4 or death.
We had a pc port once.... It didn't go over well. Pc&amp;gt;PS4 "we had a PC port once" wut?? Pretty sure eve legion is on a shelf somewhere in a hard drive waiting to be shown at ff15 with more burning trees Go to Windows 10..maybe get some cross platform play going on..then port to ps4 then we have players from PC/Xbox/ps4 No idea what Microsoft plans on doing with Xbox Windows 10 but it could be beneficial to dust if you can get cross platform play due to Windows 10 I wouldn't mind it being on ps4 but I'd rather they go Windows first since that's what CCP is good at..then they can tweak it and put it on ps4 as well..
sony and Microsoft wont even let their console cross platform do you really think they would do that now??
Honestly it needs to be on PC I can see this game succeeding on PC
It will be the sci-fi version of Cs:go but with more Russians than Cs:go!
Im just a glorified blueberry
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
732
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Posted - 2015.11.08 18:01:00 -
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Of course not but PC and Xbox could
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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Jammeh McJam
XxAMBUSH FTWxX
388
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Posted - 2015.11.08 18:52:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:Golden Day wrote:Devadander wrote:It's ps4 or death.
We had a pc port once.... It didn't go over well. Pc&amp;gt;PS4 "we had a PC port once" wut?? Pretty sure eve legion is on a shelf somewhere in a hard drive waiting to be shown at ff15 with more burning trees Go to Windows 10..maybe get some cross platform play going on..then port to ps4 then we have players from PC/Xbox/ps4 No idea what Microsoft plans on doing with Xbox Windows 10 but it could be beneficial to dust if you can get cross platform play due to Windows 10 I wouldn't mind it being on ps4 but I'd rather they go Windows first since that's what CCP is good at..then they can tweak it and put it on ps4 as well.. sony and Microsoft wont even let their console cross platform do you really think they would do that now?? Honestly it needs to be on PC I can see this game succeeding on PC It will be the sci-fi version of Cs:go but with more Russians than Cs:go!
More russians than cs:go? That's impossible!
Steam name - Jammeh McJam
PC master race
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.08 19:19:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Golden Day wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:Golden Day wrote:Devadander wrote:It's ps4 or death.
We had a pc port once.... It didn't go over well. Pc&amp;amp;gt;PS4 "we had a PC port once" wut?? Pretty sure eve legion is on a shelf somewhere in a hard drive waiting to be shown at ff15 with more burning trees Go to Windows 10..maybe get some cross platform play going on..then port to ps4 then we have players from PC/Xbox/ps4 No idea what Microsoft plans on doing with Xbox Windows 10 but it could be beneficial to dust if you can get cross platform play due to Windows 10 I wouldn't mind it being on ps4 but I'd rather they go Windows first since that's what CCP is good at..then they can tweak it and put it on ps4 as well.. sony and Microsoft wont even let their console cross platform do you really think they would do that now?? Honestly it needs to be on PC I can see this game succeeding on PC It will be the sci-fi version of Cs:go but with more Russians than Cs:go! More russians than cs:go? That's impossible!
Nothing is impossible in new Eden =ƒÿê
Im just a glorified blueberry
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
734
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Posted - 2015.11.08 20:20:00 -
[389] - Quote
For those like me wondering what they're talking about ^ I googled it
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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Jammeh McJam
XxAMBUSH FTWxX
388
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Posted - 2015.11.08 20:25:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:For those like me wondering what they're talking about ^ I googled it
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
If you play it i can guarantee one of the first things you'll hear is CYKA BLYAT! from some random russian in a casual match.
If dust get's as bad as that then we're doomed
Steam name - Jammeh McJam
PC master race
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.08 20:27:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:For those like me wondering what they're talking about ^ I googled it
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Its a really competitive game with a steep learning curve.
Dust Is a sci-fi version of it
Now if its released on PC for free on steam it could gain some popularity
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Jammeh McJam
XxAMBUSH FTWxX
388
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Posted - 2015.11.08 20:31:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:For those like me wondering what they're talking about ^ I googled it
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Its a really competitive game with a steep learning curve. Dust Is a sci-fi version of it Now if its released on PC for free on steam it could gain some popularity
dust would be a sci-fi version of it if people died in 2 bullets from every weapon in existence, but i don't think the dust playerbase will be too happy about that
Steam name - Jammeh McJam
PC master race
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.08 20:32:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:For those like me wondering what they're talking about ^ I googled it
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive If you play it i can guarantee one of the first things you'll hear is CYKA BLYAT! from some random russian in a casual match. If dust get's as bad as that then we're doomed
The Cs go community is pretty rough but surprisingly the game is popular
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Jammeh McJam
XxAMBUSH FTWxX
388
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Posted - 2015.11.08 21:31:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:For those like me wondering what they're talking about ^ I googled it
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive If you play it i can guarantee one of the first things you'll hear is CYKA BLYAT! from some random russian in a casual match. If dust get's as bad as that then we're doomed The Cs go community is pretty rough but surprisingly the game is popular
The cs:go community can basically be summed up by this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIXFR5Mh7gM
Steam name - Jammeh McJam
PC master race
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JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.11.08 21:33:00 -
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Can this thread just get locked. Ffs its annoying
Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
735
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Posted - 2015.11.08 21:52:00 -
[396] - Quote
JIMvc2 wrote:Can this thread just get locked. Ffs its annoying
Then don't click it, no one forced you to
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.11.08 22:12:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Can this thread just get locked. Ffs its annoying Then don't click it, no one forced you to
Doesn't matter. The stupid bumping is keep it alive. IT NEEDS TO STOP.
Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.11.09 00:05:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Can this thread just get locked. Ffs its annoying Then don't click it, no one forced you to Doesn't matter. The stupid bumping is keep it alive. IT NEEDS TO STOP.
IT MUST CONTINUE!! For the future of this game!!
Time since Legion News
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.09 00:08:00 -
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Well if we stomp bumping this thread maybe it wont be at the top
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Jammeh McJam
XxAMBUSH FTWxX
389
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Posted - 2015.11.09 00:16:00 -
[400] - Quote
Might as well keep on posting here. Besides what else are we gonna do, play the game?
Steam name - Jammeh McJam
PC master race
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.09 00:18:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Might as well keep on posting here. Besides what else are we gonna do, play the game?
Lol,ikr who would do that?
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Immortal John Ripper
29
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Posted - 2015.11.09 00:44:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Might as well keep on posting here. Besides what else are we gonna do, play the game? Lol,ikr who would do that?
certainly not me.
I'm not crazy.
Butter my button and call it a biscuit.
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.11.09 01:20:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Golden Day wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Might as well keep on posting here. Besides what else are we gonna do, play the game? Lol,ikr who would do that? certainly not me. I'm not crazy.
I cant play anymore this game gave me a headache the last few times I tried playing.
Time since Legion News
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.11.09 21:50:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Golden Day wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:For those like me wondering what they're talking about ^ I googled it
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive If you play it i can guarantee one of the first things you'll hear is CYKA BLYAT! from some random russian in a casual match. If dust get's as bad as that then we're doomed The Cs go community is pretty rough but surprisingly the game is popular The cs:go community can basically be summed up by this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIXFR5Mh7gM
that vid was awesome I watched it about 5 times
Time since Legion News
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ZED Regent
RabbitGang
13 COILS
609
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Posted - 2015.11.10 05:11:00 -
[405] - Quote
New day... new bump...
#PortDust514
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port Dust 514...
Hangovers for everybody!
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ZED Regent
Acid Tech 303
671
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Posted - 2015.12.07 17:31:00 -
[406] - Quote
Minecraft goes Wii U !!!
When will Dust go next gen?!?
...
port Dust 514....
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JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.07 17:38:00 -
[407] - Quote
Current gen you piece of grease ****.
Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
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SOGZ PANDA
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
165
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Posted - 2015.12.08 01:06:00 -
[408] - Quote
JIMvc2 wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Can this thread just get locked. Ffs its annoying Then don't click it, no one forced you to Doesn't matter. The stupid bumping is keep it alive. IT NEEDS TO STOP.
You mean, you don't want dust to next gen?
Do you not have a job? Or do you work in Qatar?
Or do you like watching games die..............
zee plot thickens
dust is life...
... uncertain, and usually pretty dissapointing.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.12.08 02:43:00 -
[409] - Quote
Just Do It
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.08 02:50:00 -
[410] - Quote
SOGZ PANDA wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Can this thread just get locked. Ffs its annoying Then don't click it, no one forced you to Doesn't matter. The stupid bumping is keep it alive. IT NEEDS TO STOP. You mean, you don't want dust to next gen? Do you not have a job? Or do you work in Qatar? Or do you like watching games die.............. zee plot thickens
Games can die if I care. Don't take my word for it.
At some point a game has to die but nooo some wanker has to rescue it.
Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
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SOGZ PANDA
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
165
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Posted - 2015.12.08 03:12:00 -
[411] - Quote
JIMvc2 wrote:SOGZ PANDA wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Can this thread just get locked. Ffs its annoying Then don't click it, no one forced you to Doesn't matter. The stupid bumping is keep it alive. IT NEEDS TO STOP. You mean, you don't want dust to next gen? Do you not have a job? Or do you work in Qatar? Or do you like watching games die.............. zee plot thickens Games can die if I care. Don't take my word for it. At some point a game has to die but nooo some wanker has to rescue it.
Yeah don't get me wrong. I can't wait for dust514 to die so we can get off this garbage platform and start a fresh.
Nothing good will come from porting dust I feel. Just a nostalgia bump for the committed souls, and let's not forget the stats junkies who do nothing but pad their dust514 rep in pubs crushing starter fits.
dust is life...
... uncertain, and usually pretty dissapointing.
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Jammeh McJam
Dead Man's Game
438
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Posted - 2015.12.08 11:29:00 -
[412] - Quote
Bump
Steam name - Jammeh McJam
PC master race
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alty mctab
OB corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.12.08 12:52:00 -
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SOGZ PANDA wrote: some **** i didnt read
your signature is awsome sogz ;)
hey guys o/
dont mind me, im just guna park this lav here so all the tears from this thread wash off all the dried clone goo.
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
981
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Posted - 2015.12.17 16:16:00 -
[414] - Quote
How's this coming? Reveal during Christmas/new year or fanfest? That's just what I think anyways
=ƒæìport dust
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Steam - Heimpai
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
1
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Posted - 2015.12.17 18:52:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:For those like me wondering what they're talking about ^ I googled it
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive If you play it i can guarantee one of the first things you'll hear is CYKA BLYAT! from some random russian in a casual match. If dust get's as bad as that then we're doomed The Cs go community is pretty rough but surprisingly the game is popular
In CS:GO you'll get **** on for being bad by your team and the enemy.
In Dust the people that get **** on blame the people that do well for ruining the gaming experience.
Both communities support the HTFU ideology
CS:GO goes with it to the extreme at times
Dust uses it as a motto to persevere through fukkery
I play both
Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
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VAHZZ
Community Cream Pie
10
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Posted - 2015.12.17 18:55:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:
In CS:GO you'll get **** on for being bad by your team and the enemy.
In Dust the people that get **** on blame the people that do well for ruining the gaming experience.
Both communities support the HTFU ideology
CS:GO goes with it to the extreme at times
Dust uses it as a motto to persevere through fukkery
I play both
CS;GO is more unforgiving and more fun. It is also a part of the pro circuit. DUST is far from MLG. I as well play both games.
Long live the king
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Avallo Kantor
1
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Posted - 2015.12.17 21:33:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:
In CS:GO you'll get **** on for being bad by your team and the enemy.
In Dust the people that get **** on blame the people that do well for ruining the gaming experience.
Both communities support the HTFU ideology
CS:GO goes with it to the extreme at times
Dust uses it as a motto to persevere through fukkery
I play both
CS;GO is more unforgiving and more fun. It is also a part of the pro circuit. DUST is far from MLG. I as well play both games.
I don't know, something about CS:GO made me never get into it. I think DUST is a far more engaging / fun game personally.
Care sharing what you like about it?
"Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
2
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Posted - 2015.12.17 21:35:00 -
[418] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
If port make it Ps4, i do not care about Pc (since ESP hacks).
Anyway some fixes for Ps3 version should be essential.
"Im original Boii Boyko"
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
1
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Posted - 2015.12.17 22:48:00 -
[419] - Quote
Avallo Kantor wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:
In CS:GO you'll get **** on for being bad by your team and the enemy.
In Dust the people that get **** on blame the people that do well for ruining the gaming experience.
Both communities support the HTFU ideology
CS:GO goes with it to the extreme at times
Dust uses it as a motto to persevere through fukkery
I play both
CS;GO is more unforgiving and more fun. It is also a part of the pro circuit. DUST is far from MLG. I as well play both games. I don't know, something about CS:GO made me never get into it. I think DUST is a far more engaging / fun game personally. Care sharing what you like about it?
I think that in general the CS:GO community is more likely to do things to go for a win even if dying does penalize you financially in the next round. Saving a AWP is nice but going 1 vs 3 and winning is very satisfying.
I also like that most do realize that teamwork can greatly enhance your chance of winning. It's toxic as all hell how some go about communicating but they do so because they see you messing up and wanna win. Example: "why aren't you planting you dickhead?" "They're at LONG you fuckin scrubs i just told you that. I hope you all get ******" "FUCKIN GOOOO YOU *****"
Plus with only 1 life per round it really gets intense. Makes you approach things in a more tactical fashion.
Im a scrub tho.
Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
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DJINN Heartreaper
Negative-Feedback.
20
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Posted - 2015.12.18 15:51:00 -
[420] - Quote
Wonder if we should bump these daily or if it's pointless at this point??
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Nam Daas Rejneesh
Woodgrain Atari
2
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Posted - 2015.12.24 10:41:00 -
[421] - Quote
PS4 |
jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
92
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Posted - 2015.12.24 12:41:00 -
[422] - Quote
Propably will get ported to PC cant wait :D
"God, grand me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change and the courage to change the things that I can"
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GUILHERMEE Matador
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
3
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Posted - 2015.12.25 04:21:00 -
[423] - Quote
I do not see problem activate my ps3 only by dust, we are very precified,dust full of bugs and leg, if that does not decrease, it will not make difference,my opinion... |
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